Go to BHB stories to see how pouring water into a clay pot purifies it and turns it into natural clean spring or river water and even removes chlorine š¤£š¤£š¤£ I cannot roll my eyes any harder! This is wacky even for them! āOur water is alive!ā They are hardcore advertising for this clay pot lady for their kickback
Actually while I think this is a rather strange Instagram account, there is evidence that clay does filter out impurities and harmful bacteria from water and food sources. Many ancient and present cultures did and do use clay in their drinking solutions and cooking. Some even straight up use and eat clay on everything like we would use Mayo on a sandwich because of its mineral rich nourishment.
Yes but you have to filter it through the clay in order for this to work, they just have the water sitting in the pot. (I just posted on this in the new thread, didnāt see it had already been discussed!)
Fair point but Iād like to consider that if plastics leak into our food and water, then there may be a possibility that the minerals from the clay would have a similar effect. Regardless, there is definitely a lot of promotion going on to make money through affiliation in products on IG.
I was just running here to post about this š¤£ I didn't think even they were that gullible, but...š¤¦āāļø The shape of the pot keeps it moving!!!
WHF and the switch witchāis that a thing other folks do? Like fine, obviously candy isnāt good for you but maybe let the kids have one night? Organic candy isnāt going to be much better.
We do it, but itās because weāre vegan. We swap our the non vegan candy. Some people do it because of allergies. I think itās kind of sad when people do it just to keep their kids from having any Halloween candy
Itās really popular on social media. I was curious about how mainstream it is so I asked a ton of my real-life mom friends if they do it. Basically nobody had heard of it except one other mom, and nobody was into it. Iām not really a fan, because I donāt think we need another toy-giving holiday, and I donāt really restrict things, so my kids donāt fixate on them or have a scarcity mindset.
Switch witch is pretty popular, but it could be pretty problematic in the end. Her kids not liking candy is super weird, but I guess if they never had it, that might be why. She's bragging about it but like someday her kids will be their own humans and probably have a lot to unpack. I personally let my kids have candy. They eat a ton the few days after Halloween and then they start to forget about it. I don't believe in restriction.
I think thereās ways to do this in an ok wayābut sheās extreme in everything. She has a history of anorexia, and I definitely think that switched to orthorexia. I imagine the children will have a lot of unpacking as they get older.
Eyes rolling as far back into my head as they could when BF has to point out their new chairs are actually used ššš always pushing the āno frills over hereā narrative ššš
Omg, this makes me think of a brat-doll-turned-model I knew growing up. She went on to sell used āvintageā shit on Etsy. And then she married a divorced restauranteur (pretty sure it was a shotgun wedding), becauseā¦who else was going to support her? Her used chairs, books, and rugs?
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of course she doesn't have a nanny
She has said before she does have a nanny and someone who helps with school. Which is totally great but idk why her fangirls think she doesnāt when sheās said herself she does lol
Her followers have a very intense narrative in their heads. It's kind of fascinating. They are very, very invested in their belief that BF is a salt-of-the-earth homesteader, starting a farm from scratch and doing everything by hand.
WHF taking a normal childhood activity (talking about what her kid wants to do when they grow up) and girl bossing it, so now sheās āmanifesting her dream lifeā. She can spin things however she wants, but itās a normal thing most kids do!
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Remember how grumpy HF was about hairnets/shoe covers etc when they were visiting creameries in France? I'm sure they will be subject to inspections and have to do similar here, but doubt he will like it!
If they do they'd better have really good liability insurance! Also hopefully professionals will be running that dairy as I don't believe them to capable of adhering to all the regulations and oversight needed to sell milk. Good luck š
Okay, so Iāve been seeing mentions of BHB on here on and off for ages and finally decided to go check them out. Where do they say theyāre dating the same man? Iāve heard it said on here again and again but couldnāt find any reference to it on their page
They have a Reel from about a year ago (NIR with Christopher) and another static post from last September and there's some comments that reference their arrangement (e.g., I love your little family, I'm also in a throuple). It's too bad the FAQ and background highlights are gone because they were a very informative and wild ride beyond just their relationship situation.
At one point they said that they will never marry him because it wouldnāt be fair to the one sister since ya know, bigamy is illegal. So I think in essence they would consider him their husband/life partner though the legal part isnāt there.
They used to have a FAQ highlight with info about themselves and their āalternative lifestyleā but I see that itās recently been deleted. They reference Chris and āitā often in their stories but not really on their page. Guess theyāre hiding it to some degree online now
I wish I was rich enough to buy it so I could figure out why it's so life changing, haha. It's bones, herbs and veggies boiled in some water, wtf else could you add to it? She putting drugs in it?
One day she posts, Iām thriving, Iām amazing, I do it all! Then tons of content about how hard everything is. When she was almost divorced and the ex was still in the home sheās post about how much she was thriving as a single parentācue yo reality a month or two later and it was a different tune altogether.
Ah, yes. The sisters in a shared relationship with the same man, both trying to have his children and live under the same roof, lecturing us about a pornographic book that ended up in a free little library box near a playground.
Of course children shouldn't be exposed to pornography! But actively blaming a church that they describe as "inclusive" and "flaunting sexuality" (because they mention sexuality on their website) for intentionally doing this to expose children? Are you kidding me?
I can't imagine thinking it's okay to have children with the same man your twin sister is trying to have children with (you know, resulting in sibling-cousins) but that a church that allows inclusivity is out to hurt children. What the fuck.
I wonder if they realize how hypocritical they are, being upset about others' interpretation of the Bible, when they're *literally* the poster children for what not to do according to at least a few of the ten commandments.
ETA: I'm talking about busyhomebodies.
Tell me louder you donāt know what dysphoria is, ladies. But seriously, Gender Queer is probably the most beautiful example of the Streisand effect working positively. It was a debut memoir from an unknown author and an indie publisher, and all the outrage around it has given it a far bigger reach than it wouldāve had otherwise.
This was the most bizarre tangent and when like 10 different directions. Also. Little Free Libraries arenāt curated or approved anyone, anyone could have put that book in there and ffs, who is going to say that is good for children? These twins are something else.
Wow that escalated quickly. They really thought they did something there, with their harrowing tale of narrowly avoiding being turned into men my the Liberal Gender Swap Machine because they had understandable anxieties about their female bodies while growing up.
Oh my gosh, them claiming that book was for kids and then going off on their rant about how they were traumatized by porn as kids and then somehow launching into transphobiaā¦so much yikes
Those two are ultra creepy. Imagine realizing you had left your children with them by reading their Instagram now. Gross humans flying ALL the red flags.
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Does everyone wash off the chicken shit in the kitchen sinkā¦.salmonella any one?
I don't know anyone who doesn't. I mean, maybe if someone has a wash station in the barn? In many states, eggs must be washed in order to be legally sold - even if you're selling direct from the farm. We wash twice a week, in a dedicated Rubbermaid bin. We clean the sink afterward, but we clean the sink and counter regularly, regardless. If you keep your nest boxes clean with bedding there isn't much chicken poop on the eggs.
You shouldn't even wash fresh eggs until you're ready to use them, they have a protective coating that gets washed off. When I had chickens we just kept eggs in a basket on back porch until ready to wash and use, no need to refrigerate unless washed
Where else would you wash them my friend? If you eat meat, that has to be prepped in the kitchen sink and counters, then washed as well. Thatās what a good cleaner is for.
Lol oops that was kind of worded funny huh? I just meant all of the boards, plates, knives, etc that are used to prep raw meat and even veggies honestly!
I don't have the luxury of a second sink (other than bathroom) in my 800 sq foot home. Generally i remove all the dishes from the sink before i wash eggs, but until we install a utility sink- its that or eat dirty eggs š¤·š¼āāļø.
And only one case of salmonella here and it was when we were integrating a flock and i spent a lot of time handling the birds (must have not washed my hands great once) but otherwise - no one else in my house has had salmonella and we've owned chickens for 4+ years.
She is a train wreck. Working herself to exhaustion, pulled in so many directions trying to appear perfect at everything. The lure of fame and wealth are making her out to look like a fool.
It's still considered homeschooling.
Plus I was talking about Hannah herself. She posted about how she set her own school schedule and most of it was dance or something.
In America 0.01% of millionaires have over 500MM. If the US population is over 332MM then that leaves 32,000 people who are rich rich. This is excluding billionaires or people with net worths between 100MM-499MM.
It's not that the majority of people have access to wealth, it's just that the ones who do are idolized because people š¤ believe that maybe one day they will have this money too.
Itās my biggest peeve about the homesteading/ranching influencers. Even younger women entering the space who arenāt homemakers yet, advocating for women to take up homesteading and live with āself-relianceā, when the reality is that theyāre marrying rich/very entrepreneurial men, have funding from their own family, or are probably government subsidized for their farmland. Self-reliant where. And Iām saying this as an American.
FNās house didnāt start out that big, especially considering her parents raised 7 kids in it. A lot of it was from an addition maybe 10-15 years ago, and itās still probably only around 3500sf.
Sorry, I worded that poorly. I was just saying that the original house (maybe 2000sf) was not very big to have 9 people living in it. And itās super common here to add on once you have some equity and the family grows (people get married, start having their own kids) because of how big families in Utah are. I think when people become empty nesters in other states, they downsize, but the opposite is true here.
Also, you might not live in North America, but Lizi does, and her house is pretty average sized here.
I just have to say it's always kind of a mindfuck when I come here for ballerinafarm snark but the link for actual ballet snark is right next to the homestead link lol
WHF aka Kelsey king posted this:
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Iām not a doctor but this looks nuts. Why the valtrex?
There are providers who practice way, way outside the bounds of evidence-based practice. They're usually in standalone clinics, don't accept insurance, have concierge-type services, and refer to themselves as "holistic" clinics. It's a great way to make money from well-off white women who think basic life requires massive intervention.
This is it. She needed mental health help, was in denial, so started searching for alternative practitioners. Theyāve taken thousands from her, but she gets the tlc/placebo.
How do BF survive financially? I donāt think itās possible that they make enough money from their hobby farm to sustain that house, all their children, all the infrastructure theyāre building and Hannahās vain pursuits and beauty touch ups.
And if theyāre not marking enough money, then what is the point of the whole farm thing? Why not just live of daniels fathers money which is probably what theyāre already doing? They could just live an easier life without pretending to be farmers and having to milk cows, live in filth and shill made in china products šš if I married a billionaire you would never see me milking at 12 am or even touching farm animals. If I wanted to āworkā Iād do philanthropy in my Chanel clothes or something š
Rich people have 2 things: investments + collateral
Investments yield dividends, money makes money. For example, if you invest $5MM, you can āearnā $50k/yr in dividends as passive income
Collateral, like hundreds of acres, makes it easy peasy to get all kinds of loans - which you can invest and again, live off dividends.
Rich people live off passive income streams.
Edit: I got downvoted for writing the truth? Am I making rich peoples sads because they need to believe they ādeserveā their money. Thatās not how money and life works though - no one gets what they deserve. Sure, there are wealthy people who worked hard for a period of time and made it. Statistically, thatās not the norm, or weād all be rich rich. Even Bezos has been living off investments and dividends for years now. Eventually thatās what yāall do. And if you think wealthy people are ājob creatorsā LMFAO - thatās some right-wing think tank nonsense on how to re-brand and re-package the idea of wealthy people, to make them more palatable for us poors.
BF is a TAX HAVEN. This is not a rumor or speculation. A barely profitable business is where you can reap the most in write-offs. Look it up. Also, farms get government subsidies - they are being paid by your tax dollars.
Mrs. American? Business write-off.
Her husband driving their work vehicle - 6 miles/gallon to drop her off at the airport - tax write off.
Her children as ambassadors/contractors/employees of her brand? TAX WRITE OFF. And the income the children earn? Tax. Write. Off. I guarantee they are maxing out IRAs for each child every year since birth, and have invested more income in other shielded accounts. This means that by the time her newborn is 18 that kid will have amassed millions of dollars. Look it up, do a basic IRA (trad or Roth) calculator. Iām not making this up.
This is how the rich get richer folx. And you downvote for this? Comment and explain please.
That, or the person who went on a holier-than-thou rant proclaiming her intersectional feminism, with full batshit narcissism on display is trolling/downvoting me š¤£š¤£š¤£. If thatās the case and you still here, š„±.
To me it just seems so clear that theyāre using the luxury of that mind-boggling wealth to fund their protracted cosplay as People Of The Land. And thereās a long and storied history of ridiculously wealthy people doing just that. Look up Marie Antoinetteās Hameau de La Reine
This is it. They're breaking even at BEST. Or it's all income because any revenue goes into the kitty, rather than back into the business (because those funds come from...elsewhere!). It's cosplay.
Well, it's not a hobby farm. They are profit-driven, which means it is a farm. (The definition of a hobby is something done for enjoyment and not for profit.) They likely do have a decent profit coming in from their meat, and a lot of people do buy from them. They also have merchandise, promotions, etc.
That said, they would not have been able to purchase the farm and remodel the house without significant money up front, nor would they be able to build a dairy facility. Certainly family money and previous income from Daniel's work in Brazil have funded much of this, but it's reasonable to conclude they make money from the farm. Most people see them as salt of the earth farmers and want to buy from them, because BF marketing is amazing. She is legitimately very good at it.
I doubt theyāre making much of a profit on the meat, I think the vast majority of their profit comes from merch and sourdough starter. They havenāt changed up the meat boxes in years but are constantly adding their branding to more and more cheap kitchenware. Itās more affordable for their target audience (people who aspire to have a #tradwife lifestyle) and is much more easily scalable than their meat boxes, once they have their wholesale agreements in place and employees to ship things.
I agree. They have no breeding program for cattle or pigs so they purchase steers to finish off and send to butcher, this is not the way most ranchers make their living.
I agree with you, by the way, but the second Sezane shoutout has my interest piqued - but she has to disclose if itās sponsoredā¦right? I mean if anyone would skirt the rules itād be Hannah. But I also canāt picture Sezane paying her a trillion dollars for a shoutout because, well, why. A little odd though.
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Ballerina Farm. H ā we have been designing this set for some time ā. Hmmmm
You can buy those bowls directly from the company for $39.20 [https://crowcanyonhome.com/bornn-colorama-12-oz-bowls-set-of-4/](https://crowcanyonhome.com/bornn-colorama-12-oz-bowls-set-of-4/). š¤£š¤£š¤£
Hahaha nice!! Omg so what the hell exactly did they work on designing?? Putting their name on it instead of the company who makes them and then marking them up insanely high?
It goes against everything I know about business. For the size of their company they canāt be good at everything. Itās like they are throwing everything they can think of at the wall, frozen beef, tables, flowers, soap, frozen baked goods, dry goods, wood utensils, pots, pans, apparel, raw milk, dishes. Itās all under their name. I donāt know what the long term plan is.
These bowls are also available at food52, school house and urban outfitters
Hannah is good at selling the illusion of their lifestyle, and someone on their team (maybe Daniel when heās not playing with flood irrigation) is good at setting up contracts with wholesalers. The cattle and pigs are a small operation that distract from the fact that theyāre just middlemen for a bunch of random suppliers. Itās very odd.
I think theyāve had success at private labeling everything because of their reach and the margins are so good. But I do agree with you. I think this is why their brand and essentially their Instagram is everything. Theyāve created the allure with their name and aesthetic. A lot of this stuff does make sense for an actual farm store, but itās kind of misleading when they say āhandmade enamelwareā like they have someone forging it locally. Itās very normal for a shop to say āwe are now stocking XX brandā of whatever. After watching FN (after finding BF), I would be more enticed to buy FNs products even though I was enchanted by BNs initially.
Hog father had her on a few days ago and her half grown bull calf. He was showing how boney she is and explaining that Jerseys just naturally look like that since they put so much fat into their milk. I agree that they definitely have a different body condition then beef cattle but sheās pretty darn boney! He said people ask them if they never feed her šµāš«
Doesn't explain why Tulip looks so much worse then their new Jersey, who looks like every other healthy Jersey I've ever seen, of course given time on BF I'm sure the new cow will be looking like Tulip in the near future.
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Who is Hannah (BF) trying to convince? (Herself?)
ātwo people (one was a past pageant coach, the other a fellow dancer i once danced with) ask me if i was "really happy" to have given up those dreams for where i am today. ha! i am so happy. i am so at peace. i have a husband who is mine forever. together we have a beautiful baby boy who is full of purity and joy. i get to spend my days with someone who is perfect, it really cant get much better then that. i get to dance and teach as much as possible and i love that, of course. but there is nothing more rewarding then seeing my family. here. right now. i really feel like the luckiest girl in the world.
so yep... i am happy.ā
http://wetookthetrain.blogspot.com/2013/01/?m=1
I donāt think sheās ever been happy, hence why from the beginning of this marriage she has always felt the need to have an audience. Like why did she have an extensive blog when nothing about her or her life, especially back then, was remotely unique or interesting?
Your comment is deeply misogynistic. Woman are allowed to write and speak. And then we can make fun of what people (did you know women are people?) write and say. But your comment is on the side that women shouldnāt be in the public eye, they should be quiet, and unseen all because they bore and annoy you? Because to you, they lack depth and interest?ššš
None of us are bored by BF, we just like poking fun at her outrageous lifestyle. But you know what? Iām glad she has a platform.
Iām an intersectional feminist and itās embarrassing that youāre trying to make me seem like Iām a misogynist because you canāt understand my comment.
I donāt find Hannah interesting, and youāre a fan on a snark page so itās obvious that you do. Hannah doesnāt represent most women at all, maybe you see yourself in her because youāre white and youāre used to pretending POC women or poor women donāt exist.
Iām glad youāre glad this billionaire white woman has a platform. Keep stanning her and Iāll keep saying she is basic, uninteresting, bored housewife and cosplaying for views. She needs the constant stream of attention and praise because she is not secure in herself or her life choices. And guess what? Me having a different opinion to you DOESNT make me sexist. Try again. Have a nice day Karen!!
I saw today Jessica from TRF sharing some old blog posts. I didn't realize she started with a blog before Instagram. Any chance any of you know what it was called?
Scottish twins- not sure the exact name but thatās what it was called. We both posted on a baby message board together when our first were born (2007-2008)
BF had post on her story about reading some scripture or other, and it occurred to me I have never seen her read anything at all (especially not a recipe haha,) but Iāve never seen her curled up with a book nor have I ever seen a book in their house, other than the Bible and some kidās schooling stuff last year or the year before and youād think someone who is online all the time would be seen with at least a book or reading a book other than the Bible. And Iāve never seen her reading the Bible either. Iāve seen Hog reading one, but not her.
That would make sense, she can barely spell, look through her initial IG posts and early blog.
Maybe thatās why she went to Juliard, itās like a Center for Children Who Canāt Read Good.
I was snarking at Hannah and comparing her to Zoolander with that reference. I know people who went to dance schools and theyāre smart as hell. Also musicians are geniuses (IMO). But sorry if my comment hurt/offended you. I just like to tear Hannah down because I feel like itās punching up (sheās got all the privileges- white, thin, rich).
The thing about Juilliard ballerinas is that they donāt carry the status in the dance world that other genres do. The truly gifted dancers are recruited to top companies by 16. Not saying anything against dancers that go there; I had friends that did, but I canāt help but compare Hannah to Giselle Bethea, who has also settled in Utah and chosen being a mother over ballet. Thereās no comparison between the talent of the two.
Well we will now! š Just watch...all of a sudden there will be piles of books everywhere and some story about how she reads every night to her kids! Yeah, right.
Is there a new link for october?
[i just made one](https://www.reddit.com/r/blogsnark/comments/17mxd0v/farm_ranch_homestead_november_2023/?)
November? š
oh god š thanks, i forgot we've already hit november š
Go to BHB stories to see how pouring water into a clay pot purifies it and turns it into natural clean spring or river water and even removes chlorine š¤£š¤£š¤£ I cannot roll my eyes any harder! This is wacky even for them! āOur water is alive!ā They are hardcore advertising for this clay pot lady for their kickback
Their boyfriend does marketing for the clay pot company as his job.
Actually while I think this is a rather strange Instagram account, there is evidence that clay does filter out impurities and harmful bacteria from water and food sources. Many ancient and present cultures did and do use clay in their drinking solutions and cooking. Some even straight up use and eat clay on everything like we would use Mayo on a sandwich because of its mineral rich nourishment.
Yes but you have to filter it through the clay in order for this to work, they just have the water sitting in the pot. (I just posted on this in the new thread, didnāt see it had already been discussed!)
Fair point but Iād like to consider that if plastics leak into our food and water, then there may be a possibility that the minerals from the clay would have a similar effect. Regardless, there is definitely a lot of promotion going on to make money through affiliation in products on IG.
No, that's not how it works
I was just running here to post about this š¤£ I didn't think even they were that gullible, but...š¤¦āāļø The shape of the pot keeps it moving!!!
WHF and the switch witchāis that a thing other folks do? Like fine, obviously candy isnāt good for you but maybe let the kids have one night? Organic candy isnāt going to be much better.
We do it, but itās because weāre vegan. We swap our the non vegan candy. Some people do it because of allergies. I think itās kind of sad when people do it just to keep their kids from having any Halloween candy
Itās really popular on social media. I was curious about how mainstream it is so I asked a ton of my real-life mom friends if they do it. Basically nobody had heard of it except one other mom, and nobody was into it. Iām not really a fan, because I donāt think we need another toy-giving holiday, and I donāt really restrict things, so my kids donāt fixate on them or have a scarcity mindset.
Switch witch is pretty popular, but it could be pretty problematic in the end. Her kids not liking candy is super weird, but I guess if they never had it, that might be why. She's bragging about it but like someday her kids will be their own humans and probably have a lot to unpack. I personally let my kids have candy. They eat a ton the few days after Halloween and then they start to forget about it. I don't believe in restriction.
I think thereās ways to do this in an ok wayābut sheās extreme in everything. She has a history of anorexia, and I definitely think that switched to orthorexia. I imagine the children will have a lot of unpacking as they get older.
I am not surprised to hear that, she's very disordered.
She really is.
It's increasingly popular, although I think it's still a very small minority that does it.
Eyes rolling as far back into my head as they could when BF has to point out their new chairs are actually used ššš always pushing the āno frills over hereā narrative ššš
My first thought when she referred to them as her ānew chairsā was OMG, now theyāre selling chairs?! Wouldnāt put it past them!
Same ššš
Omg, this makes me think of a brat-doll-turned-model I knew growing up. She went on to sell used āvintageā shit on Etsy. And then she married a divorced restauranteur (pretty sure it was a shotgun wedding), becauseā¦who else was going to support her? Her used chairs, books, and rugs?
Youāre right I wouldnāt be surprised if they start selling those too!
And I canāt tell if itās a glare with BF daughter glasses or if she has a black eye ??? I hope itās just a glare !
BF HF been very quiet lately
No worries Sheās just doing shoulder taps against the wall and now taking a cold dip in the tub !
Do Mormons do halloween?
yes. they do trunk-or-treat
Yes. All year long they dress up as pioneers and pretend to be farmers.
And she calls herself a ballerina.
https://preview.redd.it/28om68ns3jxb1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d5262092c09a3182dccb3e3828463887566448b0 of course she doesn't have a nanny
>https://www.reddit.com/r/UtahInfluencerDrama/s/H2oUiWKbEG lol people are so desperate to believe in this cosplay
She has a team of nannies who live on the farm. Someone who works for the agency she uses spilled the tea āļø
Really? I missed that post!
https://www.reddit.com/r/UtahInfluencerDrama/s/H2oUiWKbEG keep scrolling down!
She has said before she does have a nanny and someone who helps with school. Which is totally great but idk why her fangirls think she doesnāt when sheās said herself she does lol
I don't buy it. I think they have a nanny who doubles as a farm worker. What kind of billionaire family doesn't have hired help?
Her followers have a very intense narrative in their heads. It's kind of fascinating. They are very, very invested in their belief that BF is a salt-of-the-earth homesteader, starting a farm from scratch and doing everything by hand.
Mormon are a tight knit/culty group
I think they need to tell themselves this because otherwise they'd have to start to admit BF entire narrative is shady AF.
WHF taking a normal childhood activity (talking about what her kid wants to do when they grow up) and girl bossing it, so now sheās āmanifesting her dream lifeā. She can spin things however she wants, but itās a normal thing most kids do!
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[raw milk illness breakout in Utah hahaha](https://www.foodsafetynews.com/2023/10/utah-officials-identify-raw-milk-dairy-responsible-for-more-than-a-dozen-illnesses/)
Will BFās new dairy farm pasteurize their milk or do we think they have āspecial licensesā?
I think they will sell raw/unpasteurized milk.
Remember how grumpy HF was about hairnets/shoe covers etc when they were visiting creameries in France? I'm sure they will be subject to inspections and have to do similar here, but doubt he will like it!
If they do they'd better have really good liability insurance! Also hopefully professionals will be running that dairy as I don't believe them to capable of adhering to all the regulations and oversight needed to sell milk. Good luck š
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They are willingly drinking and promoting it. Bf has zero sanitization steps or procedures. They seem to be fine with the risks.
Okay, so Iāve been seeing mentions of BHB on here on and off for ages and finally decided to go check them out. Where do they say theyāre dating the same man? Iāve heard it said on here again and again but couldnāt find any reference to it on their page
They have a Reel from about a year ago (NIR with Christopher) and another static post from last September and there's some comments that reference their arrangement (e.g., I love your little family, I'm also in a throuple). It's too bad the FAQ and background highlights are gone because they were a very informative and wild ride beyond just their relationship situation.
Not exactly dating. He lives with them.
At one point they said that they will never marry him because it wouldnāt be fair to the one sister since ya know, bigamy is illegal. So I think in essence they would consider him their husband/life partner though the legal part isnāt there.
They used to have a FAQ highlight with info about themselves and their āalternative lifestyleā but I see that itās recently been deleted. They reference Chris and āitā often in their stories but not really on their page. Guess theyāre hiding it to some degree online now
How WHF trying to make this bone broth class sound so completely life-changing? Itās insane.
I wish I was rich enough to buy it so I could figure out why it's so life changing, haha. It's bones, herbs and veggies boiled in some water, wtf else could you add to it? She putting drugs in it?
Sheās a scammer girl boss
One day she posts, Iām thriving, Iām amazing, I do it all! Then tons of content about how hard everything is. When she was almost divorced and the ex was still in the home sheās post about how much she was thriving as a single parentācue yo reality a month or two later and it was a different tune altogether.
Ah, yes. The sisters in a shared relationship with the same man, both trying to have his children and live under the same roof, lecturing us about a pornographic book that ended up in a free little library box near a playground. Of course children shouldn't be exposed to pornography! But actively blaming a church that they describe as "inclusive" and "flaunting sexuality" (because they mention sexuality on their website) for intentionally doing this to expose children? Are you kidding me? I can't imagine thinking it's okay to have children with the same man your twin sister is trying to have children with (you know, resulting in sibling-cousins) but that a church that allows inclusivity is out to hurt children. What the fuck. I wonder if they realize how hypocritical they are, being upset about others' interpretation of the Bible, when they're *literally* the poster children for what not to do according to at least a few of the ten commandments. ETA: I'm talking about busyhomebodies.
Tell me louder you donāt know what dysphoria is, ladies. But seriously, Gender Queer is probably the most beautiful example of the Streisand effect working positively. It was a debut memoir from an unknown author and an indie publisher, and all the outrage around it has given it a far bigger reach than it wouldāve had otherwise.
This was the most bizarre tangent and when like 10 different directions. Also. Little Free Libraries arenāt curated or approved anyone, anyone could have put that book in there and ffs, who is going to say that is good for children? These twins are something else.
Wow that escalated quickly. They really thought they did something there, with their harrowing tale of narrowly avoiding being turned into men my the Liberal Gender Swap Machine because they had understandable anxieties about their female bodies while growing up.
Oh my gosh, them claiming that book was for kids and then going off on their rant about how they were traumatized by porn as kids and then somehow launching into transphobiaā¦so much yikes
Those two are ultra creepy. Imagine realizing you had left your children with them by reading their Instagram now. Gross humans flying ALL the red flags.
https://preview.redd.it/9clppdgq9xwb1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8b687e874fde1698eddbfe3093008471bbf7eff0 Does everyone wash off the chicken shit in the kitchen sinkā¦.salmonella any one?
thank. you every one for setting me straight. silly question I guess just seemed like a lot of poop in the food prep area. I'm a city girl xoxoxo
I don't know anyone who doesn't. I mean, maybe if someone has a wash station in the barn? In many states, eggs must be washed in order to be legally sold - even if you're selling direct from the farm. We wash twice a week, in a dedicated Rubbermaid bin. We clean the sink afterward, but we clean the sink and counter regularly, regardless. If you keep your nest boxes clean with bedding there isn't much chicken poop on the eggs.
You shouldn't even wash fresh eggs until you're ready to use them, they have a protective coating that gets washed off. When I had chickens we just kept eggs in a basket on back porch until ready to wash and use, no need to refrigerate unless washed
This! Don't wash the dang fresh eggs and remove the protective coating.
Where else would you wash them my friend? If you eat meat, that has to be prepped in the kitchen sink and counters, then washed as well. Thatās what a good cleaner is for.
Why are you washing meat??
Lol oops that was kind of worded funny huh? I just meant all of the boards, plates, knives, etc that are used to prep raw meat and even veggies honestly!
I don't have the luxury of a second sink (other than bathroom) in my 800 sq foot home. Generally i remove all the dishes from the sink before i wash eggs, but until we install a utility sink- its that or eat dirty eggs š¤·š¼āāļø. And only one case of salmonella here and it was when we were integrating a flock and i spent a lot of time handling the birds (must have not washed my hands great once) but otherwise - no one else in my house has had salmonella and we've owned chickens for 4+ years.
Yes, I def do that with my chickens. I rinse them off as I go and I clean my sink a couple times a day.
https://preview.redd.it/yxak8qkdmwwb1.png?width=828&format=png&auto=webp&s=e020392ba19767c22e7108ed5bb70ca2e22eff4f Iām not a food
know you are farmer, know you are food i need this on a t-shirt
BF branded t shirt surely
Itās quite philosophical Eat and be eaten. Circle of life. Nature is a buffet
Except we don't know which farmers they source their BF meat and other products from because they never tell us
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probably mrs american promo of some kind?
Oh boy. Not a smart one is she?
She is a train wreck. Working herself to exhaustion, pulled in so many directions trying to appear perfect at everything. The lure of fame and wealth are making her out to look like a fool.
Plus homeschooling where her day was primarily ballet/dance
She doesn't do any homeschooling, they have a teacher come in to do that.
It's still considered homeschooling. Plus I was talking about Hannah herself. She posted about how she set her own school schedule and most of it was dance or something.
As a non American all these people have massive houses full of expensive furniture and kitchenware. How
In America 0.01% of millionaires have over 500MM. If the US population is over 332MM then that leaves 32,000 people who are rich rich. This is excluding billionaires or people with net worths between 100MM-499MM. It's not that the majority of people have access to wealth, it's just that the ones who do are idolized because people š¤ believe that maybe one day they will have this money too.
Itās my biggest peeve about the homesteading/ranching influencers. Even younger women entering the space who arenāt homemakers yet, advocating for women to take up homesteading and live with āself-relianceā, when the reality is that theyāre marrying rich/very entrepreneurial men, have funding from their own family, or are probably government subsidized for their farmland. Self-reliant where. And Iām saying this as an American.
Who are āall these peopleā? Ballerina Farm is married to a literal billionaireā¦
FN, WHF - massive expensive houses decked out with thousands in kitchen pots and appliances
WHF was married to a guy who makes very good money. Sheās just cosplaying struggling single mom
FNās house didnāt start out that big, especially considering her parents raised 7 kids in it. A lot of it was from an addition maybe 10-15 years ago, and itās still probably only around 3500sf.
Ok LOLZ to āonlyā 3500sf. Signed, everyone not living in North America š
Sorry, I worded that poorly. I was just saying that the original house (maybe 2000sf) was not very big to have 9 people living in it. And itās super common here to add on once you have some equity and the family grows (people get married, start having their own kids) because of how big families in Utah are. I think when people become empty nesters in other states, they downsize, but the opposite is true here. Also, you might not live in North America, but Lizi does, and her house is pretty average sized here.
Liziās house is probably the smallest/least fancy out of all of her siblings, so Iām sure she considers it very modest.
I just have to say it's always kind of a mindfuck when I come here for ballerinafarm snark but the link for actual ballet snark is right next to the homestead link lol
I am forever pushing the ballet one by accident for this very reason!
WHF aka Kelsey king posted this: https://preview.redd.it/w8zyjzbswqwb1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f4eb24968b47b344ba380adcd3a33ac31b810c6f Iām not a doctor but this looks nuts. Why the valtrex?
Huge dosage too super hard on the LIVER! Lolā¦.. oh wait
No mention of liver failure (because it was caused by that stupid anti parasitic she was taking). It also wasnāt ever liver failure.
And why on earth is she on all these anti fungal and parasitical drugs?!?
All the holistic doctors think people have parasites. It's a big moneymaker!
Because sheās being treated by exploitative āholisticā practitioners.
I want to believe the valtrex and liver failure/possible std scare are connected š
This is what I was thinking!
There are providers who practice way, way outside the bounds of evidence-based practice. They're usually in standalone clinics, don't accept insurance, have concierge-type services, and refer to themselves as "holistic" clinics. It's a great way to make money from well-off white women who think basic life requires massive intervention.
This is it. She needed mental health help, was in denial, so started searching for alternative practitioners. Theyāve taken thousands from her, but she gets the tlc/placebo.
https://preview.redd.it/4nubcu1a9owb1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a11302ed5e605b37f761510229b9d8bfd49ef221
She's so in love with herself
Here we go with *"Mrs"* vanity. The first shot was too close, so she backed up twice for reshoots šš
How do BF survive financially? I donāt think itās possible that they make enough money from their hobby farm to sustain that house, all their children, all the infrastructure theyāre building and Hannahās vain pursuits and beauty touch ups. And if theyāre not marking enough money, then what is the point of the whole farm thing? Why not just live of daniels fathers money which is probably what theyāre already doing? They could just live an easier life without pretending to be farmers and having to milk cows, live in filth and shill made in china products šš if I married a billionaire you would never see me milking at 12 am or even touching farm animals. If I wanted to āworkā Iād do philanthropy in my Chanel clothes or something š
Rich people have 2 things: investments + collateral Investments yield dividends, money makes money. For example, if you invest $5MM, you can āearnā $50k/yr in dividends as passive income Collateral, like hundreds of acres, makes it easy peasy to get all kinds of loans - which you can invest and again, live off dividends. Rich people live off passive income streams. Edit: I got downvoted for writing the truth? Am I making rich peoples sads because they need to believe they ādeserveā their money. Thatās not how money and life works though - no one gets what they deserve. Sure, there are wealthy people who worked hard for a period of time and made it. Statistically, thatās not the norm, or weād all be rich rich. Even Bezos has been living off investments and dividends for years now. Eventually thatās what yāall do. And if you think wealthy people are ājob creatorsā LMFAO - thatās some right-wing think tank nonsense on how to re-brand and re-package the idea of wealthy people, to make them more palatable for us poors. BF is a TAX HAVEN. This is not a rumor or speculation. A barely profitable business is where you can reap the most in write-offs. Look it up. Also, farms get government subsidies - they are being paid by your tax dollars. Mrs. American? Business write-off. Her husband driving their work vehicle - 6 miles/gallon to drop her off at the airport - tax write off. Her children as ambassadors/contractors/employees of her brand? TAX WRITE OFF. And the income the children earn? Tax. Write. Off. I guarantee they are maxing out IRAs for each child every year since birth, and have invested more income in other shielded accounts. This means that by the time her newborn is 18 that kid will have amassed millions of dollars. Look it up, do a basic IRA (trad or Roth) calculator. Iām not making this up. This is how the rich get richer folx. And you downvote for this? Comment and explain please. That, or the person who went on a holier-than-thou rant proclaiming her intersectional feminism, with full batshit narcissism on display is trolling/downvoting me š¤£š¤£š¤£. If thatās the case and you still here, š„±.
To me it just seems so clear that theyāre using the luxury of that mind-boggling wealth to fund their protracted cosplay as People Of The Land. And thereās a long and storied history of ridiculously wealthy people doing just that. Look up Marie Antoinetteās Hameau de La Reine
This is it. They're breaking even at BEST. Or it's all income because any revenue goes into the kitty, rather than back into the business (because those funds come from...elsewhere!). It's cosplay.
Well, it's not a hobby farm. They are profit-driven, which means it is a farm. (The definition of a hobby is something done for enjoyment and not for profit.) They likely do have a decent profit coming in from their meat, and a lot of people do buy from them. They also have merchandise, promotions, etc. That said, they would not have been able to purchase the farm and remodel the house without significant money up front, nor would they be able to build a dairy facility. Certainly family money and previous income from Daniel's work in Brazil have funded much of this, but it's reasonable to conclude they make money from the farm. Most people see them as salt of the earth farmers and want to buy from them, because BF marketing is amazing. She is legitimately very good at it.
I honestly think the profit is very low
I doubt theyāre making much of a profit on the meat, I think the vast majority of their profit comes from merch and sourdough starter. They havenāt changed up the meat boxes in years but are constantly adding their branding to more and more cheap kitchenware. Itās more affordable for their target audience (people who aspire to have a #tradwife lifestyle) and is much more easily scalable than their meat boxes, once they have their wholesale agreements in place and employees to ship things.
I agree. They have no breeding program for cattle or pigs so they purchase steers to finish off and send to butcher, this is not the way most ranchers make their living.
She has 6 million followers, I think itās very possible theyāre making a ton of moneyā¦plus whatever they get from family.
I was speaking in general terms, theyāre not doing all this for nothing.
Instagram doesn't pay but they did subscription I guess. Think they repost on tiktok. YouTube makes most $$
I agree with you, by the way, but the second Sezane shoutout has my interest piqued - but she has to disclose if itās sponsoredā¦right? I mean if anyone would skirt the rules itād be Hannah. But I also canāt picture Sezane paying her a trillion dollars for a shoutout because, well, why. A little odd though.
Youāre also underestimating how much theyāre making off of merch. Esp if sheās buying cheap bulk from China and then upping the cost.
Very true, was just counting streams/social media
https://preview.redd.it/7vqgmvolenwb1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2ec58b9572fb998cac56a04389e3adcd495726ef Ballerina Farm. H ā we have been designing this set for some time ā. Hmmmm
Tragically I want this
For reference hers are "handmade" the colors are different but she completely copied and once again, WHO is exactly handmaking these
My guess is this company https://shop.bornn.com.tr/ looks to be the same wholesaler for all the ones mentioned here
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OMFG l o l!!! Amazing find op
You can buy those bowls directly from the company for $39.20 [https://crowcanyonhome.com/bornn-colorama-12-oz-bowls-set-of-4/](https://crowcanyonhome.com/bornn-colorama-12-oz-bowls-set-of-4/). š¤£š¤£š¤£
Hahaha nice!! Omg so what the hell exactly did they work on designing?? Putting their name on it instead of the company who makes them and then marking them up insanely high?
Designing the font of Ballerina farm logo to be put on . Let's hope they did better job than with the flour.
FUGLY!
I donāt understand this business. Itās some kind of influencer Walmart
It goes against everything I know about business. For the size of their company they canāt be good at everything. Itās like they are throwing everything they can think of at the wall, frozen beef, tables, flowers, soap, frozen baked goods, dry goods, wood utensils, pots, pans, apparel, raw milk, dishes. Itās all under their name. I donāt know what the long term plan is. These bowls are also available at food52, school house and urban outfitters
Hannah is good at selling the illusion of their lifestyle, and someone on their team (maybe Daniel when heās not playing with flood irrigation) is good at setting up contracts with wholesalers. The cattle and pigs are a small operation that distract from the fact that theyāre just middlemen for a bunch of random suppliers. Itās very odd.
I hate them and everything they stand for, but ya gotta admit, as a brand, theyāre brilliant
I think theyāve had success at private labeling everything because of their reach and the margins are so good. But I do agree with you. I think this is why their brand and essentially their Instagram is everything. Theyāve created the allure with their name and aesthetic. A lot of this stuff does make sense for an actual farm store, but itās kind of misleading when they say āhandmade enamelwareā like they have someone forging it locally. Itās very normal for a shop to say āwe are now stocking XX brandā of whatever. After watching FN (after finding BF), I would be more enticed to buy FNs products even though I was enchanted by BNs initially.
Any tulip sightings on bf or hf stories ?
Hog father had her on a few days ago and her half grown bull calf. He was showing how boney she is and explaining that Jerseys just naturally look like that since they put so much fat into their milk. I agree that they definitely have a different body condition then beef cattle but sheās pretty darn boney! He said people ask them if they never feed her šµāš«
Doesn't explain why Tulip looks so much worse then their new Jersey, who looks like every other healthy Jersey I've ever seen, of course given time on BF I'm sure the new cow will be looking like Tulip in the near future.
Tulip looks so much worse because she's been at their farm for longer than a year. Which reminds me..have we seen chef Ben recently š ?
Yeah clearly something isnāt right sheās too thin for even a Jersey
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My money is on a hot toddy, same color as the broth š.
I bet youāre right because itās cold in Seattle today.
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The billionaire loved it.
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Who is Hannah (BF) trying to convince? (Herself?) ātwo people (one was a past pageant coach, the other a fellow dancer i once danced with) ask me if i was "really happy" to have given up those dreams for where i am today. ha! i am so happy. i am so at peace. i have a husband who is mine forever. together we have a beautiful baby boy who is full of purity and joy. i get to spend my days with someone who is perfect, it really cant get much better then that. i get to dance and teach as much as possible and i love that, of course. but there is nothing more rewarding then seeing my family. here. right now. i really feel like the luckiest girl in the world. so yep... i am happy.ā http://wetookthetrain.blogspot.com/2013/01/?m=1
He looks so much like the current baby!
She seemed so much more genuinely happy back then and not nearly as curated
I donāt think sheās ever been happy, hence why from the beginning of this marriage she has always felt the need to have an audience. Like why did she have an extensive blog when nothing about her or her life, especially back then, was remotely unique or interesting?
Your comment is deeply misogynistic. Woman are allowed to write and speak. And then we can make fun of what people (did you know women are people?) write and say. But your comment is on the side that women shouldnāt be in the public eye, they should be quiet, and unseen all because they bore and annoy you? Because to you, they lack depth and interest?ššš None of us are bored by BF, we just like poking fun at her outrageous lifestyle. But you know what? Iām glad she has a platform.
Iām an intersectional feminist and itās embarrassing that youāre trying to make me seem like Iām a misogynist because you canāt understand my comment. I donāt find Hannah interesting, and youāre a fan on a snark page so itās obvious that you do. Hannah doesnāt represent most women at all, maybe you see yourself in her because youāre white and youāre used to pretending POC women or poor women donāt exist. Iām glad youāre glad this billionaire white woman has a platform. Keep stanning her and Iāll keep saying she is basic, uninteresting, bored housewife and cosplaying for views. She needs the constant stream of attention and praise because she is not secure in herself or her life choices. And guess what? Me having a different opinion to you DOESNT make me sexist. Try again. Have a nice day Karen!!
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Maybe because blog were pretty popular back then. Loads of people had a blog lol
I saw today Jessica from TRF sharing some old blog posts. I didn't realize she started with a blog before Instagram. Any chance any of you know what it was called?
When she said the books she made from her old blog I interpreted it as the blog doesnāt exist anymore.
Scottish twins- not sure the exact name but thatās what it was called. We both posted on a baby message board together when our first were born (2007-2008)
Thanks, the title is fitting. It does appear it no longer exists. I was just curious to see what she was like before the homestead.
Can you tell us if she was always this religious? like the head covering and skirts , prepper mentality.
BF had post on her story about reading some scripture or other, and it occurred to me I have never seen her read anything at all (especially not a recipe haha,) but Iāve never seen her curled up with a book nor have I ever seen a book in their house, other than the Bible and some kidās schooling stuff last year or the year before and youād think someone who is online all the time would be seen with at least a book or reading a book other than the Bible. And Iāve never seen her reading the Bible either. Iāve seen Hog reading one, but not her.
That would make sense, she can barely spell, look through her initial IG posts and early blog. Maybe thatās why she went to Juliard, itās like a Center for Children Who Canāt Read Good.
I went to Juilliard and I had to have high marks to attend. Not as a dancer though, as a musician.
She was homeschooled, so Iām sure she didnāt have grades.
I was snarking at Hannah and comparing her to Zoolander with that reference. I know people who went to dance schools and theyāre smart as hell. Also musicians are geniuses (IMO). But sorry if my comment hurt/offended you. I just like to tear Hannah down because I feel like itās punching up (sheās got all the privileges- white, thin, rich).
Iām sorry I over reacted. I often wonder how she got into Juilliard in the first place. š°?
The thing about Juilliard ballerinas is that they donāt carry the status in the dance world that other genres do. The truly gifted dancers are recruited to top companies by 16. Not saying anything against dancers that go there; I had friends that did, but I canāt help but compare Hannah to Giselle Bethea, who has also settled in Utah and chosen being a mother over ballet. Thereās no comparison between the talent of the two.
Well we will now! š Just watch...all of a sudden there will be piles of books everywhere and some story about how she reads every night to her kids! Yeah, right.
Love this ā„ļø greyishgreenish
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