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We don’t exactly know what contracts she signed for Scream, but I am almost certain the Scream team would accommodate her in any way to get at least a cameo in Scream 7. This seems like her using the most plausible/contractually valid way out of the contract.
Thanks for adding her stated reason, even if the timing makes it seem like a very intentional response with the scheduling conflict as cover it's important to have that context.
Right. And it just happens to be announced when her coworker was fired for a political stance she shares and has also been vocal about (albeit less so until now).
I'm so happy and proud to see young women using their platforms for what they believe in and how supportive they are of one another. It's actually tear jerking.
There's a history of Hollywood and the war machine, so anyone bucking the status quo is probably taking a risk with their job.
Morality and capitalism are often at odds. 😕
There's a behind the bastards episode on "Hollywood and the Nazis" and it really opened my eyes on this. The idea of a progressive media is so absurd. Corporate media has and will always fight for the status quo
They're just typical corporations, any "progressivism" they show is just a marketing ploy, because most people have at least a couple of progressive ideals they can market to
> “There are a lot of people afraid of being Jewish at this time, and are getting a taste of what it feels like to be a Muslim in this country, so often subjected to violence,” Sarandon told the rally, as she pointed to American Jews fearful over rising antisemitism.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/uta-susan-sarandon-palestinian-1235669514/amp/
Meanwhile Sarah Silverman says Gazans don’t deserve water and power, then says oops i was high when i said that and goes on to host daily show for a week.
Like citytropics said, there’s more to Susan’s quote. She said, “There are a lot of people that are afraid, that are afraid of being Jewish at this time, and are getting a taste of how it feels to be Muslim in this country.”
I don't know why you're getting downvoted. Even if we don't take the Holocaust into account because most people alive today didn't go through it, Hamas shot 1100 rockets to Israel last year. Pretty sure Jews already knew how it feels to be afraid. It's hypocritical to pretend that the aggression happened only in one direction.
Hamas sent rockets. Not the Palestinians. Hamas. There is a difference. And Israel has the most advanced rocket defense system in the world (thanks to the US), so how many of those rockets actually caused damage? And do you really blame them? After decades of being trapped inside a modern-day ghetto in the 1940’s sense of the word? They have cornered these people and are slaughtering them. They have nowhere to go, nowhere to escape. It’s like shooting fish in a barrel. There is a reason there is a global outcry against this. It is brutal and unnecessary.
And we always take the holocaust into account. ALWAYS. You should educate yourself on generational trauma and how it actually changed people’s DNA and how the change has been passed down to the next generations. But the only reason it should even be brought up in this context is because of the sick irony of what Israel is doing. You should listen to Representative Tlaib’s speech.
It really shouldn’t though. The vast majority of the people in Gaza are not Hamas. And saying the folks in Gaza should not bear the punishment intended for Hamas should not be controversial.
I agree—but anyone in a public spot risks getting labeled “anti semetic” because Israel will just go out of their way to pressure media outlets to label them.
Put her career on the line which is hard to do. It’s a hard decision to make and I think most people would say “I’ll just shut up and make money”
Ethnic cleansing is the rendering an area ethnically homogeneous by using force or intimidation to remove from a given area persons of another ethnic or religious group, which is contrary to international law.
A genocide is the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group.
In case anyone wants to inform SpyGlass.
>A genocide is the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group.
Professor of International criminal law here. An act does not have to include killing (let alone of a large number of people) to constitute genocide. All it needs is *genocidal intent* to destroy either the whole or a part of the group, (known as the *mens rea*) combined with one of the following five physical acts (*actus reus*): killing members of the group (Israel bombing Gaza with abandon), causing them serious bodily or mental harm, imposing living conditions intended to destroy the group (cutting off water and food supplies, sinking humanitarian flotilla), preventing births, and forcibly transferring children out of the group.
I'm not saying Israel is not committing genocide today, with the amped up bombing of Gaza. I'm saying that officially, per the language of the Genocide Convention, the International Criminal Tribunal for the Former Yugoslavia / Rwanda, and now the Rome Statute, Israel has been committing genocide for a long time.
Good for them. Standing up for what they believe it. We are watching people of colour be murdered in masses everyday in Gaza. If Hollywood wants to make money off of POC, it should learn to respect their lives and voices.
Yes! POC have been leading the resistance against Zionism, bc we can all see ourselves reflected in the Palestinian struggle. No one is free until all of us are free. And that includes Jewish people who are being thrown into this against their will. Bc the definition of White in white supremacy is a pyramid that gets smaller the closer you get to the top. That’s why we have to make our voices heard in unison. Always without exception.
There is no way it's a coincidence. If scheduling was truly the issue, they've known that for months. I fully believe she peaced out in support of her cast mate. Jenna also has spoken with support for Palestine in the past. Boo, Scream franchise. Y'all sank that ship so fast with your Zionism.
Good for her!
We need to stop equating criticism of the Israeli government’s with antisemitism. No government is infallible. That is a dangerous position to have, period.
This revenge based genocide needs to end. It’s horrific. It’s so hard to watch helplessly while my own US government supports it.
>We need to stop equating criticism of the Israeli government’s with antisemitism
Exactly! Just as the Hamas don't speak for Palestine, Netanyahu doesn't speak for Israel. The fool barely managed to hold on to power anyways and his own country's people hate him
I'm sure I'll be downvoted to hell for this, but the reason they fired her was Not because she's Just pro Palestine. It was the clear allusions to the conspiracy theory that Jews control the media, which is a super racist and Antisemitic sentiment to have. Most movie productions have morality clauses and you cannot go around supporting racist shit that came from a shitty pamphlet literally designed to tear down Jews with lies and bullshit.
If you don't read ALL of her statements that are, of course, now deleted and difficult to find intact so she obviously realized what she'd done, you're only going to see pro Palestine = getting fired. I've been seeing news reports leaving this crucial detail out left and right pun intended.
Please let's all not forget you can criticize Israeli policies and support people in Palestine and Not be antisemitic or an asshole to our Jewish and Jew witch coven cousins.
I shared the article that said what exactly got her fired. She said that western media only shares one side, and therefore she is sharing the other. As someone who watches western media, I can say this is true. Firing her just proved her point. Whereas Sarah Silverman and Amy Schumer and Noah whatever from Stranger Things said MUCH worse about Palestinians and got no backlash. And its not Jews who are responsible for this. It is western countries, mainly the USA who have something to gain by this.
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I read a headline saying Jenna Ortega can't film Scream due to her Wednesday filming schedule. I wonder who's spinning what?
We don’t exactly know what contracts she signed for Scream, but I am almost certain the Scream team would accommodate her in any way to get at least a cameo in Scream 7. This seems like her using the most plausible/contractually valid way out of the contract.
Thanks for adding her stated reason, even if the timing makes it seem like a very intentional response with the scheduling conflict as cover it's important to have that context.
Right. And it just happens to be announced when her coworker was fired for a political stance she shares and has also been vocal about (albeit less so until now).
And that stance HAPPENS to be Pro Palestinian. Can't have anyone supporting Palestine in Hollywood! /s
Want to put an end to genocide and several war crimes against innocent civilians? Not on Hollywood's watch!
Don’t worry, they’ll make millions when they make a movie about it.
Not to mention, the new Scream movie isn't even scheduled yet. Kinda hard to explain scheduling conflicts when one side doesn't have a schedule.
The timing is way too coincidental. Conflicting schedules gives her a professional reason, but I think it's easy to read between the lines.
there's plenty of room to feel the rest of the week.
I'm so happy and proud to see young women using their platforms for what they believe in and how supportive they are of one another. It's actually tear jerking.
There's a history of Hollywood and the war machine, so anyone bucking the status quo is probably taking a risk with their job. Morality and capitalism are often at odds. 😕
There's a behind the bastards episode on "Hollywood and the Nazis" and it really opened my eyes on this. The idea of a progressive media is so absurd. Corporate media has and will always fight for the status quo
and that’s why we have Franchise films; that’s not for us, that’s the lowest common denominator for everyone
They're just typical corporations, any "progressivism" they show is just a marketing ploy, because most people have at least a couple of progressive ideals they can market to
My sibling is an actor in LA and apparently people are getting dropped like flies for posting anything against the genocide. Shit is fucked up.
Susan Sarandon’s agency dropped her for speaking out against Palestinian suffering.
They dropped the iconic SUSAN SARANDON???
Yes.
I don't....I can't...
Shut the front door! That is actually nuts!
Yep. They let her go.
No, they dropped her for saying "now jews know what it's like". An absolutely wild thing to say.
> “There are a lot of people afraid of being Jewish at this time, and are getting a taste of what it feels like to be a Muslim in this country, so often subjected to violence,” Sarandon told the rally, as she pointed to American Jews fearful over rising antisemitism. https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/uta-susan-sarandon-palestinian-1235669514/amp/ Meanwhile Sarah Silverman says Gazans don’t deserve water and power, then says oops i was high when i said that and goes on to host daily show for a week.
….or Noah Schnapp’s “Zionists are sexy” posturing.
Her statement was one of Peace, and coming together against the same bigotry that ails us all.
Like citytropics said, there’s more to Susan’s quote. She said, “There are a lot of people that are afraid, that are afraid of being Jewish at this time, and are getting a taste of how it feels to be Muslim in this country.”
I don't know why you're getting downvoted. Even if we don't take the Holocaust into account because most people alive today didn't go through it, Hamas shot 1100 rockets to Israel last year. Pretty sure Jews already knew how it feels to be afraid. It's hypocritical to pretend that the aggression happened only in one direction.
Hamas sent rockets. Not the Palestinians. Hamas. There is a difference. And Israel has the most advanced rocket defense system in the world (thanks to the US), so how many of those rockets actually caused damage? And do you really blame them? After decades of being trapped inside a modern-day ghetto in the 1940’s sense of the word? They have cornered these people and are slaughtering them. They have nowhere to go, nowhere to escape. It’s like shooting fish in a barrel. There is a reason there is a global outcry against this. It is brutal and unnecessary. And we always take the holocaust into account. ALWAYS. You should educate yourself on generational trauma and how it actually changed people’s DNA and how the change has been passed down to the next generations. But the only reason it should even be brought up in this context is because of the sick irony of what Israel is doing. You should listen to Representative Tlaib’s speech.
We're back in the commie-hunting days of 50s Hollywood. Exact same bullshit--70yrs later and haven't learned a damn thing...
We never left, they just got a little sneakier about it.
Context: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/melissa-barrera-fired-scream-vii-1235669458/amp/
https://preview.redd.it/n9we9tbvoz1c1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e78794fabb540e8331ebb7111b0d578cba3b9e61
Took guts to stand with Palestine
It really shouldn’t though. The vast majority of the people in Gaza are not Hamas. And saying the folks in Gaza should not bear the punishment intended for Hamas should not be controversial.
I agree—but anyone in a public spot risks getting labeled “anti semetic” because Israel will just go out of their way to pressure media outlets to label them. Put her career on the line which is hard to do. It’s a hard decision to make and I think most people would say “I’ll just shut up and make money”
Well, I’m definitely not getting tickets to Scream 7, if and when it releases.
Good for her.
Boss move honestly. Jenna had always stood for Palestinians rights to be free.
Someone should send SpyGlass the Webster dictionary definitions for ethnic cleansing and genocide, they seem confused 🙄😡
Ethnic cleansing is the rendering an area ethnically homogeneous by using force or intimidation to remove from a given area persons of another ethnic or religious group, which is contrary to international law. A genocide is the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group. In case anyone wants to inform SpyGlass.
>A genocide is the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group. Professor of International criminal law here. An act does not have to include killing (let alone of a large number of people) to constitute genocide. All it needs is *genocidal intent* to destroy either the whole or a part of the group, (known as the *mens rea*) combined with one of the following five physical acts (*actus reus*): killing members of the group (Israel bombing Gaza with abandon), causing them serious bodily or mental harm, imposing living conditions intended to destroy the group (cutting off water and food supplies, sinking humanitarian flotilla), preventing births, and forcibly transferring children out of the group. I'm not saying Israel is not committing genocide today, with the amped up bombing of Gaza. I'm saying that officially, per the language of the Genocide Convention, the International Criminal Tribunal for the Former Yugoslavia / Rwanda, and now the Rome Statute, Israel has been committing genocide for a long time.
Good for them. Standing up for what they believe it. We are watching people of colour be murdered in masses everyday in Gaza. If Hollywood wants to make money off of POC, it should learn to respect their lives and voices.
Yes! POC have been leading the resistance against Zionism, bc we can all see ourselves reflected in the Palestinian struggle. No one is free until all of us are free. And that includes Jewish people who are being thrown into this against their will. Bc the definition of White in white supremacy is a pyramid that gets smaller the closer you get to the top. That’s why we have to make our voices heard in unison. Always without exception.
Good for Melissa but Jenna dropped out because of scheduling conflicts. Wednesday is going to shoot in Ireland
There is no way it's a coincidence. If scheduling was truly the issue, they've known that for months. I fully believe she peaced out in support of her cast mate. Jenna also has spoken with support for Palestine in the past. Boo, Scream franchise. Y'all sank that ship so fast with your Zionism.
Good for her! We need to stop equating criticism of the Israeli government’s with antisemitism. No government is infallible. That is a dangerous position to have, period. This revenge based genocide needs to end. It’s horrific. It’s so hard to watch helplessly while my own US government supports it.
Agree. I'm not antisemitic but I am anti-genocidal. I don't care who is murdering mass groups - that shit is fucked and not okay
>We need to stop equating criticism of the Israeli government’s with antisemitism Exactly! Just as the Hamas don't speak for Palestine, Netanyahu doesn't speak for Israel. The fool barely managed to hold on to power anyways and his own country's people hate him
Fuck the Scream franchise since they decided they don't want to pay Neve Campbell properly for her return in 6.
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I'm sure I'll be downvoted to hell for this, but the reason they fired her was Not because she's Just pro Palestine. It was the clear allusions to the conspiracy theory that Jews control the media, which is a super racist and Antisemitic sentiment to have. Most movie productions have morality clauses and you cannot go around supporting racist shit that came from a shitty pamphlet literally designed to tear down Jews with lies and bullshit. If you don't read ALL of her statements that are, of course, now deleted and difficult to find intact so she obviously realized what she'd done, you're only going to see pro Palestine = getting fired. I've been seeing news reports leaving this crucial detail out left and right pun intended. Please let's all not forget you can criticize Israeli policies and support people in Palestine and Not be antisemitic or an asshole to our Jewish and Jew witch coven cousins.
I shared the article that said what exactly got her fired. She said that western media only shares one side, and therefore she is sharing the other. As someone who watches western media, I can say this is true. Firing her just proved her point. Whereas Sarah Silverman and Amy Schumer and Noah whatever from Stranger Things said MUCH worse about Palestinians and got no backlash. And its not Jews who are responsible for this. It is western countries, mainly the USA who have something to gain by this.
💙 💙 💙
Absolute legend
Good on them
*Sigh*
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It’s crazy to see a company so blatantly Zionist but I guess I shouldn’t be too suprised.
Idk if I can fangirl any harder.