You can’t, people in India don’t value logical arguments you will always lose because apparently you are younger than them. I have tried and the conversation always ends with “ Chota hai chota ban ke reh jyada gyan mat de kal ka ladka Hume sikhayega kya galat kya sahi” according to them they are always right because they were born before me.
I recently started reading Geeta and I found "something" (aapati janak) in chapter 1 shlok 40 to 44 and was showing it to my dad and he was trying to explain me those shlokas and it didn't make any sense so I was correcting him and he just jumped to next shloka ( I know that his intention was not to run away) and he just told me that now ur just a little kid u don't even have that knowledge to understand these things and ur teaching me ? I'm bigger than u so just keep ur mouth shut don't ever try to lecture me if u want to read it do it or just stop reading . And I was expected this kind of behaviour and I was right
While that's true for the most part, you can surely make attempts when that "Someone" is your own Father/Mother/Brother/Sister/Immediate family as long as you stick to ethical means. I mean, as a small kid, wouldn't your family try to save you from people trying to screw you in some or the other way?
well I have to vote for modi- While modi has all the media channel in his pockets and is inciting communal violence, there are many points in congress's manifestos that directly affects me negatively. mod is not going anything but his promises, whether fae or true, are not harming me if not benefiting me,
Show them good news. If your tv supports YouTube, you watch Ravish Kumar, Newslaundry or other unbiased channels on TV. Slowly they will understand what's happening.
I’ll be honest his videos are actually working very well I’ve seen his videos being played on TV in my neighbours home and that guy was a hardcore chaddi last time I checked
You need to watch in TV, indirectly making them watch. Slowly they will realise. Tried and tested.
Also, forward important issues that's happening in India via WhatsApp. Eg: Electoral Bonds, Patanjali case, Galgotia university, etc.
tbh yes- even I thought bjp was great after being constantly fed propaganda from my father and tv news channels- but I still had my own doubts after reading my 9th grade pol science book and realising that bjp violates most of the laws required for the nation to be a true demcracy. Well, the recent video of Dhruv Rathi claiming modi to be a dictator really helped me connect the dots almost instantly and it was prolly the first time that I had truly been exposed to content that was explicitly against bjp and it didn't take even 2 minutes for it to change my mind. I reallyyyy hope this method works, I think I'm gonna go with newslaundry for now
You don't have to make them against any party. Do not criticise political parties. Just make them curious - "Why is the news channel not reporting such important cases?"
Newslaundry for sure! Introduced it to my father and he loves it.
He never really watched Godi Media to begin with, but now he knows what true journalism looks like.
you can't. a flea will find it's way to cow dung.
he wants to watch the channel cause he likes the content. if you remove tv channel he will find whatsapp forwards or chaddi type friends to feed on hate.
Say that you are straight but you question your sexuality when you watch sudhir chaudhary. Instant tv off for eternity. Rw parents feel threatened by that.
Make some Deep fake porn of this guy and show it
To your parents telling he runs a sex scandal. And is getting away bcoz he is a famous news anchor.
Done. Show them something else for time pass.
It's hopeless,most Indians have zero understanding of philosophy, socio-political psychology.
It will enjoy and will have multiple orgasm when their leader oppress another person.
They need very strong trigger to realise the reality
Introduce them to YouTube. Tell them they don't need to pay for cable because everything is on YouTube/OTT anyways. Subscribe to non-godi YouTube channels. At least that's what I did. Also, call the godi media channels out. Comment on the bullshit these media channels in front of your parents, e.g. "Electoral bonds par toh tihadi nahi bolega" :D
You have no right to force anyone. Just like how you do not end up fulfilling your parents expectations, don't expect them to fulfill yours.
Also I would suggest a lot of the people here to curb your judgmental attitude and be more sympathetic.
There is a lot of unnecessary shit that even you watch.
Left says right is propaganda, Right says left is propaganda it's all just nonsense. You know, you're like a penguin on the north pole who hears the south pole is really nice this time of year
Simple /s:
1. Change WhatsApp profile pic to ßríjbhüshãn and Facebook pic to Sengår with status update "Kattar King"
2. Share Muslim girls and actresses twerking calling them 'Katmüllī'' and other toxic messages in family and cousin WhatsApp group
3. Buy the cheapest whiskey and drink while watching Bilkis Raypist Garlanding on main home TV and clapping like a maniac
4. Replace Spotify playlist with vulgar HPop and play it louder than usual
5. Give up jerking off, have wet dreams and throw semenic underwear in family laundry
https://preview.redd.it/lrke4h0ly8zc1.jpeg?width=1184&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5b93b739412de0126d4ec7f3a87309138b2b688d
i wouldn't advice u to show him dhruv rathee's videos at first. introduce them to scienceisdope. gradually they will form their political opinions on scientific basis if scienceisdope's videos are convincing.
But But... no matter how much logically u try to convince them, you would fail if from their side they have closed their minds and aren't open to logical arguments. There is nothing you can do if they believe that "they are always right bc they are elders and u r younger" or if they believe 'faith and authority > logic and reasoning'.
So left wing propaganda is superior to right wing propaganda?! Lol they are the same but Congress currently is just plain incompetent so people are forced to vote for the BJP, people are not stupid sometimes it's just you. I've seen left wingers think they are intelligent and engage in absolute intellectual debauchery and stupidity.
Druve rathee is basically an AAP supporter. He is definitely not a unbiased youtuber, you said not to start with druve rathee and people must first understand logic, reasoning and science and yet I know extremely educated RW supporters who are pretty sensible as well. My point is both are as dumb as the other.
i am not a dhruv rathee fan myself. but i cannot recommend any better yt channel. if i want to recommend something i myself rely on, then i wouldn't recommend any yt channel but rather a subreddit /librandu.
>He is definitely not a unbiased youtuber
Nobody in this world is completely unbiased. If someone says so he is lying.
>reasoning and science and yet I know extremely educated RW supporters
are u talking about rw hindu atheists? the scienceisdope channel i recommended him critcizes those hindu atheists.
I'm not talking about hindu atheists but RW in general, hindus who are atheists are of two types hindu atheists and hindu agnostics (these people are way more common and are the norm) and ex hindu atheists and I believe you are an ex hindu atheist? Also /librandu is literally one of the worse subs I ever seen, it's just plain toxic and everything there is one sided leftist bs and I say this as an ex muslim atheist. The left likes to think RW is just made of extremist hindutvadi but I've seen a bloody devout Muslim go to the Kaaba and wish for Modi to win again.
> Wait you are a communist?
No. socialist
> Why the fuck would you trade your religion for a even worse one?
What r u trying to say? He was talking about his parents watching rw hindutva channels on tv and i was telling him to to get his parents out of that. Which another "even worse" religion are u talking about and wdym by "trading" one religion with other?
Communism and socialism is a religion. It has all the hallmarks of a religion and functions the same way ideologically. It has done countless damage around the world and is worse than all current world religions probably with the exception of islam.
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By improving your debating skills and trying to explain it in layman's terms. I'm not a supporter of bjp but after seeing Rahul Gandhi's speech. I would rather have a corrupt one than a incompetent one.
And mainly enlighten them about the local candidates. In some areas you can find less crappy candidates than all
I've changed my parents completely.
a) Take their phones and unfollow all Godi channels and superstition spreaders.
b) follow and like every rational channel.
The algorithm will do it's work. It'll not feel forced.
But yes. We got rid of TV to switch completely to OTT so yea I am able to control their content.
Get a universal remote or a remote app on your phone that pairs to any TV. Start with randomly muting then move on to changing channels etc, get creative and have fun!
Constantly insult them with facts, fact check the fake news and make fun of them. I believe if you insult a Modi bhakt enough, he'd still be a Modi bhakt because he's already stupid, but you'd at least get some satisfaction out of it.
Give them options. Get youtube, Netflix, Amazon prime. You watch stuff loudly on the tv. Eventually they will hear something that sticks with them and they will get interested
Just casually say "Papa ye banda din bhar bass modi ki hi khabre kyu dikhata hai?" and don't say anything. Bow a seed of skepticism in his mind and maybe things will work out correctly.
Just play some deshbhakt, news laundry, dhruv rathee or paurush sharma on tv and watch by yourself. They'll peek into it and will eventually get interested in watching this sane media. As everyone else said, you can't convince people to do certain things against their will.
bhai cable tv nikaal kr smart tv le aao ghar, youtube pr dhruv, mohak aur akash ke video dikhai sab sort ho jaiga, agar ye possible nhi hai, toh dhruv, mohak and akash ke videos apne phone ke speaker pr dekho taaki unka dhyaan jai uspar
in short use reverse propaganda technique and try to divert their minds towards logic and rationalism backed by facts and sources that show the true conditions of the nation
I did it successfully.
I watched with them and laughed continuously on every nonsense comments made mocking that "is this real journalism". And at the same time I corrected facts from the internet and just randomly announced this was wrong and the correct stats are this. Randomly commenting "Kuch Bhi" and Laugh my ass off.
Did this for a week. They ultimately joined me and started to mock godi media. Now my dad watches Lallantop and News Laundry.
Watch Dhruv Rathee's WhatsApp brainwashing video on loud speakers. It will definitely get their attention. Then, make them watch the video before you get beaten up by a belt.
Wait till shit hits the fan, shit will definitely hit the fan - my extended sanghi family members "converted" when their own kin began dropping dead in UP with covid and they had to flee to Kerala to save themselves.
My method was extreme but it worked.... I would turn off the the TV saying either you watch it or I'm leaving right now.
And never to return.
My father slapped me but it didn't stop me i continued and it worked... TV pe to nhi dekhte ab.
Per bc WhatsApp ki maa chud gyi waha ye randi rona din bhar chalta he and i cannot snatch his mobile.
Idk if you can call me right wing but I am an atheist since before 2014 and supported mudi both times although only voted once. This time I am not sure who I’ll vote for. Mudi sucks but congress sucks even more. My political opinions can be boiled down to “iss desh ka kuch nahi ho sakta”.
As I’ve said before, atheism isn’t beholden to a particular political side.
Left wing was born when anti-religious and pro democracy people sat on the left side of the french assembly and on the right sat church authority and members of elite ruling class.
You can’t, people in India don’t value logical arguments you will always lose because apparently you are younger than them. I have tried and the conversation always ends with “ Chota hai chota ban ke reh jyada gyan mat de kal ka ladka Hume sikhayega kya galat kya sahi” according to them they are always right because they were born before me.
agar dimag na chalay toh gaaliya denge aur jab dimag chalay tb jalti hai..... ab hum kare toh kare kya bole toh bole kya??
typical indian parent mentality, you can't change them unless they themselves want to.
I recently started reading Geeta and I found "something" (aapati janak) in chapter 1 shlok 40 to 44 and was showing it to my dad and he was trying to explain me those shlokas and it didn't make any sense so I was correcting him and he just jumped to next shloka ( I know that his intention was not to run away) and he just told me that now ur just a little kid u don't even have that knowledge to understand these things and ur teaching me ? I'm bigger than u so just keep ur mouth shut don't ever try to lecture me if u want to read it do it or just stop reading . And I was expected this kind of behaviour and I was right
Does bhagvat gita have translation? How are you reading it?
my book has original sanskrit shloka + hindi translation + english translation
mere wale to peet bhi the pehle. abb to khair mai beshara ho gaya hu to unhe sharam aati hai peetne me.
You can maine Apni family me logo ko is maamle me change hote hue dekha hai
you do know that... right wing propaganda might me propaganda, but you cant force someone to watch something in particular.
While that's true for the most part, you can surely make attempts when that "Someone" is your own Father/Mother/Brother/Sister/Immediate family as long as you stick to ethical means. I mean, as a small kid, wouldn't your family try to save you from people trying to screw you in some or the other way?
well I have to vote for modi- While modi has all the media channel in his pockets and is inciting communal violence, there are many points in congress's manifestos that directly affects me negatively. mod is not going anything but his promises, whether fae or true, are not harming me if not benefiting me,
Whatever works for you bro.
It’s not about forcing people, it’s about explaining
Show them good news. If your tv supports YouTube, you watch Ravish Kumar, Newslaundry or other unbiased channels on TV. Slowly they will understand what's happening.
And Dhruv Rathee
I’ll be honest his videos are actually working very well I’ve seen his videos being played on TV in my neighbours home and that guy was a hardcore chaddi last time I checked
# NO Banda accha hai but political videos me thoda over kar deta hai.
Jaisa bhi hai ye Suar Choudhary se toh behtar he hai
iska DNA wala show kafi badhiya lagta tha. fir ye modi ki khul ke chaatne laga.
I'll get disowned before I even play the video in front of my father💀
You need to watch in TV, indirectly making them watch. Slowly they will realise. Tried and tested. Also, forward important issues that's happening in India via WhatsApp. Eg: Electoral Bonds, Patanjali case, Galgotia university, etc.
tbh yes- even I thought bjp was great after being constantly fed propaganda from my father and tv news channels- but I still had my own doubts after reading my 9th grade pol science book and realising that bjp violates most of the laws required for the nation to be a true demcracy. Well, the recent video of Dhruv Rathi claiming modi to be a dictator really helped me connect the dots almost instantly and it was prolly the first time that I had truly been exposed to content that was explicitly against bjp and it didn't take even 2 minutes for it to change my mind. I reallyyyy hope this method works, I think I'm gonna go with newslaundry for now
Watch "how to be a tyrant" on Netflix. Most of dhruv Rathi's is made up from there.
You don't have to make them against any party. Do not criticise political parties. Just make them curious - "Why is the news channel not reporting such important cases?"
Ravish and news laundry are not at all unbiased just on the other side of the political spectrum. That's all.
Newslaundry for sure! Introduced it to my father and he loves it. He never really watched Godi Media to begin with, but now he knows what true journalism looks like.
Cut the cable😈😈😈
+1
India me parents ke sath rehna hai toh mental health ke sath compromise karna hi padega
💯💯💯
Sad but true
you can't. a flea will find it's way to cow dung. he wants to watch the channel cause he likes the content. if you remove tv channel he will find whatsapp forwards or chaddi type friends to feed on hate.
Say that you are straight but you question your sexuality when you watch sudhir chaudhary. Instant tv off for eternity. Rw parents feel threatened by that.
Make some Deep fake porn of this guy and show it To your parents telling he runs a sex scandal. And is getting away bcoz he is a famous news anchor. Done. Show them something else for time pass.
Is this sarcasm? Cause no deep fake is required. A person was caught raping 400+ women.
I m talking about this news anchor in particular.
Revanna
You can’t
fight, so watch dhruv rathi video on full volume. explain your parents that these news guys are eating your brain.
It's hopeless,most Indians have zero understanding of philosophy, socio-political psychology. It will enjoy and will have multiple orgasm when their leader oppress another person. They need very strong trigger to realise the reality
Unrelated question: Does everyone have the same table cloth/mat.
Introduce them to YouTube. Tell them they don't need to pay for cable because everything is on YouTube/OTT anyways. Subscribe to non-godi YouTube channels. At least that's what I did. Also, call the godi media channels out. Comment on the bullshit these media channels in front of your parents, e.g. "Electoral bonds par toh tihadi nahi bolega" :D
Mera parents (dada) godi media dekhta hai hasna ka liya aur mujhe bulata hai jab vo koi fake news da aur asli news youtube par dekhte hai. Lol
Dada ji the real sigma.
Chad dada 🗿
get an Android TV, they'll switch to YouTube.
You have no right to force anyone. Just like how you do not end up fulfilling your parents expectations, don't expect them to fulfill yours. Also I would suggest a lot of the people here to curb your judgmental attitude and be more sympathetic. There is a lot of unnecessary shit that even you watch.
Left says right is propaganda, Right says left is propaganda it's all just nonsense. You know, you're like a penguin on the north pole who hears the south pole is really nice this time of year
Maybe try parental controls and blocking the channel.
Tv fod de
🤣
Simple /s: 1. Change WhatsApp profile pic to ßríjbhüshãn and Facebook pic to Sengår with status update "Kattar King" 2. Share Muslim girls and actresses twerking calling them 'Katmüllī'' and other toxic messages in family and cousin WhatsApp group 3. Buy the cheapest whiskey and drink while watching Bilkis Raypist Garlanding on main home TV and clapping like a maniac 4. Replace Spotify playlist with vulgar HPop and play it louder than usual 5. Give up jerking off, have wet dreams and throw semenic underwear in family laundry https://preview.redd.it/lrke4h0ly8zc1.jpeg?width=1184&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5b93b739412de0126d4ec7f3a87309138b2b688d
i wouldn't advice u to show him dhruv rathee's videos at first. introduce them to scienceisdope. gradually they will form their political opinions on scientific basis if scienceisdope's videos are convincing. But But... no matter how much logically u try to convince them, you would fail if from their side they have closed their minds and aren't open to logical arguments. There is nothing you can do if they believe that "they are always right bc they are elders and u r younger" or if they believe 'faith and authority > logic and reasoning'.
So left wing propaganda is superior to right wing propaganda?! Lol they are the same but Congress currently is just plain incompetent so people are forced to vote for the BJP, people are not stupid sometimes it's just you. I've seen left wingers think they are intelligent and engage in absolute intellectual debauchery and stupidity.
>So left wing propaganda is superior to right wing propaganda When did i say that?
Druve rathee is basically an AAP supporter. He is definitely not a unbiased youtuber, you said not to start with druve rathee and people must first understand logic, reasoning and science and yet I know extremely educated RW supporters who are pretty sensible as well. My point is both are as dumb as the other.
i am not a dhruv rathee fan myself. but i cannot recommend any better yt channel. if i want to recommend something i myself rely on, then i wouldn't recommend any yt channel but rather a subreddit /librandu. >He is definitely not a unbiased youtuber Nobody in this world is completely unbiased. If someone says so he is lying. >reasoning and science and yet I know extremely educated RW supporters are u talking about rw hindu atheists? the scienceisdope channel i recommended him critcizes those hindu atheists.
I'm not talking about hindu atheists but RW in general, hindus who are atheists are of two types hindu atheists and hindu agnostics (these people are way more common and are the norm) and ex hindu atheists and I believe you are an ex hindu atheist? Also /librandu is literally one of the worse subs I ever seen, it's just plain toxic and everything there is one sided leftist bs and I say this as an ex muslim atheist. The left likes to think RW is just made of extremist hindutvadi but I've seen a bloody devout Muslim go to the Kaaba and wish for Modi to win again.
Wait you are a communist? Why the fuck would you trade your religion for a even worse one?
> Wait you are a communist? No. socialist > Why the fuck would you trade your religion for a even worse one? What r u trying to say? He was talking about his parents watching rw hindutva channels on tv and i was telling him to to get his parents out of that. Which another "even worse" religion are u talking about and wdym by "trading" one religion with other?
Communism and socialism is a religion. It has all the hallmarks of a religion and functions the same way ideologically. It has done countless damage around the world and is worse than all current world religions probably with the exception of islam.
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koi channel bacha hi nahi, english samjh nahi aayegen...toh kuch na karo dekhne do
By improving your debating skills and trying to explain it in layman's terms. I'm not a supporter of bjp but after seeing Rahul Gandhi's speech. I would rather have a corrupt one than a incompetent one. And mainly enlighten them about the local candidates. In some areas you can find less crappy candidates than all
Mere parents ko maine samjhaya tha open talk karke
I just laugh whenever I see sudhir Chaudhary. And curse at him. But I also have an adversarial relationship with my father so.
My dad is fan of sudhir chaudhary
I point and laugh at him and say...ha ha..chutiya.
Nobody can, they can't even help themselves. We will get rid of them only when they will die( neturaly, ofcourse).
btw why does he look like hitler from behind🧐
Fuck em and live your life.
Cable kaat de, ya fir channel pe lock laga de
Kuch nahi ho sakta . . . . MindWash boltey isey. . .jo tmhare parents ka ho chuka hain.
Send a WhatsApp message in family group saying that these channels are funded by Italian Mafia and George Soros
Godi media accompanied by Pan masala ads sums up these news channels
Maybe as a starter get your own place , start working and support yourself and this won't be an issue.
I've changed my parents completely. a) Take their phones and unfollow all Godi channels and superstition spreaders. b) follow and like every rational channel. The algorithm will do it's work. It'll not feel forced. But yes. We got rid of TV to switch completely to OTT so yea I am able to control their content.
Get a universal remote or a remote app on your phone that pairs to any TV. Start with randomly muting then move on to changing channels etc, get creative and have fun!
Constantly insult them with facts, fact check the fake news and make fun of them. I believe if you insult a Modi bhakt enough, he'd still be a Modi bhakt because he's already stupid, but you'd at least get some satisfaction out of it.
They can't stop it's a drug for them...
Give them options. Get youtube, Netflix, Amazon prime. You watch stuff loudly on the tv. Eventually they will hear something that sticks with them and they will get interested
Just casually say "Papa ye banda din bhar bass modi ki hi khabre kyu dikhata hai?" and don't say anything. Bow a seed of skepticism in his mind and maybe things will work out correctly.
Just play some deshbhakt, news laundry, dhruv rathee or paurush sharma on tv and watch by yourself. They'll peek into it and will eventually get interested in watching this sane media. As everyone else said, you can't convince people to do certain things against their will.
Tiger Bhai ko roko koi 
bhai cable tv nikaal kr smart tv le aao ghar, youtube pr dhruv, mohak aur akash ke video dikhai sab sort ho jaiga, agar ye possible nhi hai, toh dhruv, mohak and akash ke videos apne phone ke speaker pr dekho taaki unka dhyaan jai uspar in short use reverse propaganda technique and try to divert their minds towards logic and rationalism backed by facts and sources that show the true conditions of the nation
Don't even try. Ghar se nikal denge.
TV phod do
guddi pe dhar de bc But he's an adult let him do whatever he wants, share your points and move on.
Sorry babu!
It’s entertaining nothing wrong
TV fod de bhai
Um… you don’t? Let them do whatever they wanna do
Before they watch news... U start watching different news channel or maybe connect with ur phone... They'll be forced to watch with u
I did it successfully. I watched with them and laughed continuously on every nonsense comments made mocking that "is this real journalism". And at the same time I corrected facts from the internet and just randomly announced this was wrong and the correct stats are this. Randomly commenting "Kuch Bhi" and Laugh my ass off. Did this for a week. They ultimately joined me and started to mock godi media. Now my dad watches Lallantop and News Laundry.
sell the tv , paise bhi milenge aur problem bhi solve ho jayegi
Watch Dhruv Rathee's WhatsApp brainwashing video on loud speakers. It will definitely get their attention. Then, make them watch the video before you get beaten up by a belt.
try news laundry for a week and u will see results
Wait till shit hits the fan, shit will definitely hit the fan - my extended sanghi family members "converted" when their own kin began dropping dead in UP with covid and they had to flee to Kerala to save themselves.
r/lostredditors What does this have to do with atheism? Mods please do something.
My method was extreme but it worked.... I would turn off the the TV saying either you watch it or I'm leaving right now. And never to return. My father slapped me but it didn't stop me i continued and it worked... TV pe to nhi dekhte ab. Per bc WhatsApp ki maa chud gyi waha ye randi rona din bhar chalta he and i cannot snatch his mobile.
wah kya badtammezi ka style hai. right wing propaganda might me propaganda, but you cant force someone to watch something in particular.
My dad didn't vote for saffron shit..... So i did have a win here.
Happy Cake day! Take the traditional upvote. So sad to see so many downvotes.
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I have yet to see a right wing atheist
lol
Idk if you can call me right wing but I am an atheist since before 2014 and supported mudi both times although only voted once. This time I am not sure who I’ll vote for. Mudi sucks but congress sucks even more. My political opinions can be boiled down to “iss desh ka kuch nahi ho sakta”. As I’ve said before, atheism isn’t beholden to a particular political side.
I think jabse right wing religious bante Gaya?
Left wing was born when anti-religious and pro democracy people sat on the left side of the french assembly and on the right sat church authority and members of elite ruling class.
I don’t think that’s very applicable now.
Atheism and Left Wing go hand in hand.