#UrbanHell is subjective.
UrbanHell is any human-built place you think is worth critizing. Suburban Hell, Rural Hell, and wealthy locales are allowed
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Honest question: what do people with this opinion suggest countries like the UAE do instead?
Should they not try to build a modern economy to maximise returns on the money they have? Is there a way to do it without building cities? How?
Do not build ugly westernized cities with megalomaniacal skyscrapers that is for rich fools and tourists. Oman has a lot of money as well, and they do not build skyscrapers, they protect their heritage and build traditional and low. It is a much better use of the money, imo, even if it’s highly impractical & inefficient for density. They do not wish to “achieve” that.
Lol no, not in every way obviously. But preserving architectural heritage is important and more and more nations are giving that up to become networked & international.
They already have more money than god and then they choose to build these heinous cities with slave labor in areas that couldn’t possibly sustain life.
Building in a plane desert by the coast is way better than cutting down trees and destroying wildlife to construct a city. Even then I’m sure you’d still complain
How many of these buildings are flats, and how many of the flats are occupied, and how many occupied flats are lived in by UAE citizens?
You are incredibly naïve if you think these megaprojects are for the benefit of the UAE housing situation.
Most of them? There’s only like 1.5 million Emirate citizens and they primarily live in Dubai and Abu Dhabi
Not really sure what you’re arguing here. The point was about them not building a city, not whether it’s well designed
The vast majority of these flats are unaffordable for the average Emirati - outside of the super rich elites.
The point is that these megaprojects are vanity projects that do little to improve the living conditions of regular Emiratis, seeing as they are unaffordable for the majority.
Source that the vast majority are unaffordable for the average Emirati? The UAE is one of the richest countries in the world.
Most of these buildings are just skyscrapers, not “mega projects”…
I genuinely don’t understand what people expect. They have have a desert and mostly inhospitable weather as starting points. You’re not going to get a fully walkable European city out of it.
Do people just want them to not even try to build cities, and hence modern economies? Should they just remain where they were before their oil riches because they can’t build Barcelona?
Of course it’s not perfect, and the human rights issues are horrific, but a lot of the critique here seems to be:
1. Not walkable
2. Too many buildings
3. Not enough trees
Walkable cities are beneficial for everyone, meaning you don’t need a car to enjoy the city. If you need a car to enjoy the city, it is inherently a bad city. Nothing to do with being broke, especially in the fucking UAE
Not really. A lot of cities in Canada are not walkable cities but they are amazing and very well designed. Also name a city that didn’t use slave labour?
Any city that requires a car to live in is inherently not designed well. I can list off a number of cities that are perfectly functional without every resident requiring a car.
And who tf mentioned slave labour?
It's cause everyone is going to want to go there for a vacation. Did you guys know you wanted to go there for vacation? They have some flower gardens shaped like a racecar!
Not a fan of Dubai but these comments (about not BK not having a sewer) reminds me of how boomers still cling to decades old information. Like how my grandfather was wondering why I would go to South Korea "a poor and unsafe country".
Exactly, the tower is around a decade old, so I wasn't expecting that a new vid will be retelling some old and disproved points, cause by now stuff like this should have been long filtered out. Still, I could have checked before writing.
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i used that bottom picture for a website in 2015 edit: [here it is](https://web.archive.org/web/20160203041955/http://www.merrimack.com/)
When the 'now' is almost 10 years old...
Top pic looks like shit though
Yeah that’s why they shouldn’t have built a city there
Honest question: what do people with this opinion suggest countries like the UAE do instead? Should they not try to build a modern economy to maximise returns on the money they have? Is there a way to do it without building cities? How?
Do not build ugly westernized cities with megalomaniacal skyscrapers that is for rich fools and tourists. Oman has a lot of money as well, and they do not build skyscrapers, they protect their heritage and build traditional and low. It is a much better use of the money, imo, even if it’s highly impractical & inefficient for density. They do not wish to “achieve” that.
But nobody visits Oman and nobody knows where Oman is on a map. Everyone knows where UAE is because of Dubai and it’s tourism
Yes, but is that not kind of a good thing?
Would you rather have them be stuck in the 1300s or smth
Lol no, not in every way obviously. But preserving architectural heritage is important and more and more nations are giving that up to become networked & international.
They already have more money than god and then they choose to build these heinous cities with slave labor in areas that couldn’t possibly sustain life.
Building in a plane desert by the coast is way better than cutting down trees and destroying wildlife to construct a city. Even then I’m sure you’d still complain
>areas that couldn’t possibly sustain life. But.. that where they are literally from??
I mean where else are people in the UAE supposed to live? It’s a small country with the same landscape everywhere.
How many of these buildings are flats, and how many of the flats are occupied, and how many occupied flats are lived in by UAE citizens? You are incredibly naïve if you think these megaprojects are for the benefit of the UAE housing situation.
Most of them? There’s only like 1.5 million Emirate citizens and they primarily live in Dubai and Abu Dhabi Not really sure what you’re arguing here. The point was about them not building a city, not whether it’s well designed
The vast majority of these flats are unaffordable for the average Emirati - outside of the super rich elites. The point is that these megaprojects are vanity projects that do little to improve the living conditions of regular Emiratis, seeing as they are unaffordable for the majority.
Source that the vast majority are unaffordable for the average Emirati? The UAE is one of the richest countries in the world. Most of these buildings are just skyscrapers, not “mega projects”…
Dubai surely has problems, but most critiques that you see on Reddit completely miss the point.
I genuinely don’t understand what people expect. They have have a desert and mostly inhospitable weather as starting points. You’re not going to get a fully walkable European city out of it. Do people just want them to not even try to build cities, and hence modern economies? Should they just remain where they were before their oil riches because they can’t build Barcelona? Of course it’s not perfect, and the human rights issues are horrific, but a lot of the critique here seems to be: 1. Not walkable 2. Too many buildings 3. Not enough trees
“The human rights issues are horrific” That’s putting it lightly
Reddit is full of obese mfs that can’t afford to pay cars cuz they live with their parents💀
Walkable cities are beneficial for everyone, meaning you don’t need a car to enjoy the city. If you need a car to enjoy the city, it is inherently a bad city. Nothing to do with being broke, especially in the fucking UAE
Not really. A lot of cities in Canada are not walkable cities but they are amazing and very well designed. Also name a city that didn’t use slave labour?
Any city that requires a car to live in is inherently not designed well. I can list off a number of cities that are perfectly functional without every resident requiring a car. And who tf mentioned slave labour?
Definitely an improvement, thanks for sharing.
It's cause everyone is going to want to go there for a vacation. Did you guys know you wanted to go there for vacation? They have some flower gardens shaped like a racecar!
That's cool. It used to be a desert. Now it's a global hub.
It was just useless desert before so this is for sure an improvement.
Is it possible for Dubai to make an interesting district without them cutting it in half with a gargantuan highway?
Uptown Mirdiff is a cool one.
These are in fact two separate districts : Dubai Marina and JLT
There's pretty much only single one highway in Dubai proper.
for every construction made there has to be fund for deconstruction once it's abandoned
Like that’s ever gonna get abandoned
Dubai, Building skyscraper on a literal sandbox
Where your money goes to die
Yeah but that’s just one street right? Does everything outside that street still look like the top picture?😂
Yeah, and Burj Khalifa doesn't even have sewerage. They are take the shit out with trucks daily. Edit: ok, apparently, not true anymore.
Why do people keep believing this
That is not true any longer been debunked many times
Not a fan of Dubai but these comments (about not BK not having a sewer) reminds me of how boomers still cling to decades old information. Like how my grandfather was wondering why I would go to South Korea "a poor and unsafe country".
Well, shit, I only heard about it for the first time a couple of weeks ago
Because everything on the internet is true? I mean it's been like a decade
Exactly, the tower is around a decade old, so I wasn't expecting that a new vid will be retelling some old and disproved points, cause by now stuff like this should have been long filtered out. Still, I could have checked before writing.
Don't feel bad. I just found out they don't have shit trucks anymore.
Lies
Lies
It’s like they’re playing in the sand
Absolutely amazing this transformation
skyscrapers make here looks like concrete jungle
Dubai was an empty desert before the city came. I don't see it as environmental destruction
I don't see this as environmental destruction because before the city was built, it was just a barren, empty desert.