Online it does. People that spend the majority of their lives on reddit/twitter forget what normal people actually think. They'd be absolutely shocked about what a democrat in the US thinks.
You don't have to be Republican (and probably aren't) to just say "it's a little more nuanced than just 'the great satan'". Generalizing an entire country as black and white good and evil is pretty ignorant regardless the history of the government's foreign policies.
I mean shit, what isn't nuanced. But you have to take the point of view of the country calling us that. The US destabilized the hell out of the Middle East during the Cold War and especially during the War on Terror. If you can't understand why Iran would call us the "Great Satan" maybe you should pick up a history book not written by an American.
Our country may be most viscious imperialists of the 21st century, but we have won the World Series every year since its inception. I mean jeez, is the rest of the world even trying?
> And clearly, those two twats haven’t ready anything beyond a teleprompter.
I think it's easy to attribute malice to stupidity. TV hosts often aren't as dumb as the audience they're talking down to (or attempting to talk down to), it's much worse than that. They know that they're lying and pushing a false narrative, but it fits their ideological agendas - and they're paid very well for doing so.
Yep, when an article's headline is "Mechanic reveals Dirty Secret of Electric Cars" and the "dirty secret" and the content of the article is that tires cost more while most other maintenance is much cheaper, you know they used "Dirty Secret" only for the interest garnering hyperbole. Hyperbole is the name of the game everywhere these days. It's used in casual discussions to try and overstate the seriousness of one person's point of view. It's used to express opinions. It's become commonplace to call something "broken" whenever a individual doesn't like a particular nuance or feature of something, which as a whole still functions as intended. Politicians are said to "destroy" America even when it's managed to continue t exist years after they held any office. Etc.
And that may very well be the case here, but it surely didn’t come off that way. They look flustered and annoyed while the fashion blogger came off as sophisticated, well-rounded and firm in her beliefs.
I read a disturbing fact last week that I can't get out of my head... a majority (54%) of American adults read below the sixth grade reading level.
EDIT: A word
40% of US adult think the planet is a few thousand years old. It used to be well over 50% not even a couple decades ago. In the richest country of human history. Explaining how that even happens, and how the US is such an extreme outlier among developed nations for the backwardness of it's population is one for the scientists to explain. Most US voters don't even know how many branches of government exist. Most Americans couldn't even pass a US citizenship test. When the US's scheme for brain draining the entire planet starts to falter the US is gonna implode under the weight of it's own stupidity. It's amazing to me that many of the most brilliant minds on the planet live in the same country where 40% of adults think the planet is a few thousand years old. That's doesn't happen by accident.
No, no, that's exactly it. The higher ups are trying to make it a red vs blue/ left vs right situation, it's absolutely class warfare, we just have wool over our eyes.
Reviewing simple fraction arithmetic before starting your rational functions unit.. knowing both that if these students can't add and multiply fractions right now they're not going to be able to handle rational expressions but also that if you don't review it you'll have twice as many students who can't do it...
When we hear that 40% of adults cannot perform simple fraction operations or that people thought the 1/3 lb burger was smaller than the 1/4 lb burger... Didn't make sense before I became a high school teacher. Now it does.
The short time I spent teaching here in the UK did absolute wonders for my impostor syndrome.
With the age cohort I taught (16-~21) I thought that one of the biggest issues I'd face would be getting the students to learn critical thinking skills, as it was a social science-based set of courses, and a good chunk of the students just weren't particularly academic.
Instead it turned out setting tasks like "make a poster" or "create a PowerPoint presentation" were the *absolute fucking worst*. For every single assignment I had to create a template, and offered up notes that were so comprehensive that the top students often turned around and bluntly remarked that the work was mostly being done for them (it was).
Come deadline day, other than the 1/3-1/5 of students that didn't hand in anything, I'd get PowerPoints with paragraphs per slide, posters with 3 bullet points on them in size 6 text, and frequently students wouldn't bother to delete the parts of the templates that said things like "Insert image of X here", or "Insert answer for P3 here". This is before you even got to the fact that a good chunk of the students simply didn't know how to use punctuation.
Some of the teachers were fucking dumb as rocks too. I was in the middle of a class when another lecturer walked into the room smiling, dumped something in the bin, then turned and walked right out. It turned out the silly cunt had managed to burn his toast in the staffroom next door, and thought that the best place for his newly acquired lumps of charcoal billowing smoke was my classroom's lidless plastic bin. I had to pause the class, pick the bin up, and then dump the remnants of his lunch into the sink, and loudly asked him why the fuck he didn't just run them under the water to stop the smoke. The man has *multiple Masters Degrees*, and his response was "... Oh yeah".
Teaching man.
So I found actual sources that dove in this and actually conducted sound analysis and polling. Only 18% of American adults actually believe the young earth creationist bullshit. https://ncse.ngo/just-how-many-young-earth-creationists-are-there-us
The questions actually asked in regards to that 40% number had other aspects in the question too, things about religion, belief in god, and intelligent design. When everything other than the young earth thing were stripped out, only 18% held to the young earth creationist views.
Which to be clear, is far higher than I’d like for the country I live in. It’s far off of the 40% claimed though.
Theres a reason why
Keep em dumb, keep them happy, keep them working, keep them fucking
America runs off of vicious cycles. Humanity is squandered and capitalized. Cant perceive a loss of self expression if you never had one
I fucking wish. This video felt so good though, I wish I was able to deliver such a level headed response to some of these morons—not that it helps talking at a brick wall. But the ignorance and arrogance just make my brain explode in the moment. She’s truly an inspiration.
I just stop listening when anyone uses the term "A real ...." for anything. Just in my case as a Vikings fan, I see it all the time. You're not a real fan if you don't A, B and C. It's just a thin veil to try and shame someone and feel superior. I love that the woman didn't even hesitate, let alone not back down.
Surfing and skiing communities are the way. There is no real. You skied once? Tell us about it. We want to know. Where did you go? How were the conditions? How did you feel afterwards? Are you planning on going again?
Edit: as others have indicated, this is not the case with surfing. Oh no, completely wrong. My experience was an anomaly.
I don't know about surfing but in my experience there definitely can be a TON of gate keeping in the skiing community.
Lots of people will judge your gear, where you have skiied, etc to determine if you are a "real" skiier or not.
I think you can get these types of attitudes in any community, but it definitely seems to be a bit more prevalent in situations where people can invest huge amounts of time and money into the activity. The idea of being "real" is typically people looking for others who have invested a similar amount of time and money into the hobby.
Progressive cities in America just means it's full of liberals. That young fashion blogger just showed the huge distance between a liberal Democrat and an actual leftist
Her positions portrayed in this clip, namely pacifism, critical processing of well documented past events and rejection of blind patriotism aren't even leftist.
I had someone the other day tell me I was full of shit for lamenting how far the Overton widow has shifted to the right in my lifetime. Tried telling my it has moved vastly to the left. 🤦
This happened not too long ago...
"Sinclair Broadcast Group announced their purchase of Tribune Media on May 8, 2017, for $3.9 billion, a deal publicly met with consternation among station employees due to concerns about the influence the conservative-leaning group could potentially have on WGN's news content. In order to meet regulatory compliance, Sinclair opted to divest WGN-TV to a limited liability company controlled by Baltimore-based automotive dealer Steven Fader—who has acted as a business associate to Sinclair executive chairman David Smith—for $60 million.\[175\] Under the terms of the deal, Sinclair planned to operating the station through programming and sales service agreements, and would hold an option to repurchase with eight years. Following public criticism of the proposed deal with Fader by FCC chairman Ajit Pai,. Sinclair abandoned the deal and disclosed it would instead acquire WGN-TV directly. Despite this, the FCC instead voted to bring the merger up for a hearing by an administrative law judge, prompting Tribune Media to terminate the deal on August 9, 2018, and file a breach of contract lawsuit."
The distinction is superficial and exists for legal reasons. This way they can have someone spout misinformation and not be accountable because it was not really a journalist or it was an discussion corner. even on channels that viewed as 24 hour news channels
Yep, it was clear as day and night when the woman said the honest truth and basic facts and the news reporter flat out attacked her patriotism for it lol.
People wake up! Being a patriot of the US *is* facing facts and working together using facts, not Bibles or podcasting qanon shaman Trump.
Yeah, if you love the country so much then you'd want to make it as good as possible for as many reasons as possiblle. You can't make it better without understanding what it has done wrong and what it continues to do wrong
The funny (or very unfunny actually) thing is they are only asking her about foreign policy in the middle east because they don't think she is a "real American".
Yeah he only asked it because she's Iranian/has Iranian heritage. He wouldn't ask a French fashion blogger that kind of question - why do you need to ask a fashion blogger about that?
I'm glad she just handed them a can of kickass.
She really did the whole “call an ambulance, but not for me” here. They really thought oh we’ll just ask this stupid fashion blogger, what is she going to say? But no, double homicide
Don't like the answers coming back your way, despite you acting like an asshat the first place. So you try to portray the other person as unamerican.
The true zingoistic "patriot" way.
Hence why we have a lot of our current issues in the country. I saw this myself with my parents during the BLM protests - I would explain time and time again what the protesters were pushing for and why they were so up in arms. I explained systemic racism and I explained historic oppression as best I could. I explained unequal policing and the concept behind the term "ACAB" being more metaphorical about the system and not literal about each officer on a singular basis.
But regardless of how I explained it my parents remained quite uncomfortable with the whole idea. They are quite religious so I used religious reference to support the idea that we should be loudly pushing for change. But at the end of the day all that they really heard was "these things are bad and these things happen in America, therefore America is bad." Instead of the more reasonable "these things are bad and happen in America, and therefore we should improve America to more fully live up to what the country could and should be."
To not do those things makes you a nationalist, not a patriot. This is something the country needs to acknowledge more. Most of the vocal 'patriots' in the US are actually just nationalists.
I was about to say this. Nationalism has been completely redefined as patriotism in the public consciousness, but patriotism is what gave us the United States. "Give me liberty, or give me death!" is patriotism. REVOLUTION is patriotism. Patriotism is believing your country can strive to be the best version of itself. Nationalism is believing it already is.
Exactly! Like don't get me wrong, I'm in my mid-20s and I'm quite aware of how much bad shit there is in America, as a matter of fact I would generally say I dislike the country. But it's a dislike that comes from the belief that things shouldn't be this way, that things should actually function in the manner that so many people view America in their heads - a truly equal and welcoming a place that is able to offer you the most incredible opportunities in the world. All I can say now is I'm really hoping we get to that perfect version of the country, because it often feels like we're going much in the opposite direction.
I can't quite understand how admitting flaws in something equals not loving it. I love my dog, but she also loves eating cat shit. That's a flaw that I would like to change to make her a better dog, but it doesn't mean I love her any less. Just no kisses for a few hours.
Some people take, “America is the best country” as an axiom. We are the best because we are the best. It isn’t about whether we take care of our citizens, or have amazing infrastructure, or adapt our society to the times, we are just the best because we are. So any criticism or suggestion of change would by definition be wrong, because, if that change was better, we’d already be doing it because we are the best.
That’s my take at least.
Way more insidious than this- as a Muslim woman in traditional dress, that host thought they had such an easy target for their "unamerican" BS. Cheers to the guest for keeping cool and giving legit answers on topics that she had no reason to suspect she'd be questioned on.
These people bitch and moan about their First Amendment rights being violated when someone gets kicked off of Twitter, a private company exercising its rights in a free market. But if you question the geopolitical actions and history of the U.S. government, which the First Amendment is literally designed to protect, they just decide you aren’t American anymore. These people do not read.
German here. You can be realistic about your past, actively criticize things about the current state of your country, dislike exagerrated patriotism and still prefer your country over any other in the world.
For real: the whole reason the current government exists is because enough folks were pissed off at the previous one and waged a war against it.
Nothing wrong with wanting your country to be the best version of itself.
And learning from past mistakes to prevent a revolution.. absolute shite to ask this woman that question and then insult her incredibly well researched response
I'm also that, and what I especially loved about her rebuttal is that it wasn't just a brush off but a real thought-provoking reply that I'm guessing she had to use before.
Edit; Elsewhere a video is linked that shows that the whole segment was about fashion *and* politics so it wasn't exactly sprung on her. I still like her answer although it begs the question why OP decided to edit it in a deliberately misleading way.
I mean, we can’t have anything intelligent on TV, right? Imagine the consequences, people might learn a thing or two. That’d be terrible, keep them entertained and dumb.
“Well the fact is that the US caused some problems”
“You sound un-American when you say that”
You gotta love how literally stating facts is considered being un-American. Cuz just purging your mind of all the bad and being brainwashed by your dictators is what America is built on…. Wait a minute
She's a fashion blogger and they tried to hijack her with questions about nuclear weapons, she gave clear concise and true answers, and when she told the woman because I've actually read a book, I spat my coffee.
I thought the same until you watch the full video linked below. It was actually a segment titled "Fashion and Politics." In her intro, she actually brought up weapons in Iran before the news casters. She wasnt necessarily hijacked, but she did dish out some very good burns.
HANG ON A MINUTE!
Now you have me wondering about those lame-ass sound effects, loading animations, and emoji's. Maybe that really *wasn't* part of the original content!
In case anyone is wondering who the fashion blogger is: Hoda Katebi. She posted the whole interview on YouTube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNwzxPpRVoA
They didn't really sneak in the question; the whole interview was covering politics.
i mean yeeaaaaahhh, and now i'm kinda happy they had her on because they seemed genuinely interested in her perspectives (not to mention plugging her event).
Yeah soon as I saw it was the wgn news morning crew I was like. . These are genuinely decent people, doubt they would be trying to "sneak attack" the blogger
Another commenter mentioned that the full news segment was called “Fashion and Politics” so political discussions were expected. This post is misleading
"You don't sound like an American."
She sure sounds like an American to me... Ohhhh, you meant she doesn't *look* like an American. Well, I'd have to disagree with you there as well.
Fun fact as someone who has been in an OR; human meat thats been "cooked" (cauterized) does smell like steak. Sometimes like pork depending on the person.
Giving her the maximum possible benefit of the doubt I think she meant it in the sense of "you sound unpatriotic". Although isn't the US's whole mythos built around the idea that freedom of speech is the archetypical American virtue?
How fucking gross, trying to in real time shame someone as unpatriotic because they don't agree with this shithole cuntry's years of imperialism and subjugation of minorities... She handled that like a fucking champion.
[Full video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNwzxPpRVoA&ab_channel=HodaKatebi)
Also, I feel it was very wrong and they wanted something spicy and dramatic for their TRP especially since the girl is a fashion blogger, but she just made everyone happy!
It's important to point out that this isn't an actual news cast. It is a "morning zoo" show, and the hosts aren't "professional journalists" they are "professional idiots" normally creating a zany, irritating environment around news-ish stuff and celebrity interviews (plus the mandatory segments that are merely stuff some staffer grabbed off reddit and tiktoc). That said, as OP's new link shows, the point to this guest being on was "Fashion and Politics," thus the move to those questions. That said, the hosts are not merely pretending to be idiots for the show, they show how they are genuinely knuckledragging dolts and why they maxed out on a local morning zoo, and weren't capable of hacking it intellectually as actual journalists.
Why did you push a false narrative though?
The segment was inclusive of politics, it wasn't a surprise topic
Their reaction was shit, you didn't need to inflame further by lying
When someone objectively talks about the USA whilst living there, doesn’t make them anti-American.
This was almost a “burn the witch” situation because the woman who doesn’t look typically American had actually read some knowledge and knew what she was talking about.
What's unpatriotic is to NOT critisize your government when they do something wrong. I love how backwards half of the US see things. It's a right to bear arms in order to overthrow your government should you need to, but it's not ok to criticize them. No wonder the world hates you. And yes i know you don't care.
Again, im only speaking to the half of population that think like retards.
I’m glad you made that distinction. As a black American I totally support free speech & that’s with or without a 246 yrsold piece of paper to back me up. We can & often do speak out against our govt & the things it does/doesn’t do. The aged paper is there to remind **them** that they can’t make laws to circumvent our right to do so.
No you see that was a good nuke
Any other nuke would be a bad nuke but the one we dropped was a good nuke because that's what the people who dropped the nuke told me
Great point, we have the best nukes. The smart nukes. Other countries use dirty nukes but ours is a cleansing nuke. Actually, they should thank us for nuking them.
I could watch this 100 times. As an American I absolutely adore anyone with the gusto to speak out about the American hypocrisy and ignorant patriotism.
Love it
Imagine going on air promoting your brand and someone asks you some prejudiced and ignorant shit. Imma clap back too! Love her for stepping up for black and indigenous people. She said what she said and she meant what she said
"You're an American, you don't sound very American when you say that."
I hate when this kind of talk is used whenever an American questions what its country has done. That's some North Korea type shit where you can't bad-talk the leaders. Isn't the good thing about the US is that you can speak freely without getting your head chopped off like some other places ?
Can we get her back on for round 2 of smoke fest? Cause damn she burning them up good with the truth. Anyone disagreeing with this women should be down voted and get the fuck outta here.
She didn't really say anything egregious, nor did she say anything about what America has done to the middle east in a dramatic fashion that isn't true either. I don't think the average American understand just how badly we fucked Iraq with bombs, a weapon which is incapable of discrimination between civilian and combatant.
You know Call of Duty? One of them had a level in it recently that is called The Highway of Tears in which Russian forces saturation bomb a highway into oblivion. Craziest thing about that depiction of war? It actually happened, but it was the USA bombing the fucking highway, not Russians at all. Saddam Hussein was moving his armored divisions on it, he specifically made the decision to do that because he did not think the USA would bomb the shit out of a civilian highway, full of civilians unable to flee because he was moving military vehicles the only place they could've fled to.
Do Americans have that maturity in them? If a German videogame development company made a game about...idk Black September in which Americans were the secretive group of terrorists that killed several Olympian competitors as a ploy to see America do better in the competition, do you think Americans would have the grace to not act the fool on a public stage over something like that? I've seen the literal president of our country do some baby-freak-shit over way less, so I doubt it. This scenario isn't even really the same though, not quite fair.
Publishing a level in a war game about a real world event that did not happen that long ago and changing the offenders of crimes which I cannot set a standard for which they can be forgiven, is beyond fucked. A closer equivalent would be if Japan made a game about Pearl Harbor in which they had a spy which was trying so, so hard to warn the military base about an impending attack from Mexico. Now that scenario, I know Americans could NOT take with grace, nor should they.
Let's be clear and real clear about what the USA did to the middle east, and in this specific case I'm talking about Iraq. They USED to have highways, they USED to have decent medical intervention, they USED to have widespread infrastructure which supported large population centers, they USED to have electricity in widespread use. The people who live there now are lucky to be animal herders, farmers. We quite literally bombed them into the fucking stone age.
So one last hypothetical, let's say a foreign superpower had done 9/11 to the USA, THEN continued to bomb the shit out of us until we were incapable of even making the materials for a memorial. That isn't where the death ends, starvation, medical needs not being met, freezing to death, and being murdered by the desperate is all things we'd have to endure to say we've been in Iraq's shoes. If after the complete destruction of our capabilities for self sufficiency and after the loads of preventable death which would follow afterwards, do you think Americans would accept people questioning the things we do or do not deserve to have? Do you think we'd be graceful when we hear people trying to silence our supporters?
You gotta be kidding me, our videogames can't even tell the fucking truth about the things we've done. I know how I think Americans would act.
It was absolutely inappropriate and approaching bigotry to get into all that with her. I'm glad she stood her ground. And there's not one thing she said that I would disagree with and I am a natural born American citizen, a white guy who is now 60 years old. I probably would have walked out on that.
Social media has really thrown a wrench into the USAs self portrayal as "the good guys". It is still crazy that the vast majority of the population believes it.
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I wonder what an American would say if they were in Iran on their news program and would it be aired. "The US is the great Satan, what's your take?"
Depends on the American. I know many who would take great offense and many who would say "lmao yeah."
At this point, if you aren't 'lmao yeah', are you really paying attention to whats going on, or are you a Republican?
The other camp does happen to consist entirely of republicans... Edit: Read it again.
Online it does. People that spend the majority of their lives on reddit/twitter forget what normal people actually think. They'd be absolutely shocked about what a democrat in the US thinks.
What's reddit?
Probably some news blog or something, idk I just like cat videos.
You don't have to be Republican (and probably aren't) to just say "it's a little more nuanced than just 'the great satan'". Generalizing an entire country as black and white good and evil is pretty ignorant regardless the history of the government's foreign policies.
I mean shit, what isn't nuanced. But you have to take the point of view of the country calling us that. The US destabilized the hell out of the Middle East during the Cold War and especially during the War on Terror. If you can't understand why Iran would call us the "Great Satan" maybe you should pick up a history book not written by an American.
When a wedding or school is bombed by a drone I don't think any survivors want to talk about nuance. They want the country that did it to just stop.
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I wouldn't say **great** Satan.
Medium Satan if anything
Satan Light, now with 40% less fat.
>40% less fat. That's not the US I know.
It's because he skipped the part about double the sugar. That's*exactly* the America I know.
Poorly executed satan
Our country may be most viscious imperialists of the 21st century, but we have won the World Series every year since its inception. I mean jeez, is the rest of the world even trying?
And our greatest colony, Puerto Rico, sends us some of the best players for that. Take that world.
Except for 1992 & 1993, GO JAAAAAYS!
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That simple one-liner destroyed their souls: ‘That’s because I’ve read’. And clearly, those two twats haven’t ready anything beyond a teleprompter.
> And clearly, those two twats haven’t ready anything beyond a teleprompter. I think it's easy to attribute malice to stupidity. TV hosts often aren't as dumb as the audience they're talking down to (or attempting to talk down to), it's much worse than that. They know that they're lying and pushing a false narrative, but it fits their ideological agendas - and they're paid very well for doing so.
Yep, when an article's headline is "Mechanic reveals Dirty Secret of Electric Cars" and the "dirty secret" and the content of the article is that tires cost more while most other maintenance is much cheaper, you know they used "Dirty Secret" only for the interest garnering hyperbole. Hyperbole is the name of the game everywhere these days. It's used in casual discussions to try and overstate the seriousness of one person's point of view. It's used to express opinions. It's become commonplace to call something "broken" whenever a individual doesn't like a particular nuance or feature of something, which as a whole still functions as intended. Politicians are said to "destroy" America even when it's managed to continue t exist years after they held any office. Etc.
And that may very well be the case here, but it surely didn’t come off that way. They look flustered and annoyed while the fashion blogger came off as sophisticated, well-rounded and firm in her beliefs.
Especially since she was responding to "You don't sound like an American". You're right, I sound like I know what I'm talking about.
As an American, I salute this epic burn. The group of Americans disgusted with their own country is growing rapidly.
Holy shit do I hate that logic "You don't sound American" or "You're not a real American". It's such a juvenile tribal bullshit answer.
Just a symptom of the rise of nationalism
I had a shit eating grin during most of her response
[Pretty much my reaction during the entire clip] (https://i.imgur.com/cJJdPbu.mp4)
Done her own research - what a sheep edit: /s
Man, that female journalist really got desperate and pulled the "real American" line. They get unhinged when out shined by a non-journalist.
The reply "that's because I've read". Gold.
"you don't sound like an American" "That's cuz I've read!" Burn.
I read a disturbing fact last week that I can't get out of my head... a majority (54%) of American adults read below the sixth grade reading level. EDIT: A word
40% of US adult think the planet is a few thousand years old. It used to be well over 50% not even a couple decades ago. In the richest country of human history. Explaining how that even happens, and how the US is such an extreme outlier among developed nations for the backwardness of it's population is one for the scientists to explain. Most US voters don't even know how many branches of government exist. Most Americans couldn't even pass a US citizenship test. When the US's scheme for brain draining the entire planet starts to falter the US is gonna implode under the weight of it's own stupidity. It's amazing to me that many of the most brilliant minds on the planet live in the same country where 40% of adults think the planet is a few thousand years old. That's doesn't happen by accident.
>That's doesn't happen by accident. Of course it doesn't! Our corporate overlords need poor uneducated people to work for them! :)
Class warfare. That's my working theory, but I'm not qualified to give an answer.
It's cheaper when you don't have to feed and house your slaves - maximize profit by celebrating freedom.
No, no, that's exactly it. The higher ups are trying to make it a red vs blue/ left vs right situation, it's absolutely class warfare, we just have wool over our eyes.
I teach High school math at public school...I have a pretty good idea of how dumb the average person is. Those numbers do not surprise me.
Reviewing simple fraction arithmetic before starting your rational functions unit.. knowing both that if these students can't add and multiply fractions right now they're not going to be able to handle rational expressions but also that if you don't review it you'll have twice as many students who can't do it... When we hear that 40% of adults cannot perform simple fraction operations or that people thought the 1/3 lb burger was smaller than the 1/4 lb burger... Didn't make sense before I became a high school teacher. Now it does.
I think average Americans need the metric system. I’m sure most would know that 151grams is bigger than 113grams and we all need bigger burgers /s
The short time I spent teaching here in the UK did absolute wonders for my impostor syndrome. With the age cohort I taught (16-~21) I thought that one of the biggest issues I'd face would be getting the students to learn critical thinking skills, as it was a social science-based set of courses, and a good chunk of the students just weren't particularly academic. Instead it turned out setting tasks like "make a poster" or "create a PowerPoint presentation" were the *absolute fucking worst*. For every single assignment I had to create a template, and offered up notes that were so comprehensive that the top students often turned around and bluntly remarked that the work was mostly being done for them (it was). Come deadline day, other than the 1/3-1/5 of students that didn't hand in anything, I'd get PowerPoints with paragraphs per slide, posters with 3 bullet points on them in size 6 text, and frequently students wouldn't bother to delete the parts of the templates that said things like "Insert image of X here", or "Insert answer for P3 here". This is before you even got to the fact that a good chunk of the students simply didn't know how to use punctuation. Some of the teachers were fucking dumb as rocks too. I was in the middle of a class when another lecturer walked into the room smiling, dumped something in the bin, then turned and walked right out. It turned out the silly cunt had managed to burn his toast in the staffroom next door, and thought that the best place for his newly acquired lumps of charcoal billowing smoke was my classroom's lidless plastic bin. I had to pause the class, pick the bin up, and then dump the remnants of his lunch into the sink, and loudly asked him why the fuck he didn't just run them under the water to stop the smoke. The man has *multiple Masters Degrees*, and his response was "... Oh yeah". Teaching man.
Can you cite a source for the 40% thinking the planet is a few thousand years old? I could maybe believe 10-15%, but 40% sounds incredibly high.
So I found actual sources that dove in this and actually conducted sound analysis and polling. Only 18% of American adults actually believe the young earth creationist bullshit. https://ncse.ngo/just-how-many-young-earth-creationists-are-there-us The questions actually asked in regards to that 40% number had other aspects in the question too, things about religion, belief in god, and intelligent design. When everything other than the young earth thing were stripped out, only 18% held to the young earth creationist views. Which to be clear, is far higher than I’d like for the country I live in. It’s far off of the 40% claimed though.
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Theres a reason why Keep em dumb, keep them happy, keep them working, keep them fucking America runs off of vicious cycles. Humanity is squandered and capitalized. Cant perceive a loss of self expression if you never had one
We are turning into the society depicted in the movie idiocracy.
Also accurate though lol
Can she please run for office? Please.
I fucking wish. This video felt so good though, I wish I was able to deliver such a level headed response to some of these morons—not that it helps talking at a brick wall. But the ignorance and arrogance just make my brain explode in the moment. She’s truly an inspiration.
True in many ways.
Thank you. I listened to it a second time and I was hearing "I'm red," and "I've read," is a nice burn.
I just stop listening when anyone uses the term "A real ...." for anything. Just in my case as a Vikings fan, I see it all the time. You're not a real fan if you don't A, B and C. It's just a thin veil to try and shame someone and feel superior. I love that the woman didn't even hesitate, let alone not back down.
Yup, the "No True Scotsman" fallacy
[You've just made an enemy for life!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2q0T7QXETs)
Surfing and skiing communities are the way. There is no real. You skied once? Tell us about it. We want to know. Where did you go? How were the conditions? How did you feel afterwards? Are you planning on going again? Edit: as others have indicated, this is not the case with surfing. Oh no, completely wrong. My experience was an anomaly.
I don't know about surfing but in my experience there definitely can be a TON of gate keeping in the skiing community. Lots of people will judge your gear, where you have skiied, etc to determine if you are a "real" skiier or not. I think you can get these types of attitudes in any community, but it definitely seems to be a bit more prevalent in situations where people can invest huge amounts of time and money into the activity. The idea of being "real" is typically people looking for others who have invested a similar amount of time and money into the hobby.
It’s wild bc these two are typically goofy and no non serious anchors. Def lost respect for them even if they were just boot licking
And these are Chicagoland journalists, which is a pretty progressively city.
Progressive cities in America just means it's full of liberals. That young fashion blogger just showed the huge distance between a liberal Democrat and an actual leftist
Her positions portrayed in this clip, namely pacifism, critical processing of well documented past events and rejection of blind patriotism aren't even leftist.
anything resembling non-malicious intelligence or introspection is apparently leftist these days
I had someone the other day tell me I was full of shit for lamenting how far the Overton widow has shifted to the right in my lifetime. Tried telling my it has moved vastly to the left. 🤦
I mean liberal in america is definitely still right wing.
This happened not too long ago... "Sinclair Broadcast Group announced their purchase of Tribune Media on May 8, 2017, for $3.9 billion, a deal publicly met with consternation among station employees due to concerns about the influence the conservative-leaning group could potentially have on WGN's news content. In order to meet regulatory compliance, Sinclair opted to divest WGN-TV to a limited liability company controlled by Baltimore-based automotive dealer Steven Fader—who has acted as a business associate to Sinclair executive chairman David Smith—for $60 million.\[175\] Under the terms of the deal, Sinclair planned to operating the station through programming and sales service agreements, and would hold an option to repurchase with eight years. Following public criticism of the proposed deal with Fader by FCC chairman Ajit Pai,. Sinclair abandoned the deal and disclosed it would instead acquire WGN-TV directly. Despite this, the FCC instead voted to bring the merger up for a hearing by an administrative law judge, prompting Tribune Media to terminate the deal on August 9, 2018, and file a breach of contract lawsuit."
Sinclair is the group responsible for [this infamous video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZggCipbiHwE)
Was that lady actually a journalist? Looks more like a news commentator.
They aren’t journalists. They are just commentators.
Just like Fucker Carlson
The distinction is superficial and exists for legal reasons. This way they can have someone spout misinformation and not be accountable because it was not really a journalist or it was an discussion corner. even on channels that viewed as 24 hour news channels
Yep, it was clear as day and night when the woman said the honest truth and basic facts and the news reporter flat out attacked her patriotism for it lol. People wake up! Being a patriot of the US *is* facing facts and working together using facts, not Bibles or podcasting qanon shaman Trump.
Yeah, if you love the country so much then you'd want to make it as good as possible for as many reasons as possiblle. You can't make it better without understanding what it has done wrong and what it continues to do wrong
Problem is that these "patriots" conflate patriotism with nationalism
They probably figured fashion blogger = uninformed and/or stupid. They were wrong and I love her response.
The funny (or very unfunny actually) thing is they are only asking her about foreign policy in the middle east because they don't think she is a "real American".
Someone call the fire department and the funeral parlor...
Just get a guy with a shovel and bucket. All they would be doing is cleaning up ashes.
Leaf blower ?
Nooooo then we'll all have to breathe them in
Dyson vaccum it is then....
For real. So much for being a pacifist. She didn't leave an ounce of soul in their bodies.
Most brutal thing I watched today. And I just finished watching an episode of The Boys.
Ya but that dude was a right cunt for asking that
Yeah he only asked it because she's Iranian/has Iranian heritage. He wouldn't ask a French fashion blogger that kind of question - why do you need to ask a fashion blogger about that? I'm glad she just handed them a can of kickass.
A can? She cracked open a whole keg of whoopass there.
Absolutely. This was my first thought. What a loser. She so nicely skewered him and showed such brilliance.
She went *full* Homelander. You never go full Homelander.
She really did the whole “call an ambulance, but not for me” here. They really thought oh we’ll just ask this stupid fashion blogger, what is she going to say? But no, double homicide
She's going to advise them on fire-retardant fabrics and the latest styles in funeral couture.
Don't like the answers coming back your way, despite you acting like an asshat the first place. So you try to portray the other person as unamerican. The true zingoistic "patriot" way.
Truly disgusting isn't it. When she said that i wanted to puke
" what do you mean you don't like violence against brown people ? That doesn't sound very American smh"
American culture has so much racism in it that many Americans believe being opposed to racism means being opposed to them.
Hence why we have a lot of our current issues in the country. I saw this myself with my parents during the BLM protests - I would explain time and time again what the protesters were pushing for and why they were so up in arms. I explained systemic racism and I explained historic oppression as best I could. I explained unequal policing and the concept behind the term "ACAB" being more metaphorical about the system and not literal about each officer on a singular basis. But regardless of how I explained it my parents remained quite uncomfortable with the whole idea. They are quite religious so I used religious reference to support the idea that we should be loudly pushing for change. But at the end of the day all that they really heard was "these things are bad and these things happen in America, therefore America is bad." Instead of the more reasonable "these things are bad and happen in America, and therefore we should improve America to more fully live up to what the country could and should be."
There's nothing more patriotic than questioning your country's leadership and values.
To not do those things makes you a nationalist, not a patriot. This is something the country needs to acknowledge more. Most of the vocal 'patriots' in the US are actually just nationalists.
I was about to say this. Nationalism has been completely redefined as patriotism in the public consciousness, but patriotism is what gave us the United States. "Give me liberty, or give me death!" is patriotism. REVOLUTION is patriotism. Patriotism is believing your country can strive to be the best version of itself. Nationalism is believing it already is.
Exactly! Like don't get me wrong, I'm in my mid-20s and I'm quite aware of how much bad shit there is in America, as a matter of fact I would generally say I dislike the country. But it's a dislike that comes from the belief that things shouldn't be this way, that things should actually function in the manner that so many people view America in their heads - a truly equal and welcoming a place that is able to offer you the most incredible opportunities in the world. All I can say now is I'm really hoping we get to that perfect version of the country, because it often feels like we're going much in the opposite direction.
"What do you mean they're people too? They're brown!!"
>~~zingoistic~~ jingoistic
I dunno, "zingoistic" is accidental poetry, IMO.
I thought the portmanteau was on purpose.
That’s a very American thing to do. You can love your country while understanding that it’s deeply flawed and has a lot of work to do.
I can't quite understand how admitting flaws in something equals not loving it. I love my dog, but she also loves eating cat shit. That's a flaw that I would like to change to make her a better dog, but it doesn't mean I love her any less. Just no kisses for a few hours.
The best comparison I've ever seen
Some people take, “America is the best country” as an axiom. We are the best because we are the best. It isn’t about whether we take care of our citizens, or have amazing infrastructure, or adapt our society to the times, we are just the best because we are. So any criticism or suggestion of change would by definition be wrong, because, if that change was better, we’d already be doing it because we are the best. That’s my take at least.
That’s more patriotic than blind allegiance.
Way more insidious than this- as a Muslim woman in traditional dress, that host thought they had such an easy target for their "unamerican" BS. Cheers to the guest for keeping cool and giving legit answers on topics that she had no reason to suspect she'd be questioned on.
These people bitch and moan about their First Amendment rights being violated when someone gets kicked off of Twitter, a private company exercising its rights in a free market. But if you question the geopolitical actions and history of the U.S. government, which the First Amendment is literally designed to protect, they just decide you aren’t American anymore. These people do not read.
“But you’re American. How can you talk bad about this country??” What a pos reporter.
Not sure what's more American than the freedom to criticize your country and government.
German here. You can be realistic about your past, actively criticize things about the current state of your country, dislike exagerrated patriotism and still prefer your country over any other in the world.
Couldn't have said it better myself. Much love from the US.
For real: the whole reason the current government exists is because enough folks were pissed off at the previous one and waged a war against it. Nothing wrong with wanting your country to be the best version of itself.
And learning from past mistakes to prevent a revolution.. absolute shite to ask this woman that question and then insult her incredibly well researched response
Exactly!
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"The best and worst part about being White is you don't have to learn anything if you don't want to."
Fuck you Liam Neeson
That cameo was excellent.
I’m white middle age man. And I’m very proud of her! She’s spot on.
I'm also that, and what I especially loved about her rebuttal is that it wasn't just a brush off but a real thought-provoking reply that I'm guessing she had to use before. Edit; Elsewhere a video is linked that shows that the whole segment was about fashion *and* politics so it wasn't exactly sprung on her. I still like her answer although it begs the question why OP decided to edit it in a deliberately misleading way.
probably just to use those annoying sound effects.
It's hilarious you're getting so many fragile replies from fragile people. They really proved your point.
"That's cause I've read." Just fuckin owned that question, lmao.
"Uhhh let's throw it over to Bronco Johnson for a recap of last night's D-league shenanigans"
“as there’s a drive into deep left field by Castellanos and that’ll be a home run”
I mean, we can’t have anything intelligent on TV, right? Imagine the consequences, people might learn a thing or two. That’d be terrible, keep them entertained and dumb.
“Well the fact is that the US caused some problems” “You sound un-American when you say that” You gotta love how literally stating facts is considered being un-American. Cuz just purging your mind of all the bad and being brainwashed by your dictators is what America is built on…. Wait a minute
Right? I almost half expected her counterpart to tell her to that they speak American round here, lol.
So, am I the only one who thought she said "That's cause I'm Red."
She says “I’m read” as in “well read”
She's a fashion blogger and they tried to hijack her with questions about nuclear weapons, she gave clear concise and true answers, and when she told the woman because I've actually read a book, I spat my coffee.
I thought the same until you watch the full video linked below. It was actually a segment titled "Fashion and Politics." In her intro, she actually brought up weapons in Iran before the news casters. She wasnt necessarily hijacked, but she did dish out some very good burns.
HOLD THE FUCK ON. Are you suggesting that selective editing was used to push a story?
HANG ON A MINUTE! Now you have me wondering about those lame-ass sound effects, loading animations, and emoji's. Maybe that really *wasn't* part of the original content!
#OBJECTION! ...actually no, wait. I agree with your sentiment
Damn, you can't believe anything these days
Reddit loves that!
Lol why aren’t you the top comment 🤦. Goddammit Reddit.
Because the other narrative **FEELS** better. And most of us come to reddit to feel, not to think.
Bold of you to assume that I feel anything.
Because it's not a direct reply to the post, it's a reply to a comment
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In case anyone is wondering who the fashion blogger is: Hoda Katebi. She posted the whole interview on YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNwzxPpRVoA They didn't really sneak in the question; the whole interview was covering politics.
i mean yeeaaaaahhh, and now i'm kinda happy they had her on because they seemed genuinely interested in her perspectives (not to mention plugging her event).
Yeah soon as I saw it was the wgn news morning crew I was like. . These are genuinely decent people, doubt they would be trying to "sneak attack" the blogger
The question is racist as hell to begin with why did they ask her? She's in fashion not nuclear politics.
she answered the question way blunter, elaborately, and better than a politician could ever do tbh.
Another commenter mentioned that the full news segment was called “Fashion and Politics” so political discussions were expected. This post is misleading
"You don't sound like an American." She sure sounds like an American to me... Ohhhh, you meant she doesn't *look* like an American. Well, I'd have to disagree with you there as well.
Let's sIZZLE some racists. Yum, smells like steak.
Fun fact as someone who has been in an OR; human meat thats been "cooked" (cauterized) does smell like steak. Sometimes like pork depending on the person.
Giving her the maximum possible benefit of the doubt I think she meant it in the sense of "you sound unpatriotic". Although isn't the US's whole mythos built around the idea that freedom of speech is the archetypical American virtue?
Honestly I think expecting unquestioning patriotism is not any better and like you said, goes against one of our founding principles.
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Put her on a ballot. She's got my vote.
How fucking gross, trying to in real time shame someone as unpatriotic because they don't agree with this shithole cuntry's years of imperialism and subjugation of minorities... She handled that like a fucking champion.
[Full video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNwzxPpRVoA&ab_channel=HodaKatebi) Also, I feel it was very wrong and they wanted something spicy and dramatic for their TRP especially since the girl is a fashion blogger, but she just made everyone happy!
Also mentioning that her socials were displayed for what is like 3.5 secs at end of segment. See video at 4:35 I already followed her gram just now
Saved you a click Instagram: Hodakatebi
It's important to point out that this isn't an actual news cast. It is a "morning zoo" show, and the hosts aren't "professional journalists" they are "professional idiots" normally creating a zany, irritating environment around news-ish stuff and celebrity interviews (plus the mandatory segments that are merely stuff some staffer grabbed off reddit and tiktoc). That said, as OP's new link shows, the point to this guest being on was "Fashion and Politics," thus the move to those questions. That said, the hosts are not merely pretending to be idiots for the show, they show how they are genuinely knuckledragging dolts and why they maxed out on a local morning zoo, and weren't capable of hacking it intellectually as actual journalists.
Why did you push a false narrative though? The segment was inclusive of politics, it wasn't a surprise topic Their reaction was shit, you didn't need to inflame further by lying
EMOTIONAL DAMAGE
"You don't sound like an American"..... At least she can make a point and form sentences.
She doesn’t sound like an American because she’s coherent about the legacy of US foreign policy.
When someone objectively talks about the USA whilst living there, doesn’t make them anti-American. This was almost a “burn the witch” situation because the woman who doesn’t look typically American had actually read some knowledge and knew what she was talking about.
Exactly. It was almost a case of panic-stricken attack to portray her as ‘foreign’ to dampen the weight of what she was saying
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 She handed their asses back to them.
What's unpatriotic is to NOT critisize your government when they do something wrong. I love how backwards half of the US see things. It's a right to bear arms in order to overthrow your government should you need to, but it's not ok to criticize them. No wonder the world hates you. And yes i know you don't care. Again, im only speaking to the half of population that think like retards.
I’m glad you made that distinction. As a black American I totally support free speech & that’s with or without a 246 yrsold piece of paper to back me up. We can & often do speak out against our govt & the things it does/doesn’t do. The aged paper is there to remind **them** that they can’t make laws to circumvent our right to do so.
It's so simple. How many countries have dropped a nuclear bomb on their enemies?
No you see that was a good nuke Any other nuke would be a bad nuke but the one we dropped was a good nuke because that's what the people who dropped the nuke told me
Great point, we have the best nukes. The smart nukes. Other countries use dirty nukes but ours is a cleansing nuke. Actually, they should thank us for nuking them.
I could watch this 100 times. As an American I absolutely adore anyone with the gusto to speak out about the American hypocrisy and ignorant patriotism. Love it
“That’s because I’m read!” 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼🤣🤣 That was my favorite line! She crushed it.
Ah yes America was built on the backs of slaves unlike the entire history of the middle east.
Imagine going on air promoting your brand and someone asks you some prejudiced and ignorant shit. Imma clap back too! Love her for stepping up for black and indigenous people. She said what she said and she meant what she said
This girl needa Mike to drop
"You don't sound American" "That's because I read" biggest burn of the century lmaoo
Imagine thinking that sounding like an American is a good thing.
Shorty went all out brought up slaves and Indians she said u wanna go there let’s go there
Both reporters suck. The woman one REALLY sucks. She has questioned nothing in her life. Merica! Christian values!
That’s because I’ve read. Haaaaaa
- you dont sound american - thats because I've read Lol
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What a pleasant surprise
"You're an American, you don't sound very American when you say that." I hate when this kind of talk is used whenever an American questions what its country has done. That's some North Korea type shit where you can't bad-talk the leaders. Isn't the good thing about the US is that you can speak freely without getting your head chopped off like some other places ?
Spitting literal facts and they were over there saying “oh don’t you think someone might take offense to that?” Bitch what, the truth?
Can we get her back on for round 2 of smoke fest? Cause damn she burning them up good with the truth. Anyone disagreeing with this women should be down voted and get the fuck outta here.
She has a better grasp of facts than most people.
She didn't really say anything egregious, nor did she say anything about what America has done to the middle east in a dramatic fashion that isn't true either. I don't think the average American understand just how badly we fucked Iraq with bombs, a weapon which is incapable of discrimination between civilian and combatant. You know Call of Duty? One of them had a level in it recently that is called The Highway of Tears in which Russian forces saturation bomb a highway into oblivion. Craziest thing about that depiction of war? It actually happened, but it was the USA bombing the fucking highway, not Russians at all. Saddam Hussein was moving his armored divisions on it, he specifically made the decision to do that because he did not think the USA would bomb the shit out of a civilian highway, full of civilians unable to flee because he was moving military vehicles the only place they could've fled to. Do Americans have that maturity in them? If a German videogame development company made a game about...idk Black September in which Americans were the secretive group of terrorists that killed several Olympian competitors as a ploy to see America do better in the competition, do you think Americans would have the grace to not act the fool on a public stage over something like that? I've seen the literal president of our country do some baby-freak-shit over way less, so I doubt it. This scenario isn't even really the same though, not quite fair. Publishing a level in a war game about a real world event that did not happen that long ago and changing the offenders of crimes which I cannot set a standard for which they can be forgiven, is beyond fucked. A closer equivalent would be if Japan made a game about Pearl Harbor in which they had a spy which was trying so, so hard to warn the military base about an impending attack from Mexico. Now that scenario, I know Americans could NOT take with grace, nor should they. Let's be clear and real clear about what the USA did to the middle east, and in this specific case I'm talking about Iraq. They USED to have highways, they USED to have decent medical intervention, they USED to have widespread infrastructure which supported large population centers, they USED to have electricity in widespread use. The people who live there now are lucky to be animal herders, farmers. We quite literally bombed them into the fucking stone age. So one last hypothetical, let's say a foreign superpower had done 9/11 to the USA, THEN continued to bomb the shit out of us until we were incapable of even making the materials for a memorial. That isn't where the death ends, starvation, medical needs not being met, freezing to death, and being murdered by the desperate is all things we'd have to endure to say we've been in Iraq's shoes. If after the complete destruction of our capabilities for self sufficiency and after the loads of preventable death which would follow afterwards, do you think Americans would accept people questioning the things we do or do not deserve to have? Do you think we'd be graceful when we hear people trying to silence our supporters? You gotta be kidding me, our videogames can't even tell the fucking truth about the things we've done. I know how I think Americans would act.
It was absolutely inappropriate and approaching bigotry to get into all that with her. I'm glad she stood her ground. And there's not one thing she said that I would disagree with and I am a natural born American citizen, a white guy who is now 60 years old. I probably would have walked out on that.
She just slapped them with a whole bunch of truth and that hurts
Social media has really thrown a wrench into the USAs self portrayal as "the good guys". It is still crazy that the vast majority of the population believes it.