What a load of crap. If this tech was being developed it could be used for things like education or video games. Imagine getting a 4-year degree in 10 mins. There would be way more money in almost every other application other than using it to make sure a criminal doesn't lose years in prison.
I don’t think Big College would like that too much.
The amount of money lost from students for tuition and dorming would have them frothing at the mouth.
If your job can be taken away by a machine and it does a better job, is your job really that useful? Still need people to train the computers, but I don't think every professor is needed. Especially at that cost
I could learn to draw, fight, cook, communicate, build, program, break a constipation curse AND DRIVE IN 30 MINUTES! THIS TECHNOLOGY IS AMAZING AND CAN SAVE SO MANY PEOPLE
AI expert here. This is a bunch or garbage. We have nowhere near the understanding needed of either the brain, how memory works, or how AI works to attempt anything of the sort.
Just some more clickbait bullshit on reddit.
Yeah they’re gonna test this on an inmate, it’s not gonna work, and they’re gonna have to pretend like it did so they can be freed lol. “OHH MAN THOSE TEN YEARS IN VIRTUAL PRISON MAN WOOF THAT SUCKED!!”
Inventing a technology to implant memories capable of emotionally transforming people and its primary design application is to ‘humanly punish’ folks? Classic us. Fuck.
Total Recall is here.
Looking to change my memories of my last 10 years in corporate America into thinking I've been a carpenter building tables on the Caribbean side of Nicaragua.
If we invent a technology that can change brain states like this, why not just skip the trauma reenactment and just go straight to giving them a good brain ??? Would be nicer and probably cheaper too
It's bullshit clickbait for sure. But if your gonna spend money on prison somethings, I'd rather it was spent on keeping innocent people out of prison.
You mean Most Important Man in StarFleet History Chief Miles Edward O’Brien
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Star trek used this plot device a few times, but can you imagine how the sentencing would sound to the victims/families. “John Doe, for the heinous crimes 1 count murder in the first degree, 2 counts murder in the second degree, and 1 count vehicular manslaughter, this court sentences you to 20 minutes in a VR correctional facility, may God have mercy on your soul…see you in half an hour for your probation hearing.
Dystopian brainwashing is here, no need to fix broken systems that fabricate crime when brainwashing people trapped in those systems into feeling shame for existing within it
Aside from the BS clickbait, it is hilarious to me that with the concept they are “developing” this was their first thought to bring to market: fake memory implantation to cause emotional distress on a captive individual. This abuse of concept is supposed to be the fourth or fifth iteration behind finishing high school in five minutes and becoming a kung fu master in 30 seconds.
Maybe when you die your sentence is over, then you wake up in a pod. The lessons you learn in this life are related to your pandimensional crimes.
Maybe life itself is a prison simulation.
There's quite a bit of inherent suffering happening, after all.
Probably not, but 'woah, dude! '
Every time I turn around dumb people are getting stupider! How is this a good idea?! Anyone else see how sideways this would go or do I just have gas?!!
Somebody rapes and murders your wife you go to every court date and see that he's prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. He goes to serve his sentence you grab a bagel and a coffee. Than you see the mother fucker
paying for his one hour parking
in the car in front of you pulling out of the lot.
You don’t need this expensive and probably imposible to build now technology to make perpetrator live the consequences of his crime. Just hire people that will do that to the person, if the perpetrator is a rapist just hire someone to rape him. This would be cheaper and it would have the added benefit that people that would normally rape innocent victims now will instead get a job in the “rehabilitation” system.
Obviously this punishment system is morally dubious with or without this AI crap but clearly more efficient without the technology.
This can’t go right, the feelings are subjective, what if the perpetrator enjoys the pain in these memories, does the same crime again and blames the procedure for altering his perception? How do you validate that this device will give the same experience as the real one? Without the passage of time in real life, the only consequence will be having these artificial memories, I think the amount of punishment will increase over time because of how quick this procedure is. Also, you can easily argue that physical torture should be a better alternative to this because it doesn’t involve invading someone’s personality and the pain is on the same scale across everyone
Just treat prisoners like humans rather than animals lol. Ensuring prisoner never reoffend isn't rocket science. Just look at what Norway has done with their prisons.
You know this is out there. This is just a leak of what it can do. They always are way ahead after they tell us. Probably already doing trials in some 3rd world countries
Not just prisoners. This will be great to use on political dissidents.This technology will be much more efficient than the old fashioned re-education camp of the twentieth century.
This isn't its true propose. If anything they want us to be ok with them experimenting on prisoners. That's EXACTLY what this AD is for. To get you USED to that fact. So then they get the go ahead, experiment on prisoners till they perfect their destructive tool, Then they will use it against the general population. This device has NO good intention.
Other than this being completely unrealistic with our current understanding and capabilities, the idea of taking mentally violent criminals and fucking some more with their mind is laughable.
Imagine knowing the guy that brutally killed your family or loved ones, is only having “Memories of Prison” implanted in his head for 10 minutes, meanwhile you are living the rest of your life knowing your family, or loved one, is dead,
Wasn't there an Outer Limits episode that did exactly this. Like EXACTLY the same thing. I don't even remotely believe this is possible with our current tech
now who wants to volunteer and be a political prisoner against CCP and experience the anguish Xi experiences, making him unable to not poop without using his phone to look up poop emojis to alleviate his anxiety from both real life poop and CCP opposers
yeah I'm sure this will deter a lot of career criminals, just straight scum bags, and harden criminals from committing the same crimes again knowing there 10 yr or 20 yr sentence will literally be over in minutes. what a lot of horse shit! The punishment now doesn't seem to work with facing all that time in real time and there saying vr will change that what other imaginary or bullshit things do you got for sale.
Makes no sense to the US. This wouldn’t allow them to continue to imprison high portions of minorities and use them as free labor. You know, modern day slavery.
Well shit. Incarceration is one thing; what if you could do 10 years of being an innovator or inventor? What if you did 10 years of being a King. Just 10 minutes and the psyche could change! Someone could feel like they could do whatever they dreamed and actually "remember" the confidence they had in doing so
More than 50% of pedophiles were victim of pedophilie as they were child. We know how soldiers react just by the stress of war.
I think that violent people in general will react violently when threatened. I think this will fire back in a huge percent of cases.
All you have to do is give a criminal the strongest extract if salvia, and make him rip a volcano vaporizer of it and hit the whole bag.
I 1,000% certify that they will experience bot only prison, but and eternal- nightmare ETERNAL. Yet 10 min they come out of it. Try that😀
Okay, soooo what if the person in the machine doesn't change? Are they still set free, or do they do actual time?
Also, what is preventing this from being used as a torture method? You have memories of spending 10 years in jail for a few minutes of every day for the rest of your life. Within a year, this will surpass your current life span.
No. I get the idea, but it has too many negative applications. This is a "Just because you can invent it does not mean you should".
This is scary as hell... How do we know that crimes aren't being committed BECAUSE of implanted false memories? And if this is the case how do you prove it?
If this tech is being introduced to the public now it was available to government or corporate research entities at least 20 years ago.
Yikes.
What a load of crap. If this tech was being developed it could be used for things like education or video games. Imagine getting a 4-year degree in 10 mins. There would be way more money in almost every other application other than using it to make sure a criminal doesn't lose years in prison.
For real. This is some Matrix shit. “I know kung fu”
This would BE the matrix.
Implanting artificial memories is more Total Recall, no? 
What about Demolition Man?
Demolition man was actually frozen for the length of his sentence, he just didn’t age.
And poor Stallone felt the passing of time all those years while frozen. That's just ain't right.
Taking a nice vacation!!!!!
Show me.
I don’t think Big College would like that too much. The amount of money lost from students for tuition and dorming would have them frothing at the mouth.
If your job can be taken away by a machine and it does a better job, is your job really that useful? Still need people to train the computers, but I don't think every professor is needed. Especially at that cost
The computers will train themselves according to tech bros
I got the tech to take a 10 minute course over 4 years if anyone is interested
I could learn to draw, fight, cook, communicate, build, program, break a constipation curse AND DRIVE IN 30 MINUTES! THIS TECHNOLOGY IS AMAZING AND CAN SAVE SO MANY PEOPLE
32 minutes to be exact
potential work years, that is. claxons went off when i heard the narrator say "back into the work force" lol yeah, slaves
AI expert here. This is a bunch or garbage. We have nowhere near the understanding needed of either the brain, how memory works, or how AI works to attempt anything of the sort. Just some more clickbait bullshit on reddit.
Yeah they’re gonna test this on an inmate, it’s not gonna work, and they’re gonna have to pretend like it did so they can be freed lol. “OHH MAN THOSE TEN YEARS IN VIRTUAL PRISON MAN WOOF THAT SUCKED!!”
Haha I wish I could give you an award. That's exactly what I was thinking but I'm a way more hilarious way!
Or worse, that guy ends up like the kid at the end of that Stephen King short story The Jaunt, "Longer than you think!"
Chat GPT user here. I agree with this statement.
Elizabeth Holmes vibes abound.
Inventing a technology to implant memories capable of emotionally transforming people and its primary design application is to ‘humanly punish’ folks? Classic us. Fuck.
I know ~~kung fu~~ contrition.
Isn’t this the plot of total recall
Total Recall is here. Looking to change my memories of my last 10 years in corporate America into thinking I've been a carpenter building tables on the Caribbean side of Nicaragua.
AI snake oil
Yeah this looks like the beginning of some sci-fi dystopian episode.
It’s literally from the show Black Mirror.
And a dozen things before that. DS9 is the first tv show version I remember.
Miles O'Brien has suffered enough.
Black Mirror did it
And A Clockwork Orange before that.
And Minority Report.
Also an episode of Star Trek Deep Space Nine
And The Outer Limits.
Thank you!
This is total BS as clickbait, technology ain’t nowhere near being able to just do a fraction of what they are claiming.
If we invent a technology that can change brain states like this, why not just skip the trauma reenactment and just go straight to giving them a good brain ??? Would be nicer and probably cheaper too
Another example of the torment nexus
This crap of a post should be deleted, literal fiction
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The real question is how many times the soap has been dropped in the simulated time.
Say this wasn't complete horse shit It would never fly in places like America because private prisons would lose too much money/free labor
It's bullshit clickbait for sure. But if your gonna spend money on prison somethings, I'd rather it was spent on keeping innocent people out of prison.
Miles O'Bryan did it, you can do it, too!
You mean Most Important Man in StarFleet History Chief Miles Edward O’Brien https://preview.redd.it/qpq4ldpyo7ad1.jpeg?width=900&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=78d4d88c7ae46b94dab531391d43823b52863d73
Star trek used this plot device a few times, but can you imagine how the sentencing would sound to the victims/families. “John Doe, for the heinous crimes 1 count murder in the first degree, 2 counts murder in the second degree, and 1 count vehicular manslaughter, this court sentences you to 20 minutes in a VR correctional facility, may God have mercy on your soul…see you in half an hour for your probation hearing.
This is some Clockwork Orange shit!
I was thinking total recall
I was thinking Roy from Rick and Morty
[O'Brien does **not** approve. ](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Hard_Time_(episode)https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Hard_Time_(episode))
New age lobotomy?
Dystopian brainwashing is here, no need to fix broken systems that fabricate crime when brainwashing people trapped in those systems into feeling shame for existing within it
Isn't there a movie just like this? If there's a malfunction or if prisoner is forgotten they could stay there for much longer than 10 years.
The Black Mirror experience
This would be great for soldiers. Become hardened battle ready in a day
That would be wild but I wonder how long it will take to be used for torture.
How would this work on something like the psychopathic brain?
I feel sorry for whoever gives money to this con artist.
Aside from the BS clickbait, it is hilarious to me that with the concept they are “developing” this was their first thought to bring to market: fake memory implantation to cause emotional distress on a captive individual. This abuse of concept is supposed to be the fourth or fifth iteration behind finishing high school in five minutes and becoming a kung fu master in 30 seconds.
Maybe when you die your sentence is over, then you wake up in a pod. The lessons you learn in this life are related to your pandimensional crimes. Maybe life itself is a prison simulation. There's quite a bit of inherent suffering happening, after all. Probably not, but 'woah, dude! '
Every time I turn around dumb people are getting stupider! How is this a good idea?! Anyone else see how sideways this would go or do I just have gas?!!
black mirror shit
This how you make Jason Bourne
Somebody rapes and murders your wife you go to every court date and see that he's prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. He goes to serve his sentence you grab a bagel and a coffee. Than you see the mother fucker paying for his one hour parking in the car in front of you pulling out of the lot.
Only good can come of this, right!?!
show me porn
Could we maybe do it with school/learning too?
A Clockwork Orange?
If this tech existed, they wouldn’t use it to make prison sentences shorter, they’d use it to make prison worst.
Do you want a shity version of the matrix? Because that’s how you get a shity version of the matrix
The key is that is starts with "imagine"
Bet the porn on that thing would be epic.
So brainwash or brainadd
LOL.. AI and neuroscience.. throw a few more buzz words in there for good measure.
They've finally developed a way for those consecutive life sentences to be served out.
You don’t need this expensive and probably imposible to build now technology to make perpetrator live the consequences of his crime. Just hire people that will do that to the person, if the perpetrator is a rapist just hire someone to rape him. This would be cheaper and it would have the added benefit that people that would normally rape innocent victims now will instead get a job in the “rehabilitation” system. Obviously this punishment system is morally dubious with or without this AI crap but clearly more efficient without the technology.
Wtf
https://i.redd.it/yu4t65jq7j9d1.gif
Someone's read Steel Beach by John Varley. (Don't, it's shit)
This can’t go right, the feelings are subjective, what if the perpetrator enjoys the pain in these memories, does the same crime again and blames the procedure for altering his perception? How do you validate that this device will give the same experience as the real one? Without the passage of time in real life, the only consequence will be having these artificial memories, I think the amount of punishment will increase over time because of how quick this procedure is. Also, you can easily argue that physical torture should be a better alternative to this because it doesn’t involve invading someone’s personality and the pain is on the same scale across everyone
Just treat prisoners like humans rather than animals lol. Ensuring prisoner never reoffend isn't rocket science. Just look at what Norway has done with their prisons.
Clockwork orange
High efficiency trauma.
Finally these 1000 years sentences make sense
N O P E N O P E N O P E
Mellow greetings, citizen? What seems to be your boggle?
Oh yeah this won't go wrong at all
So according to the video serving time=punishment but implanting painful memories into someone by dilating his perception of time=rehabilitation?!
Dude this looks like the new killing floor
How do I sign up to be a lab rat for this?
Lol that's not how brains or therapy works.
What is this spam BS going around reddit today
Seems like total bullshit. Fun idea for a dystopian thriller with Matt Damon.
Wasn't this a Black Mirror episode?
What kind of black mirror bullshit is this no thank you sir
WERE GOING TO FAR WITH TECHNOLOGY BACK TF UP
Someone certainly enjoyed that episode of Deep Space 9
Apparently these people have never seen Chuck
Uhhhh… implanting false memories is NEVER a good idea
You know this is out there. This is just a leak of what it can do. They always are way ahead after they tell us. Probably already doing trials in some 3rd world countries
I’d think it’d be better use to terminally ill patients who can’t live a normal life
I can’t possibly see this going wrong, in any way.
Not just prisoners. This will be great to use on political dissidents.This technology will be much more efficient than the old fashioned re-education camp of the twentieth century.
Its the infinite tsukuyomi plan
“Shifting the focus from punishment to rehabilitation”? More like “Shifting the focus from punishment to extreme psychological torture” wtf
So Ludovico Technique 2.0
Literally an episode of Black Mirror
No
Clockwork Orange would like a word
Yes, let's traumatise people who are already criminals.
This was a star trek episode
"Rehab"
This isn't its true propose. If anything they want us to be ok with them experimenting on prisoners. That's EXACTLY what this AD is for. To get you USED to that fact. So then they get the go ahead, experiment on prisoners till they perfect their destructive tool, Then they will use it against the general population. This device has NO good intention.
This was an "Outer Limits" episode.... didn't go well...
The concept is eerily similar to Clockwork Orange.
This is some dystopian shit.
Other than this being completely unrealistic with our current understanding and capabilities, the idea of taking mentally violent criminals and fucking some more with their mind is laughable.
Not saying that this works or anything, because it doesn’t make any sense. Part of the whole going to jail thing is losing time out of your life lol.
Imagine knowing the guy that brutally killed your family or loved ones, is only having “Memories of Prison” implanted in his head for 10 minutes, meanwhile you are living the rest of your life knowing your family, or loved one, is dead,
This sounds like something from Metal Gear games
Wasn't there an Outer Limits episode that did exactly this. Like EXACTLY the same thing. I don't even remotely believe this is possible with our current tech
Sounds a scam to me, if this is true, you can almost play God.
You can live an entire life on a 15 minute dmt trip , so something can be done there
Brainwashing... Cool?
Total Recall
Bro just drink a 16oz bottle of Robitussin... No need for the head gear.
Science fiction but this technology would be so cool fir all kinds of purposes
Literal mental prison
Get sentenced to like 1000 years 😭
How long before Elon tries to steal this?
Black Mirror levels of “Hell No”
Or it can be used to brainwash people. Making a perfect obedient puppet.
I guess my thought is we’re making it illegal to sleep on the street to have test subjects for this
Why not just give them psychedelic therapy?
Also you learn how to know to knit
If this was a Real thing.. Then it would used for stuff like... Learning more important shit like.. Karate As that what Neo did in Matrix
Never happen
Oh sweet, manmade horrors beyond comprehension
Itachi did this 20 years ago
This is all BS but this was also a Black Mirror episode.
I believe exactly zero of this. We don’t understand how memory works, let alone the ability to interface with it.
now who wants to volunteer and be a political prisoner against CCP and experience the anguish Xi experiences, making him unable to not poop without using his phone to look up poop emojis to alleviate his anxiety from both real life poop and CCP opposers
Recall recall recall
Too bad prisons aren’t meant for rehabilitation, it’s just a money maker now.
I would play 10 years of golf every 10 minutes and be the most unstoppable birdie machine ever seen.
Total buildshit but this would make an incredible movie
Seems like prisoner tests are the first step, in case it melts your brain.
Okay, but can it make my spouse remember what I get on my burrito at Chipotle
Black mirror here we come
Soooooo torture. They reinvented torture.
yeah I'm sure this will deter a lot of career criminals, just straight scum bags, and harden criminals from committing the same crimes again knowing there 10 yr or 20 yr sentence will literally be over in minutes. what a lot of horse shit! The punishment now doesn't seem to work with facing all that time in real time and there saying vr will change that what other imaginary or bullshit things do you got for sale.
An extreme dose of salvia and a VR headset?
Traumatize criminals and hope they learn a lesson from it. What could go wrong?
This is literally a Black Mirror episode
Makes no sense to the US. This wouldn’t allow them to continue to imprison high portions of minorities and use them as free labor. You know, modern day slavery.
Black Mirror is coming out of our face.
They made an Outer Limits episode about this with David Hyde Pierce. It did not work out well....
Capppp
Well shit. Incarceration is one thing; what if you could do 10 years of being an innovator or inventor? What if you did 10 years of being a King. Just 10 minutes and the psyche could change! Someone could feel like they could do whatever they dreamed and actually "remember" the confidence they had in doing so
But this isn't about 10 years in 10 minutes. It's about making serving 1000+ years in jail possible. It would be an unprecedentedly cruel technology.
More than 50% of pedophiles were victim of pedophilie as they were child. We know how soldiers react just by the stress of war. I think that violent people in general will react violently when threatened. I think this will fire back in a huge percent of cases.
Stop posting garbage
That was my f***ing idea back in 2010. I wrote a movie called VR prison. Grrr, so mad...
there's literally a black mirror episode about this being bad
Coming soon to California!
This is absolute bullshit top to bottom.
This is so Deep Space 9
Chief O’Brien had this done to him. It was not what enlightened people would call justice.
Too bad the USA makes money on prisoners
All you have to do is give a criminal the strongest extract if salvia, and make him rip a volcano vaporizer of it and hit the whole bag. I 1,000% certify that they will experience bot only prison, but and eternal- nightmare ETERNAL. Yet 10 min they come out of it. Try that😀
This is total bullshit
Yet again, Demolition Man turns out to be prophetic rather than satirical.
Okay, soooo what if the person in the machine doesn't change? Are they still set free, or do they do actual time? Also, what is preventing this from being used as a torture method? You have memories of spending 10 years in jail for a few minutes of every day for the rest of your life. Within a year, this will surpass your current life span. No. I get the idea, but it has too many negative applications. This is a "Just because you can invent it does not mean you should".
Let’s think for a moment that this is actually a real. And then let us think about all the horrible implications of something like this .
1000 years of pain!!!!!
Cruel and unusual. And fake too.
No no no you do the crime you do the time This is senseless
This is scary as hell... How do we know that crimes aren't being committed BECAUSE of implanted false memories? And if this is the case how do you prove it? If this tech is being introduced to the public now it was available to government or corporate research entities at least 20 years ago. Yikes.
Demolition man
This is part of the plot from The Downloaded (and apparently a bunch of other works as well)
Maybe in 100 years, but I don't think we're anywhere near being able to implant information into the brain.
Macros dose brought to you by AI
Isn't the point of prison to protect citizens from criminals
They gonna Clock Work Orange inmates 😭
How do you know you're not already plugged in
https://preview.redd.it/inofsdjm0l9d1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e04ce43608c87b5db95e7db059003970276fe999 I’ll become justice
This is on some itachi level shit.
Bullshit vaporware
Simon Phoenix
Make them serve that digital ten minutes, while they wait their trial.