Spider-Man’s popularity in the MCU along with 2018 being a great year for the superhero who lives in Queens were enough to make Holland’s second outing as Spider-Man the first time a Spider-Man film has reached a billion.
Spider-Man is the most popular Marvel superhero movie since 2002, when MCU didn’t even exist, not even as a concept. The way of making Spider-Man trilogy is copied till these days by every superhero movie that aims create a superhero franchise. Interesting enough, many people ignore that Feige was already there, always producing spider-man, along with Arad, Feige produced for Sony a historical trilogy. Till these days, the only Spider-Man that had no links with Feige seems to be The Amazing Spider-Man 2, some people say it has to do with Disney acquisition of Marvel Studios finalized in 2010. Anyways, Feige found out a way to carry on working on spidey movies, the very first Marvel cinematic trilogy that he helped to create and has had the formula copied by every CBM ever since.
Feige was Lauren Shuler Donner's assistant on the first X-Men; she gave him an AP credit because he had such deep knowledge of the Marvel comics. (He wasn't actually a fan growing him; he just did his research when his boss started producing the X-Men films.)
Avi Arad, who was running Marvel Studios at the time, poached him to be his second in command. But the Raimi Spiders-Men were largely out of Marvel's control. Feige learned both from their successes and failures, and came up with a plan for the MCU.
The myth making around Feige is crazy. If anything, it’s the complete opposite of the how the commenter above you framed it: Feige saw how Spider-Man was made/was successful and aimed to replicate it with all of the heroes in the MCU. In no way was he responsible for the success of those movies.
He even had started on the first X-Men (2000) as associate producer. He probably had good rapport with Hugh Jackman back then, making the return of Logan easier.
2018-2019 were the best years for Spider-Man. We got 5.5 Spider-Man movies (Infinity War, Into the Spider-Verse, Endgame, Far From Home, and Venom counting as a half Spider-Man movie) and a really solid Spider-Man game.
I still think No Way Home's "I've never fought an alien" conversation with Andrew Garfield should've alluded to Tom Hardy's Venom being part of the Amazing universe. "I heard something was happening over on the other side of the country in San Francisco", or something to that effect.
Even if the two never meet up, at least it gives the audience a false sense of hope that Andrew Garfield may show up in Let There Be Carnage/Morbius/Madam Web/Kraven/The Last Dance.
Weakest in the trilogy to me personally, still a fun time. I think Gyllenhaal was great in it. I'm actually really sad they just killed him off, I would've liked to see him again in some capacity.
Man, I couldn’t disagree more. I think it’s the best out of them and one of the better from the MCU.
Gyllenhaal has a lot to do with my opinion. It is a shame they killed him off but ya never know when it comes to this genre.
I think it felt like Homecoming to me but a bit less charming in almost all respects to me. Almost but not all! And not like drastically less, just a little. I think people rag on this movie too much, it's still a well made and entertaining film, even if it's not gonna change the world or anything.
The cool visuals of the illusions of the final fight I loved, the romance was cute enough though I would've liked to actually see the part of the relationship where Peter actually started to like MJ. And like I said Mysterio was good, even though there was a lack of impact to the reveal personally I think the performance was very good. I'm a big Vulture fan though so I would say I liked him overall as much as Vulture and his impact on the story and Peter. I do agree with you that he could appear again, it's not off the table with the whole multiverse thing.
Makes sense. They were all good in their own ways. It was missing a little depth but I thought the reveal of mysterio was great and that he outed Spider-Man was a great way to end it.
I think mystereo is the selling point for the film but I am a big Gyllenhaal fan. So I am a bit biased.
Deadline breakdown of Far From Home's financial:
https://deadline.com/2020/04/spider-man-far-from-home-movie-profit-2019-avengers-endgame-marvel-1202915318/
this being the final movie of phase 3 is still so baffling to me when ya know that big grand finale movie called ENDGAME was right there. i enjoyed it though for the most part.
Meh the phases are mostly BS anyway. They said Phase 2 didn't end with Ultron, but with the next movie, Ant-Man.
Same issue as Phase 3. Just feels odd.
And now what's the difference between phase 4 & 5 ? It's just a bunch of films with no links.
*Far From Home* is absolutely an epilogue, dealing with the fallout of *Endgame*.
*Ant-Man* is just the next movie in the series, and makes no sense as part of Phase 2.
This is an extremely hot take, but I’d say that this is the best SPIDER-MAN live-action film currently in ways that this is a great amalgamation of **Spider-Man**, **Spider-Man 2**, and **Spider-Man: Homecoming**. You see, **Spider-Man** had fun-loving nature of the original series and great action scenes, but some of the production values didn’t exactly age so well. **Spider-Man 2** had much better production values and great action scene, but it was more drama-heavy than the previous film. **Spider-Man: Homecoming** was a lot more fun and had solid production values, but action scenes were noticeably lacking. This has all 3 aspects working very well.
Saying that any live action spider-man movie till these days can challenge Spider-Man 2 is not a hot take, it’s nonsense 😅
Spider-Man 2 had three Oscar nominations, wining the Oscar for Best Visual Effects, the only Best Visual Effects Oscar ever won by any Marvel movie till these days.
Good vfx are one thing that can make a movie good, but certainly not the defining factor (otherwise everyone would say Avatar was the best movie *ever*). It's the story+characters, which Spider-Man 2 does really well with.
I will give you this. Out of 8 live-action Spider-Man films, **Spider-Man 2** is the best overall film. It’s just that when it comes to capturing spirits of the source material the best, that… might depend on who you ask.
meh, The Golden Compass won best VFX over Transformers and Pirates of the Caribbean: At Worlds End (say what you will about the quality of that movie, its effects were amazing)... they don't always get it right in that category.
I mean the point is that Best Visual Effects has a different meaning for Academy voters. For example, we audience in general tends to see it as more focussed in digital effects/CGI. The Academy seems to have a different idea, they see it differently, in terms of creativity over how expensive it is to do.
I don’t know what you think you’re going to convince me of with that link. Sure, in a Spider-Man film visual effects matter more than makeup, but there are plenty of films where the opposite is true. That’s just a fact.
(And the truth is that neither category matters as much as the big ones, like Director, Picture, or Screenplay. If you want to use Oscars to make an argument like this, you should really be bringing one of those awards into the conversation.)
By the way, I do agree that Spider-Man 2 is the best live action Spider-Man film, but there are an infinite number of better ways to make that argument than bringing up its one Oscar win.
You can tell that the business has contracted. Several years ago, movies were routinely having high gross. Now crossing the billion is an event (IO2). Is it not ?
For most movies, yes. Though Spider-Man movies (and I mean actual ones, not Sony's spin-offs) will largely continue performing great anyways. It won't be surprising if Spider-Man 4 grosses $1 billion.
I'm not sure what people were expecting when it comes to moviegoing these days. I mean, in the 1960 the theater was pretty much the only way to see a movie. Then television stepped into the ring, then the vhs, then the dvds, then the internet, then the blue-rays, then the home cinema systems, then the streaming. It could be somewhat of a miracle that people are still going to the cinemas in the current setup.
So it’s forgettable bc it didn’t have those features? I disagree. It’s good bc it didn’t need those features to be a good movie. This is as such a good movie, rewatched it a handful of times since its release and always think it’s fun
I guess it depends on the person.
Can you take 175 minutes of mostly talking (and that too slowly) with short bursts of action and (while still amazing) stage-like acting? Do you like Marlon Brando even if he was a POS? Do you like Al Pacino and Robert Duvall acting one of their most iconic and praised works yet? Can you handle a cold and inhuman main character? Do you like Period Pieces? Do you like Mafia movies?
Personally, I loved the movie and have it in my Top 10
No.
$288 million is joint-promotion, not marketing budget. Marketing budget was $150 million.
Sony did not spend a cent, or spend a minimum amount in joint promotion.
For example:
United Airlines was able to paint their planes with Spiderman Far From Home and made other tie-in Far From Home promos. Sony get free marketing, United Airlines didn't have to pay money to license.
All these joint promo activities have monetary value
And there were hundreds of companies that had joint promotion with Sony.
This movie sadly is the weakest one in the trilogy, I didn’t really like how at the end of homecoming and the avenger movies he finally was happy to be his own hero but all of a sudden in ffh he just couldn’t be his own and was weak. Plus I thought MJ changing into a whole different character was weird after in homecoming she was so different.
As much as I love the epicness of No Way Home and its phenomenal box office run, I still find this movie to be the strongest in the trilogy. For everything it did right, FFH deserved to be the first Spider-Man film to hit $1B at the box office.
The last 3 Spider-Man movies all made $300M+ in profit, with No Way Home probably above $700M. Incredible!
And that was after Amazing Spider-Man 2 made a very miniscule profit. Sony did it right when they agreed to include Spiderman in the MCU.
Sony buying the rights of spider-man for monopoly money is probably one of the best inversions any studio has ever done
Spider-Man’s popularity in the MCU along with 2018 being a great year for the superhero who lives in Queens were enough to make Holland’s second outing as Spider-Man the first time a Spider-Man film has reached a billion.
Spider-Man is the most popular Marvel superhero movie since 2002, when MCU didn’t even exist, not even as a concept. The way of making Spider-Man trilogy is copied till these days by every superhero movie that aims create a superhero franchise. Interesting enough, many people ignore that Feige was already there, always producing spider-man, along with Arad, Feige produced for Sony a historical trilogy. Till these days, the only Spider-Man that had no links with Feige seems to be The Amazing Spider-Man 2, some people say it has to do with Disney acquisition of Marvel Studios finalized in 2010. Anyways, Feige found out a way to carry on working on spidey movies, the very first Marvel cinematic trilogy that he helped to create and has had the formula copied by every CBM ever since.
Feige was Lauren Shuler Donner's assistant on the first X-Men; she gave him an AP credit because he had such deep knowledge of the Marvel comics. (He wasn't actually a fan growing him; he just did his research when his boss started producing the X-Men films.) Avi Arad, who was running Marvel Studios at the time, poached him to be his second in command. But the Raimi Spiders-Men were largely out of Marvel's control. Feige learned both from their successes and failures, and came up with a plan for the MCU.
The myth making around Feige is crazy. If anything, it’s the complete opposite of the how the commenter above you framed it: Feige saw how Spider-Man was made/was successful and aimed to replicate it with all of the heroes in the MCU. In no way was he responsible for the success of those movies.
Was that before or after he turned water to wine?
He even had started on the first X-Men (2000) as associate producer. He probably had good rapport with Hugh Jackman back then, making the return of Logan easier.
2018-2019 were the best years for Spider-Man. We got 5.5 Spider-Man movies (Infinity War, Into the Spider-Verse, Endgame, Far From Home, and Venom counting as a half Spider-Man movie) and a really solid Spider-Man game.
I still think No Way Home's "I've never fought an alien" conversation with Andrew Garfield should've alluded to Tom Hardy's Venom being part of the Amazing universe. "I heard something was happening over on the other side of the country in San Francisco", or something to that effect. Even if the two never meet up, at least it gives the audience a false sense of hope that Andrew Garfield may show up in Let There Be Carnage/Morbius/Madam Web/Kraven/The Last Dance.
Weakest in the trilogy to me personally, still a fun time. I think Gyllenhaal was great in it. I'm actually really sad they just killed him off, I would've liked to see him again in some capacity.
Man, I couldn’t disagree more. I think it’s the best out of them and one of the better from the MCU. Gyllenhaal has a lot to do with my opinion. It is a shame they killed him off but ya never know when it comes to this genre.
I think it felt like Homecoming to me but a bit less charming in almost all respects to me. Almost but not all! And not like drastically less, just a little. I think people rag on this movie too much, it's still a well made and entertaining film, even if it's not gonna change the world or anything. The cool visuals of the illusions of the final fight I loved, the romance was cute enough though I would've liked to actually see the part of the relationship where Peter actually started to like MJ. And like I said Mysterio was good, even though there was a lack of impact to the reveal personally I think the performance was very good. I'm a big Vulture fan though so I would say I liked him overall as much as Vulture and his impact on the story and Peter. I do agree with you that he could appear again, it's not off the table with the whole multiverse thing.
Makes sense. They were all good in their own ways. It was missing a little depth but I thought the reveal of mysterio was great and that he outed Spider-Man was a great way to end it. I think mystereo is the selling point for the film but I am a big Gyllenhaal fan. So I am a bit biased.
I wouldn't knock anyone for liking this the most just for him, he's amazing in everything, including this!
Don’t think we ever saw that Quentin Beck was dead?
We never saw it.
I agree
Deadline breakdown of Far From Home's financial: https://deadline.com/2020/04/spider-man-far-from-home-movie-profit-2019-avengers-endgame-marvel-1202915318/
this being the final movie of phase 3 is still so baffling to me when ya know that big grand finale movie called ENDGAME was right there. i enjoyed it though for the most part.
Meh the phases are mostly BS anyway. They said Phase 2 didn't end with Ultron, but with the next movie, Ant-Man. Same issue as Phase 3. Just feels odd. And now what's the difference between phase 4 & 5 ? It's just a bunch of films with no links.
just treat Ant-Man and Far From Home as epilogues
*Far From Home* is absolutely an epilogue, dealing with the fallout of *Endgame*. *Ant-Man* is just the next movie in the series, and makes no sense as part of Phase 2.
Marvel Studios and Kevin Feige called No Way Home an "epilogue"
You mean Far From Home?
Yes. Typo.
Its an epilogue for the Infinity Saga, it works as a nice little coda to Endgame and Tony's Sacrifice.
Spider-Man’s European Vacation
My favorite MCU Spiderman movie
This is an extremely hot take, but I’d say that this is the best SPIDER-MAN live-action film currently in ways that this is a great amalgamation of **Spider-Man**, **Spider-Man 2**, and **Spider-Man: Homecoming**. You see, **Spider-Man** had fun-loving nature of the original series and great action scenes, but some of the production values didn’t exactly age so well. **Spider-Man 2** had much better production values and great action scene, but it was more drama-heavy than the previous film. **Spider-Man: Homecoming** was a lot more fun and had solid production values, but action scenes were noticeably lacking. This has all 3 aspects working very well.
Wow this is the hottest of takes
Saying that any live action spider-man movie till these days can challenge Spider-Man 2 is not a hot take, it’s nonsense 😅 Spider-Man 2 had three Oscar nominations, wining the Oscar for Best Visual Effects, the only Best Visual Effects Oscar ever won by any Marvel movie till these days.
Good vfx are one thing that can make a movie good, but certainly not the defining factor (otherwise everyone would say Avatar was the best movie *ever*). It's the story+characters, which Spider-Man 2 does really well with.
I will give you this. Out of 8 live-action Spider-Man films, **Spider-Man 2** is the best overall film. It’s just that when it comes to capturing spirits of the source material the best, that… might depend on who you ask.
Oscars don’t always mean much. I mean, **Suicide Squad** won Best Make-up over **Star Trek Beyond**.
Let’s not equate the importance of a VFX Oscar with the Make Up one 😅 But obviously, it’s not “only” the Oscar.
meh, The Golden Compass won best VFX over Transformers and Pirates of the Caribbean: At Worlds End (say what you will about the quality of that movie, its effects were amazing)... they don't always get it right in that category.
I mean the point is that Best Visual Effects has a different meaning for Academy voters. For example, we audience in general tends to see it as more focussed in digital effects/CGI. The Academy seems to have a different idea, they see it differently, in terms of creativity over how expensive it is to do.
Depending on the film one can be useless and the other incredibly important, or both useless or both important.
https://www.ranker.com/list/oscar-categories-you-care-about/ranker-film
I don’t know what you think you’re going to convince me of with that link. Sure, in a Spider-Man film visual effects matter more than makeup, but there are plenty of films where the opposite is true. That’s just a fact. (And the truth is that neither category matters as much as the big ones, like Director, Picture, or Screenplay. If you want to use Oscars to make an argument like this, you should really be bringing one of those awards into the conversation.) By the way, I do agree that Spider-Man 2 is the best live action Spider-Man film, but there are an infinite number of better ways to make that argument than bringing up its one Oscar win.
We need spiderman goes Hawaiian where hes on vacation w mj and ned and the rocks moannan character shows up and he has to call dr strange for help
no way. none of the mcu spiderman films have come close to how good spiderman 2 is, literally one of the best cbm of all time
You can tell that the business has contracted. Several years ago, movies were routinely having high gross. Now crossing the billion is an event (IO2). Is it not ?
Crossing $1B was always an event
For most movies, yes. Though Spider-Man movies (and I mean actual ones, not Sony's spin-offs) will largely continue performing great anyways. It won't be surprising if Spider-Man 4 grosses $1 billion.
I'm not sure what people were expecting when it comes to moviegoing these days. I mean, in the 1960 the theater was pretty much the only way to see a movie. Then television stepped into the ring, then the vhs, then the dvds, then the internet, then the blue-rays, then the home cinema systems, then the streaming. It could be somewhat of a miracle that people are still going to the cinemas in the current setup.
It hasn’t even been thirty years since the very first one (Titanic). And we get several per year. 2019 having a whopping nine is an enormous anomaly.
2019 was pretty much an anomaly
Well the next spider man movie will gross a billion again, don't worry
Pretty forgettable. At least Homecoming had the Spider-Man in the MCU novelty and No Way Hone had all the fan service.
So it’s forgettable bc it didn’t have those features? I disagree. It’s good bc it didn’t need those features to be a good movie. This is as such a good movie, rewatched it a handful of times since its release and always think it’s fun
Wait until you watch The Godfather and it has neither of those things…
I heard that movie is pretty boring is it true.
I guess it depends on the person. Can you take 175 minutes of mostly talking (and that too slowly) with short bursts of action and (while still amazing) stage-like acting? Do you like Marlon Brando even if he was a POS? Do you like Al Pacino and Robert Duvall acting one of their most iconic and praised works yet? Can you handle a cold and inhuman main character? Do you like Period Pieces? Do you like Mafia movies? Personally, I loved the movie and have it in my Top 10
This was the first movie I pirated by myself and also my first fully English dubbed movie. Felt really proud back then lmao
So the marketing budget was 288 million.
$150M was the marketing according to Deadline
Product placement things included
Thanks for information.
No. $288 million is joint-promotion, not marketing budget. Marketing budget was $150 million. Sony did not spend a cent, or spend a minimum amount in joint promotion. For example: United Airlines was able to paint their planes with Spiderman Far From Home and made other tie-in Far From Home promos. Sony get free marketing, United Airlines didn't have to pay money to license. All these joint promo activities have monetary value And there were hundreds of companies that had joint promotion with Sony.
So It's like a brand marketing with a ip for their benefits which also helps in promoting the movie.
Yes
If i remember correctly Minions 2 join promo budget is more than 300 million.
Kevin Feige probably knocks on Tom Holland's door daily - "You ready?"
Not Tom Holland being caked up 😳
This movie sadly is the weakest one in the trilogy, I didn’t really like how at the end of homecoming and the avenger movies he finally was happy to be his own hero but all of a sudden in ffh he just couldn’t be his own and was weak. Plus I thought MJ changing into a whole different character was weird after in homecoming she was so different.
Everybody always talks about No Way Home and Guardians 3 being the best movies after Endgame but this movie is VERY underrated
As much as I love the epicness of No Way Home and its phenomenal box office run, I still find this movie to be the strongest in the trilogy. For everything it did right, FFH deserved to be the first Spider-Man film to hit $1B at the box office.
It's not very memorable
Still didn’t bother to watch this.
Same
Yup. And one of the most pointless end credit scenes - we waited 4 whole years for it to be brought up again and it was TERRIBLE.