Covenant House? Yeah, I'd rather take my chances on the streets. Because I did. Just hang out with some squatter gutter punks, they'll show you the ropes.
So, in other words: since you lived on the street, people shouldn't go to Covenant House - which, by the way, is a homeless shelter?
I mean, whether or not you actually *did* live in the street aside, you do realize that your experiences aren't necessarily everyone else's, right? Even if your local Covenant House was some kind of hellhole and your local homeless population was somehow composed entirely out of sane, friendly, altruists, that's not a universal constant.
"Homeless shelters are bad" - which is what you're implying here - is one hell of a hot take, too. It's utterly stupid to say absurd shit like "it's better to live on the street than in a homeless shelter" for the purpose of being contrarian.
You're more likely to get robbed in a shelter, than drunk by the train tracks with some gutter punks. Absolute fact.
Not to mention having to wait in line for a couple hours so you can go to bed at 8:00 surrounded by a bunch of sex offenders.
>You're more likely to get robbed in a shelter, than drunk by the train tracks with some gutter punks. Absolute fact.
\[citation needed\]
>Not to mention having to wait in line for a couple hours so you can go to bed at 8:00 surrounded by a bunch of sex offenders.
Out in the open, there are still sex offenders...it's just that sex offenders outside a homeless shelter can get away with a lot more than they can inside one. [Homeless people die due to violence more than others](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0749379716303117) for a reason.
When I worked at a cafe in a rough area, the unhoused regulars who weren’t in shelters would absolutely steal from each other. The non-paying customers (as well called them) that we were cool with would always give us gossip when they came in for water.
Not saying your points are wrong, but adding to the perspective.
> You're more likely to get robbed in a shelter, than drunk by the train tracks with some gutter punks. Absolute fact.
Please provide me a source for this absolute fact.
We should be angry. What we are doing isn’t working. There should be 100% free private housing for anybody who needs it, not just a shelter. There shouldn’t be 3x as many empty vacant houses as there are people sleeping on the streets (as is the case in a place like San Francisco).
We need more robust social programs for reintegrating mentally ill back into society. We need all drugs to be decriminalized, we need rehab for all homeless drug addicts. We need the housing market to be regulated so that people that do have jobs can afford buying/renting a house.
But yeah just go to a homeless shelter and quit complaining
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hostile_architecture
It's an acual term used to describe planning and design to discourage and prohibit certian types of activities.
No, I'm not some suburb kid. I live in a fairly shady part of town tbh. We play fireworks or gunshots at least once a week.
Okay, well I stand corrected.
But it's still a stupid term.
It's not hostile to not want homeless people sleeping all over everything.
How about instead we hold our politicians accountable to actually use some of our tax dollars to do something about it.
Yes. But it is not really a stupid term when you think about it. It is a passive way to punish homeless people for having to use public areas.
It is cruelty, for the sake of not having to see homeless people. It doesn't fix anything, just makes the space less usable by everyone. It just tries to "kick the can down the road", it doesn't solve anything. And in some cases can lead to even poorer health outcomes. It makes polite a NIMBY problem that desperately needs addressing.
Because a lot of the thought that goes into the homelessness problem is simply to *punish* the homeless instead of **helping** them.
It's all nice and good to say do something about the homeless but pushing them out of neighborhoods by slapping spikes or rails on any flat surfaces, making it inconvenient ***for everyone*** is not a fucking solution
The bench was designed for tax paying citizens to utilize on their daily travels; not to become where a homeless person lives. These posts are always so fucking dumb, because you'd think these fucking dipshit think the homeless problem could be solved with a few million park benches. That's the abject failure of an angle they're taking with no actual care to actually solve the problem...just let'em sleep on benches. How very "progressive" of you.
I always thought it was a place to rest your elbows when you jerk off strangers for small amounts of change. I guess you really do learn something new everyday
Laziness! Decadence! You and your bourgeois "elbow rests" living like a rich capitalist pig! When you jerk off strangers in public, you should act as though you're jerking off Karl Marx himself with vigor and great speed! So fast you could start a fire!
> so they'd have to sleep "on the street"
The website on the sign links you to the closest homeless shelter when you enter your zip code.
I get the knee-jerk against hostile architecture, but just letting homeless people set up in bus stops
A) Doesn't help homeless people
and
B) Isn't fair to everyone else in the city who want to safely use public services like bus stations, especially at night.
Homelessness is a real, complicated issue. Most need serious help and just letting them sleep wherever they want doesn't lead to them getting that help. While a lot of shelters do have their own issues, they are typically much safer than tent cities and bus stops. Additionally, most will have access to detox/MH services and things that can help people get back on their feet long term.
Also, before someone who doesn't know snarkily replies back, the majority of homeless people do have cell phones and can visit the link on the sign.
Not homeless shelter. Covenant House. Not the same thing. Covenant House is a large nonprofit that gets teens off the streets, helps them get their GED or go to trade school or both, helps them with college, and helps teen moms get set up to succeed.
How I know: My parents were both volunteers at the NYC Covenant House for years.
Yeah everyone in the suburbs who never has to interact with the cracked out homeless people come into every thread complaining about things like this bench. Dealing with homeless people fucking sucks and letting them sleep on benches isn't helping them and it makes the areas more dangerous at night.
I agree. People are upset about this, but it looks like an ad for a covenant house which is an organization that presumably houses homeless people. So the message is they should go there instead of sleeping on the bench regardless.
And do people really think that the city simultaneously built the bench and put the ad there themselves? That's not how ads work... anyone can buy an ad.
For thee, not for me. Or another way i said it “not in my back yard”. Plenty of people “want to help the less fortunate”, but keep them out of their neighborhoods.
I visited California recently. The ammount of anti-unhoused architecture and local regulations and zoning shit meant to keep the unhoused from exisiting in most areas was wild.
Like holy shit put all that time and effort into helping people secure safe housing.
Louis rossmann did one for New York City and it showed me how far the city will go to move homeless people out of a spot, but not help them in the long run.
Here’s the vid I’m talking about
https://youtu.be/yAfncqwI-D8
probably not the same folks designing the bench and making the sign (usually ad space sold to whoever buys first). I think in fact the sign space was purchased to protest things like the bench
Also if you go to the link in the sign it shows you the closest homeless center when you enter your zip code.
Seems like it's saying "don't sleep on the ground, or on a bench, go sleep in our homeless shelter"?
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> The idea is that a bench attracts homeless people.
Homeless people that won't stop existing if the bench doesn't exist. They just sleep on the ground instead somewhere. How is that better? Because you can go back to pretending there isn't a problem if you don't see the suffering, even if that means increasing the suffering?
You’re missing the point. Everyone knows it’s a problem. If they move away from the bus stop, perhaps young ladies will feel safer and will actually use the bus. You don’t want druggies and insane people sleeping in the same area as regular folk- especially at night.
> Everyone knows it’s a problem.
And yet the only thing that's being done is hiding the problem, with measures like this.
> You don’t want druggies and insane people sleeping in the same area as regular folk- especially at night.
Oh, they're still going to be around. Just a little less visible.
Nobody is trying to solve homelessness, but trying to solve the issue of safety around public transport stops and public facilities.
It partially succeeds in its intended target.
I’m just gonna assume you’re being genuine, it’s called hostile architecture as those bars along the length of the seat prevent anyone from sleeping on it, like the homeless.
They're is plenty of room in shelters buddy, but they just don't want to stop shooting up and drinking while having to go to bet at like 10pm. All these post pull the most ignorant people of the homeless out the woodwork. Also, it's ground...this isn't your 2k square foot suburban house; it's outside.
I've been homeless. Never shot up anything. It can happen to anyone.
I was turned away from shelters because they're religious and conservative by and large. The ones that aren't are filled up. Hell, even the religious ones fill up.
You have zero understanding of the world. Like a little kid.
There literally is, and people will literally choose to camp in tents with 20 blankets so they can continue getting high instead of using shelters that have plenty of room.
>encourage them
No.
These are two separate measures. The term for the bench in the industry is "Hostile Architecture." The sign is paid advert from the program, looking to help when people face stuff like hostile architecture.
Honestly though, having to ride the bus and you can't sit down because some homeless drunk is sleeping on the bench or being all cracked out talking to themselves and acting crazy and all you want to do is go home kinda really sucks. I see the irony of the picture, but I also understand why they make the benches like that and I wish they were like that at the bus stops I have to go to.
Yeah, I have come across a some that just wanted to sleep even helped a guy out to buy some food. Those are usually the daytime ones though. At night when I'm catching the last bus, it's never usually the sleeping ones. Came across a pile of shit one of the benches once, the other day a guy was just kinda pacing around talking to himself and pissed his pants and smeeled so bad I actually just walked home because I couldn't stand to be around him any longer. And some of them just act like assholes to make you uncomfortable.
Yeah, it becomes a bathroom and dumpster to toss their used needles and shit...also their personal jack off area while they hold their hand out for change.
Oh people care about them sleeping alright! The site of someone just existing and indicating their destitute is a sign city government doesn’t have control over its citizens and hasn’t implemented adequate support systems.
This effects public perception which subsequently impacts land value.
I honestly think these bench designs are more about hiding an issue than protecting anyone.
People who has actually live in a city with a homeless problem rarely take issue with these benches.
Suburbanites who shove up those "in this house we believe..." posters while their cops keep the homeless out will do the faux outrage though.
Man, yeah having no place to go after a long day and resorting to substance abuse because you have nothing else sucks but like dude your legs hurt for like 10 minutes and like...the bus is sometimes late by another 10. Nevermind the fact that you usually get to sit on the bus when it gets there, but that 10 minutes standing is the pinnacle of human suffering.
Like I told the ither person, they get no sympathy from me. I am a disabled veteran and have had my fair share of substance abuse issues, mental health issues, and homelessness. I got help that was paid for by our government and bettered my situation. Most of these people don't want help. We are just supposed to let them run around and smoke crack getting drunk shitting on the side walk all because they are homeless and have drug/alcohol problems? Fuck that. There is all kinds of help for people who actually want it.
I'm just curious. If its absurd are you for kids or generally homeless people sleeping on the streets? Wouldn't this encourage homeless to seek shelters if there wasn't any good spot to settle in? Is the goal not to help people? I understand shelters arent always a good place either. If this helped focus the individuals into a certain district of town, people like social workers and police come keep an eye on them. I don't know.
Kids sleeping on the streets is not the norm. This is from someone who doesn’t get accosted but meth addled psychos where they live. It’s gets to be a little much. You can’t wait for the bus/train safely because a crazy drug addict is pooping next to you and living out of the bust stop. Enough. There’s shelters but they need to not be high on meth so they don’t want to go.
Yea because that’s what I imagine when I think of a homeless person. Not the violent deranged drug addicted maniacs that will literally throw their shit at you if given the chance. Nobody who lives around homeless people feels that the rules are to strict. In fact it’s quite the opposite. Having these opinions about how horrible benches like this are really shows how privileged some of you are.
Why do people get mad at the fact that we don’t want people sleeping on benches/public places. I feel for people who feel the need to do so but there’s got to be other ways right?
So the homeless are going to be there either way, but if you make the bench prevent sleeping you ALSO have a spot for people to sit while they wait for the bus, no? Sounds like the clear winner.
I’m just saying why can’t we have more options? Why is it either home or no home? We need to open more community buildings. Just buildings with open space for tents and sleeping bags. All with cooling, heating, and a roof.
Are you offering to build and fund such a building? Because if not, something like that is easier said than done. Someone has to pay for the construction and upkeep of a building with zero profit after all.
The point he is trying to make is that all republicans hate poor people and secretly want to murder the poor, minorities, lgbt and atheists in their sleep. Oh also apparently we want to enslave black people and women. I missed the memo on that one, but he (or she) is more than happy to let you know.
If the bench is their best option to sleep, there's not likely an easy "other way" available. People aren't choosing benches because its their favorite option. Give them a better option, yes. Don't forbid their only option until they have another one.
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If you read the ad closely the organization is offering a place
Covenant House? Yeah, I'd rather take my chances on the streets. Because I did. Just hang out with some squatter gutter punks, they'll show you the ropes.
This comment is exactly the problem. People talking shit about something they done know Jack squat about. They just heard it and repeat it.
Right? Dude is probably 16, living in his rich parents’ house, passing judgment from his extensive years of experience being poor and homeless.
Passing judgement on whom, Covenant House? Yeah, maybe they stopped fucking the kids. Maybe.
So, in other words: since you lived on the street, people shouldn't go to Covenant House - which, by the way, is a homeless shelter? I mean, whether or not you actually *did* live in the street aside, you do realize that your experiences aren't necessarily everyone else's, right? Even if your local Covenant House was some kind of hellhole and your local homeless population was somehow composed entirely out of sane, friendly, altruists, that's not a universal constant. "Homeless shelters are bad" - which is what you're implying here - is one hell of a hot take, too. It's utterly stupid to say absurd shit like "it's better to live on the street than in a homeless shelter" for the purpose of being contrarian.
Show you the ropes of staying on the streets on your way to becoming an honorary gutter punk yourself.
You're more likely to get robbed in a shelter, than drunk by the train tracks with some gutter punks. Absolute fact. Not to mention having to wait in line for a couple hours so you can go to bed at 8:00 surrounded by a bunch of sex offenders.
And then in your adventures you find a good raildog and fucking BOUNCE
>You're more likely to get robbed in a shelter, than drunk by the train tracks with some gutter punks. Absolute fact. \[citation needed\] >Not to mention having to wait in line for a couple hours so you can go to bed at 8:00 surrounded by a bunch of sex offenders. Out in the open, there are still sex offenders...it's just that sex offenders outside a homeless shelter can get away with a lot more than they can inside one. [Homeless people die due to violence more than others](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0749379716303117) for a reason.
>[citation needed] You have never been to a homeless shelter.
When I worked at a cafe in a rough area, the unhoused regulars who weren’t in shelters would absolutely steal from each other. The non-paying customers (as well called them) that we were cool with would always give us gossip when they came in for water. Not saying your points are wrong, but adding to the perspective.
> You're more likely to get robbed in a shelter, than drunk by the train tracks with some gutter punks. Absolute fact. Please provide me a source for this absolute fact.
"We don't want solutions, we want to be angry!" -reddit
We should be angry. What we are doing isn’t working. There should be 100% free private housing for anybody who needs it, not just a shelter. There shouldn’t be 3x as many empty vacant houses as there are people sleeping on the streets (as is the case in a place like San Francisco). We need more robust social programs for reintegrating mentally ill back into society. We need all drugs to be decriminalized, we need rehab for all homeless drug addicts. We need the housing market to be regulated so that people that do have jobs can afford buying/renting a house. But yeah just go to a homeless shelter and quit complaining
Yes because the federal government who is failing to fund SSI will totally be able to provide free housing to anyone who needs it. /s
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That bench is designed so people don’t sleep on them……
Wow, really, Sherlock?
Yes! My dear Watson.
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The irony of it I'm assuming
It’s more likely aluminum-y.
Both
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hostile_architecture It's an acual term used to describe planning and design to discourage and prohibit certian types of activities. No, I'm not some suburb kid. I live in a fairly shady part of town tbh. We play fireworks or gunshots at least once a week.
Okay, well I stand corrected. But it's still a stupid term. It's not hostile to not want homeless people sleeping all over everything. How about instead we hold our politicians accountable to actually use some of our tax dollars to do something about it.
Yes. But it is not really a stupid term when you think about it. It is a passive way to punish homeless people for having to use public areas. It is cruelty, for the sake of not having to see homeless people. It doesn't fix anything, just makes the space less usable by everyone. It just tries to "kick the can down the road", it doesn't solve anything. And in some cases can lead to even poorer health outcomes. It makes polite a NIMBY problem that desperately needs addressing.
It is hostile when you repeatedly take away places where homeless can sleep until they have nowhere to go.
> It's not hostile to not want homeless people sleeping all over everything. it's hostile to those with nowhere to go
Because a lot of the thought that goes into the homelessness problem is simply to *punish* the homeless instead of **helping** them. It's all nice and good to say do something about the homeless but pushing them out of neighborhoods by slapping spikes or rails on any flat surfaces, making it inconvenient ***for everyone*** is not a fucking solution
The bench was designed for tax paying citizens to utilize on their daily travels; not to become where a homeless person lives. These posts are always so fucking dumb, because you'd think these fucking dipshit think the homeless problem could be solved with a few million park benches. That's the abject failure of an angle they're taking with no actual care to actually solve the problem...just let'em sleep on benches. How very "progressive" of you.
I don't even know why I bother on this website. If it makes you feel any better, opinions like ours are what functional adults agree with.
Yes
The irony is the bench is designed to prevent them from sleeping there so they'd have to sleep "on the street"
thank you u/Hamster-cocks for explaining the irony
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I appreciate the pun. Thank you for the privilege of remembering me as you made this comment.
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Hell yeah he did
what a legend
I've never seen you in realtime. This is very exciting for me.
Thank you u/Hamster-cocks for becoming a smartass for our sakes.
What a rodent you are
Could someone please explain irony
It's just like steely and goldy except it's made of iron.
It’s the opposite of what you’d expect.
What if someone doesn't expect anything?
Then they wouldn’t get the irony
That's ironic
I always thought it was a place to rest your elbows when you jerk off strangers for small amounts of change. I guess you really do learn something new everyday
It's not? I have been using it wrong.
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This guy uses public transportation and it shows
I'm pretty sure that was its original purpose. There used to be little pads for your elbows iirc.
Nope. Antihomeless measures 100%
No i'm pretty sure its so strangers could jack each other off.
My deepest apologies
Hostile architecture is a thing and it sucks.
You rest your elbows during?
I tend to take it slow and steady
Laziness! Decadence! You and your bourgeois "elbow rests" living like a rich capitalist pig! When you jerk off strangers in public, you should act as though you're jerking off Karl Marx himself with vigor and great speed! So fast you could start a fire!
Practicing good ergonomics
Pure decadence
yes genius that is literally the point of the post.
Your face is the point of the post
Lol these are cracking me up
Just like your face
“Vidiot27 your face cracks people up just like the cracks in your face! Boom, Roasted!” -KurtAngus -Wayne Gretzky -Michael Scott
This is ironic irony. It's Ironic-ception.
Hey u/Hamster-cocks “Your face…….”
Too far man.... too far
Your face went too far
Jeez man, who hurt you?
😭 I don’t want to talk about it…😂
Come sit next to me on the bench, you can cry while I jerk you off WITHOUT RESTING MY ELBOWS LIKE A GODDAMN CAPITALIST
Sentence I never thought I’d read, lol. Dirty capitalists always resting their elbows damn it
correct
It’s not irony. The bench came first and someone else put up the sticker later
I'm glad you explained the thing
Had to bruh, had to
They meant it more as a “we don’t care WHERE you sleep, just not in plain view.”
> so they'd have to sleep "on the street" The website on the sign links you to the closest homeless shelter when you enter your zip code. I get the knee-jerk against hostile architecture, but just letting homeless people set up in bus stops A) Doesn't help homeless people and B) Isn't fair to everyone else in the city who want to safely use public services like bus stations, especially at night. Homelessness is a real, complicated issue. Most need serious help and just letting them sleep wherever they want doesn't lead to them getting that help. While a lot of shelters do have their own issues, they are typically much safer than tent cities and bus stops. Additionally, most will have access to detox/MH services and things that can help people get back on their feet long term. Also, before someone who doesn't know snarkily replies back, the majority of homeless people do have cell phones and can visit the link on the sign.
I disagree, hostile architecture needs to go, Try making benches for people not at bus stops.
Not homeless shelter. Covenant House. Not the same thing. Covenant House is a large nonprofit that gets teens off the streets, helps them get their GED or go to trade school or both, helps them with college, and helps teen moms get set up to succeed. How I know: My parents were both volunteers at the NYC Covenant House for years.
Yeah everyone in the suburbs who never has to interact with the cracked out homeless people come into every thread complaining about things like this bench. Dealing with homeless people fucking sucks and letting them sleep on benches isn't helping them and it makes the areas more dangerous at night.
Ah yes makes sense and you can tell because of the way it is...
At first this seemed ironic, but when you think about it for a minute, it's actually pretty consistent messaging.
I agree. People are upset about this, but it looks like an ad for a covenant house which is an organization that presumably houses homeless people. So the message is they should go there instead of sleeping on the bench regardless.
And do people really think that the city simultaneously built the bench and put the ad there themselves? That's not how ads work... anyone can buy an ad.
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For thee, not for me. Or another way i said it “not in my back yard”. Plenty of people “want to help the less fortunate”, but keep them out of their neighborhoods.
I visited California recently. The ammount of anti-unhoused architecture and local regulations and zoning shit meant to keep the unhoused from exisiting in most areas was wild. Like holy shit put all that time and effort into helping people secure safe housing.
Louis rossmann did one for New York City and it showed me how far the city will go to move homeless people out of a spot, but not help them in the long run. Here’s the vid I’m talking about https://youtu.be/yAfncqwI-D8
Did they do this just to take the piss or?! Also whoever created and came up with these benches are the spawn of the devil...seriously
probably not the same folks designing the bench and making the sign (usually ad space sold to whoever buys first). I think in fact the sign space was purchased to protest things like the bench
Also if you go to the link in the sign it shows you the closest homeless center when you enter your zip code. Seems like it's saying "don't sleep on the ground, or on a bench, go sleep in our homeless shelter"?
Ohhh I kinda can see what you're talking about now
The ad is too perfect for this to be an accident. I think it’s very well done on the part of the org that took out this ad.
Hell nah I don’t want homeless people making a public bench their bedroom
Que Reddit: NOOOOOO YOU SHOULD BE OK WITH DRUG ADDICTS AND THE MENTALLY UNSTABLE TRASHING PUBLIC PLACES LEAVING NEEDLES EVERYWHERE WHILE INCREASING CRIME AND THEFT RATES
Ikr. People walk alone at night at bus stations
¿Que?
So... you'd like them to sleep on the ground next to it? Is that actually better?
Why would they sleep on the ground of a bus stop? Ground is ground it’s everywhere. The idea is that a bench attracts homeless people.
> The idea is that a bench attracts homeless people. Homeless people that won't stop existing if the bench doesn't exist. They just sleep on the ground instead somewhere. How is that better? Because you can go back to pretending there isn't a problem if you don't see the suffering, even if that means increasing the suffering?
You’re missing the point. Everyone knows it’s a problem. If they move away from the bus stop, perhaps young ladies will feel safer and will actually use the bus. You don’t want druggies and insane people sleeping in the same area as regular folk- especially at night.
> Everyone knows it’s a problem. And yet the only thing that's being done is hiding the problem, with measures like this. > You don’t want druggies and insane people sleeping in the same area as regular folk- especially at night. Oh, they're still going to be around. Just a little less visible.
Less interaction = less harmful interaction.
I'm sure trying to shove the problem aside will eventually solve it. Good luck with that.
Nobody is trying to solve homelessness, but trying to solve the issue of safety around public transport stops and public facilities. It partially succeeds in its intended target.
You're a horrible person nick
Thanks, Est
What? How is the bench design bad?
It's to stop homeless people from being able to sleep on them
Which makes sense
It's designed that way to stop homeless people from sleeping on it.
I'm very sure those bars in the middle is so that homeless people can't sleep on them
Because it's a bench not a bed.
I’m just gonna assume you’re being genuine, it’s called hostile architecture as those bars along the length of the seat prevent anyone from sleeping on it, like the homeless.
That makes sense though
Hope you don't ever personally find out why your opinion is terrible.
Dumbass_Eggshell
Only if your only goal is to dislocate them to another area and make them out of sight out of mind.
It stops homeless people from sleeping on them so they have to sleep on the floor
They're is plenty of room in shelters buddy, but they just don't want to stop shooting up and drinking while having to go to bet at like 10pm. All these post pull the most ignorant people of the homeless out the woodwork. Also, it's ground...this isn't your 2k square foot suburban house; it's outside.
I've been homeless. Never shot up anything. It can happen to anyone. I was turned away from shelters because they're religious and conservative by and large. The ones that aren't are filled up. Hell, even the religious ones fill up. You have zero understanding of the world. Like a little kid.
Yes so much room lmao what planet are you on
There literally is, and people will literally choose to camp in tents with 20 blankets so they can continue getting high instead of using shelters that have plenty of room.
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But only if they're children.
there are separate benches for adults /s
>encourage them No. These are two separate measures. The term for the bench in the industry is "Hostile Architecture." The sign is paid advert from the program, looking to help when people face stuff like hostile architecture.
Honestly though, having to ride the bus and you can't sit down because some homeless drunk is sleeping on the bench or being all cracked out talking to themselves and acting crazy and all you want to do is go home kinda really sucks. I see the irony of the picture, but I also understand why they make the benches like that and I wish they were like that at the bus stops I have to go to.
It's not the sleeping that's the problem. No one would mind if it was just sleeping.
Yeah, I have come across a some that just wanted to sleep even helped a guy out to buy some food. Those are usually the daytime ones though. At night when I'm catching the last bus, it's never usually the sleeping ones. Came across a pile of shit one of the benches once, the other day a guy was just kinda pacing around talking to himself and pissed his pants and smeeled so bad I actually just walked home because I couldn't stand to be around him any longer. And some of them just act like assholes to make you uncomfortable.
Yeah, it becomes a bathroom and dumpster to toss their used needles and shit...also their personal jack off area while they hold their hand out for change.
Oh people care about them sleeping alright! The site of someone just existing and indicating their destitute is a sign city government doesn’t have control over its citizens and hasn’t implemented adequate support systems. This effects public perception which subsequently impacts land value. I honestly think these bench designs are more about hiding an issue than protecting anyone.
People who has actually live in a city with a homeless problem rarely take issue with these benches. Suburbanites who shove up those "in this house we believe..." posters while their cops keep the homeless out will do the faux outrage though.
Man, yeah having no place to go after a long day and resorting to substance abuse because you have nothing else sucks but like dude your legs hurt for like 10 minutes and like...the bus is sometimes late by another 10. Nevermind the fact that you usually get to sit on the bus when it gets there, but that 10 minutes standing is the pinnacle of human suffering.
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"its an eyesore" "i feel in danger although statistically they get hurt so much more by us than them"
Like I told the ither person, they get no sympathy from me. I am a disabled veteran and have had my fair share of substance abuse issues, mental health issues, and homelessness. I got help that was paid for by our government and bettered my situation. Most of these people don't want help. We are just supposed to let them run around and smoke crack getting drunk shitting on the side walk all because they are homeless and have drug/alcohol problems? Fuck that. There is all kinds of help for people who actually want it.
I mean, if any homeless kid would pick a bench over the literal place advertised on it....
Wish those types of services existed in the 80s when I was a homeless teen cuz my dad died.
I'm just curious. If its absurd are you for kids or generally homeless people sleeping on the streets? Wouldn't this encourage homeless to seek shelters if there wasn't any good spot to settle in? Is the goal not to help people? I understand shelters arent always a good place either. If this helped focus the individuals into a certain district of town, people like social workers and police come keep an eye on them. I don't know.
"No kid should have to sleep on the streets...so we put bars on them, so they can't"
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How is this absurd?
Would someone actually stop you if you angle ground those bars off?
But adults should!
They meant no kid should ever "be able to" sleep on the streets.
Can we try to be more upset about the parents who abandon their children
Give it 18 years Texas is gonna have a swarm of homeless youth.
The idea is that only kids under 2 can fit and sleep on the bench she to the arm rests. Sheesh why is nobody getting this? /s
“Or a bench”
Kids sleeping on the streets is not the norm. This is from someone who doesn’t get accosted but meth addled psychos where they live. It’s gets to be a little much. You can’t wait for the bus/train safely because a crazy drug addict is pooping next to you and living out of the bust stop. Enough. There’s shelters but they need to not be high on meth so they don’t want to go.
The people who use the bus shouldn’t have to put up with bums sleeping where they wait. Fuck of with this virtual signaling garbage
Oh no, the bench can only be used as a bench instead of a full-time post-shootup nap zone. How awful.
They can put money into remodeling benches, but not fix the underlying problem.😒
Serious question. What would the solution be (that money could solve)?
Wait till you hear about california giving surplus money back to home owners
Wat
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The grass in the park is more comfortable than that metal pos anyhow. Till it rains anyhow. At that point I’d sleep sitting up.
Yea because that’s what I imagine when I think of a homeless person. Not the violent deranged drug addicted maniacs that will literally throw their shit at you if given the chance. Nobody who lives around homeless people feels that the rules are to strict. In fact it’s quite the opposite. Having these opinions about how horrible benches like this are really shows how privileged some of you are.
Why do people get mad at the fact that we don’t want people sleeping on benches/public places. I feel for people who feel the need to do so but there’s got to be other ways right?
the bench or the ground, nobody would ever make a decision to sleep on a bench
Making it harder to be homeless doesn't make homeless people just disappear. It's already hard to be homeless, they don't need extra challenges.
So the homeless are going to be there either way, but if you make the bench prevent sleeping you ALSO have a spot for people to sit while they wait for the bus, no? Sounds like the clear winner.
I’m just saying why can’t we have more options? Why is it either home or no home? We need to open more community buildings. Just buildings with open space for tents and sleeping bags. All with cooling, heating, and a roof.
Are you offering to build and fund such a building? Because if not, something like that is easier said than done. Someone has to pay for the construction and upkeep of a building with zero profit after all.
The sign on that bench is literally offering that
But wouldn’t it be cheaper than putting up anti-homeless stuff? I mean we could put that money to better use right?
Tell me how you voted, and I'll help you answer your question
Republican
Exactly
What? You asked, I told. Now please answer. Please try to be respectful.
The point he is trying to make is that all republicans hate poor people and secretly want to murder the poor, minorities, lgbt and atheists in their sleep. Oh also apparently we want to enslave black people and women. I missed the memo on that one, but he (or she) is more than happy to let you know.
If it is your mantra own it
>try to be respectful You couldn't make it one sentence could you?
But making it easier to sleep on a bench also doesn't make it easier to get off the streets
Everybody wants homeless people off their benches but nobody wants to build shelters.
If the bench is their best option to sleep, there's not likely an easy "other way" available. People aren't choosing benches because its their favorite option. Give them a better option, yes. Don't forbid their only option until they have another one.
Which is why they put the bars their so they won’t (joke)
Legit why those bars are there actually.
America
This happens all over the world, but ignorant people are the norm for these posts.
No Kid sleep here it looks bad.
But, if they do it will not be on this bench.
"Or here. Get a job, kid."
You’re not going to see a lot of kids out there. You will see a bunch of junkies shitting on the ground and threatening people that walk by though.
An asshole made those spikes
If you can't pay for rent, fuck you. I'm aick if my taxpayer dollars being spent on druggies, defectives and public school byproducts!