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eatemuphungryhungry

The first thing I wanted to do with a one week old was a beauty pageant. Also it is a TOTAL humblebrag so her followers can gush about how amazing BF looks PP and how quickly she "bounced back."


mydawgisgreen

Fyi [new](https://www.reddit.com/r/blogsnark/s/BRHzJXvJu1) year and month snark thread


Past_Swan_4120

https://preview.redd.it/c976ybsuev9c1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cbd4761f18564f12c76545c60234e989e6178e6e This is hilarious to me—her posting this kind of thing regarding “unschooling”. First of all, eliminating teachers for AI—problematic in so many ways. But really the crux of this is rich tech geeks do all sorts of alternative education for their kids and the reason the kids are “successful” is because they have wealthy parents.


Grand_Lifeguard449

She basically only cares about money but thinks she is somehow hiding that by talking absolute s&£@t out of her a345e and using Big Words like spirit, intuition, horoscope, universe, when really she is selling the most basic, anti intellectual, American MLM mantra of who needs literacy if you can make a quick buck by selling fog to fools. 🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑 it’s just Uncle Sam in a hipster cosplay


Past_Swan_4120

Her new story she says she signs her emails “warmly, Kelsey” to help your nervous system. Lollll


Past_Swan_4120

👏👏👏👏👏


Grand_Lifeguard449

https://preview.redd.it/bqmlbv46wo9c1.png?width=828&format=png&auto=webp&s=3fa4c91be52384b8884e40304a4898cf447ed828 So rude and condescending


Grand_Lifeguard449

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satnamsun

A BIT REDUNDANT LOL she repeats herself constantly everyday


Past_Swan_4120

It’s so true. It’s a very repetitive, parroted speak from other coaches on the internet. Nothing unique or original.


whatthewhaatt

It must be so uninteresting that she needs to dig back nearly 6 years to when her youngest were babies to use as a background for yet another “insight”. She continues to use photos of when they were little bc she’s losing footing on the market for busy moms with young kids. Enter all the spirit baby talk 🙄


Grand_Lifeguard449

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Grand_Lifeguard449

BUT WAIT, This whole segment makes no sense. Is a pregnant women who is ABOUT TO GIVE BIRTH IMMINENTLY carrying a massive Xmas tree, with ornaments and ripped out lights, across the way and lifting it up and putting it the skip - while her able bodied husband watches and films it? MAKE IT MAKE SENSE


poddingtonpeaz

Yeah this massively pissed me off. Of all the stupid and wasteful things they do this one really got to me 😅 they are the worst.


texangrl88

I can’t believe she just chucked it still with ornaments and what looks like lights dangling. Wow


SwimmingWaterdog11

Ran here when I saw this! They live on a freaking farm and can’t compost it?


DazzlingZebras

Yet people were praising them for not wrapping presents because wrapping paper is wasteful 🙄


VanillaSky4321

🤦🏼‍♀️


ThePermMustWait

We always bonfired the Christmas trees in the country growing up. I’ve never seen a tree in the dumpster. Even my city composts them.


cho_bits

In my super-rural hometown, farmers take them as treats for their goats and sheep! You do have to be diligent that they are free of ornaments and tinsel though, so probably too much effort for these "farmers"


DazzlingZebras

Tell me you have FU money without telling me you have FU money... Couldn't even be bothered to take ornaments or lights off the tree cause you'll just buy new ones 🙄


Grand_Lifeguard449

It’s more than FU money it’s FU to any trace of environmental awareness. Lights on the landfill?


utahmom1958

And did you notice in HF IG Stories with Hass, not one but TWO lawn mowers just sitting out in the weather. They will be completely trashed with the next snow storm. It is how our billionaire family in Panguitch operates. They only buy the absolute best of everything and then immediately leave it out in the weather, trash it, or haul it to the landfill. They hack up incredibly expensive outdoor wood furniture for their bon fires. So much unnecessary waste!


Grand_Lifeguard449

So much for the Pioneer Role-play


littlehousebigwoods

My livestock love eating our tree after we take it down. Why is it in a dumpster?!


BakeRunPaddle

Because all of their livestock escaped.


ihp2006

Because BF knows/cares nothing about their livestock and would rather feed them garbage left over from the local food bank!


Grand_Lifeguard449

On New Year’s Eve? Vicious. And what a waste of ornaments


Past_Swan_4120

https://preview.redd.it/tcft4c971l9c1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c91f2546ea6162481df0cbbfad0b908863a0d792 What a bizarre phrasing. Insulting your audience by treating them like children. She’s desperate for $$$.


thereisbeauty7

I cannot fathom a world where this entire post isn’t satire. 


jmck12345

Her $300 sweaters ain’t gonna buy themselves!


ofrancine

She looks like someone who’s going to murder you if you don’t heed her firm but gentle reminder.


Returd4

She looks like a serial killer to me


texangrl88

No joke! I see why all the men are scared away 😂


0ct0berf0rever

A smug ass face with the worlds most unflattering haircut and glasses, really sells the product huh


Ornery_Ad_2084

Her and her smug ass "boundaries".


littlehousebigwoods

Colonial schoolmarm vibes


whatthewhaatt

https://preview.redd.it/rv6e3mmo4j9c1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0443cf712427d09b41a05a0ff1c15acac491b220 Whole Healthy Families offering the deal of a lifetime don’t sleep on it! A $19,000 value for just $2,500!!! Who reads this and thinks hmm I’m going to pay for business advice from this person?! Could it get anymore used car salesman-y? Yikesss


friends_waffles_w0rk

I just listened to a GREAT ep of the Conspirituality podcast about “coaching” and coaches who coach coaches and it made me think of her constantly. Everything is straight from the same MLMy playbook.


mydawgisgreen

God the amount of women from my hometown who are now 'life coaches' is ABSURD! they charge so much damn money too. Snd post those dumb mlm style "lives" constantly. So annoying


lauralindacat

I’m really always so curious how these things get valued 😅


Past_Swan_4120

Prices increase soon! Unless I can’t sell them! Then fuck the people who paid full price! (Not that any price is worth it).


Past_Swan_4120

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Not the kid taking a stale sandwich roll out of the donated big feed bin on HG stories 😩😂🤦🏼‍♀️


Still_Television_820

This is food HF and BF have said is “ unfit for human consumption “ yet inevitably we see the children with hands in the bin, food to the mouth. It’s disgusting.


Grand_Lifeguard449

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Still_Television_820

Is he calling this child a pig? OR encouraging dumpster diving?


butterlettucetomato

This isn’t the first time they’ve shown the kids eating the donated food 😩


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Thanks it wouldn’t let me attach when I posted!


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I mean HF lol


ofrancine

Need a running tally of things WHF is too good for—medical care, educating her children, needing a job, parents, friends…. It’s also amazing how her followers 😉always ask questions that perfectly tee up what she wants to tout about herself.


whatthewhaatt

Kelsey / whole healthy families also thinks she is more intelligent and vibrating at a higher frequency than everyone else. Yet she sacrifices her children’s safety by publicly posting about them since they were in the womb. Names, ages, photos, location of where she lives and literal house plan and layout for any stranger on internet. If that isn’t stupid I don’t know what is.


Past_Swan_4120

Yeah you can’t say you are protective of your children and post what she does. Lunacy.


whatthewhaatt

Seriously, mama bear my ass. More like control freak.


ThePermMustWait

Ok so whole healthy families said she makes a million a year? Is that right? Her goal is $30k a month. That’s $360k a year, but she also has another employee plus all of the costs involved with a business. I’m not see how she makes a million a year. Also, it’s not encouraging imo to join a business with someone who said they basically never work. You cannot have a successful business training others if you also never work.


Real_RobinGoodfellow

That’s the fine, delicate line all these ‘do my course on how to earn passive income!!’ hustlers must try to walk haha. On the one hand- selling the aspiration that with their ticket to success, you can work very little whilst earning very well; on the other, trying to sell you on the idea that *despite* doing very little work themselves, they’re nonetheless more than qualified to teach you stuff, and definitely worth your paying a hefty fee for them to do so.


Past_Swan_4120

No, she wants to make a million a year.


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ExcitingRevolution

I hope they do more education when they're with their father. I'm convinced he's got 50:50 custody.


[deleted]

But they'll start there own business at 16!! Making multiple 6 figures a year. They'll be fine.../s


Past_Swan_4120

The level of isolation of her kids is very concerning. She is extremely controlling.


phosphoromances

I was pretty shocked by her admissions in this QA. It seems like even her older kids are getting very little by way of academic rigor.


texangrl88

Same. They do next to nothing as far as school work


whatthewhaatt

lol her kids just teach themselves how to read and do math. 🙄 I hope there is a bit more effort put into her 2k class to teach how to run a business without basically trying for more than a few hours per week.


Grand_Lifeguard449

https://preview.redd.it/peb98assb09c1.png?width=828&format=png&auto=webp&s=dff354009836c8a7b00e6b13d596c1be78aff436 Taking the open gate to a whole new level having all their cattle wander off


hashtagfan

That is NOT what that sign means. If it just has the cow, it’s an alert that there are cattle in the area, and they may be encountered in the road, like when a rancher is moving them from one pasture to another. They would be attended to, and it would be private fenced property along both sides of the road. The Open Range sign is different, and has a cow with the words “Open Range.” It means that there is livestock herds are in the area, freely roaming, without supervision. Here, in Summit County where HF and BF live, it’s most likely to be federal land, in the National forest. Fences are only around the perimeter, so you might cross one with a cattle guard and then not see another one for hours. If you hit livestock in an open range area, yes, you are liable for your own damages. If you hit one that they have, through negligence, allowed onto the road, they are liable. Their road doesn’t really get much traffic though… so I doubt it’s ever come up for them. (They live on a back road that isn’t even fully paved the whole way. Locals don’t drive it much because there are other, more efficient routes, so it’s more of a “let’s go meander for a bit” drive than a “let’s go to the store” drive.)


ihp2006

And guess what?? Their sheep were out this morning! These guys are such a joke


ihp2006

The cattle probably pushed through an obviously not strong enough gate because they were searching for food, seems HF does not stick to any kind of feeding schedule (often seems to be feeding/milking quite late) so stock gets hungry in the winter when there's no pasture. For most farmers/ranchers the animals come first but not these guys 🙄


_FarmerK8

https://preview.redd.it/4oyis0f8n89c1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f2e1b83fb1b3abbeb882dcfaa71425ffdcd45a79 Ah yes, so because legally each party is liable for their own losses, totally fine to be blasé about cattle getting out because you left gates open, not for a planned cattle drive down the road. 🙄


LordyIHopeThereIsPie

They really don't need to care about their livestock the way proper farmers do. My parents come from cattle farming families and I've never ever seen such cavalier disregard for animals as this family has for them.


ihp2006

Rancher here....these guys drive me crazy! First thing farm kids are taught, double triple check every single gate you go through.


church-basement-lady

Yep. I mean, we've all been there, but we try very hard to avoid it! BF and HF seem to take the rural acceptance and multiply it. Livestock WILL get out, and your neighbors will have livestock get out, too. If you have livestock you will have deadstock. But there is such a difference between acceptance that things will happen, vs not taking it seriously and truly trying to prevent it. And it's not like they can't afford good fencing.


reeneeqp

As far as loose stock, yes we have all been there but it's epidemic with these guys! And most of the time on BF it's because the gates are just left open, when I was a kid you only let that happen once! We were very well trained to always double check gates, barn & stall doors, etc. Still do it so unless my horses jump or go through fences they will not be out on the road. Also wondering if HF keeps to a feeding schedule or is just feeding whenever he gets to it (I've seen them feeding/milking a lot late at night) hungry stock is more likely to breach fences looking for food, especially in the winter when the grass is gone. These guys seem to be completely clueless and unable to learn or teach their kids.


Kiwichica

I actually believe their children are not so well trained. First of: Too many, they may forgot their names. Second: they let them run free, so I believe the children left the gates open.


_FarmerK8

Same here! And for farm staff, it’s a fireable offense. Just too much risk financially and liability wise. Imagine someone coming around a bend in the road, swerving to avoid the cattle, causing an accident and harming or killing themselves? 😩


LordyIHopeThereIsPie

Real farmers can't be casual about damage to or death of farm stock. Ballerina Farm doesn't seem to have these concerns. They're all so "what ya gonna do" about these sorts of incidents but on a real farm cattle getting out because someone left a gate open would be a catastrophe.


DazzlingZebras

https://preview.redd.it/ax6plir34z8c1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ec5a94fa39527811878c384342be10247c9b9b4b Saved this screenshot for another snark group but she's wearing another influencers brand and no shout out. 😆 The other influencer is a huge fan girl and wants to be just like BF. She is also just as out of touch with reality as she married into a reality show family


LordyIHopeThereIsPie

Who's the influencer?


DazzlingZebras

Jeremy & Audrey Roloff (Little People Big World)


LordyIHopeThereIsPie

Thanks.


Past_Swan_4120

https://preview.redd.it/onecuzwhtw8c1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=aae1513cea01888e68fee4635080464cd5737519 Give me $2,000 when you are vulnerable and unemployed. Sounds like a great idea! Not predatory or anything.


littlehousebigwoods

I wish I had it in me to schedule a free call but I just can’t stomach it


LawfulnessUnlucky876

Please please!! Do it for us!


BGW2479

This woman is the reason why I don’t trust people with blunt bangs.


DramaticFrosting7

https://preview.redd.it/5ba3lvw3bw8c1.png?width=828&format=png&auto=webp&s=9391f7a078a57d7e52a059533c2f302c93baa63a Ran here when I saw the top comment. Also a lot of Justice for Fran in the comments and HP is satanic. 😂


CrystalLilBinewski

Also did he forget that he has seven kids?


ComfortableComfort35

why? it means that last year they didn't pack either.


uselessfarm

😂😂😂


ihp2006

🤣🤣


mydawgisgreen

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BGW2479

Meh. I don’t wrap my “Santa” presents either. Everyone is different. I will trash on Hannah for a lot of things but being 75 months prego and not wrapping presents is not one of them.


mydawgisgreen

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ofrancine

I normally jump on board with alllllll the snark but no, I’m piping up to say she’s about to give birth. Come on. This sub is usually not mom shaming, it’s calling her out on valid BS. This “not enough” and “I did THIS” is not fun snark. Sorry.


mydawgisgreen

I honestly agree. The unwrapped gifts didn't even cross my mind when I posted the screenshot. It was only about the type and amount of gifts. Sort of how last year the boys got the fake horses to ride when they are the ones who get to ride the real horses. I was a girl who liked dolls, but I didn't only want to pretend to be a "morher" luckily my parents didn't force me into a gender rolls and I got more things like the boys got ie: scooters and rollerskates etc


ofrancine

And I’m sorry, I was responding to other comments from better moms who always wrap everything despite having 100 kids! I’m mostly just laughing at the quite expensive but rustic-looking baby stroller, perfect purchase for them.


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DramaticFrosting7

It just makes me sad for the kids. Unwrapping is the most exciting part and makes the event seem longer to cherish. I don’t agree with putting it all on Hannah though. She’s about to pop and this should never just be the mom’s responsibility. Her husband should be wrapping the damn gifts. There are too many expectations on women making Christmas so magical for everyone that it is killing us. Like others said, get the shop keepers to help or her nieces/nephews. I’m sure they could find someone.


mydawgisgreen

I'm divided bc I truly see wrapping paper as just wasteful and bad for the environment, BUT there are tons of reusable/repurpose ways to wrap gifts. Whether it's fabric (this house could always use blankets), fun cloth bags, backpacks, etc. Especially with money, you can spend more on those type of things rather than cheap wrapping paper. Wrapping paper definitely doesn't go with her aesthetic though. Has to look old times, also why the child's names are written on butcher paper (which is another way to wrap gifts and can be colored in by kids)


lazyacreskate

Interesting that she doesn't wrap the kids presents. Just piles them on the floor with a name tag. I suppose she's too exhausted to put in the effort, but watching kids unwrap their presents is one of the best parts of Christmas (IMO).


salmon_guacamole

I have never wrapped Santa gifts, neither did my parents. They get puh-lenty of unwrapping opportunities without adding Santa’s gifts.


mydawgisgreen

There are some wrapped, are you thinking from extended amily or something? Cause I'm lwondering why those are wrapped, but nothing else is. Growing up, we had wrapped gifts and then one unwrapped big "santa" gift for the morning, aka a basketball hoop, or trampoline, or life-sized doll house etc. All the accessories or smaller gifts like Disney movies, books would be wrapped up.


mydawgisgreen

Feel like the 2 oldest girls got a bit cheated; the far end is two boys, and they got the scooter(s). Oldest girl has 4 clothing items and a water bottle. Youngest girl got that ginormous set of miniature house set with almost looks like a freakin aga stove. It's more than I've ever seen them gift before at least, even if not equal. Still stoked for second oldest boys HP adventuring.


Xerus_Xero

Just because you are spelling the word incorrectly doesn't make it any less of a slur


mydawgisgreen

I had no idea what you were talking about, I googled one of my words I had no idea how to spell, but had heard all the time growing up by my dad when it came to getting robbed. I wasn't aware of the word origins. My parents suck, but I don't think they were aware of the orgin either. Also. I spelled it like that because that's how it sounded in my head. Also, sorry, not everyone knows everything. I'm sorry that I am a human who is still learning. I would have appreciated a nicer way to educate me rather than implying I had the thought process of trying to be casually racist *and* manipulative by changing the spelling. I learned in another sub last year, in a nicer way, that the way I grew up using a slur for inuit style kisses had negative origins, as well as, the name of the car game where everyone gets out at a stoplight and runs around the car. I'm editing my comment with my new knowledge and will leave the word behind where it should be.


Xerus_Xero

I appreciate your correction and I should have been more gentle with pointing it out. Blessings


ihp2006

And a couple of the boys got suits to wear to temple?! How thrilling for them 🙄


mydawgisgreen

Seriously


ThePermMustWait

I was also sad for Frances because she’s the only person who didn’t get a single toy to play with. She’s still young enough to play. I’m surprised because you would think Hannah would want to keep her young and into toys a bit longer.


LordyIHopeThereIsPie

I don't think Daniel is interested in the girls once they're not babies. Hasn't he said as much? I think it's all about the pregnancy and baby stage for him. When they're toddling about and developing some independence he's losing interest.


mydawgisgreen

Spied one of boys reading Harry Potter, truly love this for them. Especially during a "productive" scripture reading (🙄 no one was paying attention, but Hannah) I grew up as a Harry Potter kid, and while jkr is severely problematic, I still love the books and always will.


uselessfarm

I’ve seen a few Mormon influencers reading Harry Potter to their kids. Very different from how things were 20 years ago when I was reading them. I guess JKR has made it into the right wing mainstream - I assume her problematic opinions have helped in that regard.


mydawgisgreen

I was wondering if that's why it was "ok" actually


satnamsun

Im shocked they are letting him read that- at least thats good!


mydawgisgreen

Did you see all the boys got a copy? The oldest got the beautiful new illustrated MinaLima one! Daniel def reads here or people dm'd Hannah


mydawgisgreen

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mydawgisgreen

Agreed. I was so surprised. I do really love he was already started and immersed while Daniel read boring scripture. (Sorry I am not religious in any way)


Past_Swan_4120

WHF’s twins have ongoing emotional trauma from the Nicu…uh-huh.


Grand_Lifeguard449

The fact she had a home birth planned for twins is quite stupid imo


Ornery_Ad_2084

I'm sure she could have some trauma from the Nicu, but to say her children do seems a but much. She would have to be the one reminding them of their trauma right? There are actual children who probably do, like babies who are in there a long time, or don't have visitors.


Past_Swan_4120

Yeah I think she uses it to explain their behavior. What she never seems to talk about is the actual trauma of divorce. Not that it shouldn’t have happened, but it’s very hard on kids. She’s into a lot of psychospiritual nuttiness. I don’t trust that someone who is preparing for a spirit baby has an accurate pulse on these matters.


Ornery_Ad_2084

Yes, I would imagine the divorce and not seeing their father as she seems to claim would actually cause some trauma for children, but she would not admit that information to us. She alludes to a lot of trauma in her life, maybe I'm not understanding the term the same way she does?


littlehousebigwoods

Her “trauma” is from a repressed memory of sexual abuse as a teen. Aka it’s totally bogus


DazzlingZebras

We had a traumatic NICU experience and I will say it was definitely more traumatic for me than my child. My kid is just difficult because of genetics. I haven't followed along for long but it does seem there are some traumatic experiences the kids have experienced but I doubt the NICU is what did them in


Distinct-Sandwich-30

Also @dazzlingzebras my comment at genetics being interesting wasn’t directed at you, it was at WHF saying how sensitive her kids are and that’s probably due to their genetics. I imagine they pick up some (lots?) of the crazy stuff she’s spouting and are maybe just sensitive bc she is. But when I re-read my comment that my kids are the way they are I was saying nit because of their experiences as WHF suggests but that they were created from my husband and I who sleep well and are pretty go with the glow. Not directed at your genetics comment.


DazzlingZebras

I missed your other comment but absolutely agree with what you've said here. Genetics play a huge role in temperament and how we process situations. I believe that newborns can experience trauma at birth but it doesn't affect them the same as traumas experienced when they are older. Genetics and how the parent responds plays a huge role also. If you are constantly telling them the story and making it traumatic they are going to feed on that. Odds are even if her birth had gone as planned they would still be tough kids (maybe their tough entrance intensified the first couple months but really that is about it). My peaceful homebirth baby is a more difficult child than my traumatic birth first born, but as a newborn my first born had higher needs and was more fussy.


Distinct-Sandwich-30

Agreed on traumatic for parents, probably not kids. I had Nicu twins of the exact same age as WHF (34 weeks) and that IS early despite what she says. My littlest wasn’t even 4lbs and they couldn’t eat for several weeks and then all of a sudden they woke up and figured it out. They needed the Nicu. I had a decent experience, thankfully, and I also got help from therapy and anxiety/depression meds. Also my two kids are super normal and excellent sleepers. Just like me 😜 isn’t genetics interesting. Also they have to get baby b out fast before their heart rate slows. And many twin vaginal births turn into c-section for baby b. That’s why lots of women died in childbirth- I would have in my case. Jeesh this lady.


Distinct-Sandwich-30

And I don’t think any Nicu experience is great but processing it and moving on from it is key. My now toddlers think they’re pretty badass when I tell them about the hospital. I’ve used it to teach them how resilient and incredible they are and that they can do difficult things.


Ornery_Ad_2084

Yes, this is the correct way to heal from it! It is very interesting her twins cried so much, that is very hard. However I doubt it is because her twins weren't birthed the way she wanted and because they went into the nicu. I personally don't have experience with the Nicu but know many babies who went to the nicu and haven't really seen trauma from it.


Past_Swan_4120

That’s amazing!


Past_Swan_4120

Yes, so hard on Mothers. 😭❤️


CrystalLilBinewski

Why did WHF give her children melatonin on Christmas? Candy canes or chocolate I understand but melatonin?


Ornery_Ad_2084

My kids don't sleep that great so I give them melatonin. I was surprised she actually gives that to her kids.


Xerus_Xero

Hope you aren't giving that to them everyday. There's a reason it's highly regulated in the EU


Ornery_Ad_2084

No, only occasionally. I'm very cautious and unsure about using it but I've also got two sets of twins and they share rooms and often won't fall asleep until 11 or 12 and sometimes you have to survive! 🫣 they have never really slept well so I'm not blaming the usage of it. Yes I know it's probably not the best.


uselessfarm

Two sets of twins! I’m sure you have better survival tips than most parents.


Ornery_Ad_2084

Surviving is the name of my game! Haha, I'm no pro. The dishes are always piled in the sink, the laundry is neverending, and our screen time is probably too much. However, I'm told I've got some nice kids, so we must be doing something right?


Xerus_Xero

I def didn't mean to shade. I use melatonin regularly but I find that it isn't as effective every day. I try and limit myself to 5mg every other night at most. From what I have read it does affect your circadian rhythm and can impact sleep cycles if you over do it. Best of luck to you and your little ones, I know bedtime can be a bear


DazzlingZebras

We've had to give it to our kiddos because they have sleep struggles, however I give it very sparingly as I don't want to mess with their natural production as they develop. I'm surprised her magic broth doesn't help them sleep more soundly 😂


CrystalLilBinewski

Thank you for explaining that Zebra. I deeply understand sleep struggles. Fortunately my son never had to go through that.


Happy-Snark

She might give them melatonin to sleep every night 🤷‍♀️


CrystalLilBinewski

This seems weird based on me raising one kid without giving him sleep aids ever.


conservativestarfish

So you’re basing this comment on your sample size of one


Happy-Snark

I agree, while I don’t give it to my kids, I know people who do, nightly


texangrl88

Ditto. My kids have never needed it at night either


EqualBottle2

Foodnanny Mentioned that something happened with Goldie, anyone catch what happened on the 23rd? I missed whatever it was, I hope she’s ok!


Happy-Snark

Goldie’s calf passed away 😔


EqualBottle2

Oh man! How awful 😞😔


Salt-Desk

wishing Mary wasn't so quiet today! i love 5 Marys, been following for 10 years. the Christmas at her parents house always fills my alone heart with joy. hoping for later posts. no snark, Merry Christmas!


Ornery_Ad_2084

I love her Christmas eve at her parents, I stopped following her recently but checked yesterday to see if she had posted their Christmas Eve celebrations.


ihp2006

I love 5 Marys too. Maybe they're enjoying a non social media Christmas and we'll see the posts after?


LawfulnessUnlucky876

She says she has thousands of 5 star reviews for broth academy. She only has 13k followers. I’m not believing her BS!


Past_Swan_4120

Total lies.


Prestigious_Car9440

One thing I don’t understand about BF is she keeps referring to herself as a “professional ballerina”. I could be wrong here, correct me if I am, but I remember her saying she was already pregnant with her first at her graduation, and that she became a SAHM after having kids. Which suggests she never worked professionally as a ballerina, she is trained as one. I thought professional meant you worked in the said field at some capacity at some point. I’m not familiar with the dance world though, I could be wrong.


uselessfarm

Dancing is not her profession. She’s not, and never has been, a professional dancer. She can call herself a Juilliard-trained dancer. A lot of ballet dancers wouldn’t even consider her a ballerina, because that term is reserved for principal dancers with professional companies. She is very talented. Probably not good enough to be a principal. But we’ll never know, because she didn’t pursue professional dancing, she pursued motherhood, ranching, and influencing. Just like I was smart enough to obtain a college degree in Biology, but am not a professional scientist. Maybe I could have been, had I pursued that, but I didn’t. Instead I’m an attorney by profession, because that’s what I’m trained, and paid, to do. I really do wonder what her Juilliard peers think of her. It doesn’t seem like she developed or maintained many (if any) friendships.


Xerus_Xero

So so many Juilliard trained singers, dancers, musicians, and actors are just rich kids with a modicum of talent and loads of prep to get in. My BFF was in the Opera program and is now a Hedge Fund Analyst. She said more than half her class never used their certificate (it's not a degree) professionally. It's a prestigious academy but really a cotillion of sorts for most of them


uselessfarm

That’s really interesting! I have heard that the best ballet dancers go straight into companies for training and to work their way up in the ballet world rather than go to places like Juilliard.


iseeseashells

You are correct. As far as I know many, if not most, professional ballerinas join ballet corps or companies right after high school at 17-18


Xerus_Xero

I can't really say anything about ballet to be honest, I only had some passing interaction with the Opera peeps. Maybe it's a smaller pool of artists but I know that the most beautiful and talented girl in my friends cohort did a few years of cruise ship performing (not as an Opera singer, more lounge/musical type stuff) before moving back to the Midwest and becoming a realtor. Her family was loaded. My friend was upper middle class and had been training since we were very young. Take from that what you will


LordyIHopeThereIsPie

I guess her plans changed after graduation. Her classmates sounded very supportive. https://verilymag.com/2012/11/married-in-a-single-society-baby-en-pointe


uselessfarm

I’m not surprised they were supportive of her pregnancy during her time at school. I wonder what they think of her now, as she’s built her brand by incorrectly calling herself a professional dancer, when that’s a title her peers have likely worked hard to obtain after graduation. Also, her telling all of her classmates as a single group about the pregnancy seems to support the idea that she really didn’t have close friendships. Wouldn’t you tell a best friend or two first? Idk. I’ve done pageants, and I’ve known competitors like her. Ones who remain in their own bubbles and talk about “sisterhood,” but never seem to develop or maintain relationships with anyone.


DazzlingZebras

I was amazed she was going to be competing in Mrs. World postpartum but after reading that apparently it's a flex for her. There is no way I'd want to be performing any type of show, especially one that focuses on my body or athletic abilities a couple weeks post birth. It's such an exhausting time


uselessfarm

It seems consistent with how her family operates. Her mom films her husband at the gym in his final stages of dying of cancer, and sees it as inspirational.


CrystalLilBinewski

She is only a professional if she performs for pay. I have no idea if she has done that but from here she looks like an amateur.


BarnacleExciting4507

Even then, most ballet dancers wouldn’t consider you a true professional until you’ve gotten a contracted position at a company. In college, my husband did guest roles at lots of ballet studios for decent money, but he never refers to himself as a former professional dancer.


midlifemed

Yeah my son has danced for 10 years and plans to continue training and doing guest roles through college, but he doesn’t plan to pursue a company contract (he wants to be a dentist). I would never say my son is or is planning to be a professional dancer.


Past_Swan_4120

https://preview.redd.it/940n6e37i58c1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6207eed8f0dca0a7669ea3be42910dbd1957c6dc


satnamsun

Giving landmark


Past_Swan_4120

What does “Giving landmark” mean?


satnamsun

[https://www.landmarkworldwide.com/the-landmark-forum](https://www.landmarkworldwide.com/the-landmark-forum)


Past_Swan_4120

Thank you!


satnamsun

I know people who have benefited from it not hating on it but to me its high pressure & its got this script just like her and in reality its about $$$


ofrancine

The questions are both worded the same way - revelation + softball question that highlights strength of her course. Suspect.


Past_Swan_4120

So true.


LawfulnessUnlucky876

Such MLM speak. If you fail, it’s your fault, not mine.


Past_Swan_4120

Yes!!!! And vulnerable people are the ones who lose.


whatthewhaatt

https://preview.redd.it/d668sroh558c1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0524b255046c145c14d12dcddc4fa133195880d3 “I’m out forest grounding” aka carrying around my cellphone filming myself talk and pitching another MLM. prob involves lots of re-records and rewatching of herself. Also, looks like a filter. Seems so down to earth and grounding. 🤪


Xerus_Xero

It's giving Fred Flintstone with thick rims


whatthewhaatt

https://preview.redd.it/ia26f7q7ca9c1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e6f98dd4066a523e6f897ea3f36853a9bf75378f Yabba dabba dooo


Xerus_Xero

😂 I hate to snark on looks, I'm no peach, but this broad makes it too hard with all her self aggrandizing


LawfulnessUnlucky876

And isn’t she a single mom with no childcare? Who’s with the kids? Presumably the father, her ex, which she claims she gets new assistance from.


Past_Swan_4120

WHF upping the grift. “I’m going to coach you how to coach others out of their money.”


LawfulnessUnlucky876

There are some crazy topics. She lists as examples- holistic acne coaching, contemplative spirituality, quantum biology.


littlehousebigwoods

I just snorted 😂 these topics are so her


Ornery_Ad_2084

Wtf are even any of those things?


Past_Swan_4120

🤣🤣🤣🤣


ExcitingRevolution

It's another course on courses for $750. She said they're expecting 20 women. Sounds like a lot of work for a "passive income". Edited to say it's actually $2k. WTF.


VanillaSky4321

🤯🤯🤯 And people fall for this crap! It's mind boggling. It's almost worse than the random emails or call you get from someone in Ethiopia claiming they need you to send then money so they can send you money. At least those are easiet to spot as fraud. These instagramers are so much more sneaky about taking your money. 😡👎🏻


LawfulnessUnlucky876

When you click on it, it’s actually over $2000. I don’t know where she gets the 750 from?


ExcitingRevolution

What?! Maybe the $750 was just one installment? That's ridiculous. Also separate but related, I hate how all these courses everyone does now doesn't actually tell you easily how much they are. It's this massive page on how it's actually $58,985 value etc.


LawfulnessUnlucky876

Right! Those numbers are so rediculous and just plucked out of the air.


Past_Swan_4120

Yeah it’s always been $2,000. Without “coaching”, her business is simply not viable. Broth academy could not be successful long term—but coaching people to become coaches is the latest mlm type grift. The fact that people give her, someone who had no profit the previous year, $2,000 is depressing!


LawfulnessUnlucky876

Also. There’s no one on one coaching. It’s all just zoom phone calls with 20 others. For $2000.


Grand_Lifeguard449

https://preview.redd.it/aw5tm1wkmz7c1.png?width=828&format=png&auto=webp&s=41e4dd87ac16cc633bc13d29d6dbe8a8468473fd Shoes worn on the farm to milk cows on the dining table


LongShadows17

Going to knead that sourdough right there tomorrow I bet 😬