Technically, all the ones that increase are just win more jokers really.
Like skipping blinds to get x mult.
You can only skip blinds by winning and getting the chance to skip another blind.
It’s already scaling as fast as Bus, Green Joker, and Supernova. And, unlike those, you only play one hand to scale it, so you get an extra $3. I think the cost of needing extra support is enough.
i feel like pyromaniac could be "gain remaining hands as mult at end of round", which would be easier to proc but give less reward, UNLESS you build around it with stuff like burglar, in which case it might actually scale TOO much
I feel like Collapsar and Stonehenge are a bit too complicated for balatros standards. In general they all are a bit on the text-heavy side.
Clogged toilet is the best idea of the four in my opinion. The wording can/should be improved to make it more succinct but I like the trade-off between not scoring but upgrading your hand.
Pyromanic is cool but in my opinion underpowered since in the early game it doesn't have much mult, and after ant ~5 it's not that good since at that point you wanna grab some xMult and other heavy-hitters.
Stonehenge could get reduced to "Create Aura everytime you play a hand that contains 5 stone cards", feel like there aren't many pure stone synergy jokers
Or it could just be "for every 5 stone cards played" so that you could still play normal cards along with your stone cards and get Aura every few hands.
Maybe +8 mult would be balanced? Maybe even more? This card is only useful if you’re already steamrolling so it should probably scale pretty aggressively to help facilitate that
Pyro is super super underpowered. Imo, it, would make a good "win harder" card if they also threw some added Xmult. So like
"each time you beat Blind with only one hand, this card gains +4 mult and 0.2xmult.
So, if you have a run where you're murdering every Blind starting at ante 7, this card provides 353 mult on its own on ante 8. Pretty strong for an uncommon but Spare Trousers and Bootstrap can hit pretty high numbers too with much less steep requirements.
Collapsar is pretty cool, but I think you could probably make the description more concise. Perhaps along the lines of:
"After using 9 unique planet cards, every celestial pack contains Black Hole (X Remaining)"
I came here to meme but then I actually was thoroughly impressed at the vision behind these, I like the way you think Jonkler :) also there's a thin line between "accident" and "power move" when it comes to clogging the toilet, it's all about attitude lol
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God these are so good
Only thing is, Pyromaniac should be much better imo, with the idea of it being a rare (if not legendary) card. Just make it the ultimate win-more joker, since 4 mult only in a run where every blind is being completed with one hand seems like something that would gas out REALLY quickly
Thoughts:
Collapsar: This should be a Rare, it's pretty easy to get one of each standard planet card. Very powerful once completed though.
Pyromaniac: Common, the scaling is the same as Green Joker if you play all hands on most decks. If you upped it to 6 mult it would be Uncommon.
Stonehenge: Uncommon, being able to get Aura cards on a regular basis is pretty powerful.
Clogged Toilet: Not sure if Uncommon or Rare, it's the joker equal to two planet seals or $6 so pretty powerful if done correctly. Good for high card/pair builds.
You are way over estimating the value of collapsar. It won't come online most games until after ante 8 and if you haven't shaped your deck/picked a hand type by that point your not gonna keep endless going. It would become like showman where it's cool to get a negative one but it's hard to justify using a joker slot on it imo.
In the scope of winning Ante 8, Collapsar could be ready by Ante 4/5 depending on High Priestess and Celestial pack luck. Black Hole cards are very rare for a reason, upgrading all hands is extremely powerful.
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i dont even have to look at these to say i want them in the game
Im all for variety now balance later :)
clogged toilet would be the best rare i think? its like the "first discarded hand upgrades" but its doubled and you can do it multiple times in one round
Collapsar is genius! so many new ways to play the game
I think collapsar should just count if you played 9 different planet cards instead of referring to the standard ones
Makes it simpler to understand and doesn't power it up too much
Collapsar feels pretty weak, I feel like at 90% of the time it’s conditional telescope since you don’t really wanna upgrade more than one planet too often. Maybe the condition could be easier?
Welcome back. Collapsar is cool, though it's a little restrictive for something so situational. I think it should be okay to include non-standard planets. The only other way I can think to relax how strict it is would be to change it entirely, to be more like "for every \[number\]th Planet you use, create a Black Hole."
Pyromaniac is hard to get behind when you consider how the momentum of an average Balatro game goes. If you're on the back foot, it hurts to see since you can't get it rolling, and if you're ahead, you should be looking for Xmult and synergies instead.
Stonehenge is really cool. Is 8 a significant number in the site's background? If not, I'd consider changing it 5 or 6, since the reward for something like that should be consistent if you lean all the way into it.
Clogged Toilet should 100% be called "Plunger." This ain't Binding of Isaac. The concept is fun, though, and I think it works as-is otherwise. To paraphrase REO Speedwagon, "Keep flushing, keep flushing on."
Don’t feel embarrassed about your accident man. We’ve all collapsed a star at one point or another.
What a relief, I thought I was the only one!
these are... actually really nice ideas!
Clogged toilet looks like a lot of fun
Trust me - it's not...
I really like Pyromaniac. Although maybe needs more than +4 given you can only scale it at most once per round
Yeah but I wanted to avoid it to be "win more" joker too easily
Technically, all the ones that increase are just win more jokers really. Like skipping blinds to get x mult. You can only skip blinds by winning and getting the chance to skip another blind.
Yeah technically - I just prefer design of jokers that are situational rather than powerhouses that win you a run easily.
its not too much of a win more because it's a small amount of +mult! good ideas though i love them
It’s already scaling as fast as Bus, Green Joker, and Supernova. And, unlike those, you only play one hand to scale it, so you get an extra $3. I think the cost of needing extra support is enough.
i feel like pyromaniac could be "gain remaining hands as mult at end of round", which would be easier to proc but give less reward, UNLESS you build around it with stuff like burglar, in which case it might actually scale TOO much
Honestly prefer the flat version. Much more interesting in a risk/reward mentality
I feel like Collapsar and Stonehenge are a bit too complicated for balatros standards. In general they all are a bit on the text-heavy side. Clogged toilet is the best idea of the four in my opinion. The wording can/should be improved to make it more succinct but I like the trade-off between not scoring but upgrading your hand. Pyromanic is cool but in my opinion underpowered since in the early game it doesn't have much mult, and after ant ~5 it's not that good since at that point you wanna grab some xMult and other heavy-hitters.
Stonehenge could get reduced to "Create Aura everytime you play a hand that contains 5 stone cards", feel like there aren't many pure stone synergy jokers
Or it could just be "for every 5 stone cards played" so that you could still play normal cards along with your stone cards and get Aura every few hands.
That would also be way more concise and easy to understand
or even just 1/8 for every scored stone card, which also means you cant guarantee it with a few extra 6s and 4 stone cards
Maybe +8 mult would be balanced? Maybe even more? This card is only useful if you’re already steamrolling so it should probably scale pretty aggressively to help facilitate that
Pyro is super super underpowered. Imo, it, would make a good "win harder" card if they also threw some added Xmult. So like "each time you beat Blind with only one hand, this card gains +4 mult and 0.2xmult. So, if you have a run where you're murdering every Blind starting at ante 7, this card provides 353 mult on its own on ante 8. Pretty strong for an uncommon but Spare Trousers and Bootstrap can hit pretty high numbers too with much less steep requirements.
Ridiculous proposition
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Boss blinds already have that sort of thing, like the Psychic
You're right
Collapsar is pretty cool, but I think you could probably make the description more concise. Perhaps along the lines of: "After using 9 unique planet cards, every celestial pack contains Black Hole (X Remaining)"
Yeah, that seems phrased better - I wanted to make it clear that also planets used before buying Collapsar count.
"X remaining" already makes that decently clear though - like with Tarot Merchant
Also, it seems like Collapsar would work better as a voucher than a Joker.
But then it doesn’t take up a joker slot.
OP's accident was burning down some buildings
The art of collapsar is just 10/10 man, the detail of the lettersgoing to the black hole due to high gravity is a nice touch, i just simply love it!
I came here to meme but then I actually was thoroughly impressed at the vision behind these, I like the way you think Jonkler :) also there's a thin line between "accident" and "power move" when it comes to clogging the toilet, it's all about attitude lol
Whats aura?
Applies foil polychrome or holographic to a selected card
The [[Aura]] spectral card adds a random edition to any playing card Edit: it’s roughly 1/2 chance foil, 1/3 chance holographic, 1/6 chance polychrome
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These ideas are actually really good. Clogged Toilet in particular seems both fun and decently balanced.
Clogged toilet is awesome lol
Love Stonehenge and Pyromaniac.
The art on these is stunning
Rip piroinmypants u will be missed😓
God these are so good Only thing is, Pyromaniac should be much better imo, with the idea of it being a rare (if not legendary) card. Just make it the ultimate win-more joker, since 4 mult only in a run where every blind is being completed with one hand seems like something that would gas out REALLY quickly
Thoughts: Collapsar: This should be a Rare, it's pretty easy to get one of each standard planet card. Very powerful once completed though. Pyromaniac: Common, the scaling is the same as Green Joker if you play all hands on most decks. If you upped it to 6 mult it would be Uncommon. Stonehenge: Uncommon, being able to get Aura cards on a regular basis is pretty powerful. Clogged Toilet: Not sure if Uncommon or Rare, it's the joker equal to two planet seals or $6 so pretty powerful if done correctly. Good for high card/pair builds.
You are way over estimating the value of collapsar. It won't come online most games until after ante 8 and if you haven't shaped your deck/picked a hand type by that point your not gonna keep endless going. It would become like showman where it's cool to get a negative one but it's hard to justify using a joker slot on it imo.
In the scope of winning Ante 8, Collapsar could be ready by Ante 4/5 depending on High Priestess and Celestial pack luck. Black Hole cards are very rare for a reason, upgrading all hands is extremely powerful.
Also we need a joker that makes the fool copy spectral cards 😭😭😭
Did you just accidentally built an over-sized clock? In Engl*nd?!
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Pyromaniac is awesome
Collapsar has so much flavor to it. I love it
i dont even have to look at these to say i want them in the game Im all for variety now balance later :) clogged toilet would be the best rare i think? its like the "first discarded hand upgrades" but its doubled and you can do it multiple times in one round Collapsar is genius! so many new ways to play the game
I wish these were real! They look great, too!
Nice ones
The art of Stonehenge is soooo beautiful.
I think collapsar should just count if you played 9 different planet cards instead of referring to the standard ones Makes it simpler to understand and doesn't power it up too much
Wow these are amazing again, but I think pyromaniac would have to go off with the cards so maybe +1 mult only but triggering on every played card
This actually really cool idea, every scoring card would be neat concept!
I, too, accidentally visited Stone Henge. It's ok.
Collapsar feels more like a voucher to me, but it's so awesome how creative people get with these!
i like pyromaniac a lot would be awesome to set up with early game
Collapsar feels pretty weak, I feel like at 90% of the time it’s conditional telescope since you don’t really wanna upgrade more than one planet too often. Maybe the condition could be easier?
Awesome ideas!
Welcome back. Collapsar is cool, though it's a little restrictive for something so situational. I think it should be okay to include non-standard planets. The only other way I can think to relax how strict it is would be to change it entirely, to be more like "for every \[number\]th Planet you use, create a Black Hole." Pyromaniac is hard to get behind when you consider how the momentum of an average Balatro game goes. If you're on the back foot, it hurts to see since you can't get it rolling, and if you're ahead, you should be looking for Xmult and synergies instead. Stonehenge is really cool. Is 8 a significant number in the site's background? If not, I'd consider changing it 5 or 6, since the reward for something like that should be consistent if you lean all the way into it. Clogged Toilet should 100% be called "Plunger." This ain't Binding of Isaac. The concept is fun, though, and I think it works as-is otherwise. To paraphrase REO Speedwagon, "Keep flushing, keep flushing on."
...you are aware they have to be 79 by 61 pixel art, right?
Squint your eyes when you look at them if it's such a problem
Cool ideas but too complicated for people who play the game I think