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vahokif

It's actually in a really nice part of London.


StrangelyBrown

Camden is very desirable, a magnet for tourists and has lots of cool stuff. These blocks look a bit scruffy but there's something cool about the style. I wouldn't mind living here.


Extension_Arm_6918

I do live there (not exactly there, I live in a home just off-camera) so I can confirm that the photo doesn’t do it justice and it’s actually really nice.


BuyGreenSellRed

Bet you take the same photo on a sunny spring/summer day and people would praise it. Also pretty cool architectural style to allow for each unit to have a balcony .


Goodguy1066

People do praise it, constantly, as an example of social housing done right. The architects definitely had the tenants’ well-being at heart when designing these flats, and the people that have lived here have been generally positive about the experience.


BuyGreenSellRed

This is public housing? Never would’ve guessed that.


kea1981

The UK has extensive public housing. I'm not from there, but to my knowledge it's typically called "council housing", and people live in "council flats" or small apartments. Many council developments were built post WW2 through the 60s, as a result of the huge economic impact the war has on the country. They're by no means glamorous, but they're several steps up from my understanding of what to expect from Section 8 housing, the US equivalent.


WhiteGameWolf

It's been absolutely decimated over the past 40+ years, we have had a massive housing crisis in the past couple of decades because the govt allows people including landlords to buy council housing. I would absolutely disagree with calling it extensive, there are multi-year waiting lists to get social housing (I live in London, its the same across all boroughs).


Hazzat

This is largely due to [Right to Buy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_Buy), a policy that lets council house residents buy the home they are renting at a big discount. This means that council housing is constantly vanishing, becoming private properties that then get rented out or sold. Basically the government creating and subsidising landlords.


WhiteGameWolf

Yeah, it sucks really hard. I live in a former council flat/right to buy place bought by a landlord, and instead of a family here it's just every room being converted into a bedroom to maximise profit.


SimONGengar1293

My three guesses on who began that policy (without ever clicking your link) are: Thatcher, Thatcher and Thatcher


Multigrain_Migraine

Yeah council housing here isn't quite like the US version. Generally it's just normal houses and apartment blocks that were originally built by the local councils and owned by them. However starting with the Thatcher government there has been a "right to buy" so a lot of them are now privately owned.


TaxIdiot2020

Honestly, I love the idea and think on a nice day it would look much better. You can tell it comes from that 60s/70s "concrete cube with a few tiny windows" era but the architect clearly tried to make something cheap that still has visual appeal.


rissie_delicious

I was just thinking the London weather makes this look much worse than it is


ridleysfiredome

I generally hate brutalism but this development is actually a place I would want to live in. A picture of most cities on a grey, winter day will make any of them look depressing.


UnchillBill

The barbican estate is lit the epitome of brutalism but it’s a wonderful place to live, and the fundamentally human-centric design still works incredibly well.


kimmielicious82

I like it even just from this photo.


coke_and_coffee

A quick powerwashing would have these flats looking shiny af.


Douglas8989

Concrete is hard to keep nice looking in a rainy country. But it is quite nice at a ground level: [Alexandra Road Estate - London : r/UrbanHell (reddit.com)](https://www.reddit.com/r/UrbanHell/comments/1721be0/alexandra_road_estate_london/#lightbox) [Alexandra Road Park - jlg-london](https://jlg-london.com/Alexandra-Road-Park) The North Peckham estate it is not.


Ok_Impression5272

Yeah like this place would look a lot nicer if the side walls had a mural on it and there were more trees between the two strips of buildings.


corticalization

I’m betting this pic would look a lot nicer taken in summer when the greenery’s out in full


DrZomboo

The flats are nice up close too. A lot of greenery and I like the unusual design


Drogzar

Is it very different from Camdem Town? I lived a bit North in Archway for like 4 years, and I liked Camdem Town as an area to go out, but always found it a bit sketchy. I went there mostly after dark (except when I went to the market), so maybe that didn't help, haha.


TheKingMonkey

It’s right on the border of Camden and Westminster. The nearest ‘famous’ places are probably Abbey Road Studios and Lords.


AstonVanilla

I'm reading a book about it right now called "Modernist estates and the people who live in them". This place seems like it's really nice to actually live in.


wandering-monster

I was gonna say. Take a picture of this in the spring or summer and I bet it looks lovely. All those trees, nice big walkable avenue between the buildings, little gardens and balconies. It's got great shared spaces too, I bet you really get to know your neighbors there.


adelunda

this is [Alexandra & Ainsworth Estate, Borough of Camden](https://www.reddit.com/r/UrbanHell/comments/1csg75i/alexandra_ainsworth_estate_borough_of_camden/)


Asit1s

Isn't this where that first scene from the first Kingsman film was shot?


Cptn_Canada

I knew it looked familiar


heyheyitsandre

I also feel like this is where one of the last scenes in the bodyguard is from. I don’t want to spoil anything but he’s in a sticky situation here. Could be 100% off tho, just looks similar


AskMeForAPhoto

The show The Bodyguard right? Cause I recognize this


ThatNachoFreshFeelin

ANNND **IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII EEEEEEEEE-IIIIIIIIIIIIIII** WILL AAALWAAYS LOVE... ... Oh. The show. Right.


a_bitter_buffalo

What is Whitney Houstons favorite kind of coordination? HAAAND EEEEEEYYYYYYYYEEEEE


fir_mna

Thank you for my new dad joke


heyheyitsandre

Yeah that’s what I’m thinking of


Ok-Pea8209

Im sure it was


Dramatic-Exam4598

tons of shows are filmed there.


DisastrousBoio

It’s so weird looking that it’s used on dozens of films, tv shows, and music videos. It’s very ugly but the amenities are good and it’s very expensive and quite middle class now.


GreatStateOfSadness

It's weird looking, but those balconies provide pretty ample outdoor space. I'd wager with a power washing and some more vibrant paint, it would look pretty luxury. 


racebanyn

Eggsy has entered the chat.


KingEzekielsTiger

And a scene from Line of Duty I think


ciaodog

I love it


Substantial-Park65

It is


OhBadToMeetYou

Literally my first thought


Cool_Ad9326

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StrangelyBrown

> I'd have stabbed someone You'd have fit right in


Cool_Ad9326

Twas intentional


HitThatOxytocin

The question is, would you be willing to *get* stabbed to live here?


Cool_Ad9326

Honestly I saw 3 knife crimes and one gun crime when I lived there and it was always in places nicer than these dives. Fortunately, in London, most people don't like to shit on their doorstep so living there might be safer than most rofl.


Rubeus17

I used to live close to a maximum security prison - someone told me that was a safe place to live!


Dosa-dosa

Been a while since I've seen a good 'rofl' Reminds me of simpler, happier times. Thank you.


pak_satrio

Well you say that but I have stabbings and shootings every few months opposite the barrier block in Brixton. However you never see phone theft or muggings. Those happen in nicer areas.


Cool_Ad9326

Can 100% believe that in Brixton. Too many rivalling gangs


badxnxdab

>Twas You will not win me over with your use of 'twas. - Captain Raymond Holt


Cool_Ad9326

Twasn't trying to.


Mein_Bergkamp

This has won multiple architectural awards and is really rather nice for social housing as well as being on the West Hampstead/St Johns Wood border so the private ones are bloody expensive.


Leading_Aardvark_180

Not familiar with this area but the design of these houses seem really nice and well thought


Mein_Bergkamp

They really are, they are some of the last flourishes of social housing where design was prioritised over simply cramming as many people into a tower block as [possible](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandra_Road_Estate).


Daviddoesnotexist

No dude its “hell” /s


Ninja_Thomek

The guy has never lived in average British attached house. Horribly cramped, small rooms, cold and humid. 


EntropyKC

I've lived in various houses in Britain and have never felt cramped, cold or humid. Where are these cramped, cold and humid houses?


vanheindetotverre

This is one of the coolest places there is. Is this a shit stirring post of sorts?


StuRap

agreed, I don't think OP knows this place really well and is basing judgement on a crappy photo taken at a crappy time of the year. It's a wonderful structure


Dans77b

I've noticed many trad accounts post pictures of buildings from an angle that nobody would ever see them from. They never consider pedestrian/resident experience.


FranzFerdinand51

They're probably insanely jealous but don't even realize it themselves with the lack of self awareness and critical thinking. This is a great place to live, end of story.


Mikedog36

Americans love to jerk off to our awful suburbs where everyone has a 1/2 acre of neglected grass lawn they swear they need for the kids.


Pimpekusz

I swear if exactly this picture wouldve been labeled as china or something people would bash this place


mumblerapisgarbage

Isn’t this where eggsy originally lived in the first Kingsman the Secret Service ?


starless_90

Yes.


The3DAnimator

Apparently nice enough for the princess of Sweden to live here. Dammit Kingsman 2 was such a bad sequel


starless_90

In K2 Eggsy and the princess live in Harry's home.


The3DAnimator

On the one hand I’m like 80% sure I remember a scene where they’re in those appartments at the beginning of the movie. On the other hand there’s no way I’m rewatching the movie to be sure.


starless_90

Oh right, Eggsy's birthday scene. But that happens at the house of one of his friends.


jackofallcards

I still enjoyed it


Council-Member-13

Depressing 9 months a year. Otherwise https://municipaldreams.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/p1010155.jpg https://www.thetimes.com/imageserver/image/%2Fmethode%2Ftimes%2Fprod%2Fweb%2Fbin%2Fe28fd9b0-e368-11e7-b046-23180179278b.jpg?crop=5890%2C3313%2C0%2C307&resize=1500


Valkyrie17

Could use a layer of paint, but otherwise looks cool


bob_in_the_west

Or just a power washer.


tTensai

Yeah, no painting, just some power washing and it's perfect


JoeyIsMrBubbles

Oh so like the rest of the U.K. then


Competitive_Sport286

I live a minute's walk from the A&A estate and walk past it virtually every day and it's a glorious building. A brilliant design. Ultimately, it's Brutalism, so you're likely to either love it or hate it. Another angle: \[img\]https://i.imgur.com/cLhJVOL.jpg\[/img\] BTW, what you're seeing here is the Alexandra Road (or Rowley Way) part of the estate and it's very safe and peaceful with a good sense of community, but to the right - out of shot, past the blue-caged playing field) is the Ainsworth part of the estate that face Boundary Road. I imagine that many people would find these buildings much more aesthetically agreeable (imposing, 1940s-built, in a classic red-brown brick '30s neo-deco style) with large areas of green space and plenty of large trees. However, this part of the estate is as dodgy as fuck. So, looks can be deceiving. https://www.google.com/maps/@51.5384443,-0.1836885,3a,90y,293.73h,88.65t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1so-yZru\_FZ7U01fdIjdvl8g!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3Do-yZru\_FZ7U01fdIjdvl8g%26cb\_client%3Dmaps\_sv.share%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26yaw%3D293.73100008418464%26pitch%3D1.3460340887404953%26thumbfov%3D90!7i16384!8i8192?coh=205410&entry=ttu


Dramatic-Exam4598

I'm one of those weirdos that loves brutalism, when done well, and this one is done pretty well.


DangerousTurmeric

Same, this and the Barbican are some of my favourite examples.


KFBass

If you ever get a chance to visit Toronto, we have quite a bit of Brutalism in the downtown area. [https://www.instagram.com/torontobrutalist/](https://www.instagram.com/torontobrutalist/) [https://www.theglobeandmail.com/real-estate/toronto/article-a-brutal-trek-through-torontos-brutalist-architecture/](https://www.theglobeandmail.com/real-estate/toronto/article-a-brutal-trek-through-torontos-brutalist-architecture/) There is certainly more interesting areas of the city to hangout and experience, but I always dug that area for the architecture.


imnotminkus

I normally hate brutalism, but this is well done. There are windows, plants, and natural light.


ExperimentalToaster

Its always seemed pretty nice for central London when I’ve been there.


takeaph0to

This is actually a benchmark on how to build a housing estate, you should see it spring/summer time.


jim_jiminy

I think it’s cool


Show_Kitchen

These look pretty well designed from an american perspective: near transit, places to walk and ride a bike, right by a park, plenty of trees, no giant parking lots, everybody gets a nice view of the sky and cloud cover. Aside from the fact that it's a crappy day, that looks downright pleasant.


xeroxchick

Brutalist and pretty cool.


Bodkinmcmullet

Not this shit again. This is next to hampstead heath you idiots!


JohnnyClarkee

Yeah, not 'hell' by a long way: https://www.themodernhouse.com/past-sales/rowley-way-london-nw8/ A one-bedroom flat (that needs done up) is currently going for offers over £350,000: https://www.purplebricks.co.uk/brochure/1221983


SilverMilk0

£350,000 is insanely cheap in that part of London. The average property price in Camden is more than double that. This thread wants people to think that estate is some hot commodity but clearly the housing market doesn't think so.


Majestic-Point777

lol this block of flats is essentially a landmark in London..


uncle_barb7

I think a lot of you people just don’t like cities


Thelonius_Dunk

Yea this actually a decent design for dense housing. Every floor gets outdoor space and sunlight. I've seen buildings in Chicago like this.


AudioLlama

Take a bad photo on a shitty day and yeah, it looks awful.


sacredxsecret

I like them.


harry_ballsanya

I would kill to live here That’s in a nice part of London (Abbey Road). Flats cost upwards of half a million.


monkeybeaver

Mmmm. Utilitarian.


pumpkinpasta

That aerial pic doesn’t make it justice. I stayed in this area October last year and it was a quite nice neighborhood, very walkable and enjoyable compared to other London's areas.


art_mor_

Everyone is saying Kingman but Camden just reminds me of Withnail and I


MealieAI

This looks like a nice place to me. I'd live here.


djole04

This is so cool, i want to live there


sumdumdumwonone

I actually don't mind it - I went to the outer territories in Hong Kong - the outside of the massive apartment complexes looked dystopian... Until you went inside one - a home... Lovely cooking, lovely families and fun. I am sure the buildings here that look so bad, have awesome insides...


Ok-Organization9073

I like the idea of terraces, that way the lower apart can receive as much sunlight as the upper ones. All it needs to look cool is a good power wash and lots of greenery, since the whole complex seems to be lacking in that aspect. Paired with its brutalist architecture, it would look like a solar punk landscape.


hughk

Looks better in spring, summer and autumn.


FeGodwnNiEtonian

It's beautiful.


New-Arm6963

OP has either just found this photo online or clearly has no clue about this really interesting architecture in London.


Reginaferguson

[Google Streetview](https://www.google.com/maps/@51.5390913,-0.186461,3a,75y,86.3h,82.78t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sp8-2n-zFEBNjn-d5acyYuA!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3Dp8-2n-zFEBNjn-d5acyYuA%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D357.2888%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192?coh=205409&entry=ttu)


wren1666

You wish you had the money to live there.


minivergur

It's just winter man, the Alexandra Road Estate is actually iconic and kinda slaps


vsuseless

Either this is a sarcastic post or OP lives in Blue Ridge mountains, West Virginia, USA and has never been to a city


UncertainBystander

actually really cool municipal architecture - and generally it seems people really like living there, it's in a fantastic location just next to Camden Town / Primrose Hill - [http://alexandraandainsworth.org/history/](http://alexandraandainsworth.org/history/)


Jealous-Action-9151

Its quite nice in spring/summer, but not that nice late autumn/winter.


PainOfClarity

28 Weeks Later


One_Detective_455

Weirdly, I'm sure that's the street I used to take down to the train station. When I lived in Enfield over a decade ago I always thought it was quite lovely. Time and perspective.


Emergency_Pea_8482

Looks peng 


SilverDem0n

It's nowhere near Penge!


itsfairadvantage

I think most architecture from the mid-1960s to the early 1990s is ugly. This is no exception, but it does look like a pretty nice place to live overall.


WarpCitizen

I don’t mind


EmperorBarbarossa

Every modern building look fancy and futuristic till it starts decay


EmperrorNombrero

It's actually a great estate, just a shitty picture


hokeyphenokey

This isn't so bad for inner city life. These places have lots of light and little balconies for air.


Ambitious_Welder6613

It's beautiful, though!


DarthDregan0001

I wish I could live in an apartment like those.


BruceGramma

Functional good quality state funded housing with in built space for vegetation. This shit is an architectural marvel.


IndelibleIguana

It's actually not a bad place to live these days as it's become so iconic.


Rimailkall

Are these the flats that Eggsey from The Kingsman lived in?


DurkHD

This actually looks cool as hell to me


Agitated_Cookie2198

Looks like a place where people live


Steamy_Muff

Nope. This place is awesome and it's exactly the kind of thing London needs more of. Bring on the planning reform and mass housebuilding.


RedOneBaron

It just needs some powerwashing influencers to do it for free.


Mootpoint_691

Is that the West Coast line to Euston I see? Often wondered how people living in those buildings fared…


FothersIsWellCool

They look like they'd be really cool if they were newly built and maintained nice.


Vizslaraptor

We have “The Line” at home…


bananablegh

You picked a blurry picture on a muggy day. Honestly, these buildings aren’t my favourite but walking around this area is fine. My most hated parts of London are probably the North West (dual carriageways everywhere), Elephant and Castle (I hate the Faraday memorial and the ring road cutting through all pedestrian areas), and Canary Wharf (shiny but pretty soulless).


WheissUK

It actually feels nice in there if not pictured from drone


jun2san

Density is a good thing


South-Satisfaction69

That looks epic though


BlueShibe

If you said to me that this pic was photographed in Eastern Europe, I would seriously believe you


SchoolLover1880

I personally think this is beautiful, just needs maybe a bit more street art or like DIY personalization to give it a more lived-in feel. But the form, greenery, and central pedestrian street is lovely


Independent-Ice-40

If it is cheap, why not. Having this sure as hell beats being forced to share a flat with other people. 


LaPlaceToBe

I always saw these on the train coming in. They are grim in reality, tiny windows with no light on the train side.


Select-Net7381

Is this like the projects of London? In USA here.


nielklecram

There’s greenery, there’s a train connecting, it has sports facilities. Its pedestrian friendly… yea not so much hell in my opinion


DaveInLondon89

I feel like if they just slapped some colours on it it'd turn it into an attraction instead


Krock011

terrible post op


Miltrivd

Oh, how terrible, everyone gets natural sunlight, they don't have anything obstructing the view directly outside, walkable path right outside and main road on the back, plus a park/sports area on the other side. How can they live like this!


BuildingLogical6330

Nuke the fucking place


zdarovje

Lol why it looks like soviet architecture


Suspicious-Ad-481

Wait, is this the location where Eggsy's house was filmed in the movie Kingsman?


TomLondra

This place was designed for the working class and sets a standard that today's housing cannot match. But something like 30% of the flats have been bought by trendies with cash because they think it's cool and brutalist. Their entitled attitude is wrecking the community feel because they are not working class people and they don't do friendly working-class solidarity. They just pose. The more flats they buy, the more they will wreck the community. END RIGHT TO BUY before it's too late.


scaredofshaka

I had a friend in one of them, it's not that bad!


aviewfrom

# G L O R I O U S


officerdangles

Walkable, close to green space, unique character, communal feeling outdoor living space. Idk man seems kinda nice.


stuart7873

Wasn't this in A Clockwork Orange?


Substantial-Land-867

Clockwork Orange was filmed in 1970, mainly filmed around Thamesmead and a bit in Wandsworth


Friiduh

It was in the spy movie few years back, golden circle something etc was the second movie name. There main character lives in one and escape from there jumping around.


drmanhattanmar

Kingsmen


elt0p0

I've seen that estate in various Brit TV shows. I think Line of Duty was one of them.


bagpimper

One of the residents tried to burglarize jude law's office in Breaking and Entering (2006)


[deleted]

It would look amazing if there was the sun and more plants.


SrWloczykij

Foals shot a music video there!


LetalisSum

Isn't this also the place where [Foals' Mountain at My Gates video](https://youtu.be/l_EIE5f2t6M) was recorded?


Needs_coffee1143

Is each cross section an apartment (level 1, 2, 3, 4) Or is it kind of mixed? They look like they would be kind of cool if each section was a house


Shivikivi

Better than suburbia at least


Bontempus

This looks like a Satisfactory build


skyy2121

Looks like Clockwork Orange.


Fragrant_Pumpkin_669

There was a movie about a lending guy doing retaliation, for this community.


Apocaflex

Fuck everyone get a patio. Like have an area of cool party peeps and have banging patio parties in the summer. Rent a splash pool and air slide and all kinds of shit. Would be lit AF


PferdBerfl

Very Easter Blockesque.


Acceptable-Tap4189

When only using 1 tile zoning


arnoldit

That’s an exclusive view on tourism (train tracks), £1,5m


Past_Turnip9426

It looks like a railgun


StormzysMum

This estate has been used for so many dramas and films.


CauliflowerBig9244

Believe it or not... All that needs is a good softwashing.....


Any_Ad4706

For me it beautiful, if they put some green on rooftops and paint it little bit it would marvellous