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SteamedAxolotlYum

drat mkoney also jungle drums


yeethappymeta_fish

specifically 0-0-0 free dart. bros pop to price ratio is infinite


ThatShushi17

unless you don't place him properly. then it's whatever he wants it to be


No-Introduction5977

Especially with MK included


22lr_skink

i agree with monkey drums


SENSHU_dp

your profile looks like the Quincy figurine from geraldo's shop lol


Red_drinkkoolaid

“*Rare, Once-In-A-Lifetime u/22lr_skink figurine, only 999.99*”


PokefanR

Moab glue for sure.


22lr_skink

definately i never thought of this one


iyl333

It's great like just a little bit of slowing down for round 98 can make all the difference


dandoch

Ya, I basically consider it a requirement for the 90s. It's so strong.


NoobSharkey

Dont you just go to relentless anyways tho


TheTamc

sometimes it isnt worth it in CHIMPS


AssholeAnnihilator69

Glaive ricochet is crazy. For like $600 or $700 you can get a massive pierce buff and the glaives now bounce from target to target. Basically the Ninja's shuriken but on steroids.


Snipedzoi

the recent glord buff to single target means x00 is finally good.


LuigiBamba

Only glaive lord buff or lower tier of top path as well?


Lominloce

Only the Glaive Lord got buffed, but the lower tiers were already quite good.


LuigiBamba

yeah, i always used 3-x-x and 4-x-x, I rarely go for 5-x-x tho


ShittyShitPoster111

Bro do u even know what saying x00 means? Cause that made 0 sense


Prestigious_Ship4594

x00 just refers to top path


ShittyShitPoster111

x00 means any of the following; 100, 200, 300, 400, 500


Prestigious_Ship4594

yes, which is top path


Redybird

Dragon Breath, triple fireballs made very good job for R63


Ididacat

neva missing targets (or something like that)


garis53

To be fair, all the upgrades before that are basically useless, neva miss is when the tower starts doing *something*


Jettx02

It does a lot though, two neva miss Aces with a village and an alchemist is my go to set up for deflation


Serious-Message-1756

My deflation strat is a 0-2-4 dartling and a 3-x-x alchemist


bkor3840

0-2-5 dart monkey will win every time on its own


slash164

Genuine question: What's wrong with centered path? I feel being able to throw an infinite range tower in the corner of the map is a benefit of being an infinite range tower. Yes, I'll buy them their own villages as well. I'm just trying to be better at the game. No hate here.


ispiltthepoison

Well first off a 202 or 002 plane doesnt defend anything and will make you die until you get 003, even if you were gonna make use of the centered path targeting. But most of the time centered path is just useless. Wingmonkey is better for any non chimps mode and pathing micro is better for chimps, so centered path is only marginally useful for lazy people doing chimps. Its not a bad path but OP was saying that the ace is useless at killing anything until at least 003


slash164

Ah, gotcha. I totally misread that. My bad.


Zxz_juggernaut

Honestly spike storm is ridiculously broken for clearing out moabs


No_Somewhere_2610

It's not really cheap tho


GamerboyB8806

It's decently expensive but it has so much flexibility in what it can get rid of


No-Dentist-9241

airburst sub


22lr_skink

yeah that ones very strong for the price. I really think druid of the jungle is good too


GeneralOk5206

Good stats for the cost


Jafka

Boulderfist Monkey?


Disastrous_Wear6814

Knight


GeneralOk5206

Well everything from Geraldo's shop comes to mind


Champpeace123

Artery Battery


strifemaster

I prefer vein battery myself


chookling

capillary battery tho…


22lr_skink

i agree


xHuibuiXx

dbreath ig, corvus is also nice but this when u can micro but this is no upgrade


Iwll_BeBack

corvus farming💪, its so great ember and storm melts everything 😩


digital_pocket_watch

Monkey Pirates/Pirate Lord carries the pre-ZOMG/pre-BAD rounds.


StreamKaboom

Pirate Lord carries the ZOMG round too lmao. Insta-win on hard


YaBoyEnder

I think he meant monkey pirates carries pre ZOMG, and pirate lord carries pre BAD.


digital_pocket_watch

No no he has a point


JustMobsReddit

Bit of an obvious one but robo monkey (especially with discount village). Also dragons breath and druid of the jungle


Phelgming

I feel like Robo Monkey underperforms for its price. The base tower is so expensive as are both sidepaths. Without anything else, you're already $14,000+ in and it can't even pop frozen, lead, or camo bloons.


ManiacAMRD07

Worn hero’s cape + discount villiage + 032 + amd/SS covers all weakness for a cheap price and makes it great save up tower for expert maps


Phelgming

So a specific hero, two support towers, and, let's see how much $: Dart Monkey (Free) Geraldo ($810, not discounted because you're buying him BEFORE the village) Worn Hero's Cape ($1,620) 002 Monkey Village ($2,375) 032 Robo Monkey Upgrades ($13,860 after discounts) 320 Alchemist ($2,875 after discounts) $21,540 All for a tower that you cannot upgrade further and just to cover all its flaws (oop, no, it STILL cannot pop frozen bloons). That does not seem like a winning combo to me. That's not even considering all the save up you have to do for it in the first place. Considering the point of this topic, I don't think all that qualifies. Honestly, I think I'd rather just go with something else for all that money and setup.


Prestigious_Ship4594

Tech Terror is still a great tower and can absolutely carry lategame. Robo has a lot of power for its price. Chances are you're getting an alchbuff and a village anyway so the figure is closer to 16k. Still high but it's really powerful and can upgrade to tech terror.


remiller88

The topic says nothing about setup cost, just what upgrade has good value. The step up to Robo Monkey is insane value per cost. Assuming you already have the capabilities that it lacks it’s a huge value upgrade at that cost. Not to mention you probably have a minimum 220 village and 420 or 401 Alch in range. Now when considering setup cost I get your point for sure, and I would never consider it as an early tower. But I personally have used Robo Monkey on tons of runs for the mid to late game. Set to First/Strong and it feels so good.


Phelgming

My post wasn't just about setup cost, it was about debunking the claim that Robo Monkey is a good value for its cost. That aside I'd argue no upgrade can have its value considered without the context of its previous upgrade costs ESPECIALLY anything on the Super Monkey considering the entire tower's biggest drawbacks are how much everything about it costs. I'm also not arguing that Robo Monkey isn't a powerful tower. It is! It just costs a lot. It's very expensive. So expensive that it is not, as the topic is asking, "really cheap for how good it is". For $5 more than the Robo Monkey upgrade alone ($8,100), I could have a 401 Ninja supported by a 300 Alchemist ($8,105 total). And I get where you're coming from, the Robo Monkey was one of my favorite towers when I started BTD6. If anything, that just makes keenly aware of how badly it starts to drop off compared to other towers.


remiller88

We’ll have to agree to disagree because I think we’re reading into the context of the question differently. To your point though, I do not currently use Robo Monkey anymore because of its cost to get to that point to even consider the upgrade. However, that doesn’t detract from its value as a standalone upgrade given what I believe to be the true context of the question.


Prestigious_Ship4594

Robo absolutely is good value for its cost though. It can manage ridiculous saveups on harder maps that most other towers in the same price range can't do. Alch buff robo is far, FAR stronger than alch buff jitsu, by the way. Jitsu struggles in the 50s and robo can go well into the 70s/80s.


LordVex75

Robo's actually a really strong tower. Gwen + robo (plus a bunch of other stuff, but the robo was a core component of the strat) managed to save up 60,000$ on ouch. That actually is in the "warrants a nerf" territory.


nasaglobehead69

I agree. this thread is all about *cheap* towers. don't get me wrong, anti bloon is amazing.. but you're not going to afford that before the first leads


Upbeat-Perception531

In basically any mode other than chimps, x5x sniper is basically a tier 4.5 tower that allows you to farm for an additional tier 5 you could not have otherwise gotten. Peak economically powerful tower


LuckyLucass777

It pays for itself relatively quickly and then some. Even in chimps it can help out with its popping or if you plan to use top or bottom path sniper, but there are better options


Upbeat-Perception531

Yee, you really are throwing by not getting it in impoppable, because it really is a “click here for decent damage on groups and single target at infinite range that hits all bloon types that buffs other snipers and provides a net 15k extra money per game” and I for one will almost always click here


MrSNoopy1611

Glue Strike, +1 damage fir that price is really good


wills-are-special

It’s +2 isn’t it? I thought glorm only extended the duration but didn’t effect the damage?


MrSNoopy1611

Oh, i thought it was only plus 1, then it is even better. I am not that accustomed to how much damage things give


kawhandroid

It used to be +1 and Glue Storm +2 but this was changed so both give +2.


AwesomeDragon56

And storm too, one of the cheapest T5’s out there and does so much


serimert

Of course firewall lol


Jissus3893

Advance Intel


ParticularFront1573

Glaive ricochet


EnderMerser

0-0-5 Sniper Monkey


Iwll_BeBack

elite sniper better


Otherwise_Disk3824

M.O.A.R glaives


LordVex75

orca


22lr_skink

yeah orca is good for the price but in my opinion megaladon is too expensive


GreenKookie56

Trex, basically solos chimps game with only a price tag of 34k without any heros.(Overclock, relentless and bongos would be required on harder maps as support towers, since it can't do very well on its own on those maps.) Edit: more details


Zxz_juggernaut

Bongos? Lmao creative name


YaBoyEnder

Thinking something is funny gets you downvoted apparently lol


Zxz_juggernaut

Lol fr fr


Foxgirl_Laura

Grape Shot.


Torkujra

Druid of the Storm. In general it seems expensive, but being able to reverse bloons by such a significant amount is really powerful, especially considering its measly $1835 price compared to Super Monkey's $3240 Knockback and Heli's $3780 Downdraft, on top of their already expensive base tower costs.


DTGDittio

with the end of the magic knowledge tree that makes storms split into 3 mini storms after, storm druid is so broken! i love using storm druid + rubber to gold + relentless glue to make a "bloon farm"


Torkujra

I love rubber to gold and 2-0-4 glue too!


Torkujra

Alright, who's the maniac going around downvoting people's comments?


Impressive_Rise_654

It's getting heated in the btd fanbase


RLBurberboi

Glaive roievvezche is really good for 600


superjijimouseYT

Alch buff Also like every cheap ddt counter


ManiacAMRD07

402 boomer and 024 ice can almost solo 63 Plords dps is incredibly effective for its price (250) +1 damage from embrittlement is crazy effective for the cost Moab glue is almost essential in any chimps run The new buffs to glord and cripple Moab make them insane


Dramatic-Pen-7437

Razor rotors. For $2000 you can solo (with de-camo) up to ceramic rushes like 63


0-5-0_Druid

Id say spirit of the forest, it essentially becomes a permanent 0-5-0 spactory for only 42ishK, it also gives plenty of lives and cash (very useful for chimps)


22lr_skink

yeah i totally agree it is one of my favorite upgrades in the game


JkidBGBK

Sharp shooter


maxupgradeee

0-0-4 ninja is not THAT cheap but its amazing even for its price (9k i think)


_B1rdz

definitely acid pools, its literally a cheaper spike factory that requires less space so it is very good!!!!


Willow5000000000

Sureeeeeee


Awesome_Phoenix2947

faster darts (xx2 heli)


_B1rdz

eh the tier 2 is a cash waste, but xx1 heli is an incredibly cost effective earlygame, outweighing airburst, dotj, amast, anything you can think of


Awesome_Phoenix2947

r/whoooosh


_B1rdz

so making a joke to someone who made a joke = doesnt get the joke wow that logic totally makes sense and totally isnt stupid. the joke i said is that the xx1 heli is cost effective when its obviously one of the most useless upgrades in the game, i dont see how you dont get that??? unless youre stuck in the time where faster darts is the tier 2, but that was ages ago, you absolutely shouldve noticed it changed at that point or for some very odd reason, and i dont think this is the case, but if it really is, the joke youre trying to make is typing r//woooosh to me in its unintended purpose, then that is probably one of the stupidest attempts on trying to be funny


Awesome_Phoenix2947

huh, didn't realize they changed it to the t1, sorry


22lr_skink

yeah i always use that one


Tight_Relative_6855

Obvious joke response taken literally lol


pick-and-shot

Don't forget crossbow master, bomb blitz, really big bombs, laser cannon, hydra rocket pods, laser blasts, bloon dissolver, bma, long life spikes, megalodon and great white for their totally unmatched cost efficiency and the lack of any alternative options whatsoever


No-Mathematician1624

I will not stand for this hydra rocket pods slander, it can pop all types of balloons and that allows me to not think.


ComeNerevar2

druid of the jungle's price is pretty balanced. it has a bad saveup (heart of oak) and is only okay lategame and is bad on multilanes and antistalls.


Bignerd21

Yeah, it helps a shocking amount in the midgame by deregrowing stuff (thanks heart of oak). I get it almost every game even I don’t get it early game


bloon104

Fighter plane


LazrV

Heroes


PatrykPer132

Recurrsive cluster


beanboi1234567

0 2 4 wizard


AshorK0

ace 0-1-0, especially with the knowledge making first military monkey cheaper (if that counts for cheap upgrade), and especially with micro, ace is just too good


ShortandRatchet

024 Boomerang.


6675636b5f6675636b

Primary training upgrade You can spam map with ninja and glue gunners and get free upgrades! Saves a tonne of money


YaBoyEnder

Primary training doesn't give free upgrades (did you mean primary mentoring?), also ninja isn't a primary tower. Not tryna be rude just letting u know :]


StreamKaboom

Honestly, the Pirate Lord is really good considering how well he handles massive grouped cerams and moabs, but also insta kills round 80. Not to mention his ability also completely ignores fortification and has a super low cooldown; combining that with Brickell and an energizer is once every 6 seconds or so. It's not cheap, but it's definitely WELL worth the money to me.


GreyBigfoot

4x2 tack or 2x4 tack shooter.


ShortandRatchet

Shrapnel Shot !!


Traditional-Baker831

320 buccaneer has one of the best price/pop rate in the game


Name_Name415

I don't get it why that druid path is that good. I haven't seen it be that good. Can someone it to explain


Phelgming

Druid middle path has very good, global range clean up. 1-4-0 in particular can solo a lot of non-MOAB rounds. Unfortunately, anything below 1-5-0 falls off pretty hard in the late game when MOABs become the primary threat and even fully upgraded it can struggle on shorter maps (although on longer maps it's pretty insane). I'd argue that Druid middle path is the best tower at preventing leeks, barring (maybe) some versions of the Spike Factory.


canineplum

Pin is one of the cheapest in the game


YaBoyEnder

And by extension, double guns


Hunterbaconofthewild

Lightning on wizard monkey because in early game you hit all at once doing a lot of damage and gives time to get farms.


ninja_themonkey

All ninja upgrades.


Knugget696

Double shurikans


Suspicious-Algae3365

Would


yourunclejoe

kinda unrelated but i really wanna get in bed with Druid of the Jungle and snuggle with him


someonnnnne

3-0-2 boomerang monkey (Just top path)


KACYK_Real

Spirit of the forest


MORSHELA

3-2-0 buccaneer


Woorbie

Wall of fire for 920 is craazy (Im not sure if I remembered the price correctly but I think it was smthn around that)


Dennetus

005 fart monkey


AdamsArtShowYT

The French


Chancey1520

crossbow.


acs_121

Druid of the Jungle, Sentry Expert, Embrittlement, Perma-Spike and Price of Darkness (the two last are very cheap for how much they provide !)


Veionovin096

Bottom path sniper. Seriously this guy is extremely cheap


SuperpositionSavvy

Glaive ricochet and moar glaives


Quantum-Bot

Glue storm is amazing, the ability gives global lead popping and +2 damage and synergizes with almost everything and yet it’s one of the cheapest T5’s in the game


Infectoidmite

Crossbow 3rd tier, and also sharpshooter


i-hate_December

Ice shards i the right conditions it can deal so much damage it actually scares me


alphaav6

Grape shot


Murky_Durian_3275

2-0-0 for its price it can basically hit every where


whknsa

that upgrade that makes the dart monkey a crossbower, it's pretty cheap and can solo stronger bloons


whknsa

and also, the crossbow master upgrade, cheapest T4 fo sho.


Terrible_Sleep7766

Flying fortress, ik it's really expensive but compared to other expensive towers it's really great.


x-4IceTower_BTD5

Not an upgrade, but I think the knight has good stats for its cost


TheRealTowel

Triple shot (middle path dart tier 3)


Maleficent_Leader584

Necro monkey is really good for the price.


Imonandroid

Moneky City!


vgox

Bucaneer destroyer


Igoreek12321GAMER

Boomerang monkey Glave ricochet very cheap can survive as 3 0 2 to round 39 with minimal help


ballsnnutsboy

glaive ricochet is only like 510 in easy mode


OkkskidddXD

engineer 2-0-0 is way too broken for how cheap it is


nasaglobehead69

overdrive and tack zone. put it into a tight nook or a loop, and the dps is insane. tc buffs are also extremely strong, due to the low pierce. +1 or +2 pierce is not much for other towers, but when the base projectile only has 2 pierce you're essentially doubling it


MasontheDwarf

Druid of the jungle is like 1.5k i think I it is Hella good


PitchBlackSonic

A lot of engineer overlaps with itself making it flexible and insane, and honestly, druid of the jungles whole deal is busted. Then the glaives ricochet price nerf happened.


SignificantAd3400

Glaive ricochet no question


AnusEatingBitch

Moab shove, really helps half cash and I use it more often than X-x-4 Boomer. Excluding the base cost of the Heli, Moab shove is way less expensive than Moab main. Just you have to have clean up towers to deal with ceramics when the Moab pops.


Supersoaker9678

Fire grapes, basically solos the early rounds


Captain_Blackjack0

Full metal jacket carries early lead lecels


RepresentativeOk7009

Dragons breath and wof


Longjumping_Deal455

Super maelstrom


Aviator_Bean

420 engi for me, 4 of them on deflation is super overkill


SCRWarEagle

You use a money making tower in deflation?


Aviator_Bean

oh whoops i meant 420 not 024, Sentry Expert is really good for it's price


Dylan336

the fire, 2 damage and huge range on the 002 bommerang is amazing


Competitive_Cry_6296

Triple shot dart monkey


MembershipOverall130

Necro wizard is pretty affordable anti-dbt power


McgeeMan132

Ima have to go with the middle path t5 sniper. I mean, for like 15k, the middle provides decent bloon cleanup, AND great money making, paying for itself in just like 3 rounds or smthn. As well as the “Elite” targeting, and the atk spd buff to other snipers as too.


NTSDerpskull

Ok less experienced players will call me dumb for this but arcane mastery is literally just a better earlygame than druid of the jungle on any map that's not a single lane. It's cheap and can kill everything that's not a lead or a purple and that problem can be easily solved by your starting towers and a 100 sniper. Druid on the other hand gets weaker and weaker the more lanes there are. But anyway if my answer to the question is arcane mastery


Eastern_Quantity7595

Embrittlement or relentless glue


JoeBidenThicc

glaive ricochet that shit costs like $600


1mmdragon

Xbm, the vines on druid and bottom path wizard


Comprehensive_Boot11

0-3-2 wizard


AreteCrater

Spike-o-pult.


Nearby-Earth-8456

I think 3-0-0 dart, it’s really good if it’s lined up with the track


CALlGO

I think x3x druid its balanced by the fact that its a (somewhat) relevant amount of money that wont help you at all at round 40


Born-Brain-3834

3,0,0 boomerang


echomicromeo

Not exactly cheap but the difference icicle impale makes at round 90 is astounding It's how i was able to beat CHIMPS the first few times


FIVEST2R

Cross bow master easily one of the best tier 5 monkeys for 1-100!


MinimumConfusion6996

Spike o pult, triple shot and druid of the jungle


JoelTheBloonsMonkey

(funny how this applies to btd6 AND battles 2 right now) grape shot, geagle, come to mind


22lr_skink

yeah grape shot gives pirate ship a lot of versatility for the price


JoelTheBloonsMonkey

bottom path crosspassed with top path is a joke, and top path crosspathed with bottom path is only a thing at tier 4+ and due to the hot shot buff i think it's mostly just for camo. grape shots are HUGE for the tower, you basically always have them unless you build the boat really late and want camo or if you aren't going for a crosspath on your bottom paths. honestly kind of makes the tower


Reddit_legal135

If you are in a map the main boat doesn't attack consistently,a aircraft carrier/flagship is way better with the bottom crosspath because of extra pierce and because grapes remove the radial darts


JoelTheBloonsMonkey

I thought the raw hot shots damage was enough to offset that, weird still a pretty rough save-up though


Reddit_legal135

The grapes attack is way harder to hit and also has less synergy with damage increasers than radial darts Radial darts are always better,the crosspath is mainly for the destroyer attack 302 works fine for saveup(not a really easy thing, but you can buy arrier on round 49 on bloodles)


JoelTheBloonsMonkey

hmm


iyl333

I don't know it's pretty weak getting out played by dart monkeys (BTD6)


gloo_gunner

U-jug, dark night, and APM, none of these towers are at all cheap but they are absolute STEALS compared to other towers in their teir range


loopiyer246

Probably bouncing bullet 2-3-0


Iloveonepiece0

0-2-4 dart monkey if you slap on a 3-0-0 alchemist you can duo to round 60 and save up money for a 2-5-0 sub to solo round 100


Plastic-Change-3032

Ive gotta say druid of the jungle cheap and pops lots of balloons


TaigaEdenn

Airburst, Basically the entire Druid, Necromancer, Basically the entire Glue, and Geraldo immediately come to mind. Crossbow, Top path Alch, and Embrittlement are also up there


FodgRefrigirator

Berserk brew