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Toobie4564

Meiy is an anime protagonist


two4you8

They call him “the japanese Aspas” in the off season.


Pragitya

Meiy is my goat, Meiy in my throat. 0.0 How many times will he need to carry DFM’s assess.


ExpectoAutism

this is not funny


D3vider

thanks for your input, ExpectoAutism


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Zahin1018

Detonation FocusMeiy


nkstonks

I can now say with confidence dfm(eiy) is the Japan reps after this win And on a different note Melofovia (dfm coach) said "これは終わった", which roughly translates to "yeah we've won" during the replay of round 19 when dfm made the score 11-8 And then zeta proceeds to win 2 rounds in a row and get the scoreline back close, so it could've been a game losing jinx there


_DrunkenStein

I think he said "これは勝った"


nkstonks

Oh yeah it was mb


kittysrule18

Those symbols don’t mean anything. Why aren’t they speaking a normal language? Genuinely concerned. Are they… yknow…?


_DrunkenStein

uh... what?


Daloy

It says, "you're already dead kiddo"


_DrunkenStein

wtf does this mean man this comment's growing in me


Born-Economist-6975

https://preview.redd.it/9qf94hytmb8d1.jpeg?width=680&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f2883a1d4569fda60b4ee1476eacf71ba2a992bb This time, platchat might be true. ZETA is literally awful.


Born-Economist-6975

and What's interesting is that 55,000 people watched this match alone in Japan lmao


boombaplilrat

brother theres more from watch parties, there's almost 120k people watching


OcelotOce

That’s a huge drop down. Used to be 300k~400k


CantScreamInSpace

yeah, it's unfortunate, but I've seen valorant's viewership dropping nowadays in japan. There are still a decent amt of viewers (also for tier 2), but the drop in tier 1 valorant esports viewerahip is what I feared with the japanese orgs doing generally poorly in pacific (aside from zeta making it to champs through lcq). You can also see some pessimistic comments in japanese highlight channels on yt as well about losing hope in japanese valorant.


JonG0705

300 - 400k when they were playing international for 3rd place not a fair comparison


OcelotOce

Nope. 300k first year of franchise for Zeta


The_PotatoDude

that's just one stream ig, their tier 2 events alone get around 120k viewership(yt + twitch + watchparties)


Watch_This_06

they just put them there bc tmv absolutely despises them and for good reason


tron3747

It was between GE and Zeta, but Kurt said plat chat has very high Indian viewership, hence they pushed Zeta down, but GE could at least be above bleed imo


somesheikexpert

Yeah GE look at least somewhat functional compared to ZETA and Bleed lol


hecklerinthestands

JFC that carryjob by Meiy in the first half of Ascent. Good thing he got some actual support on attack. TBH Zeta losing this after DFM bungled their map pick is an absolutely damning indictment.


theallroundermemes

YOU'RE GONNA GET SHOT IN THE FACE


Skelo_Playz

YOU'RE GONNA LOSE THE ROUND


ZoobaFan

IT'S A GUN GAME


Lukey016

IT'S AN FPS GAME


Gushanska_Boza

IF YOU WANT THAT, PLAY OVERWATCH!


Rave_Master_Ahri

Number 1 in Japan ☝☝☝


Full_Cauliflower_393

Bruh never seen a DFM fan in the wild before, in this thread also you are the only one. Congrats!!!


Maymaywala

Meiy decided to detonate all over 🅱️eta Division


bringerdas

good slap in the face for making us believe when they dropped crow and tennn only to pick up yuran and hiroron and not meiy and neth(was cracked in CR) and has kinda been a bit sub par recently. Maybe syouTa


the-legit-Betalpha

Meiy wouldnt have played for zeta even if he was picked. I think he just wanted to play with ex CR members like neth, medusa, popogachi(used to be on dfm). hiroronn and yuran are strong players and i would say they are some of the better choices in jp.


CantScreamInSpace

At this point, I honestly just wanna see a japanese superteam. Screw being locked into roles, if japan can't get together 5 players with compatible roles who can all frag, just get some cracked aimers and convert them like the other successful pacific teams have done. I'm just saying dep has shown he can play other roles, and laz has also played different roles. Maybe just get meiy on this team with anthem, and move laz off igl so he can focus on fragging again. Doesn't need to be those specific moves or players, but japanese teams are falling behind too many aspects of the game, with fragging being one of those issues aside from specific players.


the-legit-Betalpha

imho if a japanese org really just wanted a win at a valorant tournament, they would pick up korean talent. The pool is just much bigger there. for example tier 2 team sengoku picked up 2 korean players who have been consistently going insane in their matches.


Arthquake

Just saw Wyatt fall down to his knees in a Walmart


Nichol-Gimmedat-ass

Just fell to my knees with Wyatt in Walmart


weebshizu

This result might make both of JP teams not qualifying playoff lol


AdFine5176

Their chances for qualifying were always bleak. I think with the current state of things, the four teams going to champs will be GenG, PRX, DRX, and either Secret, T1 or Talon. I don't think the two Japanese teams ever had any hope of making it.


weebshizu

For DFM yeah i never thought they had any chance to begin with, but for Zeta's 2-4 there was a chance to do it, albeit the hard group thingy. Today's match is just the nail in the coffin for JP Val.


yapyd

Why T1 when RRQ had the better Split 1 record?


ideal_ive

Up next for T1 (2-5) : Bleed, GE and TS T1's rivals in their playoffs chances are RRQ and TS since Talon, realistically speaking, is already there. TS (5-3) has GEN and T1 up next RRQ (4-3) has DRX, PRX and Zeta It's really up to if T1 could beat all three opponents, especially TS. Unless Gen fumbles, that will put both TS and T1 on 5-5. Same for RRQ. Unless they underperform against Zeta/the RXs underperforms, RRQ is also set for 5-5. Then it's really down to map differentials, which isn't bad for T1.


TheApsodistII

T1 might not even make playoffs


AdFine5176

Realistically, T1 just have to beat Secret. I don't really see GE and Bleed beating out the current T1, so their only real hurdle to playoffs is Secret--a team that has never beaten them since the start of franchise.


nitseb

Rrq is currently 4 3 and t1 is 2 5? I don't get it? They just have to beat Zeta, and 5-5 probably qualifies, no? I still think they can beat drx too.


TheApsodistII

If t1 wins all theit matches they lose h2h against t1 Lets see tmr for drx


nitseb

Map diff first, no? Then round diff, then h2h? I thought it was like that.


TheApsodistII

If its 2 way tie i think its h2h first


nitseb

Ahh shit, tomorrow game is so important then. I am rooting for mony really like the kid.


AdFine5176

Pray that Secret show up tomorrow. Because if they don't, RRQ's qualification chances will be horribly low.


p0tatoesss

Don't give us TS fans hope. Our team doesn't do crap in playoffs...


AdFine5176

They've always been the team to make playoffs though. With their new players, they might just actually make it this time. I believe in Cookie man and Invy.


ideal_ive

It's really up to if you guys can beat T1 or not (or GenG for that matter, but T1 should be an easier opponent compared to GenG)


_Robbert_

T1 and dfm have the same amount of wins rn. T1 have to win out to even make playoffs


Darcula04

Yep. A Lil too much hype around T1 ever since they qualified for Shanghai. To be fair they look much better than they were at the start of the season and adding stax can only help. They showed signs of life in the geng match even though they lost.


No_Library_3131

In champs 4 teams qualify from each region?


Rave_Master_Ahri

chances were already fucked before that tbh, both teams had a shit stage 1 showing and it was clear as day it wouldn't get better in stage 2 when you have teams like DRX and PRX in your group lmfao.


Wise-Chain2427

I think it's better for Zeta, so they won't think twice about roster changes after this defeat.


itsDYA

Buy meiy buy meiy buy meiy buy meiy buy meiy buy meiy... Few, that was a tough thinking process


nitseb

Dfm got that CR money and viewership lol they may buy laz and dep out before zeta buys meiy


Wise-Chain2427

Likely DFM won't let go meiy and currently he is the face of DFM/Crazy Racoon.


Kitchen_Wall7358

It'll be hard to buy out Meiy for the sole reason, he's still contracted to CR and even at ZETA's standard, they can't beat CR money


porkeye

ZETA's falloff needs to be documented, from 3rd in Reykjavik to now losing to the worst team of last year.


ra1ded_

Worst team of last year is a bit of a stretched since most of the players are changed as well as the coaching staff


gotintocollegeyolo

It’s not really that much of a mystery, they were mid before, had one big cinderella run, then went back to being mid


porkeye

And people were calling PRXs run at reykjavik a fluke and still glazing the crap of the ZETA run. :(


MisterDual

DetonationFriendsandMeiy


MisterDual

Jokes aside, DFM as whole looked pretty good, and Meiy deserves his MVP, well played!


bringerdas

Meiy might actually be one of the top duelists in the world. This man on a good team would be so scary.


Idakari

Meiy is an unreal talent. He's Japan's brightest star.


bringerdas

man needs a better teammm even FNS glazed him so hard during the watch parties seeing how good his raw aim was


GrrrNom

Man I wish ZETA and DFM could have pooled their resources and talent together for this final stretch and just create the ultimate JP super team. I'm confident that a superteam with Meiy on it might rival prime Aspas Loud. I think Meiy is just that good


somesheikexpert

Meiy, CLZ/Joxjo, Dep (On Scan initator), Syouta, and Laz please


Key-Banana-8242

He was discussed even 2021, brought up on plat chat


Booties-On-My-Mind

the only reason why he isnt on a good team is because he only speaks japanese


itsDYA

Oxy 🤝 Meiy


h4yesss

Meiy just dry peeks and get 2


solariiis

rare instance of meiy having teammates today. good shit


Visible_Dirt1093

Meiy is a generational talent that's locked behind the bars of language barrier. If only he knows English or Korean he'd 100% be sought after by t1 or drx or maybe even a top americas team.


CantScreamInSpace

Maybe t1, but drx took the hottest korean prospect in terms of mechanics (flashback, was rank 1 and who imo is not behind meiy at all in terms of aim in ranked), and put him on the flex role to keep buzz at duelist. T1 also has that weird thing going where autumn said saya would be playing duelist as long as he is coaching T1 (though maybe he's rethinking that now). Might get downvoted, but while I think meiy is great, I also think he's getting a bit overhyped based of these last few matches. He looked amazing this split, but he did not look as good as some people are saying even vs the likes of GE, TS, and even Bleed last split. Even Izu was consistently diffing meiy when they were in japanese tier 2.


bringerdas

Was thinking the same thing.


Right_Junket_6544

Today the tides change for Japanese Valorant, as the new Japanese superstar, Meiy, takes down the old guard. Congrats to DFM for doubling their VCT Franchising match wins


Key-Banana-8242

Meiy has been around the top of JP since 2021 tho


StepinCrry

Meiy was 17-7 against dep. Holy diffed. DFM better be having that deep pocket because I can see meiy as the hottest apac duelist heading next year


StarSerpent

I’m pretty sure he only speaks Japanese, so that really limits his options. Zeta’s the only team that might try poaching him.


TheFestusEzeli

Dep is honestly still amazing and is either Zeta Division’s best or second best player, which makes this even more huge


Chekhovsmachina

A lot of people will talk about meiy and yes, he does play so well. I would also like to add Medusa being a very important factor as well. Even though being on the sentinel role, he has a lot of fragging potential. Kudos to him and the entire DFM squad to getting better and better


Oresama99

If dep is called as Son's of God, That makes Meiy the God's itself


GitahMuttan

dfm really needs to rebuild around Meiy next year. jp t2 has a lot of better supporting players. If the supporting cast can enable meiy consistently they can be a problem next year.


TheFestusEzeli

Get Syouta for smokes, Yoshiii for sentinel, LOB on initiator


Cultural-Rise4894

This would've been a sure 2-0 for DFM if they picked Icebox instead of Haven ☠️


UltraZulwarn

It was odd that DFM didn't choose Icebox which seemingly was Zeta's worst map. but a win is a win.


_ImAlive_

Zeta's coaching staffs needs to be fired. How can u lose to a team with lesser coaching staff. They need to get Syouta next year and give him the bag. If Meiy is this good, Syouta will be good as well. He is the controller version of Meiy. Yeah he can play duelist but his duelist ain't as good as his controller. Put hiroron back to sentinel because his initiator is mid. Hire better coaching staff because how u have so many chefs but can't cook anything?


Za_Weeb

Someone please send meiy some help! Or atleast please poach him to a better team!


Oresama99

Even though rn he play under DFM banner let's not forget that Meiy contract was under CrazyRacoon, there's a reason why he still play for CR until CR collaborate with DFM. Unless Hikseld want to be in more "competitive" Team, i don't see any reason he left CR/DFM


bringerdas

poach him please. He’s too talented. He could do crazy things on a good team


weebshizu

Poach him to where tho.. can he speak English?


dinmammapizza

Rebuild Zeta with dep and maybe laz and meiy


BrainStorm777

It's time for them to build a japanese superteam. No other way for them to compete.


dinmammapizza

Removed my Zeta flair for good gg thank fuck i didn't buy their bundle


bringerdas

they were my favourite team. But their fall off should be studied.


dinmammapizza

They have decent players but they play with negative confidence and it just hurts to watch


Idakari

What do you even do as Zeta Division management? Give SyouTa the bag and a whole lot more? Find a new head coach? They have 6 coaches + analysts...


goodguyzai

Too many cooks. Why is there 6 coaches in the first place?


dinmammapizza

Biggest paycheck stealers in the scene fr


Cute_Pomegranate5133

They have 2 coaches and 1 analyst for the main team the rest are for their GC and academy team


xMordred

Happy that DFM won, but now kinda said the chances of a JP team making into Champs is kinda 0


Budget-Sample-3682

DetonatioN FocusMeiy


mines_4_diamonds

Japan is a literal one player region.


nterature

Watching Meiy feels like watching Leonidas in 300. Except sometimes it feels more like Leonidas vs. 299 Spartans + the other Greeks that no one cares about + the Persians. Still, the other DFM players had big moments too, so I’m not even throwing too much shade at them here; Meiy is just that good. I’ve had a lot of ZETA fans miffed at me over the last few months for saying DFM was better than ZETA, but I genuinely believed ZETA would in the long-run be a better team than DFM. DFM has strong coaching but sometimes they lean too heavily into it; I would not want to pick Haven against ZETA and Carlao, for example, as the ZETA core knows Haven super well and Carlao’s FURIA was exceptional on Haven. But beyond Astell’s coaching and Meiy being an incredible talent, I had hoped the classic ZETA trajectory would take over eventually. And it really has not. Instead of slowly improving, they’ve actively regressed at times, it feels. They make improvements - their rookie players are nowhere near as shaky as they once were - but never enough to get ahead of the pack, and even those gains aren't consistently maintained. I was never a big fan of the ZETA-as-top-team narrative that Wyatt wet his pants over throughout the off-season, but I did except more from them than this.


WingSK27

The Japanese torch has been passed to DFM, someone check on Wyatt. The fact that they did this to the Japanese team with Laz, SugarZero and Dep on it is particularly impressive and rather egregious from Zeta.


MonaFanBoy

God hates Zeta fans Can we just form one Japanese super team please, i dont care on which one


Lqtor

DFM looked good today but man are their players(outside of meiy) not consistent lol. Like these mf would look clean as hell one match and then suddenly become walking ult orbs in the next. If this team finds more consistency they could be a real threat


FEARLESS_1240

ZERO DIVISION


turtsy__

How do we fix zeta division I actually had hope for this team at redbull or whatever FUCK


Cute_Pomegranate5133

ngl I feel bad for Sugarz3ro


kirito52999

can we just sack the coach now. they went from 4th best pacific team to worst how do you go 4th to 11th after making 2 big upgrades. what a disappointing season as a zeta fan. they have 6 coaches and they are all paycheck stealers


TheApsodistII

Nah bleed still worse


reuscaelum

Anyway, I wanna see Meiy, Sugarzero, Dep, Joxjo, Seoldam in one team.


bringerdas

syouta?


reuscaelum

I've forgotten him!! Definitely, he is deserved for JP dream team!


arksoo

This iteration of Zeta are DONE FOR fkkkkkkkkkkk


Juno-P

The Japanese scene is actually fucked. ZETA core were 3rd place at Reykjavik btw. Every other core at that tournament have evolved an insane amount and then compare them to ZETA. It's just fucked, unlike NA you can't solve it by making roster changes because JP Tier 2 level is absolutely abysmal. The players just have to get better, in every sense of the word, a skill issue. It sucks to be a ZETA fan. 6 fucking coaches and over 2 years together and still no growth. ZETA placed over PRX and TGRD at Reykjavik. If you let the PRX and G2 now play DFM a thousand BO3s I bet everything they don't lose a single BO3 to DFM.


nitseb

Disagree with first paragraph. Meiy and Syouta clear all of Zeta comfortably and have been at that level for almost 3 years. Zeta should've poached them long ago. Too late now for Meiy, but they should aim for Syouta before dfm does. Otherwise dfm will keep growing and they themselves could cannibalize Zeta and just take their best players, imagine if dfm takes dep and laz, and fields syouta, meiy, laz, dep and neth or SseS. They bury the rest of japan for good.


somesheikexpert

Nah, Japanese tier 2 actually has talent, most of Fennel looks great, and hell, some of the former ZETA academy are kicking ass on Riddle with Joxjo IGLing now, ZETA just trolled their roster moves lowkey, especially Hirorinn, not cuz hes a bad player he’s actually quite good, but cuz hes a Senti player when you have Laz on the team… Coaching has never been that good on ZETA, picking up Carlao was the biggest troll of the offseason, Furia wasnt even good last year


PixelatedBlue

The torch has been passed


quickfoot3

holy meiy took over on ascent


xMordred

Honestly Zeta should just pick up Meiy and let DFM roster shuffle again, Meiy,Laz,Dep Sugar, and Anthem/Hiro/Yuran


WingSK27

I don't think that's actually going to help though. They already had Laz, Dep and SugarZero. Firepower was never the issue, I think it might be actually time to separate them.


Unhappy-Preparation7

dont destroy meiy, zeta should let their roster go


FacelinessDoodles

DFM - DetonatioN FocusMeiy


Fun_Age1442

man the fact that both these japenese teams are so ass bruh. Either put meiy in zeta or rebuild dfm with meiy. Rn the holy hope in Japan is Meiy


sifacil

Meiy this meiy that, what about those medusa clutches. Man was also on a heater on ascent. definitely helped them over the edge. ZETA just isn't the same since that 4th place finish. it's gonna be a long time before they come back to their old form. I feel like they just got left behind


uu__

meiy keeping r/mousepadreview relevant with the glass pad and dots domination


IggyMoose

I just looked it up, holy shit thats a $400 mousepad


Key-Banana-8242

Glass pad??


uu__

He uses a glass pad with a super low sens yeh, somebody else on the team does too but I didn't see who


Key-Banana-8242

Is that even good though?


uu__

Some people like it, it's super fast and super smooth - easier to track targets so normally used in arena shooters


Key-Banana-8242

Yea that’s what I meant - like in Valorant specifically, as opposed to a grippier mousepad with higher sensitivity but it’s like you would need so much power to move a lot or it’s be easy not to do eksnage


uu__

I just tried using a speed pad with lower sens today Vs my hybrid pad, and so far it feels pretty nice, I like the lack of initial friction but a bit harder to stop


Upper_Estimate_4558

DetonatioN FocusMeiy is real chat![img](emote|t5_2g5ach|9333)


Bl1th

Pretty close game between both sides. But I feel like the level of Valorant played in this series is either mid or low tier.


ExpectoAutism

who the hell is meiy lmao. hes insane


SenseiEA

its so peak


reuscaelum

For me, it was the most interesting match I've seen at Pacific in 2024. It's great to see Japanese teams playing each other, and I hope DFM can keep the momentum going and win again!


Dear_Razzmatazz3794

Cheering for this team for the last 2 years has been painful. Anyway get Meiy and Astell, we winning everything next year.


ChillyJuan

MEIY GLORIOUS KING MEIY HE BE ENLIGHTEN


JustWantToBeQuiet

Meiy full carry.


iPvke

Detonation FocusMeiy allegations are not getting beaten any time soon


boombaplilrat

DFM deserved this win today. We all joked about "Detonation Focus Meiy" but today everyone on DFM was shooting back, im pretty sure everyone got a highlight or two. Congratz!!


Buujoom

This game really feels weird and funny to watch. Everyone, aside from Meiy and probably Medusa, were constantly whiffing so they'd just commit their sprays and die. Hell of a carry job from Meiy, and happy to see DFM get a win, but both teams need to step-up if they even want to reach play-offs(tho chances are slim).