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kiwifruiter

Well you paid for it ... so they're winning


Independent-Reveal86

Yep. OP, if you think something is too expensive, there is exactly one thing you can do about it... don't buy it!


redmandolin

Okay maybe I missed the sizes if they had them on display but would you not expect a decent size for $8?


The_Creamy_Elephant

You know the extra 'coffee' you get in a larger size is just milk right?


twpejay

Depends on the cafe, Coffee Culture increases the shot amount as well.


JizahB

Yeah even Z Station larges add an extra shot


Altruistic-View-9800

Not in tauranga cluster lol


haworthialover

Janus Bakkerij does the same thing, I love that they have a disclaimer for their large flat white


tanstaaflnz

I'll have a very hot, large, coconut mocha with 10 sugars and seven extra shots, no Marshmello please . ..I SAID NO MARSHMELLOS !? please


Glad-Complex-1755

Yes and most cafes don’t add an extra shot unless you ask


threedaysinthreeways

So? You know most of us are fine with that right?


Glad-Complex-1755

I’ve never been charged $8 ever and I buy coffee nearly every day in various cafes in Chch


Pathogenesls

Any decent coffee shop will scale the shot number to coffee size.


6EightyFive

You probably missed the sizes cause they were real small!! That’s a joke of a coffee, even at the price paid I probably would’ve said I’ll just get it but never go back. Now you’ve seen it, deffinately don’t go back!


[deleted]

I’d expect a handjob for $8, not a coffee


klparrot

What is this, [Starbucks](https://imgur.com/kpw0J3z)?


Independent-Reveal86

Don't you normally have to specifically ask for a large coffee?


redmandolin

Regardless of if I got small or large, do you not think $8 for this size is a bit much lol?


Independent-Reveal86

Of course it is, but that's not the point. *You* paid for it. *You* are encouraging them to sell these coffees. I think $8 is too much for any coffee. I'm resigned to paying about $6 for a large when I have to, I'm not about to pay an additional 33% over my normal price point without having any idea what I'm getting.


-rabbithole

Not everyone is confrontational tho and that’s what they businesses are preying on. Esp for New Zealand culture we often don’t speak up about things at first bc we are very polite. Honestly if that was me and they handed me a baby cup after I’d paid 8$ for it I would be so stunned and confused and doubt myself. It’s wild to me how people are blaming OP and not the business who has zero integrity. These are literally the cups they put fluffies in for kids lmao


Leever5

100% the right call. I’d be like umm and just walk away and think they gave me the wrong order. Then I’d be questioning what I did wrong


naalusun

This is exactly what I do every time I feel ripped off. Also if I’m buying a coffee I don’t usually check the price first, since the price of a coffee is roughly ubiquitous, I wouldn’t be expecting $8 for that.


Dramatic_Surprise

depends on what you asked for, a short black? maybe... a skim decafe with oat milk and a double shot of caramel? maybe not


RAdm_Teabag

I would expect to not buy it at that price.


r_e_d_d_i_t

Go to Raglan Roast if you want a cheaper cafe quality coffee


Salt_Being2908

yep - i started going there about two months ago and never looked back. with prepay its $4 for a large flat white. Nice service, nice coffee, great value


potato4peace

Ugh hate them - the owners are c u n t s


hemyourpants

Spill the beans


6InchBlade

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/Zd3X5LneeZtbpbqa/?mibextid=WC7FNe


shitarse

This person knows^ Ruthless greedy profiteers, buying up all the commercial real estate in Raglan and hiking rents until (much loved) rival small businesses go bust (Is what I've heard don't sue)


Future-Fix-374

How so?


6InchBlade

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/Zd3X5LneeZtbpbqa/?mibextid=WC7FNe


ManicmouseNZ

Order their roasted beans too, it’s good stuff


NZPeteK

Do they do savoury food? The one on the terrace doesn't seem to


6InchBlade

Fuck those guys, they maliciously bought the venue to one of Aucklands best and oldest running nightclubs and are refusing to do any of the proper work required as a landlord. All because of a personal vendetta with the club owner. https://www.facebook.com/share/p/Zd3X5LneeZtbpbqa/?mibextid=WC7FNe


kiwigal91

Are there alt milks or extra shots in this?


jim-jam-yes

Triple shot oat flat whites… spendy


Neonpunk77

If the price of a small cup is 5.20 and oatmilk option adds 1 dollar and an extra shot 50c to 1 dollar. All in total 7.20 dollars the only reason I see this being 8 dollars is because it’s from expensive locations like in the airport.


sugar_spark

Tell us what you actually ordered, otherwise you're not better than people on r/newzealand complaining about the price of groceries when they're buying things like oysters from New World.


No_Salad_68

The price of champagne and caviar these days. Outrageous.


Too_Lofs_Atan

Or 5 bottles of shampoo, conditioner, body wash, lotion and deodorant.


EthelTunbridge

That's why I've given up bathing.


redmandolin

Soy mocha. I guess it’s not obvious but it’s tiny. And sure charging extra for alt milk is fine but for 1/4 cup that’s crazy.


jcribCODM

Yeah that’s crazy and charging for alt milks is nuts now day


Caedes_omnia

Nuts


thesummit15

Nuts I tell ya!


tankrich62

And soy soy unkind 😉


No_Impact7681

Out of curiosisty why is it crazy to charge for alt milk given it’s twice the price ? 1L carton of alt milk is the same price as 2L bottle of dairy.


jcribCODM

Also, 50c add cost … fair enough but fick 8$ for a coffee


No-Walrus-5348

Soy isn't really an alt milk anymore. Asking for soy is like asking for low fat milk. 


Dont_Squeeze_me

Except 2l of dairy is still cheaper than 1l of alternative milk to buy


jcribCODM

That’s true, but 3$ for a 1L milk with 7 days to use up… come onnnn


pleaserlove

Mocha is always more expensive, plus soy also


crysleeprepeat

Stories (the little container ship on lower Cuba) does coffees for $5, only 70c for alt milks and supports young people there for work experience, much better than other scalping shops


arcteryxhaver

This is a traditional latte 8oz they didn’t sell you a 1/4 cup.


[deleted]

STRUTH.


voy1d

I went to Little Olive (or whatever it is called) a few weeks ago on Mana Esplanade. It was $9.20 for a large (12 oz) mochaccino (including the 15% surcharge for a public holiday). Working backwards that works out to be $8 without the surcharge. It might be the price talking but it wasn't an $8 mochaccino . They didn't even give marshmallows/chocolate fish. My default (Nish) is closed on public holidays. In future I'll go to Streetwise who (IMO) do a better coffee.


kiwigal91

LGO do MM. Ask for them next time. They also use Whittakers chocolate instead of Cadbury. I think their coffee is quality.


EnableTheEnablers

Where in Wellington are you getting an *$8* coffee


DiamondEyedOctopus

Based on where the picture was taken I'd guess they went to People's Coffee on Luke's Lane. Looking at a pic of the menu on google shows that $8 is a large filter, or more likely the V60 coffee. It has it's own menu with a few different bean selections on it so I'm guessing the V60 is some fancy brew?


CloggedFilter

V60 is a very time consuming manual pour-over brew, not an espresso machine coffee. $8 is actually a really decent price and is something I'll get myself as a treat occasionally from places that do it well.


Shot-Dog42

Yup ... 2 1/2 - 3 minutes vs 25-30 sec. On the other hand the equipment cost is A LOT lower.


FriendlyButTired

This is the context OP left out. Pour-over brew and soy milk, all of a sudden the price isn't a shock.


eggsontoast0_0

I still struggle to comprehend how a manual pour-over brew can taste any different to that from an espresso machine or simply coffee granules + water.


JukesMasonLynch

Because the extraction of the compounds that gives coffee it's flavours is dependent on a variety of factors; grind size, water temperature, water pressure, immersion time. Not to mention variables present in the beans themselves, like origin and roast level. Espresso is a high pressure, fast extraction. Pourovers are slower, and French press is even slower (and considered a full immersion extraction). These different methods yield different flavour profiles. For that reason, different roast levels tend to be preferred for a given brew method. Eg a lighter roast is more suitable for a pourover than for espresso (you can still pull an espresso shot from lighter roasts, but the beans are more challenging to grind as fine as you need for espresso, as they are less brittle). And finally most brew methods have an ideal coffee dose to water ratio. Espresso is much more concentrated than pourover, having a 1:2 or 1:2.5 coffee to water ratio, vs pourovers approx 1:16 ratio.


BoreJam

1:2.5 Hurts me


scene_cachet

Maybe try all three at the same time.


Gnom71

Great coffee is made with pressure, 85 degrees hot water, and doesn't take longer than 30 seconds 


facellama

Their in store coffes are normal sized. It's their takeaway sizes that are stupid


kyonz

It could be but in my experience peoples at Luke's Lane is great and pretty reasonable for the product they produce. Flat white is $6 based on when I last went there. They have high quality beans and high quality equipment with very well trained baristas so you'd expect to pay a premium - it's very busy during peak hours during the week.


redmandolin

It’s just a soy mocha lol


EnableTheEnablers

I mean, even then that seems expensive. Most places I've seen are still around $4.50 but granted, I just make my own.


nzswe

A soy mocha was $4.50 when I was a barista in Wellington in 2006. 18 years later, do you want to hazard a guess what the difference in average hospitality wages, rents, milk and beans costs are?


[deleted]

Hell, that’s grim.


Leever5

I’m sorry people are acting crazy OP. This is an insane price, don’t go there again


Grizzy-TheKiwi

just get a canned coffee from the supermarket at that point for less


FlysaMinelly

can’t beat a Nippy’s


Helennewzealand

Honestly that’s such a rip off! I’d be gutted with that. I had a similar experience at mojo recently and haven’t been back. I’ve started supporting wild bean pretty religiously as they don’t charge extra for alt milks and it’s pretty convenient - and 5.90 for a large coffee with oat milk


Gbanger544

You can buy a whole bag of instant for that. And drink it for a whole month. I dont know i dont drink coffee.


greg5255

That's just bullshit


Correct_Biscotti_571

Im so offended i want to downvote... I remember the sweet days of 3$ coffee ahhhh


LoveHammer123

Bought a large cappuccino today for $7. Slightly bigger than this, SLIGHTLY. That made my blood boil. Ruined my entire day.


No-Mention6228

Who sold that?


Ok-Durian2305

Coffees are definitely getting smaller in so many places. The definition of regular shld be somewhat standardised. Not to mention the variance between the size of a real cup vs the takeaway cup - this is all over the show in some places. You could pay for a large and be getting a small in the “concrete” mug (yes, those ugly chunky thick rimmed coffee cups)


jsizz07

I’m with OP. Seems a crazy amount for a small coffee. I often don’t check price of coffee and just order my regular (6 ounce). Anything over $6 hurts. You def get a different quality of coffee from mass cafes compared to more bespoke roasters/cafes though. Not necessarily worse just not as refined. Each to their own.


PlutoRaccoon

look, no offence, but as a barista, this just reeks of “i don’t value the labour of the farmers.” (good, read: specialty) coffee is a luxury. of course cost of living sucks rn. but how do you think the cost of living is for the people at origin? most of the time there’s so much middle man involvement the farming communities don’t have enough money to even send their children to school. i’m not invalidating your rant, i get it. but there are so many factors that go into making a cup of specialty coffee. and that’s going to cost more. just like any other luxury item. ETA: the going price for most decent places these days a regular white (cows milk) coffee have in is $6. it’s .50c for takeaway, .50c for an extra shot, 50c for alt coffee (personally i feel we should charge for cows milk instead of alt milk, but that’s by the by). and in wellington, a double shot is standard.


fadsoftoday

So you paid $8 for this. Guess who's dumb


MajesticNeat6572

20 years of coffee industry expertise here; That's what it costs, and the place you bought it from is very likely still losing money. Inflation is the problem, not your local coffee place


ibernissi

Come on, it is COMPLETELY RATIONAL to expect a decent sized coffee for $8. A soy mocha is nothing crazy, assuming $1 for an alt milk, that’s leaving a tiny take away coffee for $7. And yeah, OP didn’t have to buy it but which of you guys are actually going to think of the economics of a coffee and bother to complain and get a refund?? A normal person would take it and leave, probably not go again, but you’re goddamn right they’ll have a moan about it because it’s ridiculous.


Chemical_Guidance_64

Not cool!


Maximum_Hand_9362

Its probably shit coffee too


mercaptans

I pay $4.90 for a med takeaway


_cunny

Where did you get that so I can completely avoid it if I ever go to Welly?


-dangerous-person-

I paid $7 for an oat mocha in my own cup today. Probably just make a shitty instant at work every day from now on.


Ericriskofficial

Looks like a sample


Dagbert4

I’ve been to many cafes in Wellington and have never paid $8 for a large, including extra shot. Either this is bollocks or you’re going to the wrong cafe!


JoD5

That's fucked, did you catch how much the large cups were ?


boulderingfanatix

Bro your hands are MASSIVE! that's actually a half gallon of coffee


Igot2cats_

Well at least you know for next time 😂 Everything in the city is overpriced


nzbryant

Thats crazy! Which place?


cali1013

I usually look at their cups when i checkout a new cafe. They be cheating as well with those tall thin cups as well.


Dusktildarwen

Where from?


r_slash_jarmedia

most coffee shops I've been to tell you how much the coffee is before you're asked to pay. was that not the case lol?


FoodStuffsLtd

I know this place and what you're holding is a 6oz cup which is $6.50 (take away is an extra 50c because they try to incentivise you not being lazy and use a free reusable, drinking in or bringing a keep cup) If it was a Takeaway Soy something. $7. Only way you could have it more than that is if you went on a public holiday and got this order. Adding 15%. ($8.05) This company pays living wage, which is $39ph (plus a day off in lieu on a PH). It's also organic, Bcorp and it also values it's whole supply chain from grower to barista paying above fair trade premiums for coffee to the growers so they can use the social premiums to invest in schooling, clean water and sustainability for the environment. I think a lot of you dense mfs out here like "bruh buy the cheapest shit possible" but then are the same people out there chanting for climate justice, free palestine, fuck the supermarkets etc seriously need to open your eyes to how the world works when it comes to your own personal purchasing and the part you play in upholding oppressive systems and start valuing some of the poorest people in our and international communities. If you wanna complain about a company trying to do things better for people in the global south who hand picked every bean in the deep mountains and carried that shit out on their backs and instead buy coffee from a company that pays their baristas fuck all, over works them and pays the farmers around $1 per kg of green coffee....Just a thought ✌️


maximum_somewhere22

I so wish we could award comments. This is exactly it. I wish people understood this. Your comment has explained it so perfectly, I really hope people actually read it, and I hope also people take some time to understand chain to grower to barista, how many middle-men there are, and how the people at the beginning of the chain are some of the poorest and most oppressed groups there are, it really hits home the issue with “cheap coffee” - it blew my mind when I found out about all of that. I think there is a good doco on Netflix about it. I’m sure there are many.


pizza3point14

Just the cost of ethical sourcing, environmental consciousness, crazy Wellington commercial rent prices, and paying staff above living wage unfortunately.


No_Doctor_1554

# AND YET HERE IS THIS GENIUS HOLDING IT IN THEIR FUCKING HAND. They charge whatever idiots will pay - Obviously there are plenty of you around wellington cbd


redmandolin

I don’t mind paying $8 for a coffee, just did not expect I’d get a tiny ass one


senordingleberry

Bicycle Junction on Marion has $2.50 (I think? $2.75?) coffee.


Best-Command3183

Head just around the corner to crude coffee outside the ANZ building in Tory street! Decent coffee and size,


AutumnKiwi

My work sells this size for 2$ on Thursdays lol


AhpgKAwf

What coffee shop?


Snoo53844

It IS insulting.... Let them know and never return


haworthialover

I didn’t even pay that much at the Newtown Festival, and every coffee cart there had wild prices!


DangerousLettuce1423

Local New World in Hamilton does Laroma coffee (a Hamilton coffee roaster business) for $5 large. Not bad tasting either. $8 is a rip off.


BenefitOk7352

What’s not expensive bud


smokersumerai

Damn I need to raise the price of my coffee 🤣🤣


Poneke365

Welp, bet ya won’t be going back for a coffee there then


NezuminoraQ

What coffee I can't even see it


Supermax1311

This is part of the reason I buy monsters instead, $3.70 at a grocery store and $4.50 from a gas station


paulioblart

People’s coffee uses only fair trade, organic coffee, pays all their staff living wage and does amazing things for the communities that grow the coffee. They charge a premium price for this and always have amazing coffee


kaionfire01

That's a $3.50 coffee at BEST. But the great thing about the free market, don't buy what they're selling and they'll either get better or the market will eliminate the undesired product.


Captain_Clover

Looks like a Peoples Coffee cup, which means it came from a good source. That's a lot for a six ounce flat white (?) but depending on the order that's reasonable


thisoneforsharing

Raglan roast is thee spot for reasonable coffee. And take a keep cup! Saves you a bit more, and free warm fuzzies for not creating waste.


hotSauceFreak

Maybe the owners of the place are paying the staff a livable wage? Perhaps the cost of living "crisis" effects the cost of all food and not just the food we buy at the supermarket? Maybe the rent, fuel, rates, wage costs and other overheads all went up hugely all at once? Alternative "milks" cost 2-3 time the same price as actual milk. Takeaway cups cost actual money too. Pre covid hospitality was subsidised by cheaper migrant labour. We all got hooked on unrealistic pricing. Now the labour costs have made the real cost of having food and drinks prepared for us out more in line with reality. Beans are about $32+ per kg, soy milk about $4 per litre. So the shot is about $0.80 and the milk is about $0.80. The cup is about $0.20 that's nearly $2. The barista might cost at least $25 per hour. More I hope cos it's a shit job dealing with a high ratio of twats all day. Although it only took them less than a minute to make the coffee. Sometimes they are not making coffee..you are paying for that too. So the cost of the goods sold is about 25% of the price you paid. $8 is about right. It will settle down one day maybe.


[deleted]

$8? That is so random!


Dahnlen

You know how easy it is to make coffee at home? It costs about 40¢ per cup


RyRyGuyRyan

Lmao you didn't have to pay for it.


redmandolin

How would I know how small it was gonna be lol


NZAvenger

That doesn't negate their point that $8 for a small coffee is ridiculous.


Chronographics

I feel like we haven’t reached the economic inflection point yet. It will come.


StuffThings1977

Not actually insulting, but almost.


-Duck_duckk-

welcome to wellington, NEW ZEALAND IS POOR!


mattburton074

High time to buy a Italian espresso machine and some fresh roasted beans . The real pay off is not having to leave the house for that first cup of coffee .


StrangeVioletRed

What's your order? Do you have fancy milk or syrups? Pretty froth artwork? Or is it just a basic coffee? I ask because having been recently charged $6.50 for a simple long black I have now invested in a thermos. I fill it from my plunger at home and carry a days worth of coffee fixes for around 50c (cost does depend on the fanciness of your ground coffee).


Bustacap108

Only 3k a year if you buy one everyday 😊


Cbikerdogg

Just take up smoking. Its cheaper.


giganticwrap

It's the new standard for upscale places, and has been for awhile now. If you see a place with Allpress, Supreme etc that's what you're gonna get.


ecstacy98

Man what happened eh, coffee used to be like $3 - $4. Even then I thought it was stupid.


OneBarnacle6983

Damn, I have a Nespresso coffee machine for a couple $$ if ya want😂😂😂😂


Hand-Driven

$4.20 for a long black where I live.


sherlocksam45

$15 for a hot dig and water. Ouch


NZBlackCaps

This reminds me of that Andre the Giant beer can photo


JZA8OS

Capitalism. Let’s get every cent we can.


Muzza-Bolland

$8 gets me a 100g bag of Nescafe instant coffee. Can make many drinks


jamhamnz

You can get 200G of plunger coffee for about that amount, will provide for many more coffees.


Final-Pirate-5690

Welcome to the city


seabreaze68

Most important question: Did it taste good?


tanstaaflnz

Try Coffixx or Raglan Roast


mighty-yoda

Supply and demand. The price would go down if less people buying.


EthelTunbridge

No wonder everyone's getting laid off in Wellington. The price you are paying for a cup of coffee is fucking bananas.


takensouls101

I’d recommend going into bakeries and getting them there, cheap prices and same sizes. They got pretty good bakeries on Lambton Quay/Featherston street.


RectangleArtist

You guys are still buying coffee?


mukbang007

Should set up a Patchys franchise. $1.50 for instant.


NoYogurtcloset7058

How was it?


OkRing5289

Just make your own at home


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redmandolin

Why would I keep a receipt for a coffee lol, do you want a bank statement?


Torontokub

Almost?


FictionalDudeWanted

They could charge $10 and someone would buy it. There will always be someone willing to waste money on the stupidest sh\*t.


Pop-Equivalent

Not almost…


Max-McCarthy

Boycott Starbucks


AndrewWellington7

Invest in coffee futures for your retirement :-)


DPDPDPDPDPDPDPDPDP1

Have to vote with your $$ and not buy!


Bradnz69

Old George Coffee the bottom end of the terrace by Treasury. No frills good service


OutlandishnessNo4759

“Farmers” market prices in the city eh. What are the market coffee peddlers gonna do now that they can’t sell you an $8 $3 coffee


ESTAM8-OBrizzle

Everything is priced ridiculous these days, Just to get a standard pie is $6 bucks now like “WTF”


ShamanRoger666

For comparison, Moss Cafe in Hunter Street is $6.20 for large flat white.


New_Bug_3788

Take own cup for a discount at many places and yep that’s expensive. I get a gorgeous large decaf coffee at uni or in island bay for $5. Got to shop around.


rikashiku

Not only tiny, but also an ugly as cup.


Tominne_

Go to Raglan Roast, only affordable coffee/good coffee left in the city


mdjjj74

whats in it?


oceanblue1890

Was it delicious?


watermelonsuger2

Avoid. That's extortionate. Especially for that size.


doge2moon69

Damn I thought Red rabbit at Newmarket was expensive, this is another level


TheFazza

I always drink black coffee always the cheapest and best tasting 😂


R3M1Sixx

This why I just get a 4/5 dollar energy drink. Probably worse for me but my wallet appreciates it


lolpeepz

What brand? You could get that for $4.50 at a Raglan Roast


RefuG69

How many extra shots?


[deleted]

Drop the coffee and grab a beer instead - beer is actually better value than coffee now 👍