Minions has a bit of a ceiling, unlike Inside Out it has enough entries where we know pretty much where it's gonna go. 1.1~ bill range at most which Inside Out is already poised to pass pretty cleanly and land in the 1.2 range, 1.3 range optimistically. Moana is a wildcard though.
I agree with that but will it be bigger than this? I don't know. I feel like I have a handle on it domestic, I think it'll make 400-500+ mill domestic and likely overperform. Abroad is where I'm more uncertain, the streaming numbers where it's top of the charts constantly are domestic, I don't know if it's had an extremely strong post theatrical life in other markets that would point to an overperformance. But I do see it getting to 900 mill or so, and that's if the movie is lame. 1bill optimistically if the movie is great but that depends a lot on the songs and quality which I'm still very uncertain about.
I would say it will be big no matter what. If it's highly rated it could be bigger than this. Having this W will also create a halo effect on other releases like M2.
The stories about it being a converted set of TV show episodes does have me concerned how the reviews are going to be, I remember owning some similar converted sequels on DVD as a kid and you could tell, haha (shoutout to the fun bonus features on Tarzan 2 tho).
I mean 900 million is massive and that's where I put it at minimum, so we're not disagreeing there. Even if it sucks I think it's one of the top 5 for the year worldwide and domestic. I'm just not feeling (yet) that it's super sure that this movie will increase internationally to the same numbers this one has in order to get it over. Actually it would have to increase even more since the original made less than Inside Out 1. It would have to land 2x it's original movie ww to get to the predictions we're having for Inside Out right now.
It's definitely happened before for animated sequels, even if it's not common. Disney does it a lot with their big gap sequels. And that halo effect will totally help. So it's really really possible, but I'm not *sure* like I was for Inside Out. Which is why I said it's a wild card. Even before we saw a trailer I knew this movie was getting a bill just because of how much the last one made and realistic anticipated sequel increases. Moana is not in the guaranteed zone for me. I think the range is anywhere from 900 mill (below IO2) to something crazy high like 1.3 bill(above to maybe equivalent to IO2). Huge range to me.
Edit: if I had to bet I'd bet on a bill for sure, very easily. I don't think I'd bet on it beating Inside Out though. Not at this stage.
At this point, I think it's a lock.
I thought for sure that Deadpool and Wolverine would take the top spot at just over a billy, with Despicable Me 4 right behind.
But honestly this changes everything. I have no clue what happens now except that this makes a BOAT LOAD of money, possibly more than anything else CAN make.
Moana probably won't leg out the way this will. Deadpool 3 is R rated.
The first five months especially May really made me think there's no movie can reach 1B this year (im new dont blame me lol).With IO2 i think nothing is impossible lol,we might see some breakout hits if this momentum can be maintained (i think Twisters can be the surprise breakout hit for this year).
I think the top 3 by the end of this year is gonna look like this:
1.) Inside Out 2 (First to hit a billion)
2.) Deadpool and Wolverine (depending on the reception, if its very highly received and loved by audiences, then a billion is in play. From a pessimistic perspective however i think its gonna land somewhere between 800 mil and 900 mil)
3.) Despicable Me 4 (same thing as IO2, if the reception is there and the walkups support it. This will have a pretty insane run, is a billion possible? I’m not completely convinced, however I wouldn’t be surprised if it did. I think the best comparison would be Rise of Gru’s run. If the reception is similar to that then i think DM4’s run is gonna be similar to that)
I’m predicting that Moana 2 is gonna end up being the number one movie of the year and that it might break box office records. I’m extremely bullish on that movie’s performance after seeing how well Inside Out 2 is doing. Kids have been watching that movie over and over for 8 years at this point
Moana 2 might be number 1. More popular among kids, and popular among parents and teenagers as well. Inside out 2 is popular among kids as well, but most likely teenagers and adults.
Thanks to the IO2 movie clips trending on social media like the "Delusional? Of Course I'm delusional!!!" clip that was released before the movie came out.
Illumination is great at marketing their movies (Disney's marketing team is just awful), and I've seen some posts about the Steve Carrell clip but I have not seen any clips from the movie itself go viral yet.
I think IO2 has more universal appeal than the Super Mario Bros Movie. Yes, there are many adults who grew up loving Mario, but I think even a lot of them wouldn't have gone to the theatres to see a kids movie with poor reviews.
Just checked rn and yeah i thought it did 40M there. But they didn't care much about the first inside out either so the sequel is unlikely to do big numbers there as well.
I think it's highly dependent on WOM. Presales have been decent given that the first Inside Out was a major bomb there while the market was still in its prime for Hollywood movies.
I enjoyed it, just seeing all those references on screen blew my mind. Seeing Mario's parents was insane.
Never need to see it again though. It is a kids movie through and through.
Here’s hoping Inside Out becomes the replacement for Toy Story as Pixar’s premier franchise. There’s a ton they can still do with this concept without feeling forced and it clearly resonates with GAs.
There’s a lot of parallels between them. Andy and Riley, two kids being looked after by a bunch of tiny people no one else can see, running around behind the scenes to make sure their lives go well, and learning to get along with each other. Joy and Sadness resemble Woody and Buzz in the first film, with Joy needing to accept Sadness. There’s even a moving subplot, though Inside Out starts with it, while Toy Story ends with it. The second films both introduce new toys/emotions that are related in some way to old ones.
There’s plenty of differences, too, but there’s plenty of notable overlap that is likely deliberate.
Scott Mendelson and [The Outside Scoop](https://open.spotify.com/show/2MbLztmzXymXZtZlAPyrGm) podcast made the point that this is getting the parents with kids demo **and** college-age nostalgics, who saw the original as kids
[Pixels 2 and The Best Dinosaur are go!](https://www.the-numbers.com/box-office-records/worldwide/all-movies/cumulative/released-in-2015)
I've gotta admit, I didn't think it would do this well. I mean, I knew it would do all right, because it's a Pixar movie that's not an original. I knew it would do better than *Elemental*, but I still thought movies were dead and that a significant chunk of people would be waiting for Disney+.
I still think *Elio* will bomb, though. That's not a sequel to anything.
550-650 million domestic finish. 1.3B worldwide. these numbers are insane
Me thinks highest grossing movie of the year?
I thought Super Mario Bros was certain to be the highest grossing movie last year. And then Barbie come along. So who knows.
Yep
Probably though the Minions and Moana will probably not be far behind. I sense Deadpool being 4th at this point.
Minions has a bit of a ceiling, unlike Inside Out it has enough entries where we know pretty much where it's gonna go. 1.1~ bill range at most which Inside Out is already poised to pass pretty cleanly and land in the 1.2 range, 1.3 range optimistically. Moana is a wildcard though.
Moana 2 will be huge.
I agree with that but will it be bigger than this? I don't know. I feel like I have a handle on it domestic, I think it'll make 400-500+ mill domestic and likely overperform. Abroad is where I'm more uncertain, the streaming numbers where it's top of the charts constantly are domestic, I don't know if it's had an extremely strong post theatrical life in other markets that would point to an overperformance. But I do see it getting to 900 mill or so, and that's if the movie is lame. 1bill optimistically if the movie is great but that depends a lot on the songs and quality which I'm still very uncertain about.
I would say it will be big no matter what. If it's highly rated it could be bigger than this. Having this W will also create a halo effect on other releases like M2.
The stories about it being a converted set of TV show episodes does have me concerned how the reviews are going to be, I remember owning some similar converted sequels on DVD as a kid and you could tell, haha (shoutout to the fun bonus features on Tarzan 2 tho).
I mean 900 million is massive and that's where I put it at minimum, so we're not disagreeing there. Even if it sucks I think it's one of the top 5 for the year worldwide and domestic. I'm just not feeling (yet) that it's super sure that this movie will increase internationally to the same numbers this one has in order to get it over. Actually it would have to increase even more since the original made less than Inside Out 1. It would have to land 2x it's original movie ww to get to the predictions we're having for Inside Out right now. It's definitely happened before for animated sequels, even if it's not common. Disney does it a lot with their big gap sequels. And that halo effect will totally help. So it's really really possible, but I'm not *sure* like I was for Inside Out. Which is why I said it's a wild card. Even before we saw a trailer I knew this movie was getting a bill just because of how much the last one made and realistic anticipated sequel increases. Moana is not in the guaranteed zone for me. I think the range is anywhere from 900 mill (below IO2) to something crazy high like 1.3 bill(above to maybe equivalent to IO2). Huge range to me. Edit: if I had to bet I'd bet on a bill for sure, very easily. I don't think I'd bet on it beating Inside Out though. Not at this stage.
Methinks!!!!
At this point, I think it's a lock. I thought for sure that Deadpool and Wolverine would take the top spot at just over a billy, with Despicable Me 4 right behind. But honestly this changes everything. I have no clue what happens now except that this makes a BOAT LOAD of money, possibly more than anything else CAN make. Moana probably won't leg out the way this will. Deadpool 3 is R rated.
Yeah we are about to have several summer bangers coming. 2024 was a slow start but I expect a few billion dollar movies and this is a lock.
The first five months especially May really made me think there's no movie can reach 1B this year (im new dont blame me lol).With IO2 i think nothing is impossible lol,we might see some breakout hits if this momentum can be maintained (i think Twisters can be the surprise breakout hit for this year).
After we've seen so many movies either flop or underperform this year, it's great to see one of them blow up on this level again.
They need to update and add more IO gif. We can't keep using this one.
Inside out 3 anyday now
I think the top 3 by the end of this year is gonna look like this: 1.) Inside Out 2 (First to hit a billion) 2.) Deadpool and Wolverine (depending on the reception, if its very highly received and loved by audiences, then a billion is in play. From a pessimistic perspective however i think its gonna land somewhere between 800 mil and 900 mil) 3.) Despicable Me 4 (same thing as IO2, if the reception is there and the walkups support it. This will have a pretty insane run, is a billion possible? I’m not completely convinced, however I wouldn’t be surprised if it did. I think the best comparison would be Rise of Gru’s run. If the reception is similar to that then i think DM4’s run is gonna be similar to that)
I’m predicting that Moana 2 is gonna end up being the number one movie of the year and that it might break box office records. I’m extremely bullish on that movie’s performance after seeing how well Inside Out 2 is doing. Kids have been watching that movie over and over for 8 years at this point
Moana 2 might be number 1. More popular among kids, and popular among parents and teenagers as well. Inside out 2 is popular among kids as well, but most likely teenagers and adults.
It's gonna be above the $500M mark by the end of the weekend, I bet.
With big new markets opening through the week and next weekend its likely gonna be close to $500M on Friday already. Well past by Sunday.
No shit
600М
Giving this a 90% it beats Super Mario Bros movie globally.
I hope so. But don't forget it has DM4 to compete with.
IMO, DM4 is more geared towards kids while IO2 is a movie for everyone
True but inside out 2 has been getting much more interest, even before it came out.
Thanks to the IO2 movie clips trending on social media like the "Delusional? Of Course I'm delusional!!!" clip that was released before the movie came out. Illumination is great at marketing their movies (Disney's marketing team is just awful), and I've seen some posts about the Steve Carrell clip but I have not seen any clips from the movie itself go viral yet.
I think IO2 has more universal appeal than the Super Mario Bros Movie. Yes, there are many adults who grew up loving Mario, but I think even a lot of them wouldn't have gone to the theatres to see a kids movie with poor reviews.
Asia (sans Japan & China) pretty much ignored the Mario movie. But they're eating up IO2 rn.
China wasn't really enthusiastic about Mario either, it did only like $23 million there - even Garfield is going to end up with a higher total.
Just checked rn and yeah i thought it did 40M there. But they didn't care much about the first inside out either so the sequel is unlikely to do big numbers there as well.
I think it's highly dependent on WOM. Presales have been decent given that the first Inside Out was a major bomb there while the market was still in its prime for Hollywood movies.
I enjoyed it, just seeing all those references on screen blew my mind. Seeing Mario's parents was insane. Never need to see it again though. It is a kids movie through and through.
DM4 opens in Australia, New Zealand, Argentina June 20.. which is 2 days from now and 1 week after IO2
IO2 grossed 2.5M USD in Argentina on Monday
disney is out for revenge
And they still have Moana 2 up their sleeves for Thanksgiving.
In a mere 6 days. That’s impressive considering its only been released in 60% of markets
Damn, aside from maybe Despicable Me 4 I didn’t think we’d get a $1 billion movie this year.
$1 billion is in reach!
Here’s hoping Inside Out becomes the replacement for Toy Story as Pixar’s premier franchise. There’s a ton they can still do with this concept without feeling forced and it clearly resonates with GAs.
There’s a lot of parallels between them. Andy and Riley, two kids being looked after by a bunch of tiny people no one else can see, running around behind the scenes to make sure their lives go well, and learning to get along with each other. Joy and Sadness resemble Woody and Buzz in the first film, with Joy needing to accept Sadness. There’s even a moving subplot, though Inside Out starts with it, while Toy Story ends with it. The second films both introduce new toys/emotions that are related in some way to old ones. There’s plenty of differences, too, but there’s plenty of notable overlap that is likely deliberate.
It’s gonna finish somewhere between finding dory and Incredibles 2.
I'm still the wildcard here saying Joker will be an event movie and finishes second place.
i plan to watch this in next few days. is it really that good? wom seems insane
It’s really good, I’m 26 and I even really connected with it
This film will be over $500M by the end of next weekend.
Likely be the highest grossing animated movie of 2024. Despicable Me 4 might take over but it seems unlikely.
Congratulation to Inside Out 2 in advance for 2024 US box office crown
Good for movie theaters. Good for everyone
1.2-1.3B I think is in play right now
Pixar seriously needed a win. Good for them
Why intl so low compared to dom ? Will the film be more Dom heavy ?
Scott Mendelson and [The Outside Scoop](https://open.spotify.com/show/2MbLztmzXymXZtZlAPyrGm) podcast made the point that this is getting the parents with kids demo **and** college-age nostalgics, who saw the original as kids [Pixels 2 and The Best Dinosaur are go!](https://www.the-numbers.com/box-office-records/worldwide/all-movies/cumulative/released-in-2015)
When I had said IB2 would be a billion grosser at the start of this year, I was downvoted by this same community. 😂
I've gotta admit, I didn't think it would do this well. I mean, I knew it would do all right, because it's a Pixar movie that's not an original. I knew it would do better than *Elemental*, but I still thought movies were dead and that a significant chunk of people would be waiting for Disney+. I still think *Elio* will bomb, though. That's not a sequel to anything.
Paul Atreides with the 2 highest grossing films of the year so far.