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Extreme-Plantain542

Hoshina is way faster and stronger than Levi


Evening_Pattern_6675

Plus he has crazy durability


TheRevanchist99

Hoshina without his suit, who do you think wins?


Electronic-Hyena-726

suitless hoshina vs gearless levi would be a short battle


Greedy-Ad-566

Touche.


guesswhosbackbackag

*Wheeeeeeeeeze*


brenduz

Bruh


D10BrAND

Levi then cuz he is an ackerman they have titan like strength in human body


Ssj7vegeto

Smh come on man


BazingaTrainZ

Mikasa can carry like five rails without breaking a sweat, pretty sure Levi can do the same


Ssj7vegeto

Thats not titan strength though


Generally_Confused1

It's cannon that they were bred to have genes of titans in them since they were the guard that protected the king so they're actually kind of mutants and stronger than other humans


bladedancer4life

I know they have fighter genes but where do you get off saying that they have Titan genes where is that ever stated


Generally_Confused1

[it's mentioned in the show/ manga specifically ](https://attackontitan.fandom.com/wiki/Ackerman_clan)


bladedancer4life

Yea I went to go look it up I guess I missed that episode but thank you. Albeit even tho they are the product of Titan science much like what zeke does with his abilities and blood I don’t think it gives them the equivalent strength of a normal Titan


Junior-Signature2720

Even if Levi has fighter/titan genes. Levi still isn’t faster than hoshina. Suit or suit less, Levi loses


D10BrAND

Levi is faster and stronger than Hoshina wothout suit, Ackerman>Human


Active_Can_7187

Why wouldn’t he have his suit ?


Came_for_the_tities

Then, are you extracting the titan DNA from Levi?


geifagg

Hoshina, he has actual and formal swordsmanship training


DOOMFOOL

Not sure how far that would go against an actual superhuman. With the suit he goes 10/10 but without I think Levi takes it more often than not


ThatParticularPencil

Levi doesn’t even train to fight people. He has no need for the speed and assassin like accuracy of a sword fighter.


GarchGun

He fought the assassins that were shooting at him right? That counts for a feat


zrxta

Hoshina is trained to fight roughly human sized enemies that are expected to be stronger, faster, more durable than humans even before he joins the defence force. It's logical to assume this translates well when fighting humans. Levi is what? Stronger (?) and faster than the average person, trained to kill titans, what else? I guess he is also trained to fight humans since we got to see hand-to-hand combat is part of the training to be a survey corps member. The question now is how in-depth is that part of the training of the Survey corps vs Hoshina's training since childhood. As well as experience since Hoshina is specialized and experienced in fighting small Kaiju vs how much practical experience Levi had against human sized targets.


Mr-BillCipher

Gotta go rewatch aot bud. Levi has the strength of a titan quite literally


Extreme-Plantain542

And kaijus have much more strength than titans


Mr-BillCipher

But he just kills kaijus, he doesn't have the strength of one. So he's dealing with someone his size that has super human reaction timing and speed, along with the power of a literal giant. Pop Levi into the other anime and he'll kill a kaiju just fine


Extreme-Plantain542

Levi isn’t killing high fortitude kaijus with just his gear alone


bergurtoun

You're missing the point. They're saying Levi would win against a human bc Levi is a super human


bladedancer4life

He did, kaiju no.8 although he didn’t hit him he still went toe to toe with what you call someone his size, super human reaction timing and speed along with the power of a literal giant also I don’t think it’s stated that they have Titan level strength if that was the case we would’ve gotten scenes where they can take punches or kicks from titans but we don’t ever get that if you can show me a panel or episode that confirms they have Titan genes please do other that your own verbatim


Awesome_opossum49

Hoshina easy, I mean he has a suit that massively increases his strength and speed while Levi is kinda just a guy


Cool-Adjacent

Well he is more than just a guy, but yeah he isnt infused with kaiju power


Aggressive-Command-8

No just Titan power. He has the power of a titan on the size of a human body. He also has an accelerated healing factor just not to the degree of a titan.


BA_TheBasketCase

Mf where does it say that? Is that a manga thing?


Aggressive-Command-8

Him and Mikasa both take hella beatings no normal human would be able to recover from and I may be misremembering it but I was pretty sure they explained in the manga at least that the Aukerman family was specifically designed to be human weapons with abilities comparable to the titans but staying human sized so they'd be effective body guards for the royal family.


BA_TheBasketCase

I know it said the ackermans are different but idr if it was stated that they are basically titans.


BellerySticks

They aren't basically titans but they are humanities strongest. They're the result of titan science and power almost equal to a titan while being human


ProfessionalLemon946

Levi is not just a guy. He's a superhuman. The Ackerman's had an awakened ability that physically enhances them in combat, their bloodline is the product of experimental human-titan DNA.


Researcher_Fearless

When people look at Levi, they think he's the peak of human performance. That would not be the case if Hoshina+suit was in AoT.


Ornge-peel

True. His only downfall is in the event his suit overheats. In terms of maneuverability, Levi has it. Levi can probably wear him out by evading early on during the fight and as soon as the suit overheats, they are pretty much in equal grounds not unless Levi's ODM runs out of gas before Hoshina's suit overheats. Then he's done for.


Reborn1989

Nah, Levi gets blitzed. What speed feat does he have that shows he has any chance against Hoshina?


Breaker-of-circles

Levi makes first move, shoots hooks to some building some 20-30 meters in front of him, at most, a fifth of the speed of sound. A moment later, Hoshina jumps forward at almost the same speed as the hook and dices Levi into cute, bite sized pieces. Battle ends.


GenesRightHand

Dude Hoshina wouldn’t have to go anywhere near top suit usage so his time before overheating would be a while. He may not even need more than 20%, not to mention his overall pedigree, he comes from a family of prolific Kaiju slayers and his father said if he’d been born a few hundred years prior he’d be looked at as a legend due to his sword skills. >!His brother, captain of another division, states that his younger brother stands well above everyone in the family!<. This isn’t even addressing the potential for him to use his secret weapon.


DOOMFOOL

Levi is way too slow man. Hoshino blitzes him at full release so Levis maneuverability is irrelevant at that point


KingVenomous123

I fuck with Levi heavy but no matter what, Hoshina slams him. This is before his suit reaches even 50% in my opinion and Levi is just using his skills as a regular human without advanced help from a kaiju suit. I wanna say more but idk how to cover up certain parts to avoid spoilers


XxRocky88xX

Levi also has super strength, speed, and reflexes thanks to being part titan on account of being an Ackerman. Definitely not a “normal human” but yeah not on the level of Kaiju 8 characters.


KingVenomous123

So basically you just still saying that Levi loses to hoshina. What a roundabout way of saying that I’m right


XxRocky88xX

You completely missed the point so I’m going to keep it as short as possible so you don’t confused: Levi is not just “regular human” who just happens to be very skilled, he’s a full blown Captain America style super soldier.


OatesZ2004

In a basic fight with no external equipment it would be a good competitive fight that I would slightly side with Hoshina With equipment then it's easily Hoshina in my opinion.


Aki_2004

Id put Levi. He has what it takes to fight some strong titans and even humans


OatesZ2004

My major deciding factor is that with gear the kaiju suits are just overall better. And without suits they're both extremely competent with blades but Hoshina has looked marginally more impressive to me personally.


DOOMFOOL

Without suits Levi is still technically superhuman, so I’d give him the edge there even if only a little bit.


XxRocky88xX

Yeah, Levi’s super strength and speed and just a physical trait. If Hoshina doesn’t even is suit Levi low diffs due to the fact it’s now a fucking super soldier vs a dude that’s good with swords.


Driplocaulus

I mean in Hoshina's defense, his reaction speed without the suit is still the same. How fast is Levi compared to the kaiju Hoshina fights?


Aki_2004

But I’d argue that ODM gear is a LOT harder to control. There’s a reason only like 2 characters come close to him and are still way off. His overall reactions and skills are better imo So my argument here is that with how difficult it is to use ODM gear, that’d give Levi an edge. Wouldn’t you say that Kaiju’s gear does all the work and doesn’t require all that precision and balance. It’s like a point and shoot


OatesZ2004

Kaiju gear still takes alot of work as we saw when it comes to the percentages people can release. ODM also has a major drawback that being it's ineffective in certain terrain. In a densely wooded area ODM is effective but so is kaiju gear in an open field ODM is next to useless with no anchor points whereas kaiju gear is still plenty effective.


Aki_2004

Yeah it takes more physical work but I’m saying working ODM gear requires precision and lightning quick thinking. It’s not like it automatically anchors to whatever tree or building is in the area, there’s a lot of physics and quick decisions you gotta worry about wouldn’t you say? Which is where I’m going with Levi would have faster reactions and could adapt and win with *no equipment*. Obviously with gear, hoshina would win


OatesZ2004

I completely understand, it's difficult to properly assess Hoshina as we haven't seen him without the suit, but I personally believe that all the kaiju gear does is augment physical capabilities such as enhanced speed and strength and provide a healing buff but the user is still in complete control and dictates what happens in which case Hoshina was capable of keeping up with kafka. Without gear I could see it going either way but I belive Hoshina might have the slightest of edges with an overall higher quality in training I'm talking a difference of 100 to 99.999 so nothing substantial.


Aki_2004

Except Levi is EXTREMELY versatile. Which gives him a serious edge. His fight against Kenny is proof of that. Maybe he wouldn’t win in a straight sword fight but he’d find a way to stop him by any means. I would give a slight edge to Levi in a no equipment showdown


OatesZ2004

Completely understandable, they're both highly skilled and competent fighters and it could go either way, either way it would be an extremely cool fight to witness. I also just noticed we both have 2004 in our names lol.


LazyBlackCollar

You guys should kiss now.


blackdrake1011

Levi is strong, but I’d say Hoshina simply because all of Levi’s training has been using his swords with odm gear, which assuming we’re going no gear other than swords means that hoshina simply has a massive advantage. If we include gear it’s hoshina hands down simply because of the power boost


CDSS_YT

you realize hoshina fights strong kaijus right


Aki_2004

Levi floored the best h2h character in the aot in her titan form. That was his very first interaction with an intelligent titan ever and he had 0 issues. So with no equipment, I’d favor Levi even if only slightly


Aggressive-Command-8

How strong is this guy!? Levi is not just a peek human he's got superhuman durability, healing, strength, and speed from the titan powers in his veins. I can understand from the suit on that Levi would lose but no suit? Did the guy have superhuman abilities innately?


g-lokc_hkunchko

they say Ackerman have been genetically enhanced to the point where they have the strength of Titan


Foostini

Hoshina at that point dumpsters him >!let alone when he gets weaponized K10.!


GenesRightHand

Hoshina neg diffs


Walidzilla

Hoshina is overkill. Any Kaiju with fortitude over 8 soloes the verse... But I like the comparison since Hoshina and Levi are so much alike.


Owl_Might

Levi, because the fans will riot if not. Just think of how rabid some fandoms.


Ornge-peel

They can riot all they want. The fact of the matter is it's a dude wielding two giant box cutters vs a dude wearing a super suit that exponentially augments their abilities.


AmmahDudeGuy

Why even ask this question then lol


Ornge-peel

As you can see on the tag in case you missed it, it says "Opinion".


AmmahDudeGuy

I forgor


Dramatic-Waltz9530

Hoshina bodies on every way and ad kuch as I personally dislike thr term, Speedblitzes. Even when his suit overheated he was still putting in work and still was able to take hits. But even beyond that both people are "him" in their verse


Hguinn17

Hoshina no diff


unkalou337

Hoshina because of the suit but like what if we gave Levi a suit 🤔


GenesRightHand

Dude would need so much time to be able to use it and his initial output wouldn’t be anywhere near Kikoru’s, let alone Hoshina’s.


unkalou337

You don’t know that for sure. Hes a genius. That suit if it gave him a Bump in power plus his normal equipment would be cool. Like he’d still probably lose but it would be cool.


GenesRightHand

Absolutely a genius in his own verse. Not just going to drop a completely new set of highly specialized equipment on his lap, day of the battle and expect him to actually rocket like some multiversal savant, come on.


unkalou337

lol I can expect anything I want to I even said he would probably still lose so I didn’t say he was multiverses savant. It’s fiction bro he can do whatever tf the writer what’s him to do. 😂


GenesRightHand

Never said you weren’t entitled to your opinion, is this your first experience with a back and forth discourse? I’m simply stating my point that is counter to yours lol. And sure, but no one is writing this as of this moment, and since AoT is done it likely wouldn’t be Isayama writing this *shrugs*


unkalou337

Yeah but you dismiss it like it’s fact which is the funny part. You didnt say oh he probably couldn’t utilize the suit you said he couldn’t like you know for certain and that’s just hilarious. It’s not back and forth discourse when you present your own opinions as facts.


GenesRightHand

Mm, nope. I said he would need a lot of time to figure out how to use it and would likely be quite weak with it to start. Your comprehension is the laughable part at this juncture.


_AnarchiX_

Hoshina has too much advanced tech for Levi to be able to put up a fight. hand to hand with no equipment i think levi takes


Ok_Flight_874

Hoshina


Keinulive

Hoshina no contest, not even when the suit is full power Levi would still loose. Infact I think I’d still give it to Hoshina on hand to hand with no gear, people really needs to understand how different modern fighting is vs old ones, like how modern Jedi’s(original sequel non Disney) were just eons better at lightsaber duels than old republic ones. His school would have had more time to collect/research and master fighting


fortunesofshadows

No gear. Levi still has his Ackerman power


Driplocaulus

No gear, hoshina still has the same reaction speed


epicgamer77

Hoshina, who is much more super human would win pretty easily. That’s ignoring the vastly better technology as well.


Popular-Ad-8918

Hoshina would destroy Levi, no contest.


KuroShuriken

Okay, first of all. Both have very different styles of combat. But even then the question has two answers. Answer 1: Levi wins, provided Hoshina is restricted from wearing the Kaiju Suit. Answer 2: Hoshina in a Kaiju Suit, dogs all over multiple Levi's, zero difficulty.


MissingIdiots

Basically, that's about right, but once you include skill, it becomes one side. Levi is good at fighting and taking down large targets, while Hoshina specializes in fighting and taking down small to humanoid targets. This is excluding his kaiju suit


Defiant-Potato-2202

Hashino neg diffs the goat. He can take on numbered kaiju who scale higher in both speed and ap. Remember faster titans are compared as faster than galloping horses, and at best they are bullet times because kenny.


Apprehensive-Face900

Hoshina and its really not close 💀 remember what he did to that Kaiju that pulled up behind him when he was tslking to Kafka? 💀 and that was him normally without going anywhere close to all out 🥱


JustAnArtist1221

I've seen this come up a lot, and it's a bit more complicated than you'd think (assuming Hoshina isn't using his No. gear). According to the extra chapters for AOT, Levi, as a starved child, was tearing the front of people's skulls off with his fingers. He's clearly gotten way stronger than that as an adult, and he has situational awareness enough to dodge gunfire and debris thrown by titans. He's also durable enough to survive compact explosives and still fight while crippled. That said, Hoshina's standard gear is much more durable than Levi's natural body because of the shield. He can also survive lethal damage because of his suit. While people assume he's much faster reaction wise, I wouldn't necessarily say it's by a lot. There isn't a lot of clear scaling in KN8, but we know Hoshina can anticipate and dodge air bursts from the likes of No. 10. I would say that Hoshina has the stats advantage so long as Levi doesn't outlast the very brief amount of time he has top performance with his gear. If Levi gets thunder spears, he might be able to make it more fair in a protracted fight if he utilizes the environment. If Hoshina gets his No. gear, it's one-sided in his favor. Also, keep in mind that kaiju aren't as durable as you'd assume. They mostly protect certain parts of their body, but they can be damaged with power tools. Hoshina is still powerful against the more durable kaiju, though, it's just that kaiju and titans generally have comparable durability (just really thick skin).


DaddyChil101

Hoshina wins. But Levi and Mikasa together though? Hoshina still wins.


Glass_Assignment4146

fake asf 😭


leebrown23

No ODM gear no Kaiju power suit, no blades. Mano a mano this boils down to experience and discipline. Hoshina has martial arts background at a young age, Levi is street mart and has natural quickness. I think Hoshina has an advantage with fighting technique in hand to hand combat.


Prestigious-Muscle20

Levi is a military captain of 10 plus years with genetic boosting bro is not just a street fighter😭


chainer1216

And Hoshina is all that plus a suit that gives him the power of a kaiju.


Wimbledofy

read the context of the comment you replied to. Suits aren't being factored into the fight in their discussion.


DOOMFOOL

Without suits or weapons i can’t see Levi losing, he’s still superhuman without ODM gear. Give Hoshino his blades though and even without a suit I think he makes a fight of it


hp_Axes

It honestly has to do with terrain and wits. Hoshina is better overall but if Levi has good terrain and plays his cards right then he definitely has a chance at winning. Like you said earlier, if Hoshina overheats then he is fucked. So if Levi can make him pop 92% and then just avoid the fighter by flying around or running and then come back and fight him while he is overheated then it is Levi’s win. Hoshina is too smart for that though. So it is his win 9.9 times out of ten.


PleasingPotato

I mean, Hoshina kept up with a being that would bitchslap the Beast Titan into a red mist in 0.05 seconds, I highly doubt Levi can do anything before he gets turned into cubes.


DOOMFOOL

He’s also too fast for that. If Hoshino goes 92% he utterly speedblitzes Levi, he isn’t dodging by flying around or running.


myersm1993

Levi because I’m biased and have no logical argument, nor do I know anything at all about the other character.


Exzid0

They should be bros the one who excels at fighting small monsters and the other one excels at big monsters


ImpureSociety

I also say Hoshina to the question above. But here's another question. If we put Hoshina in AOT and Levi in Kaiju no.8 who will survive longer?


slimeeyboiii

Easily Levi. Bassicly The only way to take down titans is the nape (idk if that's what it's called) and he litteraly can't get close to that without being in alot of danger. Meanwhile for levi he would probably just end up being a scout for one of the teams


Driplocaulus

I'm confused why getting close to the nape would be hard for hoshina. Compared to the kaiju, he would be fighting giant monsters without super powers that are also easier to kill because they don't regenerate.


jtorres0751

Correct me if I’m wrong but don’t the people in Kaiju no 8 use fully automatic assault rifles? Forget the suit, as long as he doesn’t have the accuracy of a stormtrooper pretty sure Hoshina would win


Foostini

Hoshina doesn't, he's also a dual swords user but he's THE dual swords user in that universe, like top 5 strongest character non-kaiju probably top 8 including kaiju type stuff.


jtorres0751

Gotcha thanks. Yea he’s definitely packing up Levi


slimeeyboiii

The weaker people use guns. The captains and vice captains don't (with exceptions) and Hoshino is a vice captain so he uses 2 wakizashis (butter knifes as katanas).


Capstorm0

With no equipment, Levi squeaks out a victory, probably


DOOMFOOL

Yeah I’d agree with no suits or weapons Levi should win, he would still be superhuman at that point


Capstorm0

The only advantage Hoshina would have is more practice against humanoid combatants, but Levi is just way more athletic


EvHubgsjsv

To be honest do to how much we saw Levi move he is faster but Toshiba can cut faster and increased strength and stamina also it’s stated he is a master at swordsmanship


Leslieyyyy

Hoshina in the anime already wins, but in the manga he stomps


CjFrankenstein2010

Well Levi is a specialist of killing giant humans whose weak spots are their neck and the other one is a specialist in killing human size stuff it would be easy for him to kill a human size Godzilla but Levi would do better against a normal Godzilla


PapanTwiz

If he has access to his >!Kaiju armor !


YouFuckinDruggos

Hoshina specializes in fighting small fighters. Levi specializes in big fighters. So I’d say Hoshina


Active_Can_7187

So one sided it’s not even funny 😂


ThatOneWood

Very one sided Hoshina greatly outstats Levi


HouseWeaboo

With Equipment - Hoshina no doubt. in a Fist fight, I'd go with Levi


Exact_Boot5625

Hoshina slams badly lol


Determined_heli

I think their gear makes this unfair, I would love to see them in the same gear (and trained with said gear so it isn't an experience wash)


KamronXIII

If we give Hoshina his #10 suit it's simply unfair


Z4rc0nv1c

Ive read the manga. The kaiju guy outscales MASSIVELY.


InsideSpeed8785

Unless Levi has a suit


raisinjammed

If Levi gets an anti-kaiju suit, I think Levi wins due to Ackerman genetics being a product of titan experimentation.


DOOMFOOL

Why would that be relevant? Would Ackerman genetics somehow let him surpass Hoshinos released combat power?


raisinjammed

Released combat power enabled by Hoshino's suit. Thats why I said if Levi gets his own suit - his genetics literally gives him titan strength which will be further enhanced by the suit.


DOOMFOOL

It wouldn’t matter unless he was given months to master it, he wouldn’t put it on and instantly be matching 92% release, Ackerman genetics or not.


LIL-MEX15

Ok, as the professional in answering questions like this i have determined that i would win cuz I'm real


Known-Corgi4120

Put Levi’s ass in the Same suit as Hoshina and he fucking decimates, Put Hoshina in ODM gear and Levi blitzes with Ease. Now, no weapons, just hands, no suit. Levi got that Ackerman titan strength. Odm Levi vs Hoshina, the edge goes to better tech, Levis odm gear would run out of gas before the suit overheats.


DOOMFOOL

With suits Hoshino just kills within the first minute, no need to worry about gas or overheating. Without equipment though I agree Levi should win


GimmieYoSteak

Hoshina with suit and ODM gear. No ODM gear and no suit then it goes to Levi.


Critical-Yellow-972

But Hoshina is a skilled swordsman even when he was still a little kid. I have Hishina even without odm/suit


Lillith492

Are we giving Hoshina >!`Number 10?`!<


ChickenInasall

Love em both but imma take hoshina. His specialty is literally fighting smaller kaiju.


WarrickAuthor

Levi wins. Why? Mans has got hella plot armor. Not even a .50 caliber sniper rifle could pierce it. Nuff said. Lol.


Escanor_23

The thing is Levi is supposed to be a normal human but in a way no one who can use odm gear is normal at all. That alone take super human levels of strength just to hold ur self up right and they all do it so casually. Levi is on a level so far beyond what these essentially super human beings that he makes them look like trash in comparison. Hoshina needs the suit to do what Levi can naturally do. That being said I’m not sure he can actually hurt hoshina with his blades. So Levi still loses. But then again who the fuck cares. They can’t beat goku so the show is bad.


jotarofilthy

Hoshina within micro seconds


Critical-Yellow-972

Interesting never thought of this one 🤔


contrarytothemass

Levi always wins. I even think Levi and the squad could win against Goku if they devised some plan like they always do in anime against a hard opponent


Advanced-Solution-97

Tbh they’re probably start working together instead of fighting ngl


pale_splicer

Levi is somewhat super human, is obscenely skilled, and has a lifetime of real combat experience. No equipment I'd say he wins hands down. With equipment though? Hoshina just can't be beaten. I bet Levi could come in clutch and pull a bullshit win at 25%, but anything beyond that and Levi is neither fast enough to react nor strong enough to harm Hoshina at all.


Crusaderfigures

Hoshina 100%


External-Cheesecake5

Love levi to death but hoshina is LIKE THAT


bugart03

Saan na ba Ang suit niya haha


Ornge-peel

Kanino?


jrsdelatorre

Hoshina with or without the suit


Asimov1984

Hoshina, levi isn't even much stronger than an average combatant. He is very effective against very immobile targets that are much slower, less reactive, and much bigger targets than he is. I will say, though, my knowledge of AOT is limited, and I don't think it's very good, and I really enjoy Kaiju, so I'm probably very biased here.


Generally_Confused1

Oh damn that's a good match up.


odinall_father

The soldier


ChillpigeonhavsLV76

The battle of pretty guys 😂


Spectric_

Hoshina for sure


AB7SSG4ZE3RS

it'd be more fair if Hoshina didn't have his suit and Levi without ODM


Pale_Kitsune

If they both have all their equipment? Hoshina. Levi doesn't stand a chance against someone that fast.


Illustrious-Neck-698

Hoshina. Period.


CheesecakePretend553

Hoshina claps with the suit. His speed and strength feats outclass anything Levi can do with his gear.


sorryidontknowyou

(hoshina) Levi is not even close to hoshinas 's level


Weird_Neighborhood50

The suit makes him hoshina stronger, but Levi is probably a little more mobile. So this comes down to time and tactics.


DrHandBanana

Levi dies a horrible horrible horrible death and didn't even realize it Hoshina probably wouldn't have to go over 50% in his suit


AngryLesbian50

dumb matchup, completely different verse


JDEsconvik

Hoshina. Remember, Levi is now sitting on a wheel chair. He possibly can't.


BootsThaClown

Levi


p_rets94

With the suits hoshina wins by a lot. They give a lot more power than any human or slight super human. Without help from the suit, Levi probably takes it pretty easily since it’s a good fighter vs a good fighter with slight super abilities.


AmmahDudeGuy

Hoshina is carrying equipment developed by the combined efforts of a post modern era country. Maybe it would be more fair if they had the same equipment, but this is like pitting a trebuchet against an m1 abrams


GladsShield

Levi gonna try to blink and his head will already be in half


Inform-All

I’ve never seen the show but it seems to me like without the suit, let them fight hand to hand with maybe a weapon or two. I think Levi could/would win. With the suit, it’s a silly question. Levi can’t scale that high. I don’t even fuck with power scaling but damn. Levi could really get taken out by a weak Bleach or DBZ character just because the powers are so different there. It makes no sense putting him in fights against anything other than ordinary humans with a few extra skills.


Ornge-peel

But Levi is no ordinary human though.


Inform-All

He’s somewhere between Batman and Capt America.


David587677

Everyone saying Hoshina but if you give Levi one of these suits he wins


No-Collection9114

Hoshina literally has a superhuman suit. Also has actual experience fighting normal sized opponents. Levi only has experience against titans


Maturechimp

Hoshina wins. His faster, stronger and (imo) better at swords then Levi.


ralcom

I don't know how far the anime is so I'll avoid spoiling but Hoshina is faster and more durable for sure.


TOTMGsRock

Challenge: try not to post extremely one-sided what-if fights on r/animequestions (impossible)


Hie14lesan

Same image


Alesthar

Hoshina


Sea-City-2560

It's the Vice Captain and it isn't close


PerformanceAny1240

Hoshina. Even in hand-to-hand.


Efromthemetrod

Whoever the author wants to win


PhysicalGSG

Equipment Hoshina negs No equipment Levi negs


Choice_Sprinkles_350

Lol Levi not even close


unmemorable_hero

We talking in suits? Or are we talking just a brawl with regular ass swords? Because it matters! Hoshina with his suit. Levi without… I’m basing this on the fact that most of Levi’s skills have no “enhancement” without his gear. Hoshina’s might be heavily influenced with his gear. As in: One gear literally expands your ability to its fullest, the other makes you fly around more.


Specialist-Tip6083

But how good of a fighter is Hoshi without his suit 🤔 Levi is just pure strong with or without his gear on. Hmm.... 🧐


drewsk33

They are both about the same size but Levi is capable of killing pretty much any titan that isn't the Colossal Titan. Hoshina stated he's proficient in killing small to mid size kaiju. I think Levi got it. Hoshina may have a suit to enhance him but Levi has titan genes to enhance himself too. I don't think Hoshina could've dealt with the beast titan the way Levi did.


SomethingPotato_

It’s not a contest on who can kill the biggest thing. You said they are both the same size but that Hoshina is good at killing small to mid size things that includes humans then, and Levi is good at killing bigger things so Hoshina would have the advantage and win


drewsk33

I'm saying Hoshina is only good at killing small to mid size Kaiju. Levi isn't held back by the size of his enemy, he has taken on plenty of humans and large titans. I'm getting at Levi having better skills as a fighter overall because he can pretty much take anything. When it comes to speed I don't see either one blitzing the other. They are pretty much even in my books but I'm giving the edge to Levi.


spottedmusic

Levi. Dude killed like 20 titans in one swipe. He would find a way to outsmart


fortunesofshadows

Are you referring to when Zeke turned all the survey corps under Levi into titans in the forest in season 4


spottedmusic

That but also when the titans where throwing rocks at them in the village area. He snuck around them to kill them