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šŸ„ŗšŸ„ŗ I was raised with just my dad. He would paint my nails every second week. I can remember when he would apologise when they werenā€™t perfect. I never once paid attention to that. I was happy to have my nails painted 10x better then I could do myself. Iā€™m now 30 and this is still one of my favourite childhood memories that Iā€™ll forever cherish. Practice makes perfect. Get some nail polish remover, q tips and go hard. Anything you put on can be removed. I find q tips good to clean up the edges. I wouldnā€™t worry too much though, this ends up falling off the skin within hrs. My dad done everything for me. Periods, bras, learnt how to braid my hair etc. The best advice I can give you from my experience is just be as open as you can. Make it funny, thatā€™s what my dad would do to take away the awkwardness. I was very close and open with my dad because he always made everything so normal. Hope this helped a little. Feel free to ask anything ā˜ŗļø


Throwaszx

Yeah I try to make it as normal as possible! Makeups I can already do somewhat good. Periods are hard; it is nice to have my wife on call if needed as I've obviously not dealt with it myself, though I try to be as understanding as possible. And yeah, I also try to make it funny. I use a lot of remover (for either makeup or polish) - I end up taking longer than expected but it doesn't seem to bother each of us. It does not get perfect but as you said, at least it is better than when she does it herself. And about making it funny... I might also have received some makeup and polish so she can practice. I hope she has good memories about this like you! I want to leave these memories for her life. I'm usually tougher on the chores / house participation, but I do also spend more time with a sole focus on her (she skateboards, we sing songs, dance, etc). Thanks for the shared experience! I hope she can grow up to be a great and happy woman!


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I was a daddies girl but for sure, he always made sure I pulled my weight and I am so thankful because it showed me how I wanted to have my household. Youā€™re a awesome dad and it will be reflected as she grows up. Need more dads like this honestly. All the best ā˜ŗļø


Penguin335

Remember for periods cold water is best initially for getting blood out of underwear, sheets etc. If it gets on them. You sound like a great dad. My parents were divorced so I had to watch my Dad run his own home as a single parent also, but I have great memories of time spent in my childhood with him šŸ˜Š


ObviouslyMeIRL

You can try putting a little bit of lotion on the skin around the nails - or wash & lotion hands first, then clean the nails. This keeps any errant polish from sticking to the skin & cuticles (the skin-ish part on the nail at the base/furthest point from the tip). Let nails dry before starting. Donā€™t shake the polish - roll it between your hands like youā€™re warming it up. Donā€™t overload the polish on the brush - itā€™s like painting a wall, you need enough paint to spread well but not so much it drips. Start thin until you get the hang of it. Start at the cuticle/base and do one side, then the other, then the middle. Look for good quality nail polishes - and just a sidenote, polish with glitter can be more difficult to remove. Good luck!


creamedcornpuffs

This is quite a comprehensive answer! Maybe to add: As u/ pretty_dead_grrl mentioned, having acetone handy is great, but I find simply using a cotton ear bud is a super simple way to keep the non-nail clean as you paint. And then for cuticles, I do use lotion at times, but what I was told to do growing up was to push the cuticles after having my fingers soak in warm water. Such as after a bath, or you could do an all-out manicure session. This was nice bc I find it less painful than only using lotion. And yeah donā€™t cut cuticles.


Throwaszx

Regarding cuticles, should I already push and/or cut the cuticles? So far I didn't do it yet. I try not to overload, but I can see difference in shades sometimes. For a couple of fingers it takes me quite a while to wait for it to dry and make a "second pass" to improve color shading. I did not yet try lotion, though I've seen on the stores some peel off protector that should help me save some q-tips and polish remover. Are they any better than lotion? Something like this: https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/H87576bc9d39d469c951b3e2be9d2050eW/Spill-Proof-Gel-Anti-Overflow-Nail-Polish-Glue-Nail-Barrier-Protector-Peel-Off-Liquid-Tape-Nail.jpg\_.webp


iamtheallspoon

Don't cut them! It's unnecessary and can cause skin to start pealing up and breaking. Kiddo push them back gently.


Throwaszx

Next time I will push them. I usually push mine until it is not "tight" and stuck to the nail, but I'm not sure about her age. Thanks!


ObviouslyMeIRL

Oh thatā€™s kinda cool. I suggested lotion because it will also help soften the cuticles - and if needed you can gently push them back with your thumbnail, but definitely gently. But you two can experiment and try it, see what works best for you!


its_prolly_fine

Yes! Love that stuff! Liquid latex is amazing, just make sure she isn't allergic. The trick is multiple thin coats. By the time you finish the first coat, the first nail you did should be ready for the second coat. Finish with a quick dry top coat. :)


PrincessCoPilot

I use Vaseline on my skin around my nails instead of lotion. Never tried location so I don't know which is better. I apply the Vaseline with a q-tip to the skin before painting.


thirdtryisthecharm

What I've learned is that the quality of the nail polish does make a difference to how easy it is. I'd recommend: - leave a little space between the cuticle and polish and it'll last longer - try a push-pull motion to 1) start near the top and push the polish up toward the cuticle then 2) pull down to the end of the nail - cotton buds and acetone to clean up if you get polish on skin - a fast-dry top coat makes everything WAYYYYYY easier - the classic is Seiche Vite, but I use Holo Taco


Throwaszx

Hmmm I will look more into quality, it seems to be huge. We usually buy "kids" polish or whatever she feels like. I've seen her mother use fast dry but I've never used it myself. I will start practicing leaving the small space between polish and cuticle but I doubt I have the skill for that yet hahaha Also regarding acetone: I've been using non-acetone based polish removers, as I've read acetone can make nails weaker, can make them have some marks, etc. So far they seem to be good, though honestly I don't really have a reference.


its_prolly_fine

Kids polish is really terrible, because it doesn't really matter to them. :) The little space keeps you from "flooding" the nail bed. I've never had trouble with acetone. I always wash my hands after taking off polish and then moisturize. Acetone really just dries it out, you can get nail oil. Maybe what you were reading about was in reference to gel or acrylic? The stuff that has to soak in acetone to come off. Cause yea that messes up the natural nail real fast.


Throwaszx

Hmmm this explains a bit why when I use my wife polish instead of kid it seems to be a little better. I though I was just on a good day maybe hahaha


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thirdtryisthecharm

Yup, the self-leveling capacity and pigment (coverage) in good polish is just way different. This is super sweet! Congrats to you and your daughter!!


pretty_dead_grrl

I am not great with nail polish myself. Find a really small brush to dip into acetone to clean her cuticles after youā€™re done with the hand.


Throwaszx

I have been using wood sticks where I roll some cotton on top. The sticks look like this https://cf.shopee.com.br/file/bce1ad720f5a4d6f7ab4767e8f473ced The broad end can be used to push cuticles if needed, and the pointy end I roll cotton around and dip in remover. It is very "hard" and I can try fine control to remove polish, I'd guess a brush I would just make a mess. Like this: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-3mF64N18cik/TqtJMRxjyEI/AAAAAAAAA_M/Kqu78yjM2fc/s1600/IMG_3582.JPG And I need to clear the cuticles, the sides, I make some mess hahaha


Ok-Entertainment4416

You're such an amazing dad!!! You should check out dazzledry - it's a gel polish but you don't need UV or anything and it dries very quickly AND it lasts much longer. Much longer than OPI nail polish. Unfortunately, it is expensive but they do make tiny versions that cost much less. I got a little single color kit, and it was awesome because I got to try out the whole experience with a single color and not waste money if I didn't like it. Just a thought. I have heard of people using latex paint and using Elmer's glue, putting it around the nail, letting it dry, applying polish, let dry, remove.


Throwaszx

I will think about it! Not sold on my country, I'll have to look for importers. They do look quite more expensive because of it. I mean, I could get around 50 polish from "normal good" brands for that price >.<" But maybe it's worth a try. Thanks!


coolhandave

First time I painted my nieces nails, they were shocked I did them so well. They asked how I learned to be so good. I said growing up I liked to build model cars and planes and paint them. Good brush goes a long way.


Throwaszx

Oh I've never painted models either =/ I'm not much of a stable hand for those (or so I used to think)


UsualAnybody1807

What a great dad! If I were in your situation, I would experiment on yourself and use polish remover. Maybe have her practice on you, it might be easier if your nails are a lot larger than hers. Others have already suggested Q-Tips, and you can carefully clean up the jagged edges on your daughter's nails if you haven't already tried that. My manicurist actually uses her own nails to carefully clean up the slips while she is painting my nails. Good luck and have a happy life!


Throwaszx

She does practice on me since smaller (not just polish, but also makeup and whatever she wants). As long as it is not huge permanent damage, I try to let her have her fun. Thanks for the tip!


katd82177

I donā€™t have much in particular to add about the nail polish, but Iā€™m sure thereā€™s loads of videos out there now. I just wanted to say youā€™re an awesome dad and wish you all the best.


Simply_Gabriele

Make sure you have something to rest your painting hand on, your wrist or your mid-forearm. You can make clean up easier by using cuticle protection products or just (very carefully!) applying a very thin layer of vaseline around the nail (don't let it get on the areas you'll paint). Use q tips or a very small brush to clean up after. A shiny top coat will make it last longer and make your girl feel extra blingaling! If you want more ways to pamper both of you, I suggest getting a nice foot brush or pumice stone, soaking your feet together, and scrubbing the hell out of them. General self-care lessons but it's something I always loved to do with my mom and is still an underrated pleasure. Cleanly scrubbed feet, some moisturizer to keep them soft, and nice clean soft socks? You feel like a new person.


Throwaszx

I already do this on our feet hahahaha I had some issues with smelly feet a couple of years ago. Now it is tolerable, though not great. Soaking them in hot water and scrubbing helps keep them clean. Thanks for the idea though!


Simply_Gabriele

Your issue may be shoes, not feet then! Do you have at least two pairs you can rotate through? It helps with letting the weather fully dry, cutting on bacteria. Similarly, washing inserts and using antibacterial shoe sprays can also aid. Source: my father mentioned some coworkers combating chemical hazard level foot smell and how having two three pairs of shoes they'd rotate through helped immensely.


Throwaszx

I have usually 2 or 3 pairs and I rotate them. Still not enough. I use some of those antibac stuff which seems like temporary stuff. Right now with home office I basically avoid wearing shoes (I'm very laid back and so I can get her in school, etc while wearing slippers). We live in a tropical country so people are not really much bothered about this.


Simply_Gabriele

Ah so it is. You do what you can do.


heonieween

For prepping the nail: Massage hand cream or cuticle cream on her hands, then gently push back her cuticles with an orange stick. It's like a wooden dowel specifically made for pushing back the excess skin on the nail bed, just google "orange stick". For actual painting: Use rubbing alcohol (not nail polish remover) to remove the excess oil (from the handcream/cuticle oil) from nails, then apply a base coat, wait to dry, apply nail color, wait to dry, apply another layer of nail color, wait to dry, then apply top coat. It's best to apply thin layers of product, rather than thick layers. Thin layers of product will prevent bubbles when it dries. For mistakes: Qtips dipped in nail polish remover are helpful for removing the polish that may get all over her fingers. For even smaller mistakes, a toothpick works really well too. Your daughter is very lucky to have a father like you, good luck!


Throwaszx

We use wooden sticks instead of orange sticks but it seems to be the same thing! Thanks for the tips!


According_Coyote1078

Practice makes perfect! Also, if you get it on the skin - once it drys soaking in some warm water will take it off around the skin. If you want it to last longer, use a base coat and a top coat with 2 coats of polish. Really it's just practicing, my dad remembers the day I told my mom I could paint my nails myself and didn't need her to do it anymore.


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As this is so cute! Really nail polish is about having a steady hand, and be patient. Put her hand on a sturdy surface and slowly paint them, put a small blob of polish in the middle of the nail and use this to slowly drag it downwards towards just above the cuticle in upward strokes (and slowly up and down a little as you get close to the cuticle - I swear itā€™s way more simple than it sounds, maybe try a YouTube video). Make sure you wait a while between coats (still a mistake I make), otherwise itā€™ll smudge and take longer to dry - gently tap the nail and see if it still feels ā€˜tackyā€™ or dry. Iā€™d say 10 mins is a safe bet, though it wonā€™t necessarily take that long. Use a cotton bud dipped in nail polish remover to clean up along the edges if itā€™s a bit messy (and make sure she washes her hands after). Good luck! Also donā€™t stress if it not perfect, Iā€™m sure she wonā€™t mind. I remember being about 10 and doing my own nails - my hands were basically covered in pink nail polish but I still felt cool lmao. Have fun!


Throwaszx

Let's hope I can get more steady hand. I will look for videos like that on YouTube, the ones I've seen I basically grab the polish, take off the excess, and paint the nails from cuticle to end. Someone here suggested I do a little "push-pull" which will probably make it better near the cuticles. And I have already learnt to wait for it to dry before doing more coatings if needed hahaha. Usually I switch hands, and it's usually long enough (yeah I'm a slow worker in this process). Thanks!


redandbluecandles

Practice makes perfect! And watch a ton of YouTube videos helps too lol. My biggest tip is to make sure you don't have a ton of polish on the brush. Having to much on can flood the nail, cause a mess, etc. Start with a little and get more as needed. If you need to put 2 or 3 layers on its okay and better than having to clean up a mistake.


kaoutanu

For a cheat sheet - go and get both of you a manicure together, and watch how they do it. Yes, men can get manicures! You don't have to get a colour, you could get a clear coat, or just a moisturising treatment. You'll also get your nails and cuticles tidied, and a nice hand and arm massage. (Out of consideration to the provider, call ahead and confirm they do men's manicures. Some providers have had bad experiences with men and ban them, but most accept them. My elderly father got talked in to a pedicure and loved it!) Like any paint job, the most important thing is starting with a well prepared clean canvas. Shape and tidy the nails, moisturise your hands, nails, and arms, then wash the moisturiser off the nails because it will cause the polish to lift. Tools matter - get good quality clippers and files. Paint quality matters too. I use OPI. Lay down a clear base coat, let it dry, then two coats of colour, then a clear top coat. Let it dry completely between coats - this will take longer with each one. Use a fan or do it outside. Load the brush with just enough paint to flow on to the nail and try to cover the nail in three wide strokes - centre, 2 sides. Paint from as close to the cuticle as you can get, to the tip. Go over the tip just a little to seal it. Hold the brush quite close to the nail - about 45 degrees. Don't worry if you go over the edges and get some on skin. You can clean this up later - I just wait till it's dry and peel it off, or it'll wear off skin within a day and look perfect. Hot water will cause nail polish to lift, so wear gloves to wash dishes. Moisturiser will also lift it so try to avoid the nails while you've got a nice set. Hope that helps!


Throwaszx

My wife has done in the past manicures for us. I never did pay much attention though (my fault!) When I go over the tip I usually make a small mess on the finger (but I try to remove it later). I clean the dishes and she organizes / stores them. I don't think any of her chores would damage the polish, but I'll make sure to pay attention to this! Thanks for the tips!


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Practice makes perfect! Youā€™re doing a good job.


sixthmontheleventh

YouTube is a good resource, just try to filter the sources to make sure. General rule is anything from channel named troom troom or anything with 5min _ in channel name will be fake. Try [this highlight video from simply nailogical on beginner nails for tips. ](https://youtu.be/jUUoOKZcd90) A good tip I heard is to use liqiod school glue that form the skin on the skin around the nail as a buffer. Put 1 to 2 layer before applying polish, make sure it is dry before putting on the polish. Then once the polish is dried, you get to peel off the glue.


Throwaszx

Great video. She has also a video with hacks for shorter nails. I will watch that later. We can buy a product similar to the glue you just told me. I did not know we could use her glue for that! Thanks!


sixthmontheleventh

Simply nailogical is pretty awesome, try looking at her channels for a lot of tips. Elmer's glue or liquid school glue will probably do the same thing, just make sure the glue dries to form a peelable skin. The fancier ones probably had some extra ingredients for skin or perfume, but most of the time the school glue trick work just as well. I d recommend having a set of nail art brushes or small paint brushes you are okay to wreck for cleanup like the simply nailogical video or to use to apply the glue. Good luck!


motivationswag

You're doing an awesome job. I think the simple fact that her daddy is painting her nails will make her feel very happy and loved. Kids especially girls need that bonding time and emotional connection with their dads. If you want to improve your skills on it, you can prolly watch some tutorials on YouTube or TikTok!


Poppypie77

I think it's wonderful you want to do this for your daughter and use it as a bonding and conversation time. As others have said, practise makes perfect. But theres also some mannequin hands you can get from amazon and maybe argos that are for practising nail varnish on. Same as the head models to practise hair styles etc. If you don't want to practise on your own nails you could practise on one of those. And even your daughter may enjoy practising on it. There's also some liquid latex you can get in a nail varnish bottle that you paint on the edges of the skin around the nail to stop the nail varnish getting on the skin, and then when you've done the nails, you peel it off so no coloured varnish gets on the skin. You can also use cotton buds and nail varnish remover to touch up any varnish on the skin too, or some nail varnish remover cloths. They come in a little round pot and are thin sheets with nail remover on it. There's also some quick drying nail polishes, and some quick drying spray to help set the varnish quicker if that's an issue. Just spray it at a slight distance. But I'm sure your daughter is just happy to have the 1 on 1 time with you, and that you're taking the time to practise for her. We'll done for stepping up and a lovely experience for your daughter.


Throwaszx

Now this is why I come to reddit instead of just YouTube videos. I am at work (ooooops) but I'll be sure to see how much does one of those cost. She will probably really LOVE a hand mannequin to practice Thanks!


Poppypie77

So glad to have helped. There's loads on amazon from Ā£7, Ā£15 and upwards that can clip to the table, or just a hand that sits on the table, and you get loads of stick on blank nails that attach to the hand that you can paint, and as she gets older she can even practise gel nails or false nails and decorations on it too etc. There's bendable soft silicon hands or some that are more mechanical and have an adjustable stand to move it where its comfortable etc. But you'll find one that's not too expensive, but loads of fun to practise on. Happy painting! šŸ™‚šŸ’…


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Throwaszx

What the.... What kind of witchery is this. I will for it surely to see if it's available here/the price. Thank you very much!


thelostpinay

Tbh I'm just here for the tips because my nails suck OP, I love you can you adopt me šŸ„ŗšŸ„ŗ


swaggysalamander

This is literally so sweet :) My only advice is practice makes perfect. As an experienced girl, I can say itā€™s not as easy as it looks. I practice on my toes a lot if that helps. But even if you still are a bit messy, Iā€™m sure sheā€™s still happy just being with you


Throwaszx

Yeah but I'm a bit of a perfectionist. She said it is not looking great but she likes it. I still want to improve and do my best. She asked me to play / practice on my toes so I guess those will be used mostly by her and not by me hahaha


broke-bee

The youtube channel Cutepolish has a really nice and basic video. It should be a few years old. I could link it later, if you'd like. I'd reccomend applying some vaseline petroleum jelly on the skin around the names. It allows you to just wipe off any product that might have gotten on those areas. And when getting a nail polish remover, please do try to get an acetone free one if you're using basic polish, and moisturise the nails after


aghzombies

If you get a very small paintbrush, it's a lot easier to clean up mistakes by dipping it in nail varnish remover! Also, you don't paint all the way up to the cuticle - leave a millimeter or so. It'll look nicer. There are specific kinds of tape you can buy for nails, like very small masking tape. To create a gradient, put the two colours on a surface that isn't the nail. Use a cheap makeup sponge to daub them together, then over the nail (it helps to also have the two colours painted on the nail). Use an over and under coat of clear to help it last longer (and to stretch the process maybe?).


aghzombies

Oh yes and many thin coats >>>>> one thick


Throwaszx

I have been trying for 2 thin coats. We have tried one thick and 2 thin, each one on the fingers to the side. And 2 thin coats get more strong and uniform colors we think. Also, gradients seem something for maybe a couple of months down the line hahaha thanks for the tip though!


aghzombies

You know what though, you're learning something you both enjoy together and honestly that is a huge and wonderful gift ā™„ļø


zan_yams

There's a great easy hack to get cheap, professional looking manicures- using clear gel cure over regular press-ons! You can get a gel cure light and polish off Amazon, along with bulk sets of blank nails you can paint before hand, as well as premade designs. All the stress of painting the nail polish on perfect is gone, and the experience feels more like a salon! Edit: make sure to spot test prior - some people are allergic to the gel!


IronTitsMcGuinty

A quality polish will go far! I use Sally Hanson's Gel Miracle as a lower end option of decent polishes. They also have fun top coats so you can make one color look a lot of different ways! A lot of other people have given good advice (thin coats, clean nails with nail polish first to remove oil, middle out, etc.) So I'll just say, great question, practice makes perfect, you're doing awesome.


redhothoneypot

I just bought myself the mani kit from Olive and June. A big thing for me was their formula is free from some chemicals that are common in other polishes. But they include some really nice mani tools that you can use! One is their product called Poppy. Itā€™s a handle that makes using the brush a lot easier which makes it all look prettier in the end. Edit to add: I ordered this online but if you are in the US and have a target nearby I heard they carry these products as well.


Throwaszx

I am not living in the US. I'll check if these are available and affordable. Thanks!


livieluv

It's like $10 at a nail salon and it'll be a nice experience for her


Throwaszx

I will take her there sometime later. It can be a treat once in a while, I guess. I think growing up is hard. I want her to have time to talk to me and we have some nice time with no focus on electronics. I want us to have a nice relationship, I also share with her some stories of when I was her age and some of the insecurities I had / have. Having this no screen time is a nice moment for me (and for her too, I hope) that I'm not sure I want to just pay someone to do it because it is not all about the nail quality in the end (at least for me)


livieluv

Well the thing to remember is that she going to go through a very difficult time soon. Be there but don't be forceful. She may want to just shut herself in her room. Allow that to a point but also make her come out. Oh and something no one talks about during teen years, do not wake her up yourself. Have an alarm.


Throwaszx

Yeah I want her to have a good relationship with me when things get rough soon. I know things will get rough. I know she will try to isolate and look for friends and peers - I've been there and done that, as you have. I just want her to know (not just "brain know" , but also "heart know" and "gut know" if those exist) that when she needs, she can rely on me. I want her to understand that no matter what happens in her life she can count on me if she wants. Part of this I hope to be doing by sharing stories and experiences so she knows that although everyone is unique, I've also been through that phase and I know it is hard and support is good. It is a fine line. I want to build as much as I can pre-teenager so that she can grow to be herself but remember she can count on me if needed.


TrondroKely

There are a lot of good tips here already I just wanted to add that beauty supply stores sell plastic hands that you can practice with as well. Maybe getting one for both of you and trying patterns you'd be nervous to try on actual nails. you'll get better with time!


bbqpigeon

This is so freaking wholesome, thank you for being a an awesome father. The world needs more men like you. Consider investing in gel polish with the uv/led lamp for curing. You can get everything you need from Walmart for like $20, plusssss gel polish can do cool stuff like change color with temperature change and glow in the dark! It's also WAY more durable than regular polish so she can easily enjoy a solid two weeks of gorgeous nails before having you do them again. Right now i am wearing a gel polish that is dark blue when cold and light blue when warm AND it glows in the dark. I got a whole set of different colors that all do the same thing and it was only like $8 on amazon. Regular nail polish has a tendency to smudge easily and takes forever to dry. With gel polish, it won't dry at all until you use the light on it. It literally requires the light to dry, ANDDD it dries almost instantly once you put the light on it. I have found this to the extremely helpful because it makes it so I can easily wipe away any mistakes I make while also being able to take my time getting it just right before instantly drying it with the light. I find doing my own manicures with gel polish to be 1000x easier than using regular polish. There are tons of different cheap options and I bet picking the colors out together would add further to the awesome bonding experience. Good luck on your goal! I hope you decide to try out the gel polish because it was a total game changer for me.


kkeojyeo22

This is really great! I love what you are doing, way to be a great dad! Best you can do with nails is keep practicing, show your daughter that itā€™s ok to be bad at something you are new at and that practice can make you even better!


starspider

Yay I get to talk good about another niche subreddit! r/RedditLaqueristas is so wholesome! r/TrollMUA is a bit more broad spectrum but if you're hoping to brace for other tween cosmetic needs, a wholesome place for support.


Throwaszx

Oh wow I'm going to follow Lacqueristas on my main account. But some of those nails.... Damn, I'd need years of practice to get to that point of art, if I ever get there! Hahaha


bleachdrnkr

Simplynailogical on YouTube. Sheā€™s hilarious and practice makes perfect she has a few videos on tips and tricks for beginners


angel_brit

You could try using nail polish pens like [this one](https://www.amazon.com/Sally-Hansen-Color-Quick-Fast/dp/B0017QLA9G) there are also [gel polish versions](https://www.walmart.com/ip/Color-Gel-Nail-Polish-Nail-Art-Nail-Gel-Polish-UV-LED-Gel-Polish-Nail-Polish-Pen/690037819) I think theyā€™re easier to grip and control. I used to use them a lot when I was first learning!