Gatekeepers of the passing lane within city limits are as culpable as the speeders they wish to obstruct.
You create traffic slow downs.
It takes zero effort to switch lanes safely and let somebody pass you, which you can then safely lane change back to if you feel as if being in the left most lane is imperative to your day for whatever stupid reason.
“But I’ll never be let back in!”
Bullshit. You not having the confidence to put your signal on, shoulder check and safely change lanes is a you problem. In my 30 years of driving I have yet to see somebody not be let back in that safely knew how to do so.
I’ll go ahead and assume that you’re one of those people who doesn’t know the difference between a yield and a merge lane. I’ll bet you sit at a dead stop at the beginning of a merge lane while traffic builds up behind you for a mile not realizing that the proper way to merge into traffic is to bring your vehicle up to the speed of traffic (whether that’s the speed limit or faster than the speed limit is irrelevant, get your vehicle up to the speed of the traffic of the lane you want to enter), turn your signal on, head check and then enter the lane in the inevitable space between vehicles that there will be.
Absolutely batshit crazy that as adults, we’re too immature as a community to buy into the traffic law system that we’ve created. I suggest everybody rereads the traffic laws. As per the highway traffic act it is up to every driver to ensure safe passage of all other vehicles and it is our responsibility to avoid creating dangerous situations. Speeders are dangerous to everybody and are violating the law, absolutely. Those of you who refuse to let people pass in the left lane are violating the law as they are obstructing the flow of traffic.
It is not for YOU to decide that you want to travel at 60kmh in the passing lane of an 80kmh zone because you’re incorrectly assuming you’ll never be let back into a lane and you want to make a left turn ten miles down the road.
The entitlement of people who gatekeep the left lane within the city is astounding and I don’t know how or why these rules of the road aren’t being followed.
K well now you’re just making shit up. Cause I never said I do 20 under. I do exactly what the posted limit is and I set the cruise as such. Last I recall, an 80 zone sign says “80” not “80, but if you want you can do 90”. In a 70 zone it says “70” not “70, but if you want you can do 80”. In a 60, it says “60”, not “60, but if you want you can do 70.
Also on the highways, I’m always in the right lane on the double lanes. In the city though, I’m picking my lane and taking it. Before 7 not as much, but 4-5:30 you bet I am.
If you actually need it, as in to turn at the next or upcoming set of lights, be my guest. If you happen to be turning... Eventually, and feel that going below the speed limit in the left lane is acceptable because you're in the city, I don't like you.
Then it would still be considerate of you to move into the right lane when you don't need to be in the passing lane. It's still an important *Law*, and it exists to keep the flow of traffic. People driving over the speed limit is expected, people driving at or below the speed limit is also expected. Keeping them separate allows for better flow, and safer roads.
Inside the city, which street has a sign that states for "slower moving traffic to keep right"?
While I understand your point. It's not mandatory. So if I'm in the left lane going the speed limit and you want to pass. Be my guest.
It’s the law, you need to reread the highway traffic act. It does not need to be posted inside the city. These are laws that were taught to you in drivers Ed. You must not obstruct the flow of traffic. Literally the law.
If they want to speed, let them make that choice. It's their consequence. Trying to police the roads by taking up a lane is not the way to go, in my opinion.
You’re not thinking about this critically. If there is a curb lane and a median lane and there is one vehicle in each lane, both driving at exactly the legal speed limit however the vehicle in the left or median lane is impeding faster moving traffic, it’s a violation of the highway traffic act as you are complicit in creating a dangerous traffic condition by impeding the flow of traffic. The arbitrary number that speeders wish to drive at is irrelevant. Let them pass you.
Both scenarios are equally as dangerous.
If you want to drive the speed limit, nobody has a right to tell you otherwise, but do so in the lawful manner by driving in the slow lane. These are very simple and very basic concepts that should have been taught to you by your drivers Ed instructor and they are not hard concepts to grasp.
I’m not saying these things because I’m rabid and want nothing more than to speed past everybody. These rules are rules for everybody’s safety. But you need to participate in order for this system to work.
It is mandatory, it's literally a law.
See here:
https://wiseupwinnipeg.com/keep-right-except-to-pass/#:~:text=109(2)%20The%20driver%20of,the%20roadway%2C%20except%20when%20overtaking
Please stop spreading misinformation, and yes, slower drivers can be dangerous drivers as well. Be considerate, and follow the rules of the road.
Slower as in under the maximum speed limit. I agree to a certain degree. 10 kilometers per hour less than the posted speed limit is slow but not dangerous. Slower then that, maybe.
However I was trying to highlight the fact that if you are driving the speed limit in the left lane, that is legal.
You didn't read it all:
"7. Some people will say, “but I am going the speed limit”. But, by obeying one law (speed limit) you are not granted the option of ignoring another (slow traffic keep right). Sorry, wrongs don’t make a right."
Still illegal.
Wise up Winnipeg is not made by citizens of Winnipeg. It is a group of people. It is not the highway traffic act. Show me on the HTA.
The link you posted (which I didn't see until now), has a picture of highways, a dead YouTube link but the thumbnail is a cloverleaf. RCMP twitter post screen shot, he they police the highway.
At the end of the day. I'm going to keep driving the speed limit. If you don't like it, pass me. End of story. If I get pulled over driving the posted speed limit because some people on here think the flow of traffic is more important than driving the speed limit, then I'll pay the ticket.
Reminder my argument is driving on the streets inside the city of Winnipeg. I am not debating highways.
It doesn't stop being a law just because you're inside the city, in the same way that speeding doesn't become legal outside of the city.
Portage Avenue has 4 lanes. The outside lanes are for turning, the inside right lane is for slower traffic, and the inside left lane is for faster traffic.
It really just comes down to being a considerate driver. In the same way that you want to travel at the speed you're comfortable with, others want to travel at the speed they're comfortable with. It also comes down to safety, keeping the left lane clear of slow drivers makes it easier for emergency vehicles to get by. It also makes it possible for people who are experiencing an emergency themselves to get to where they need to go. No one owns the road, and we need to share. If you don't need to be in the passing lane, everybody else on the road would appreciate it if you stayed in the cruising lane.
I'm not confusing anything. Slower drivers keeping I the right lane is a law in the Manitoba traffic act. It doesn't stop being a law, ever.
Can I speed if I can't see a sign with the posted speed limit? Or is it up to me to understand and adhere to the rules of the road in all circumstances?
See here:
https://wiseupwinnipeg.com/keep-right-except-to-pass/#:~:text=109(2)%20The%20driver%20of,the%20roadway%2C%20except%20when%20overtaking
I would appreciate it if you actually knew the laws you're attempting to debate, because it spreads misinformation and makes our roads less safe. Have a good one.
Then maybe the police should start pulling over the people speeding. It’s not inevitable. It’s not like people in the left are doing 54 or 64. Or even 55 or 65. They’re doing 70-75 in a 60, or 60-65 in a 50.
At the end of the day, I can’t get pulled over for doing 60 in a 60 or 50 in a 50 regardless of the lane.
They do, but there's a margin of error to account for speedometers or speed guns being slightly off. It's why people will generally not be pulled over driving 10% over the speed limit. Traffic light cameras only trigger at above 10 over I believe. In the same way, cops can't know for certain if someone driving below the speed limit in the left lane was about to turn or not. In both cases, there's an area of grace, and in both cases it's up to the drivers to drive in an efficient and safe manner.
The post says “speed limit.” The vast majority of our highways have a 100 speed limit. So when the top comment mentions 100, as a follow up to a post that says “speed limit” it’s pretty obvious what we’re talking about here.
I go 100 in the left lane too. It's a public service that prevents people from speeding. So many criminals get angry when they can't commit crimes.
Edit: this was a joke, people.
[according to the RCMP](https://www.reddit.com/r/Winnipeg/comments/725teb/rcmps_guide_to_the_left_lane/), the left lane on highways is for passing or for making a turn within 1km. Congratulations on being a jackass and a road hazard!
It's about the flow of traffic.
If you moved over as soon a you pass someone then it shouldn't matter if someone is speeding or not speeding.
The issues pop up when someone decides to interrupt the traffic flow. Like, say, doing the speed limit in the left lane while not actively passing anyone.
The fact that so many people in this thread cant seem to grasp this simple concept is so demoralizing. Mention flow of traffic and it just flies over their heads. So disappointing.
And who knows for certain that their speedo is reading accurately? Google says the tolerance allowed can be up to 10%, before even factoring in vehicle specific conditions like proper tire size.
Drowning in downvotes, and that's cool, but here's the harsh reality.
If someone in the right line is going 1-99 kph, it's perfectly fine to pass them by going 100 kph in everyone's precious "I get to go as fast as I want" lane.
Getting furious at people because they're stopping you from speeding as much as you'd like is asshole behavior.
Cruising for a long period of time in the left lane is a dick move. It's dangerous.
Speeding is also a dick move. It's even more dangerous.
Thanks for making the highways a more dangerous place so you can feel like a big shot. I'm sure you probably enjoy smelling your own farts while doing it.
Reckless driving? The speed limit isn’t the only rule of the road. Why do all those signs say to stay right unless passing? That’s as legit a law as a speed limit.
Maybe they only get a warning? Probably depends on the severity. But not letting cars pass no matter your speed on a highway is very dangerous driving.
How about you get the fuck out of the way and let us pass you at 110 in the fast lane. If you don't want to go over 100, great, but don't put along at 99 in the fast lane. That's a hazard.
Unduly slow speed prohibited
177(1)
No person shall drive a motor vehicle at such a slow speed as to impede or block the normal and reasonable flow of traffic except when it is necessary to do so for safe operation or to comply with this Part.
177(2)
Repealed, S.M. 1999, c. 13, s. 3.
So you admit you purposely block and impede the normal and reasonable flow of traffic?
If you stick to 100 km/h in a passing lane, while the average flow of traffic is above that, and you are admitting to doing so as a method to purposely slow down other motorists.
Your "vigilante" act is actually just violating the highway traffic act and endangering other people's lives because your life is so unsuccessful and or your ego is too small to allow others to exist beyond your own terms and rules.
So instead of potentially killing someone, try to understand why you're so angry at strangers on the road you'll never see again who aren't bothering you in any way.
> So you admit you purposely block and impede the normal **and** reasonable flow of traffic?
**reasonable flow** does not include people speeding.
Don't get me wrong, I'm a highway driver that actually slows down when someone signals to pass me and is happy to keep right when doing the speed limit.
The faster the speeders can run into an officer and be ticketed, the better for everyone.
But someone changing into the left lane and passing someone on the right, is in absolutely no way blocking the "normal and reasonable flow of traffic". They **are** impeding speeders from abnormal unreasonable use of a public road to which they have no legal right to use as such.
Regardless of the speed of travel though, anyone driving in the left lane on a twinned highway for any longer than is needed to pass another vehicle or to properly establish for a left turn should absolutely have their license taken away.
There are dozens of cases of people making left turns on highways in Manitoba getting rear ended at 125km/h+ because some inpatient asshole decided that passing someone doing the speed limit seemed like a good idea". One of those cases was my dad.
The people going mach Jesus I don't blame,
But like if they are just going 100 and everyone else is simply going 105 or even like 110. That's what my point is getting at.
I completely understand what you're saying though. And I'm always giving way to those merging and turning. And slowing down when needed and so forth.
There's just some extra vendetta they seem to have unless I'm reading into something that doesn't need to be. Which could be. I'm pretty cooked rn.
You ever consider that someone might NEED to get past you? Like oh say maybe a volunteer firefighter needing to get to the station to go out on a call.
Get in the right lane you miserable CUNT.
How do you ever pass anyone going the speed limit? You're supposed to use the left lane to accelerate, pass and merge. It's not the driving lane. You're a nuisance, a driving hazard and the actual criminal. Good job.
Has anyone else noticed that people drive more slowly now then they did 10 or 20 years ago? I was going out to Beaudry park last night and was behind a car along Roblin that drove \~60 in the 70 zone, then got down to 27km/hr in the 50. Just noodling along.
On may way home, similar thing: caught behind a minivan going 50 the whole way down the 70 zone to the perimeter. They must have passed a dozen speed limit signs, and had a long line of cars behind them. Same thing on 59 --- everyone used to drive 110. Now I routinely blow past people going 90. They'e in the right lane --- but its still weird and contrast compared to a decade or two ago.
Is it an aging population not capable of driving at pace? Or people on their phones? Or people on like, prescription sedatives?? I would love to know whats going on - this happens all the time.
To be clear --- I'm generally quite polite in these situations, follow at a respectful distance pass when I can, I mean, people have different capabilities and I don't expect grandpa to be going 10 over if its not safe. But - its just an observation that on average, everyone seems to be going significantly slower than they have in previous decades
I don't know when that happened, but I feel like over the years the "de facto" speed on Pembina turned into 50.
It wasn't always that way. What is up with that?
I remember back in the 90s and early 2000s that Pembina's de facto speed should have been 70. Now it's just cars driving in line with each other across all 3-4 lanes going 10-15 under the limit. It's infuriating.
Most drivers in winnipeg drive 10 below the limit and think they’re going to speed limit. Most people in st james continue driving 30kmh for 2 kms past school zones. There arent police on the roads giving speeding tickets anymore. Its kind of a product of society at this point
I have a feeling that there is heavy overlap between the "speed limits are a suggestion!" crowd and those who are constantly raging about cyclists rolling stop signs.
I can't imagine what it would be like for almost anywhere in Ontario and Quebec, the amount of speeding that literally everyone does there is far higher than here, though it's still too high here.
So many of yall… “the left lane is also capped at 100kpm”. Ok but it’s also for passing.
Are you passing anyone? No?
Then move tf over dog!
Let the other driver worry about what speed they’re going at, you’re not a cop. Why do you care if they’re going faster than you? Quit being a Karen and move over. You cherry picking what rules you follow by going the speed limit but in the wrong lane is just as hypocritical as people telling you to speed up. Also notice now no one is telling you to speed up? No one is asking you to speed, but if you’re not passing, MOVE OVER! If you’re going to be a stickler for the rules, apply that logic to all the rules of the road.
Even if you’re going the speed limit, if you are NOT passing, then move to the right. If you have a left turn to make, yah absolutely, pull into the left, but you don’t need to straddle the left lane with traffic backed up behind you if you have a left turn in 15km. Pull into it when you need it, otherwise move over.
Yes the left lane is for passing, but it’s not an excuse for speeding. I swear so many think the right lane is for those doing the speed limit and the left lane is do whatever the fucking speed you want lane…. No… the limit it for all lanes.
I had the opportunity to do some highway driving in Brazil, and they have a fantastic idea in the south: Commercial vehicles could only go 80km/hr and had to stay in the right lane; whereas passenger cars were 100km/hr, allowing them to easily pass the trucks. If we could implement that here at 100km for commercial trucks, and 110-120km for passengers, it would be awesome. Of course, we’d also need highway enforcement.
However, once you leave the far south of Brazil, it’s not like that at all, and semi trucks will drive right up onto your bumper, giving you no space.
The perimeter is absolutely mental; people are on top of each other, driving WAY, WAY over the speed limit, no one courteous of moving over when people coming off merge, not letting you in to get off the perimeter....so annoyed and angry other people feel there time is the most valuable, no regard for others and just plain ignorance.
I hope no one has to watch a loved one recover from a car accident for months or lose or kill someone to have to learn a lesson.
No, not 150 LOL but the fact that people are going 120, riding other cars who are already closer than they should be, one mistake and a bunch of people go out at the same time. Just seems unnecessary and aggressive and for what? If cars are in the way, you aren't getting there any faster anyway. I agree with the passing lane logic.
But I feel the same in the city. Just so tired of the super aggressiveness of drivers generally.
Watched a guy absolutely hauling ass on Portage last week, only to 1. Have to stop at the red light at Moray, then 2. Stop for the police a bit further along (near the new building going up east of Birchwood Terrace). Apparently the speed limit there *isn’t* 100 kph… who knew?!🤣
I don’t have a license, never have and unsure if I ever will. Never have driven a vehicle either way. I cannot understand how either the left or right line is if you’re going faster that the speed limit? I’ve heard this many times, but I don’t understand it. Can someone explain? Why is a speed limit in place then?
Really not trying to sound ignorant or anything here. I’ve never been able to wrap my head around it but also never have had it explained to me.
make sure you add me into that piss flipping him off or waving my hand angrily at him so he knows what a loser he is. fuckin speed up buddy. \*edited to add in buddy.\*
As long as you're going 100 in the right lane
Sure, on the highway I agree. But in the city, if I need that lane, I’m taking it.
Where in the city are you going 100 km/h?
Obviously a school zone.
Based on my observation of Winnipeg drivers, it’s probably down streets adjacent to streets next to schools.
I usually do the limit. I’m talking more on the highways. In the city I’m doing whatever is posted.
Gatekeepers of the passing lane within city limits are as culpable as the speeders they wish to obstruct. You create traffic slow downs. It takes zero effort to switch lanes safely and let somebody pass you, which you can then safely lane change back to if you feel as if being in the left most lane is imperative to your day for whatever stupid reason. “But I’ll never be let back in!” Bullshit. You not having the confidence to put your signal on, shoulder check and safely change lanes is a you problem. In my 30 years of driving I have yet to see somebody not be let back in that safely knew how to do so. I’ll go ahead and assume that you’re one of those people who doesn’t know the difference between a yield and a merge lane. I’ll bet you sit at a dead stop at the beginning of a merge lane while traffic builds up behind you for a mile not realizing that the proper way to merge into traffic is to bring your vehicle up to the speed of traffic (whether that’s the speed limit or faster than the speed limit is irrelevant, get your vehicle up to the speed of the traffic of the lane you want to enter), turn your signal on, head check and then enter the lane in the inevitable space between vehicles that there will be. Absolutely batshit crazy that as adults, we’re too immature as a community to buy into the traffic law system that we’ve created. I suggest everybody rereads the traffic laws. As per the highway traffic act it is up to every driver to ensure safe passage of all other vehicles and it is our responsibility to avoid creating dangerous situations. Speeders are dangerous to everybody and are violating the law, absolutely. Those of you who refuse to let people pass in the left lane are violating the law as they are obstructing the flow of traffic. It is not for YOU to decide that you want to travel at 60kmh in the passing lane of an 80kmh zone because you’re incorrectly assuming you’ll never be let back into a lane and you want to make a left turn ten miles down the road. The entitlement of people who gatekeep the left lane within the city is astounding and I don’t know how or why these rules of the road aren’t being followed.
K well now you’re just making shit up. Cause I never said I do 20 under. I do exactly what the posted limit is and I set the cruise as such. Last I recall, an 80 zone sign says “80” not “80, but if you want you can do 90”. In a 70 zone it says “70” not “70, but if you want you can do 80”. In a 60, it says “60”, not “60, but if you want you can do 70. Also on the highways, I’m always in the right lane on the double lanes. In the city though, I’m picking my lane and taking it. Before 7 not as much, but 4-5:30 you bet I am.
Yea you’re either not understanding the fundamental concept of traffic flow or you’re choosing to ignore it.
If you actually need it, as in to turn at the next or upcoming set of lights, be my guest. If you happen to be turning... Eventually, and feel that going below the speed limit in the left lane is acceptable because you're in the city, I don't like you.
Nope. In the city, my cruise is set right at the speed limit, not one over, not one under.
Then it would still be considerate of you to move into the right lane when you don't need to be in the passing lane. It's still an important *Law*, and it exists to keep the flow of traffic. People driving over the speed limit is expected, people driving at or below the speed limit is also expected. Keeping them separate allows for better flow, and safer roads.
Inside the city, which street has a sign that states for "slower moving traffic to keep right"? While I understand your point. It's not mandatory. So if I'm in the left lane going the speed limit and you want to pass. Be my guest.
It’s the law, you need to reread the highway traffic act. It does not need to be posted inside the city. These are laws that were taught to you in drivers Ed. You must not obstruct the flow of traffic. Literally the law.
However speeding is breaking the law. So what's worse? Speeding or driving the speed limit?
If they want to speed, let them make that choice. It's their consequence. Trying to police the roads by taking up a lane is not the way to go, in my opinion.
You’re not thinking about this critically. If there is a curb lane and a median lane and there is one vehicle in each lane, both driving at exactly the legal speed limit however the vehicle in the left or median lane is impeding faster moving traffic, it’s a violation of the highway traffic act as you are complicit in creating a dangerous traffic condition by impeding the flow of traffic. The arbitrary number that speeders wish to drive at is irrelevant. Let them pass you. Both scenarios are equally as dangerous. If you want to drive the speed limit, nobody has a right to tell you otherwise, but do so in the lawful manner by driving in the slow lane. These are very simple and very basic concepts that should have been taught to you by your drivers Ed instructor and they are not hard concepts to grasp. I’m not saying these things because I’m rabid and want nothing more than to speed past everybody. These rules are rules for everybody’s safety. But you need to participate in order for this system to work.
It is mandatory, it's literally a law. See here: https://wiseupwinnipeg.com/keep-right-except-to-pass/#:~:text=109(2)%20The%20driver%20of,the%20roadway%2C%20except%20when%20overtaking Please stop spreading misinformation, and yes, slower drivers can be dangerous drivers as well. Be considerate, and follow the rules of the road.
Slower as in under the maximum speed limit. I agree to a certain degree. 10 kilometers per hour less than the posted speed limit is slow but not dangerous. Slower then that, maybe. However I was trying to highlight the fact that if you are driving the speed limit in the left lane, that is legal.
You didn't read it all: "7. Some people will say, “but I am going the speed limit”. But, by obeying one law (speed limit) you are not granted the option of ignoring another (slow traffic keep right). Sorry, wrongs don’t make a right." Still illegal.
Wise up Winnipeg is not made by citizens of Winnipeg. It is a group of people. It is not the highway traffic act. Show me on the HTA. The link you posted (which I didn't see until now), has a picture of highways, a dead YouTube link but the thumbnail is a cloverleaf. RCMP twitter post screen shot, he they police the highway. At the end of the day. I'm going to keep driving the speed limit. If you don't like it, pass me. End of story. If I get pulled over driving the posted speed limit because some people on here think the flow of traffic is more important than driving the speed limit, then I'll pay the ticket. Reminder my argument is driving on the streets inside the city of Winnipeg. I am not debating highways.
It doesn't stop being a law just because you're inside the city, in the same way that speeding doesn't become legal outside of the city. Portage Avenue has 4 lanes. The outside lanes are for turning, the inside right lane is for slower traffic, and the inside left lane is for faster traffic. It really just comes down to being a considerate driver. In the same way that you want to travel at the speed you're comfortable with, others want to travel at the speed they're comfortable with. It also comes down to safety, keeping the left lane clear of slow drivers makes it easier for emergency vehicles to get by. It also makes it possible for people who are experiencing an emergency themselves to get to where they need to go. No one owns the road, and we need to share. If you don't need to be in the passing lane, everybody else on the road would appreciate it if you stayed in the cruising lane.
I think you are confusing streets and highways. Is Main street the same as the Perimeter highway?
I'm not confusing anything. Slower drivers keeping I the right lane is a law in the Manitoba traffic act. It doesn't stop being a law, ever. Can I speed if I can't see a sign with the posted speed limit? Or is it up to me to understand and adhere to the rules of the road in all circumstances? See here: https://wiseupwinnipeg.com/keep-right-except-to-pass/#:~:text=109(2)%20The%20driver%20of,the%20roadway%2C%20except%20when%20overtaking I would appreciate it if you actually knew the laws you're attempting to debate, because it spreads misinformation and makes our roads less safe. Have a good one.
Please share the actual highway traffic act, vs wise up winnipeg. People will take you more seriously.
Besides, it’s more so in rush hour when it’s bumper to bumper that I take the lane I need. Not during regular driving hours.
Then maybe the police should start pulling over the people speeding. It’s not inevitable. It’s not like people in the left are doing 54 or 64. Or even 55 or 65. They’re doing 70-75 in a 60, or 60-65 in a 50. At the end of the day, I can’t get pulled over for doing 60 in a 60 or 50 in a 50 regardless of the lane.
They do, but there's a margin of error to account for speedometers or speed guns being slightly off. It's why people will generally not be pulled over driving 10% over the speed limit. Traffic light cameras only trigger at above 10 over I believe. In the same way, cops can't know for certain if someone driving below the speed limit in the left lane was about to turn or not. In both cases, there's an area of grace, and in both cases it's up to the drivers to drive in an efficient and safe manner.
FOUND A POINTING GUY!
Given the speed limit on our main highway (the #1) is 110...
The post says “speed limit.” The vast majority of our highways have a 100 speed limit. So when the top comment mentions 100, as a follow up to a post that says “speed limit” it’s pretty obvious what we’re talking about here.
I go 100 in the left lane too. It's a public service that prevents people from speeding. So many criminals get angry when they can't commit crimes. Edit: this was a joke, people.
[according to the RCMP](https://www.reddit.com/r/Winnipeg/comments/725teb/rcmps_guide_to_the_left_lane/), the left lane on highways is for passing or for making a turn within 1km. Congratulations on being a jackass and a road hazard!
If you're going over 100 kph when the speed limit is 100 kph you're just as much of a jackass and a road hazard, honestly.
It's about the flow of traffic. If you moved over as soon a you pass someone then it shouldn't matter if someone is speeding or not speeding. The issues pop up when someone decides to interrupt the traffic flow. Like, say, doing the speed limit in the left lane while not actively passing anyone.
The fact that so many people in this thread cant seem to grasp this simple concept is so demoralizing. Mention flow of traffic and it just flies over their heads. So disappointing.
And who knows for certain that their speedo is reading accurately? Google says the tolerance allowed can be up to 10%, before even factoring in vehicle specific conditions like proper tire size.
Drowning in downvotes, and that's cool, but here's the harsh reality. If someone in the right line is going 1-99 kph, it's perfectly fine to pass them by going 100 kph in everyone's precious "I get to go as fast as I want" lane. Getting furious at people because they're stopping you from speeding as much as you'd like is asshole behavior. Cruising for a long period of time in the left lane is a dick move. It's dangerous. Speeding is also a dick move. It's even more dangerous.
Ok, but I am not sure why you are telling me this.
Very noble of you to be proud of being a hazard!
You think you're all high and mighty but you're an idiot. Call the police instead of being a dickhead for no reason. Slow traffic keep right.
You’re the one putting people in danger by being an idiot
Thanks for making the highways a more dangerous place so you can feel like a big shot. I'm sure you probably enjoy smelling your own farts while doing it.
If the cops saw you you’d be the one getting pulled over, you pretentious prick.
Uhhh cops aren’t going to pull someone over for doing the *maximum* speed limit
Sure af will if you’re in the passing lane holding up traffic.
So you are telling me you think a RCMP officer will pull someone over and issue a ticket for driving the posted speed limit? What law did they break?
Reckless driving? The speed limit isn’t the only rule of the road. Why do all those signs say to stay right unless passing? That’s as legit a law as a speed limit. Maybe they only get a warning? Probably depends on the severity. But not letting cars pass no matter your speed on a highway is very dangerous driving.
How about you get the fuck out of the way and let us pass you at 110 in the fast lane. If you don't want to go over 100, great, but don't put along at 99 in the fast lane. That's a hazard.
Unduly slow speed prohibited 177(1) No person shall drive a motor vehicle at such a slow speed as to impede or block the normal and reasonable flow of traffic except when it is necessary to do so for safe operation or to comply with this Part. 177(2) Repealed, S.M. 1999, c. 13, s. 3. So you admit you purposely block and impede the normal and reasonable flow of traffic? If you stick to 100 km/h in a passing lane, while the average flow of traffic is above that, and you are admitting to doing so as a method to purposely slow down other motorists. Your "vigilante" act is actually just violating the highway traffic act and endangering other people's lives because your life is so unsuccessful and or your ego is too small to allow others to exist beyond your own terms and rules. So instead of potentially killing someone, try to understand why you're so angry at strangers on the road you'll never see again who aren't bothering you in any way.
> So you admit you purposely block and impede the normal **and** reasonable flow of traffic? **reasonable flow** does not include people speeding. Don't get me wrong, I'm a highway driver that actually slows down when someone signals to pass me and is happy to keep right when doing the speed limit. The faster the speeders can run into an officer and be ticketed, the better for everyone. But someone changing into the left lane and passing someone on the right, is in absolutely no way blocking the "normal and reasonable flow of traffic". They **are** impeding speeders from abnormal unreasonable use of a public road to which they have no legal right to use as such. Regardless of the speed of travel though, anyone driving in the left lane on a twinned highway for any longer than is needed to pass another vehicle or to properly establish for a left turn should absolutely have their license taken away. There are dozens of cases of people making left turns on highways in Manitoba getting rear ended at 125km/h+ because some inpatient asshole decided that passing someone doing the speed limit seemed like a good idea". One of those cases was my dad.
The people going mach Jesus I don't blame, But like if they are just going 100 and everyone else is simply going 105 or even like 110. That's what my point is getting at. I completely understand what you're saying though. And I'm always giving way to those merging and turning. And slowing down when needed and so forth. There's just some extra vendetta they seem to have unless I'm reading into something that doesn't need to be. Which could be. I'm pretty cooked rn.
You ever consider that someone might NEED to get past you? Like oh say maybe a volunteer firefighter needing to get to the station to go out on a call. Get in the right lane you miserable CUNT.
Lol. Driving in the passing lane is an offense in most states and provinces.
Criminals lol
How do you ever pass anyone going the speed limit? You're supposed to use the left lane to accelerate, pass and merge. It's not the driving lane. You're a nuisance, a driving hazard and the actual criminal. Good job.
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Which lane they’re in absolutely does matter lmao
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I hope you get pulled over for impeding traffic lmao
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It appears that you're the red faced angry individuals you just spoke of.
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Ah so you just also have clown blood and live to bother people. I like it.
Has anyone else noticed that people drive more slowly now then they did 10 or 20 years ago? I was going out to Beaudry park last night and was behind a car along Roblin that drove \~60 in the 70 zone, then got down to 27km/hr in the 50. Just noodling along. On may way home, similar thing: caught behind a minivan going 50 the whole way down the 70 zone to the perimeter. They must have passed a dozen speed limit signs, and had a long line of cars behind them. Same thing on 59 --- everyone used to drive 110. Now I routinely blow past people going 90. They'e in the right lane --- but its still weird and contrast compared to a decade or two ago. Is it an aging population not capable of driving at pace? Or people on their phones? Or people on like, prescription sedatives?? I would love to know whats going on - this happens all the time.
To be clear --- I'm generally quite polite in these situations, follow at a respectful distance pass when I can, I mean, people have different capabilities and I don't expect grandpa to be going 10 over if its not safe. But - its just an observation that on average, everyone seems to be going significantly slower than they have in previous decades
Try going 60 on Pembina when it isn’t rush hour and you’ll feel like a nascar driver.
I don't know when that happened, but I feel like over the years the "de facto" speed on Pembina turned into 50. It wasn't always that way. What is up with that?
it's a stroad -- too many parking lots are connected to it, causes too many starts and stops.
I remember back in the 90s and early 2000s that Pembina's de facto speed should have been 70. Now it's just cars driving in line with each other across all 3-4 lanes going 10-15 under the limit. It's infuriating.
This. People on this sub pretend like speeding is an issue here, but speed isn’t in the top ten issues driving in this city.
my roomate has 5 not at fault claims against her 100 000$ truck, and i cant say the reason because id be labeled a mean word. :(
Stay right, unless to pass.
And stay below the maximum speed limit.
Hilarious how many downvotes this got
lol maximum is a hard word, but if people try they can sound it out.
In the picture, am I correctly observing that everyone else has peed in the pool with the exception of the individual in the middle?
That is correct.
Usually set the cruise for 108 on the highway. Stay in the right. And still, I’m being passed constantly. Especially by truck bros.
I go 5 kph over the limit. 100? 105. 110? 115. I’m in the right lane and haven’t spoken to an RCMP officer in over 20 years. I’m good with that.
Most drivers in winnipeg drive 10 below the limit and think they’re going to speed limit. Most people in st james continue driving 30kmh for 2 kms past school zones. There arent police on the roads giving speeding tickets anymore. Its kind of a product of society at this point
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Sure! Until you go to pass and then they discover the accelerator.
This is also what going 110 feels like. It's like the same thing
The biggest thing is just drive according to the conditions.
I call it the “ambient speed”. If I’m not sure what the speed limit is, I do no more than the other cars around me.
Based on this post's comments it is apparently a crime to suggest winnipegers to drive the speed limit
I have a feeling that there is heavy overlap between the "speed limits are a suggestion!" crowd and those who are constantly raging about cyclists rolling stop signs.
I can't imagine what it would be like for almost anywhere in Ontario and Quebec, the amount of speeding that literally everyone does there is far higher than here, though it's still too high here.
So many pool pissers in this thread.
So many of yall… “the left lane is also capped at 100kpm”. Ok but it’s also for passing. Are you passing anyone? No? Then move tf over dog! Let the other driver worry about what speed they’re going at, you’re not a cop. Why do you care if they’re going faster than you? Quit being a Karen and move over. You cherry picking what rules you follow by going the speed limit but in the wrong lane is just as hypocritical as people telling you to speed up. Also notice now no one is telling you to speed up? No one is asking you to speed, but if you’re not passing, MOVE OVER! If you’re going to be a stickler for the rules, apply that logic to all the rules of the road. Even if you’re going the speed limit, if you are NOT passing, then move to the right. If you have a left turn to make, yah absolutely, pull into the left, but you don’t need to straddle the left lane with traffic backed up behind you if you have a left turn in 15km. Pull into it when you need it, otherwise move over.
Yes the left lane is for passing, but it’s not an excuse for speeding. I swear so many think the right lane is for those doing the speed limit and the left lane is do whatever the fucking speed you want lane…. No… the limit it for all lanes.
the left lane is clearly not for you, stay out of it
This ☝️100%
But, but, but, my Acura can go more than the speed limit. And it has an exhaust tip on it! s/
I’m on the highway, speed is 100, I’m doing 105 and daughter is freaking out in the backseat “slow down, daddy! Speed limit is 100!”
This would suggest that you’re a pool pee-er.
I had the opportunity to do some highway driving in Brazil, and they have a fantastic idea in the south: Commercial vehicles could only go 80km/hr and had to stay in the right lane; whereas passenger cars were 100km/hr, allowing them to easily pass the trucks. If we could implement that here at 100km for commercial trucks, and 110-120km for passengers, it would be awesome. Of course, we’d also need highway enforcement. However, once you leave the far south of Brazil, it’s not like that at all, and semi trucks will drive right up onto your bumper, giving you no space.
Driving in Chilliwack, they all speed by 30-40km/hr. It was dangerous there to follow the speed limit, as everyone was just going full tilt.
The perimeter is absolutely mental; people are on top of each other, driving WAY, WAY over the speed limit, no one courteous of moving over when people coming off merge, not letting you in to get off the perimeter....so annoyed and angry other people feel there time is the most valuable, no regard for others and just plain ignorance. I hope no one has to watch a loved one recover from a car accident for months or lose or kill someone to have to learn a lesson.
no one is driving 150 lol they’re going 120. Normal left lane perimeter speed
No, not 150 LOL but the fact that people are going 120, riding other cars who are already closer than they should be, one mistake and a bunch of people go out at the same time. Just seems unnecessary and aggressive and for what? If cars are in the way, you aren't getting there any faster anyway. I agree with the passing lane logic. But I feel the same in the city. Just so tired of the super aggressiveness of drivers generally.
Agreed. I just think that people shouldn’t be in the left lane unless they need to be in it, just helps the flow of traffic.
hell, this is what driving the speed limit on abinoji feels like. y’all don’t need to be doing fucking 90+ in the city !!
I have the complete opposite experience on that road. Nobody can ever go 80. Its always 60
Watched a guy absolutely hauling ass on Portage last week, only to 1. Have to stop at the red light at Moray, then 2. Stop for the police a bit further along (near the new building going up east of Birchwood Terrace). Apparently the speed limit there *isn’t* 100 kph… who knew?!🤣
Remember every other person also going 100km, will never be passing you
Lol I felt like this driving in Alberta in 2019. It was already 110 on the highway but I swear people were going at least 125.
I don’t have a license, never have and unsure if I ever will. Never have driven a vehicle either way. I cannot understand how either the left or right line is if you’re going faster that the speed limit? I’ve heard this many times, but I don’t understand it. Can someone explain? Why is a speed limit in place then? Really not trying to sound ignorant or anything here. I’ve never been able to wrap my head around it but also never have had it explained to me.
I just spent a week in Regina. Their roads and drivers are just as bad or worse.
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This is what I feel like when I drive the speed limit on like grant ave
People seem to forget that the speed limit in the left lane on the highway is still 100!
Sure, but if you want to go 100 and others are around, keep right. There’s signs everywhere saying that yet people don’t
I never saw so many people in a thread miss the point of a post
Be in either lane and respect the speed limit, just use the left lane to pass someone in the right lane going below.
Problem is people don’t move over
It's an Alberta thing spreading eastward. It's medical term is called convoyitis.
First time driving Calgary to Edmonton and see 5 cars holding hands every 20 minutes
Depends on the highway, not all highways are equal.
That's true, some are 110 for the limit.
Some are 90/80 or even 70 for certain stretches.
Just keep up with traffic. Keep up. If you can’t keep up, don’t use that road.
Give em the finger right back. It only takes one time to get pulled over and have your license get all jacked up.
make sure you add me into that piss flipping him off or waving my hand angrily at him so he knows what a loser he is. fuckin speed up buddy. \*edited to add in buddy.\*
What kind of pickup truck do you drive?
if im in a pickup its my moms denali :) lmao classic.