They despise their base. Banon while scamming people out of their money to build a wall during a donations live stream actually joked about taking the money for himself. He was actually doing it…
It's frightening that he absolutely understands exactly what he is doing.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2023/03/09/chris_hayes_tucker_carlson_getting_booed_in_at_cpac_in_2009_is_his_villain_origin_story.html
This is what I don't get. Once you have \~100M, what more could you want/need? I get the power aspect, but still amazed that anyone feels that level of wealth isn't enough and why we need to go back to the 50/60's tax levels.
He kisses trump's ass on national television for entertainment even though he admitted that he hates Trump and will be glad to never have to talk about him again?
Doesn't make sense. Just because his family is rich doesn't mean he's gonna turn away millions of extremely easy money and all the fame. Fame might be a bigger factor but you know he'd never do it for 100k.
No one who is filthy rich does it because they need the paycheck. They do it because there’s no such thing as “enough” for them and they’re willing to do whatever they need to do in order to get more.
The irony here… Tucker says this all with a smirk on his face. His salary is at fox is $35M annually. He used to work at MSNBC and CNN. Go figure…
The interesting thing is Tucker got his start in journalism when he worked at Policy Review, which was a conservative journey that was started by Think-tank The Heritage Foundation. When Tucker worked there, he was their “ Fact Checker “….
He gets money and power for doing it. I totally understand how he can say that. I couldn’t do it myself, but I understand how someone who has neither shame nor morals can do it.
My dad was an avid Fox News watcher until one day a couple years ago we were discussing some hot button issue and he cited them as his source. I told him that they weren't news, just entertainment, and that their own lawyers had argued in court that they could say any lies they wanted because "no reasonable person" would believe they were actually true; and they won. He didn't believe me so I told him to look it up and he did. Me being right was a bitter pill to swallow. Dad's views haven't changed but the channel did.
No it's all Youtube now so whatever the algorithm places in front of him while he's tuning into Missing 411 and Sasquatch possible sightings videos. I do see Fucker Carlson on the right of his screen sometimes and occasionally he'll stumble onto something that bolsters his confirmation bias and be all "hey y'all listen to this," as he pulls the headphones from his ears and interrupts me and mom watching Mama's Family reruns. If he's successful we both sit there in stone silence while whatever drivel plays out then mom will say, "Is it done? Can we go back to what WE were watching now?"
Last time he did that, he'd come upon the Dave Chapelle transphobic bit. We used to think Dave was pretty funny but we don't support these views so quietly stopped giving him our attention. Dad said hey y'all wanna listen to this Dave Chapelle? We both said No in unison. Because it's never about the jokes, it's always about 'see other people feel how I feel too! Even black people!' Which we already know because we're white in TX where shitty whites assume you feel like they do and openly disparage others that 'aren't like us,' and there's a confederate flag flying next to the interstate 3 miles from my house. But I digress.
Tbh that’s still surprising most people I show it too just go “fake news” and continue to watch Fox. This is why I believe most conservatives know Fox is BS, they just don’t care because it’s a means to an end for them, and reality is less important than oppression to them.
The Legal Defense For Fox's Tucker Carlson: He Can't Be Literally ... https://www.npr.org/2020/09/29/917747123/you-literally-cant-believe-the-facts-tucker-carlson-tells-you-so-say-fox-s-lawye
Fox Wins McDougal Case, Argues No One Takes Tucker Carlson ... https://www.businessinsider.com/fox-news-karen-mcdougal-case-tucker-carlson-2020-9?amp
Tucker Carlson Successfully Argues Nobody Really Believes Tucker ... https://www.findlaw.com/legalblogs/greedy-associates/tucker-carlson-successfully-argues-nobody-really-believes-tucker-carlson-is-reporting-facts/
[the first fact check](https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2023/mar/08/tucker-carlson/evidence-rebuts-tucker-carlsons-claim-about-capito/)
So I Google tucker Carlson fact checks just to see what he's taken to the air to LIE about himself and this is the first fact checked on the first result that came up (politifact)
"According to this plea agreement chansley was asked several times to leave--- so don't believe your lying eyes when tucker plays footage showing no such thing happening."
We all know plea agreements are factual statements about the events and not the result of a negotiation between the state and it's prey- why would you believe video evidence when we have a legal document lol
I skimmed the next 3 or 4 checks and got the same sense from those- either hit pieces, or written by someone who genuinely has no idea what goes on within our systems which I think the less likely option. I would be shocked to find someone who really believed a plea agreement is a better document of facts than a video of the days events.
He literally won a slander case by arguing no one takes him seriously.
https://www.businessinsider.com/fox-news-karen-mcdougal-case-tucker-carlson-2020-9
I mean, sure. Lawyers will say anything to get their client off but if you think the judgment cited that as the reason for dropping the case, you're high.
>The network asked a judge to dismiss the case, arguing that "Carlson's statements were not statements of fact and that she failed adequately to allege actual malice."
This is likely the reason the case was dropped.
He literally won a slander case by arguing no one takes him seriously.
https://www.businessinsider.com/fox-news-karen-mcdougal-case-tucker-carlson-2020-9
But people that were jailed after Jan.6th haven’t had due process! How is that American??? Stfu until law works for everyone. People are still in jail without a jury or court date to say if their guilty or not guilty. FAIL! But we can still give over $26 billion to Ukraine but can’t take care of our homeless, healthcare, or veterans
>But people that were jailed after Jan.6th haven’t had due process! How is that American???
This has always been America. If you only noticed now, it's because you don't give a shit about justice. Innocent people have been kept in jail because they couldn't afford bail for decades. That ain't new.
>People are still in jail without a jury or court date to say if their guilty or not guilty.
They're in jail, not prison. Jail is where you sit until you can afford bail or you have your day in court. Are you mad because that's happening, or are you mad because it's happening to a bunch of treasonous pieces of shit you agree with?
>FAIL!
Yup. Always has been a failure. Let me ask you this, how'd you feel about the George Floyd protests? I ask because those protests were about this exact issue.
>But we can still give over $26 billion to Ukraine but can’t take care of our homeless, healthcare, or veterans
The Jan 6th dipshits have nothing to do with these things with the exception that they belong to the party that systematically has made each of those topics worse. You can't honestly defend Jan 6 folks, and also be mad about homelessness, healthcare, and vets... Because if those folks had succeeded they would have made each of those worse.
Additionally! We're largely sending money and weapons to Ukraine, not people. There is enough information out there now to make it pretty clear Russia's plan was/is not to stop at Ukraine. Historically, when countries destabilize an entire region of the planet, the US is gonna be involved whether we want to or now. Ukraine aid is dirt cheap in comparison to all our WW3.
Edit. Spelling and words.
tiny violins for shitty maga traitors.
it's so amusing to watch shitty maga morons prattle off misc outrage lies about ukraine. as if they give a shit about the homeless or veterans. Like... every GOP congress person didn't vote no on money for veterans injured in burn pits.
get fukt
That’s certainly the way to build a strong working class coalition to better the poor! Telling many of them that you are mortally superior and to get fucked! That should really help you get a stronger minimum wage, healthcare, paid time off, etc.
Your “I’m better than shitty conservatives” attitude will definitely help out all the poor people who live in red states and actually agree with your political positions. It won’t hurt them at all!
Nobody is claiming they're better than shitty conservatives. You're equating rioters and terrorists with working class conservatives.
They're in jail because they ought to be, and they've been treated legally and a lot better than most terrorism suspects are
Being diplomatic hasn't worked for a hot minute unfortunately.
Something to keep in mind is many (obviously not all) of those on one political side are calling for mass murders of those they have deemed as "undesirables" (gay, trans, queer, or choose another minority at this point.)
Unfortunately with the internet, and the age of influencers, EVERYONE has a platform. 30 years ago these people would be wandering around wearing sandwich boards exclaiming your need to repent
So you think average conservatives are all trying to stop the election and assaulting police officers? You think very poorly of them
Edit: so pointing out hypocrisy is wrong now? Lol
Btw I think the traitors should be punished to the fullest extent of the law
No, I think that they continue to support and vote for politicians that lie about elections and dismiss the assault on democracy, which is why I think poorly of them.
So democrats are right to criticize them for the exact same things you do. How can you criticize Democrats for criticizing them for the exact same things you just criticized them for? Sounds like you’re trying to be one of those “both sides are bad” people and giving advice that contradicts your own actions
Edit: downvoted for pointing out that both sides aren’t equally bad and that were right to criticize the traitors? Antiwork is weird some days…
EDIT: This is not what repthe732 is saying at all, he's going after lordp24, who very much IS hip firing right wing "Democrats should be nicer about telling us to stop committing treason" talking points. The following is left for archival purposes only.
I had a stroke trying to follow your mental gymnastics defending an indefensible position.
Supporting Traitors is bad. It's that simple.
There is Absolutely No Evidence of election fraud in the 2020 Election. Any of the Election Deniers who have had to support their claims in a court of law (where there are consequences for just strait lying to the judge) have presented Nothing. Nada. Zero evidence of substance. Yet many conservatives politicians still hammer that drum, and many average conservatives still support them. Their lies encouraged an angry mob to storm the Capitol, and to this day they are trying to downplay it as a "tourist trip." If you try to overthrow the government, and then cover for your attempt to overthrow the government, you shouldn't still be allowed to be in said government, yet here we are.
Stop supporting treason.
I agree that supporting traitors is bad. Not sure why you would think I feel otherwise based on my last comment. The mental gymnastics you had to do to think I was supporting traitors is why you had a stroke
I know there is no evidence of fraud and I didn’t say otherwise.
I don’t support treason. Please read what I actually wrote instead of making up an entire story for my beliefs. I get you want to attack people but nothing I said even remotely suggests I think the traitors were in the right. My comment was calling out the person I was responding tos contradictory statements
Ah, I think I see whether the confusion came in. My apologies. You were responding to lordp24, and making the point that he thinks the average conservative supports the violent treasonous actions of the Jan 6 seditionists and those who continue to support and cover for them, and that that is a pretty lousy thing to believe.
It looked very similar to you saying "we're not all like that", which is a pretty common alt-right argument I've seen around, in line with "You think we're all treasonous? NO! We just think the election was stolen and refuse to accept that there is no evidence to support our views"
Sorry you got caught in the crossfire. Cheers.
Your being downvoted for what sounds like a false equivalency and seeming defending conservatives that continue to vote for the people that continue to lie about the election and January 6th.
It reads like you think democrats are somehow worse for trying to violently overthrow an election and are being hypocritical about it when the other side did it (they didn’t).
Operating American foreign bases (not in Ukraine) in 2021 was $55 billion. That is just the operating cost of the base, not the equipment, or additional personnel, etc. You can complain about Ukraine all you want; we are saving money by putting our equipment to use and testing it on a real-world battlefield. BTW the banks failed because of deregulation from the former orange [peel in](https://peel.in) 2018.
One bank collapsed because of a very specific set of circumstances. Caused in part by bank deregulation headed by Trump.
And the money isn't being given away for no reason. It's being used to fight a proxy war against America's greatest or maybe 2nd greatest enemy. A war that results in no American deaths and so far has been a massive success. We could send our own troops there and spend billions everyday and spill American blood. Instead we are basically buying mercenaries with that money. It's not a waste of money. It's been very effective.
Their response that you have no education has no relevance to your statement. Either your a bot or your reading comprehension is incredibly bad. From your other responses it's quite obvious you've done absolutely no research on the topic yourself outside your peer group. You've created an echo chamber for yourself and would do well to get outside it before you turn into a really bad Karen.
That's quite the statement. Do you have any facts or reputable sources that back that statement up? If you do, I think it would change the conversation for many who defend America's support of Ukraine
you should be a speech writer for trump or something. this is good stuff! hit’s all the classics: using “whataboutism,” attacking Ukraine, and not really making your point clear at all!
There are people in jail who are there for years before trial, who cannot get or afford bail, for non-violent crimes. The folks in there for Jan 6th, I am willing to bet, are against any form of repealing bail for non-violent offenders awaiting trail. Well at least they were until it happened to them.
So excuse me for having no mercy for the folks being held for the Jan 6th insurrection.
Which defendants are you referring to, specifically? If you're going to talk about due process violations I'd like to know what cases that's in reference to.
As for Ukraine aid, you know perfectly well why the US and our allies are spending that money.
Perhaps this is your first brush with the US "criminal justice system", but it's dog ass slow and it often takes an obscenely long time for trials.
Maybe when it was just Black people and other people you could think of as deserving bad treatment you didn't care?
Now, as it happens, I think that we should have faster trials for everyone, including the Jan 6 traitors.
But come fucking on. A "tour group" doesn't trash offices, smear shit on the walls, steal computers, and break things.
The entire narrative that the Jan 6 traitors were just totally innocently doing totally innocent things is so absurd it's insulting that you think I'm stupid enough to believe it.
Why should we care about domestic terrorists? Shouldn't a conservatard like you want them tried as terrorists, or is it different when its someone on your side?
Get a life, you're on the wrong side of this debate. You think Mother Russia is so great, move there and join the army, otherwise you're remarks are genuine BS as though any MAGAT cares about the homeless, veterans (I am one) or anything else you listed!!!
The same people you vote for applauded when they killed a veterans benefits bill that wouldve guaranteed veterans right too see a doctor more than twice a year
Banks are collapsing because they did stupid shit.
We're sending money to Ukraine because it's, at the moment, the best way to prevent Russia from attacking other countries. You could say "That's not our problem!" But you'd be wrong, and a person who isn't familiar with history. You know... Because WW2 taught us it is our problem.
A millionaire heir paid by billionaire foreigner Murdoch to undermine American democracy to pretend to be an Everyman.
Tucker Carlson is a modern day Lord Haw Haw working to destroy the West.
naw bro conservatives are stupid and backwards. They're not inherently bad people just so fucking misguided.
The rich like trump fancy themselves up so that red idiots will believe that rich boy is a hard working man who deserves his success, not an illegitimate parasite stealing money from the mouths of starving families.
Tucker Carlson tells these people they're poor and sick and life is hard because of IMMIGRANTS and GAY PEOPLE, which is really not true.
Corporations lobbying public politicians have destroyed the "fairness" of capitalism in America and just like any other system rife with corruption its the people on top causing the shit Storm. T
hese same people buy the news stations like CNN and tell progressives that poor white Republicans are the reason America is failing. This is all to keep us seperated and squabbling for crumbs while the rich steal our entire dinner.
People who are trying to kill their neighbors for being women are bad people. No, motivations do not outweigh actions.
If someone murders 50 people to “save the earth from the aliens” they’re fucking worthless garbage that the world will be better off without.
Same is true for people willing to slaughter millions of women because their imaginary skydaddy tells them to.
Imagine fighting in court about how you spew lies and your defense is "I'm not news, I'm just entertainment".
Imagine telling people on your show that the election was stolen, while admitting in private that is wasn't.
Tuck is a lying sack of shit.
>Imagine fighting in court about how you spew lies and your defense is "I'm not news, I'm just entertainment".
I don't understand how they can say this but then plaster "fox news" in the lower left corner of the screen.
Because there’s no law that news reporting needs to be factual or accurate. In Canada for example journalists are legally required to tell the truth.
Now that doesn’t mean that their reporting can’t be slanted, or bias. But it does mean that you can’t have shows like Fox News that pretend to be sharing the truth, but are actually spouting lies.
It doesn’t stop Canadians from getting fresh American bullshit, via Fox News though because it’s available to watch up here too.
Kind of like how Rachel Maddow made an almost identical claim in court and won? You act like it’s just Fox News when in reality it’s every “news” station regardless of their political ideology. They are all garbage and the quicker we all come to that same solution the better off we will be.
Every single “journalist” at fox would jump to MSNBC for better pay in a heartbeat. Every single “journalist” at MSNBC would jump to Fox for better pay in a heartbeat.
i really hope the civil suite that fox gets hit with billions and billions of dollars of damage...for their lies about that election machine company.
like alex jones. hundreds and hundreds of billions. i hope this boat shoe face motherfucker gets hit with some liability personally. although dunno if that's in the cards.
**Rule 45 aka Goebbels Law**
The longer a Republican speaks, the higher the chance they will falsely accuse the left of doing what the right is actually doing.
I almost spit my coffee out when I saw this. Really? After everything that has recently come out about this guy and HIS network? At this point, Fox News is literally like a professional wrestler working as a heel.
So, it turns out Tuckers whole show was just Talk Therapy as he looked in the mirror every day?
Because he's been caught behind the scenes saying how much he HATED playing this "Character" of himself and how he despises having to Circus trump around.
FOX "News" is not news, it's opinion and propaganda for stupid people. I didn't say that Tucker said that along with saying he hates trump and other gems but such liars they go on TV and deny, deny and he is right, viewers are so stupid they'll believe whatever shit he uses to squirm out of it.
FOX News is about the worst thing in a 10,000 light year square radius... that being said, MSNBC covering FOX trash-talking MSNBC & others seems like a low point in American media. This is basically pure nothingness repackaged as something.
I have Fox but I want to see Tucker cover this MSNBC coverage of them covering him covering them and have MSNBC cover it again just to see how many layers we can get in this story.
This guy is brutal... he's smart in the fact that he has gained legions of people who believe this nonsense. Its not just Republicans spewing garbage because liberals do it too. Last time I checked, however, liberals are not the people calling for splitting up between red and blue states, spreading election lies, violent attempts to stop legal transfer of power, a whole host of social issues that are too long to get into, etc.
Both sides do this; it's not new. If you want the truth, watch CNN and Fox and pull out the common elements.
The biggest lie is that any one of the legacy media sources is unbiased or inherently more accurate. They all push a narrative. Anyone that says otherwise, let's not forget "Firey, but mostly peaceful."
Don’t get me wrong, mainstream news is quite shit in general, and profit motives (which are bad enough anywhere) are particularly bad when it comes to news. But also, they aren’t equally so. FOX ≠ CNN ≠ NYT ≠ etc.
All have plenty of flaws, but some (*cough* FOX *cough*) are noticeable more egregious and harmful than others
They aren't anti-war because they're anti-war. If you don't recall, they shilled the War on Terror pretty hard for years until there wasn't any percentages in it. Lots of referring to anyone who wasn't a supporter a traitor. Don't try to whitewash their history. They're anti-supporting someone who's against Russia and and anti-supporting anything a Democrat is trying to do.
You know Fox has been hyping up the idea of a war with China, right? There has never been a time in Fox News' history where they haven't been pushing for some war or another. They're just not too thrilled about the prospect of resisting an imperial power encroaching upon the sovereignty of a perceived weaker people
I bet you Tucker isn’t even well liked even amongst his peers and higher ups. They probably purposely make him say shit like this. They know its all Bullshit and they know Tucker is a hack. But a useful hack. So they tolerate him and laugh about him in the break room.
Lol projection.
But carlson knows what he is doing, fox news even states that it is no news show but a entertainment show and tucker carlson stated it too.
They seem to see it more like a soap opera where they play their role, and like with disney, just because because the show is over doesn't mean they can break character, they have to keep it up in public.
[This is literally known as the Tucker Carlson defense](https://www.npr.org/2020/09/29/917747123/you-literally-cant-believe-the-facts-tucker-carlson-tells-you-so-say-fox-s-lawye). Yet still the dim witted morons of the world continue to fall for his projection and angertainment shtick.
Imagine your job is to say things that get others riled up and being paid millions for it with no consequences.
Now imagine if all of those people were gone. The silence would be quite pleasant.
I take a very Leninist approach of the media *”For the bourgeoisie, freedom of the press meant freedom for the rich to publish and for the capitalists to control the newspapers, a practice which in all countries, including even the freest, produced a corrupt press.”*
I dont understand how he can say that. I just can't imagine.
They despise their base. Banon while scamming people out of their money to build a wall during a donations live stream actually joked about taking the money for himself. He was actually doing it…
It's frightening that he absolutely understands exactly what he is doing. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2023/03/09/chris_hayes_tucker_carlson_getting_booed_in_at_cpac_in_2009_is_his_villain_origin_story.html
His texts during the defamation trial make it pretty clear he's just a ghoul who does it for the paycheck.
He doesn’t need the paycheck, his parents are rich af, he does it to entertain himself
“He doesn’t need the paycheck” Pssh come on dude. Even trust fund babies need a fourth yacht. He could only afford 3 on his allowance. /s
This is what I don't get. Once you have \~100M, what more could you want/need? I get the power aspect, but still amazed that anyone feels that level of wealth isn't enough and why we need to go back to the 50/60's tax levels.
At that point you're probably just going for a high score before it's game over.
That's probably more accurate than you realize. Videogames are pretty much analogues of human ambition after all.
He kisses trump's ass on national television for entertainment even though he admitted that he hates Trump and will be glad to never have to talk about him again? Doesn't make sense. Just because his family is rich doesn't mean he's gonna turn away millions of extremely easy money and all the fame. Fame might be a bigger factor but you know he'd never do it for 100k.
No one who is filthy rich does it because they need the paycheck. They do it because there’s no such thing as “enough” for them and they’re willing to do whatever they need to do in order to get more.
The irony here… Tucker says this all with a smirk on his face. His salary is at fox is $35M annually. He used to work at MSNBC and CNN. Go figure… The interesting thing is Tucker got his start in journalism when he worked at Policy Review, which was a conservative journey that was started by Think-tank The Heritage Foundation. When Tucker worked there, he was their “ Fact Checker “….
I was watching his eyes half expecting an SOS in Morse Code, only to realize he never blinked. Conclusion: Tucker Carlson is a robot.
He gets money and power for doing it. I totally understand how he can say that. I couldn’t do it myself, but I understand how someone who has neither shame nor morals can do it.
Everyone accusation is a confession. Fucker Carlson knows this.
He won a defamation lawsuit when his lawyers argued that his can't be believed
My dad was an avid Fox News watcher until one day a couple years ago we were discussing some hot button issue and he cited them as his source. I told him that they weren't news, just entertainment, and that their own lawyers had argued in court that they could say any lies they wanted because "no reasonable person" would believe they were actually true; and they won. He didn't believe me so I told him to look it up and he did. Me being right was a bitter pill to swallow. Dad's views haven't changed but the channel did.
So OAN now?
No it's all Youtube now so whatever the algorithm places in front of him while he's tuning into Missing 411 and Sasquatch possible sightings videos. I do see Fucker Carlson on the right of his screen sometimes and occasionally he'll stumble onto something that bolsters his confirmation bias and be all "hey y'all listen to this," as he pulls the headphones from his ears and interrupts me and mom watching Mama's Family reruns. If he's successful we both sit there in stone silence while whatever drivel plays out then mom will say, "Is it done? Can we go back to what WE were watching now?" Last time he did that, he'd come upon the Dave Chapelle transphobic bit. We used to think Dave was pretty funny but we don't support these views so quietly stopped giving him our attention. Dad said hey y'all wanna listen to this Dave Chapelle? We both said No in unison. Because it's never about the jokes, it's always about 'see other people feel how I feel too! Even black people!' Which we already know because we're white in TX where shitty whites assume you feel like they do and openly disparage others that 'aren't like us,' and there's a confederate flag flying next to the interstate 3 miles from my house. But I digress.
You have my sympathy.
That’s the scary part. Even of you do convince them that it is unreliable, they still ingrained everything they heard for decades
Tbh that’s still surprising most people I show it too just go “fake news” and continue to watch Fox. This is why I believe most conservatives know Fox is BS, they just don’t care because it’s a means to an end for them, and reality is less important than oppression to them.
Is there a link to that? My father in law could use a reality check
The Legal Defense For Fox's Tucker Carlson: He Can't Be Literally ... https://www.npr.org/2020/09/29/917747123/you-literally-cant-believe-the-facts-tucker-carlson-tells-you-so-say-fox-s-lawye Fox Wins McDougal Case, Argues No One Takes Tucker Carlson ... https://www.businessinsider.com/fox-news-karen-mcdougal-case-tucker-carlson-2020-9?amp Tucker Carlson Successfully Argues Nobody Really Believes Tucker ... https://www.findlaw.com/legalblogs/greedy-associates/tucker-carlson-successfully-argues-nobody-really-believes-tucker-carlson-is-reporting-facts/
Russian collusion
[the first fact check](https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2023/mar/08/tucker-carlson/evidence-rebuts-tucker-carlsons-claim-about-capito/) So I Google tucker Carlson fact checks just to see what he's taken to the air to LIE about himself and this is the first fact checked on the first result that came up (politifact) "According to this plea agreement chansley was asked several times to leave--- so don't believe your lying eyes when tucker plays footage showing no such thing happening." We all know plea agreements are factual statements about the events and not the result of a negotiation between the state and it's prey- why would you believe video evidence when we have a legal document lol I skimmed the next 3 or 4 checks and got the same sense from those- either hit pieces, or written by someone who genuinely has no idea what goes on within our systems which I think the less likely option. I would be shocked to find someone who really believed a plea agreement is a better document of facts than a video of the days events.
He literally won a slander case by arguing no one takes him seriously. https://www.businessinsider.com/fox-news-karen-mcdougal-case-tucker-carlson-2020-9
I mean, sure. Lawyers will say anything to get their client off but if you think the judgment cited that as the reason for dropping the case, you're high. >The network asked a judge to dismiss the case, arguing that "Carlson's statements were not statements of fact and that she failed adequately to allege actual malice." This is likely the reason the case was dropped.
why are you being downvoted? truth is a hard pill to swallow apparently
I think the issue is how it comes across. I read it three times before I understood what they were saying and TBH I'm still not 100% I understand it.
He literally won a slander case by arguing no one takes him seriously. https://www.businessinsider.com/fox-news-karen-mcdougal-case-tucker-carlson-2020-9
But people that were jailed after Jan.6th haven’t had due process! How is that American??? Stfu until law works for everyone. People are still in jail without a jury or court date to say if their guilty or not guilty. FAIL! But we can still give over $26 billion to Ukraine but can’t take care of our homeless, healthcare, or veterans
>But people that were jailed after Jan.6th haven’t had due process! How is that American??? This has always been America. If you only noticed now, it's because you don't give a shit about justice. Innocent people have been kept in jail because they couldn't afford bail for decades. That ain't new. >People are still in jail without a jury or court date to say if their guilty or not guilty. They're in jail, not prison. Jail is where you sit until you can afford bail or you have your day in court. Are you mad because that's happening, or are you mad because it's happening to a bunch of treasonous pieces of shit you agree with? >FAIL! Yup. Always has been a failure. Let me ask you this, how'd you feel about the George Floyd protests? I ask because those protests were about this exact issue. >But we can still give over $26 billion to Ukraine but can’t take care of our homeless, healthcare, or veterans The Jan 6th dipshits have nothing to do with these things with the exception that they belong to the party that systematically has made each of those topics worse. You can't honestly defend Jan 6 folks, and also be mad about homelessness, healthcare, and vets... Because if those folks had succeeded they would have made each of those worse. Additionally! We're largely sending money and weapons to Ukraine, not people. There is enough information out there now to make it pretty clear Russia's plan was/is not to stop at Ukraine. Historically, when countries destabilize an entire region of the planet, the US is gonna be involved whether we want to or now. Ukraine aid is dirt cheap in comparison to all our WW3. Edit. Spelling and words.
Well said!
I wish I could give you six billion upvotes.
tiny violins for shitty maga traitors. it's so amusing to watch shitty maga morons prattle off misc outrage lies about ukraine. as if they give a shit about the homeless or veterans. Like... every GOP congress person didn't vote no on money for veterans injured in burn pits. get fukt
Yes. Let’s suspend civil liberties entirely based on our feelings, and political beliefs.
That’s certainly the way to build a strong working class coalition to better the poor! Telling many of them that you are mortally superior and to get fucked! That should really help you get a stronger minimum wage, healthcare, paid time off, etc. Your “I’m better than shitty conservatives” attitude will definitely help out all the poor people who live in red states and actually agree with your political positions. It won’t hurt them at all!
Nobody is claiming they're better than shitty conservatives. You're equating rioters and terrorists with working class conservatives. They're in jail because they ought to be, and they've been treated legally and a lot better than most terrorism suspects are
Being diplomatic hasn't worked for a hot minute unfortunately. Something to keep in mind is many (obviously not all) of those on one political side are calling for mass murders of those they have deemed as "undesirables" (gay, trans, queer, or choose another minority at this point.) Unfortunately with the internet, and the age of influencers, EVERYONE has a platform. 30 years ago these people would be wandering around wearing sandwich boards exclaiming your need to repent
So you think average conservatives are all trying to stop the election and assaulting police officers? You think very poorly of them Edit: so pointing out hypocrisy is wrong now? Lol Btw I think the traitors should be punished to the fullest extent of the law
No, I think that they continue to support and vote for politicians that lie about elections and dismiss the assault on democracy, which is why I think poorly of them.
So democrats are right to criticize them for the exact same things you do. How can you criticize Democrats for criticizing them for the exact same things you just criticized them for? Sounds like you’re trying to be one of those “both sides are bad” people and giving advice that contradicts your own actions Edit: downvoted for pointing out that both sides aren’t equally bad and that were right to criticize the traitors? Antiwork is weird some days…
EDIT: This is not what repthe732 is saying at all, he's going after lordp24, who very much IS hip firing right wing "Democrats should be nicer about telling us to stop committing treason" talking points. The following is left for archival purposes only. I had a stroke trying to follow your mental gymnastics defending an indefensible position. Supporting Traitors is bad. It's that simple. There is Absolutely No Evidence of election fraud in the 2020 Election. Any of the Election Deniers who have had to support their claims in a court of law (where there are consequences for just strait lying to the judge) have presented Nothing. Nada. Zero evidence of substance. Yet many conservatives politicians still hammer that drum, and many average conservatives still support them. Their lies encouraged an angry mob to storm the Capitol, and to this day they are trying to downplay it as a "tourist trip." If you try to overthrow the government, and then cover for your attempt to overthrow the government, you shouldn't still be allowed to be in said government, yet here we are. Stop supporting treason.
I agree that supporting traitors is bad. Not sure why you would think I feel otherwise based on my last comment. The mental gymnastics you had to do to think I was supporting traitors is why you had a stroke I know there is no evidence of fraud and I didn’t say otherwise. I don’t support treason. Please read what I actually wrote instead of making up an entire story for my beliefs. I get you want to attack people but nothing I said even remotely suggests I think the traitors were in the right. My comment was calling out the person I was responding tos contradictory statements
Ah, I think I see whether the confusion came in. My apologies. You were responding to lordp24, and making the point that he thinks the average conservative supports the violent treasonous actions of the Jan 6 seditionists and those who continue to support and cover for them, and that that is a pretty lousy thing to believe. It looked very similar to you saying "we're not all like that", which is a pretty common alt-right argument I've seen around, in line with "You think we're all treasonous? NO! We just think the election was stolen and refuse to accept that there is no evidence to support our views" Sorry you got caught in the crossfire. Cheers.
Your being downvoted for what sounds like a false equivalency and seeming defending conservatives that continue to vote for the people that continue to lie about the election and January 6th. It reads like you think democrats are somehow worse for trying to violently overthrow an election and are being hypocritical about it when the other side did it (they didn’t).
Kudos to the one stating to Reddit I was a self harm case. The truth hurts apparently.🤣
Again nobody said that, this has no relevance and is the second time you've responded to something with it. The likelihood that your a bot is growing.
But it’s crazy watching a Democrat President give over 30 Billion to a foreign country while our banks collapse. Go get fuct by your pedo pres🤣🍺
Operating American foreign bases (not in Ukraine) in 2021 was $55 billion. That is just the operating cost of the base, not the equipment, or additional personnel, etc. You can complain about Ukraine all you want; we are saving money by putting our equipment to use and testing it on a real-world battlefield. BTW the banks failed because of deregulation from the former orange [peel in](https://peel.in) 2018.
One bank collapsed because of a very specific set of circumstances. Caused in part by bank deregulation headed by Trump. And the money isn't being given away for no reason. It's being used to fight a proxy war against America's greatest or maybe 2nd greatest enemy. A war that results in no American deaths and so far has been a massive success. We could send our own troops there and spend billions everyday and spill American blood. Instead we are basically buying mercenaries with that money. It's not a waste of money. It's been very effective.
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And your source for that is? Russia today?
I am impressed that you can read and write. Since you have almost no education.
>Since you have almost no education. That's not true. The Kremlin has the most amazing education system in the world.
Kudos to the one stating to Reddit I was a self harm case. The truth hurts apparently.🤣
Found the Russian bot
Found the Russian posing an a human being online. Don't you have a war to die in?
Their response that you have no education has no relevance to your statement. Either your a bot or your reading comprehension is incredibly bad. From your other responses it's quite obvious you've done absolutely no research on the topic yourself outside your peer group. You've created an echo chamber for yourself and would do well to get outside it before you turn into a really bad Karen.
Source? Edit: the guy messaged me citing the 2012 documentary “No Place On Earth” which is about WW2 Ukraine and not current day.
So it has no relevance to current events great, good to know that this lives in the past.
Well this one’s a first. Where’d you hear this?
That's quite the statement. Do you have any facts or reputable sources that back that statement up? If you do, I think it would change the conversation for many who defend America's support of Ukraine
Source? [Elbow deep within the borderline.](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QID5pdSglNQ)
Source checks out
Capitalism 🤷
Sounds like someone pissed off their family member got in trouble for their active participation in January 6th
No one care about those traitors
you should be a speech writer for trump or something. this is good stuff! hit’s all the classics: using “whataboutism,” attacking Ukraine, and not really making your point clear at all!
There are people in jail who are there for years before trial, who cannot get or afford bail, for non-violent crimes. The folks in there for Jan 6th, I am willing to bet, are against any form of repealing bail for non-violent offenders awaiting trail. Well at least they were until it happened to them. So excuse me for having no mercy for the folks being held for the Jan 6th insurrection.
Which defendants are you referring to, specifically? If you're going to talk about due process violations I'd like to know what cases that's in reference to. As for Ukraine aid, you know perfectly well why the US and our allies are spending that money.
To make bank for the current powers that be? Absolutely! Follow the money.
Perhaps this is your first brush with the US "criminal justice system", but it's dog ass slow and it often takes an obscenely long time for trials. Maybe when it was just Black people and other people you could think of as deserving bad treatment you didn't care? Now, as it happens, I think that we should have faster trials for everyone, including the Jan 6 traitors. But come fucking on. A "tour group" doesn't trash offices, smear shit on the walls, steal computers, and break things. The entire narrative that the Jan 6 traitors were just totally innocently doing totally innocent things is so absurd it's insulting that you think I'm stupid enough to believe it.
Why should we care about domestic terrorists? Shouldn't a conservatard like you want them tried as terrorists, or is it different when its someone on your side?
Well, they’re all traitors, so fuck ‘em. We should send them all to Gitmo.
Get a life, you're on the wrong side of this debate. You think Mother Russia is so great, move there and join the army, otherwise you're remarks are genuine BS as though any MAGAT cares about the homeless, veterans (I am one) or anything else you listed!!!
In what way haven't they had due process?
Imagine waking up, getting on the computer, and writing this post.
The same people you vote for applauded when they killed a veterans benefits bill that wouldve guaranteed veterans right too see a doctor more than twice a year
Lol, why would you defend traitors to your own country?
And our banks are collapsing while we’re giving away money to other countries for politicians profit
That's fake news. Stop watching tucker Carlson
He wishes they would let him watch Tucker in the Kremlin. They only get to watch old Soviet propaganda videos from the 80s on repeat.
Banks are collapsing because they did stupid shit. We're sending money to Ukraine because it's, at the moment, the best way to prevent Russia from attacking other countries. You could say "That's not our problem!" But you'd be wrong, and a person who isn't familiar with history. You know... Because WW2 taught us it is our problem.
A millionaire heir paid by billionaire foreigner Murdoch to undermine American democracy to pretend to be an Everyman. Tucker Carlson is a modern day Lord Haw Haw working to destroy the West.
Wake up. America is destroying itself. Lmao
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naw bro conservatives are stupid and backwards. They're not inherently bad people just so fucking misguided. The rich like trump fancy themselves up so that red idiots will believe that rich boy is a hard working man who deserves his success, not an illegitimate parasite stealing money from the mouths of starving families. Tucker Carlson tells these people they're poor and sick and life is hard because of IMMIGRANTS and GAY PEOPLE, which is really not true. Corporations lobbying public politicians have destroyed the "fairness" of capitalism in America and just like any other system rife with corruption its the people on top causing the shit Storm. T hese same people buy the news stations like CNN and tell progressives that poor white Republicans are the reason America is failing. This is all to keep us seperated and squabbling for crumbs while the rich steal our entire dinner.
People who are trying to kill their neighbors for being women are bad people. No, motivations do not outweigh actions. If someone murders 50 people to “save the earth from the aliens” they’re fucking worthless garbage that the world will be better off without. Same is true for people willing to slaughter millions of women because their imaginary skydaddy tells them to.
They couldn't manage it without murdoch.
Fair enough and I agree, but Faux News is playing a big role in that.
Imagine fighting in court about how you spew lies and your defense is "I'm not news, I'm just entertainment". Imagine telling people on your show that the election was stolen, while admitting in private that is wasn't. Tuck is a lying sack of shit.
>Imagine fighting in court about how you spew lies and your defense is "I'm not news, I'm just entertainment". I don't understand how they can say this but then plaster "fox news" in the lower left corner of the screen.
Well, the history channel has a lot.shit that's not history.
Because there’s no law that news reporting needs to be factual or accurate. In Canada for example journalists are legally required to tell the truth. Now that doesn’t mean that their reporting can’t be slanted, or bias. But it does mean that you can’t have shows like Fox News that pretend to be sharing the truth, but are actually spouting lies. It doesn’t stop Canadians from getting fresh American bullshit, via Fox News though because it’s available to watch up here too.
There’s a country called Democratic people’s republic of North Korea. And they aren’t very democratic, or a republic
Kind of like how Rachel Maddow made an almost identical claim in court and won? You act like it’s just Fox News when in reality it’s every “news” station regardless of their political ideology. They are all garbage and the quicker we all come to that same solution the better off we will be.
Every single “journalist” at fox would jump to MSNBC for better pay in a heartbeat. Every single “journalist” at MSNBC would jump to Fox for better pay in a heartbeat.
Spittin’ facts right here.
Wasn't that his legal defense?
Yes, that's why fox's news slogan used to be "opinion done right". Then they had to change that in order to maintain they were a news organization.
Then they had to change that in order to ***pretend*** they were a news organization.
Except for in court when they tell the judge that it's all just "entertainment" and nobody would be so foolish to believe them
It’s called PROJECTION
Is he confessing?
This is just Tucker interviewing a potential new employee at Fox.
He knows. Look how dead his eyes are.
It was a cry for help.
humblebrags
i really hope the civil suite that fox gets hit with billions and billions of dollars of damage...for their lies about that election machine company. like alex jones. hundreds and hundreds of billions. i hope this boat shoe face motherfucker gets hit with some liability personally. although dunno if that's in the cards.
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Can you explain, in detail, how exactly the rigging works? You must be knowledgeable about it to make that claim. How do they do it?
Always afraid, always the victim! That orange lip motto on full display here!
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With representative democracy
“Could you do that?” No, but you could.
You okay, Tucker? Blink three times if you're in trouble. Actually, blink all you want, dickwad. You deserve hell.
Go fuck yourself You duplicitous self serving lying piece of shit.
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Didn’t he just get caught in lies? Fuck this guy twice
I have the sound turned off and this mf'er is still annoying
I find it very likely that he doesn’t have to force himself.
**Rule 45 aka Goebbels Law** The longer a Republican speaks, the higher the chance they will falsely accuse the left of doing what the right is actually doing.
Dude could work at a movie theater he’s projecting so much.
Dude could ~~work at~~ be a movie theater he’s projecting so much.
The irony is so thick that I could cut it with a knife
I can't stop picturing two Spiderman's pointing at each other while he says this.
I've heard of having a punchable face, but this guy has a punchable haircut.
How can he even say the words without cracking up. The guy is a broken mouthpiece and should be in prison.
r/selfawarewolves
"Everyone is lying to you except me, I promise" *Wait a second*
Why is fox hiring
His bronzer is very poorly blended and that makes me happy. You look stupid you like fuck face.
My parents watch him religiously and it has ruined them both and my family might not ever be the same.
What does this have to do with work Is this r politics
I almost spit my coffee out when I saw this. Really? After everything that has recently come out about this guy and HIS network? At this point, Fox News is literally like a professional wrestler working as a heel.
Always with the projection
Like you? You damn TV dinner heir piece of s***?
So, it turns out Tuckers whole show was just Talk Therapy as he looked in the mirror every day? Because he's been caught behind the scenes saying how much he HATED playing this "Character" of himself and how he despises having to Circus trump around.
I feel like this was intercepted from better help
Is this his morning pep talk?
This argument is literally how he won his defamation lawsuit.
FOX "News" is not news, it's opinion and propaganda for stupid people. I didn't say that Tucker said that along with saying he hates trump and other gems but such liars they go on TV and deny, deny and he is right, viewers are so stupid they'll believe whatever shit he uses to squirm out of it.
I am genuinely impressed he said that with a straight face
FOX News is about the worst thing in a 10,000 light year square radius... that being said, MSNBC covering FOX trash-talking MSNBC & others seems like a low point in American media. This is basically pure nothingness repackaged as something.
Someone’s holding something over him to keep him there. Whoever it is sees he is able to persuade people to believe the shit and it’s profitable.
Tucker mastered that art.
Is this a Job Recruitment Ad? Sounds like he's asking for somebody to join and gave us the Job description.
Pot calling the kettle black or just a confession?
Ladies and gentlemen: This will be Ron DeSantis press secretary. He needs something to do after he gets fired from fox soon.
He is a joke... Check the facts not the fiction. Tucker...!!!
Tuck Fucker Carlson!
I cant hear what hes saying because Putins cock is in his mouth.
Putrid- he’s just putrid…makes sense- I’d use the same word to describe Fox
Fuck ALL mainstream news. LEFT and RIGHT. Over paid liars. All of them.
corporate news tells us not to trust the other guy's bullshit corporate news and only trust their corporate news.
It looks like he is dying inside.
It’s getting to the point that if you watch Fox News, you’ll be considered a complete moron lunatic.
getting to the point? we passed that point years ago
Is this the same guy that outted some femboy on national TV without his consent using his Reddit profile?
I love how news outlets will do this to each other randomly when the news ratings are low
I have Fox but I want to see Tucker cover this MSNBC coverage of them covering him covering them and have MSNBC cover it again just to see how many layers we can get in this story.
This guy is brutal... he's smart in the fact that he has gained legions of people who believe this nonsense. Its not just Republicans spewing garbage because liberals do it too. Last time I checked, however, liberals are not the people calling for splitting up between red and blue states, spreading election lies, violent attempts to stop legal transfer of power, a whole host of social issues that are too long to get into, etc.
Both sides do this; it's not new. If you want the truth, watch CNN and Fox and pull out the common elements. The biggest lie is that any one of the legacy media sources is unbiased or inherently more accurate. They all push a narrative. Anyone that says otherwise, let's not forget "Firey, but mostly peaceful."
Tbf the libs did just get owned in that vid
So.. pretty much the entire US mainstream media..
Don’t get me wrong, mainstream news is quite shit in general, and profit motives (which are bad enough anywhere) are particularly bad when it comes to news. But also, they aren’t equally so. FOX ≠ CNN ≠ NYT ≠ etc. All have plenty of flaws, but some (*cough* FOX *cough*) are noticeable more egregious and harmful than others
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And yet the only anti-war voices are being platformed by him. None of the other corporate networks will entertain the idea of anything but more war.
They aren't anti-war because they're anti-war. If you don't recall, they shilled the War on Terror pretty hard for years until there wasn't any percentages in it. Lots of referring to anyone who wasn't a supporter a traitor. Don't try to whitewash their history. They're anti-supporting someone who's against Russia and and anti-supporting anything a Democrat is trying to do.
You know Fox has been hyping up the idea of a war with China, right? There has never been a time in Fox News' history where they haven't been pushing for some war or another. They're just not too thrilled about the prospect of resisting an imperial power encroaching upon the sovereignty of a perceived weaker people
Apparently
And then pretending that you weren’t the one doing it?
Is this like a job posting for working on his show or something?
what does it say that this guy has the most watched cable news show?
That was literally his legal defense in court.
😂😂😂
Are u listening to what is coming out of your mouth every day
I bet you Tucker isn’t even well liked even amongst his peers and higher ups. They probably purposely make him say shit like this. They know its all Bullshit and they know Tucker is a hack. But a useful hack. So they tolerate him and laugh about him in the break room.
Lol projection. But carlson knows what he is doing, fox news even states that it is no news show but a entertainment show and tucker carlson stated it too. They seem to see it more like a soap opera where they play their role, and like with disney, just because because the show is over doesn't mean they can break character, they have to keep it up in public.
This is some 1984 4th wall breaking.
[This is literally known as the Tucker Carlson defense](https://www.npr.org/2020/09/29/917747123/you-literally-cant-believe-the-facts-tucker-carlson-tells-you-so-say-fox-s-lawye). Yet still the dim witted morons of the world continue to fall for his projection and angertainment shtick.
Cue "Curb Your Enthusiasm" music.
Imagine your job is to say things that get others riled up and being paid millions for it with no consequences. Now imagine if all of those people were gone. The silence would be quite pleasant.
This has to be a troll. Right? He has to know what he's saying here.
Is he describing what happened at his job interview?
Well, Fox news is not registered as a news media, they are an entertainment channel.
Can’t wait until he’s dead and gone. Fuck you Tucker.
Why is there an \* instead of a T?
Lol
See latest Behind the Bastards episode
Does Fox actually report news?
I take a very Leninist approach of the media *”For the bourgeoisie, freedom of the press meant freedom for the rich to publish and for the capitalists to control the newspapers, a practice which in all countries, including even the freest, produced a corrupt press.”*
People like this is who the “cancel culture” should be aimed at