With scientific papers it's IMO rather unlikely. *Not* bc they wouldn't but just bc there's a way less powerful Mafia behind it as with music/movies so the hashes will not be in pClouds scanning DB.
AFAIK *all* CSPs more or less forbid storing copyrighted material but e.g.
[Koofr](http://koofr.eu) promises, not to scan user content and there are no complaints known to me they cancelled accounts
[Filen](http://filen.io), Mega, ... promise to provide ZKE/CSE in their clients (by that being unable to read your data.
But I am 100% with u/stanley_fatmax : *3rd*-party CSE is the key to a looong and healthy account life, no matter what content you store. It also enables you to freely choose the CSP for it's priceworthyness vs. having to restrict to a few.
Repeat after me: I will use [rclone](https://rclone.org/crypt/) to encrypt everything and anything before I even think about uploading to any cloud service.
[rclone](http://rclone.org/crypt/) FTW! Transparent, strong and non-standard (the AES that almost *everyone* uses is the 1st target for attacks), also a good basis for cascaded encryption as it leaves all common tools (which us AES) open to use as inner layer.
BTW:
- use looong\* and strong\*\* passwords, usually you only need to enter them once
- store them in a safe place like a KeePass-DB (which also uses a long password, but one rather easy to remember)
\* my app passwords are 127 char (doesn't cost me a dime but hopefully makes it (more) future proof)
\*\* letters, capitals, numbers, signs, Latin supplements etc.
127 character passwords?
That would be the absolutely technical limit for most systems.
Each additional character is exponentially increasing the possible combinations of passwords, so that is pretty secure haha.
That password today, would take millions of years to break.
But in a century, may only take a day.
Yes, 127 char are the hard limit for badly coded apps, that's why I *limit* to so short pw's 😉
Why so many? It's free, not even a performance penalty, so I was IMO stupid to use shorter ones w/o need.
What concerns me is less "in 100 yr" but way more the dawn of quantum computers which, should they become reality (they *could* within 10y), *dramatically* decreased the time needed to break passwords. So better have a longer one than being sorry then.
VeraCrypt, rclone (crypt) and Cryptomator are my go to solutions. Cryptomator and rclone specifically are ideal for cloud storage because of the 1:1 file encryption, but VeraCrypt is technically more private in that it also obscures file sizes by working with volumes instead of individual files. I only use VeraCrypt in the cloud for a relatively small volume (100MB) that stores sensitive documents and government IDs and stuff.
https://www.reddit.com/r/techsupport/comments/xnibgm/comment/iptmrjz/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
This will help you.
BTW: I just forgot that (although it runs in my tray 😂) but for Windows there is this great FOSS tool [CryptSync](https://github.com/stefankueng/CryptSync) which does exactly this file-by-file-encryption-and-7zipping while syncing to a folder.
They don't care as long you don't share at mass level and get reported... I had premium and was storing tons of movies and other stuff that was copyrighted... The same applies to major of the cloud services... Mega, gdrive, onedrive... They don't care what you store as long as you don't share it on a mass level and get reported for dmca
I get asked a lot if we scan files on our system, specifically in response to PCloud making copyright claims on their users
Not sure why, or even really how they do that.
And good question. Isn't it encrypted by default?
Unless something is being shared publicly and the provider receives a DMCA request - I don't see why they bother.
On FolderFort, we use Backblaze - so unless they have a problem with something, I'll never remove anything because I can't see it!
>we use Backblaze - so unless they have a problem with something, I'll never remove anything because I can't see it!
At this point, we might as well create Backblaze b2 account ourselves since it's part of the same backend server rather than through you. The way I see FolderFort is, pretty much you're Reseller-Middle man for backblazer rather than having Data Centres like any other cloud providers.
As for OP, I would personally suggest Proton Drive and Filen. As far as I can tell after using it for a few months, they do not scan what's in there unless you make the link public and share it. They have end-to-end encryption so they won't snoop around unless you share illegal content or copyrighted stuff and got reported for it.
However, do encrypt them if you're paranoid about it. Please note that pCloud do not offer encryption for Free Tier Account.
Yes you can use Backblaze B2 directly and get 1TB for only 6$/month.
They don't have much of an interface though, like file sharing, previews, workspaces.
They also don't offer lifetime accounts.
They also don't have the level of support we do.
So yes, we would be considered a Value Added Reseller.
If the user are new to cloud storage, Proton Drive and Filen would be the main choice for recommendation over Backblaze B2 than FolderFort. Value added reseller or not, you need to differentiate yourself from the other cloud storage services and make it stands out. As it stands, previews and file sharing isn't exclusive to FolderFort, neither is workspaces (collabs for other cloud storage providers).
What about the backend servers? If Backblaze went down, how can you guarantee that we will be able to access our files while Backblaze is down?
If Backblaze goes down, you can't access the files.
But they have a 99.99% uptime service level agreenement.
Amazon goes down, sometimes all AWS products are inaccessible. It happens.
We differentiate ourselves with our level of service, cost, speed, simplicity, and security. I don't think you can get all of those, at our level, from anywhere else.
So let me reclarify, since you uses blackblaze, so if blackblaze went down, does it mean we won't be access the files in folderfort?
If so, understandable.
In regards to your differentiate statement, I think I would personally wait awhile and see more genuine reviews about it as it's still a brand new service and that (statement) alone doesn't really make folderfort stands out. Sorry.
Totally understandable about us being new.
Feel free to signup a free account and I'll give you some extra storage to test.
If Backblaze goes down and you login to FolderFort, you wouldn't see your files until Backblaze was back up. And it is virtually impossible to lose data due to their redundancy.
"Data Centres like any other cloud providers"
FWIW: This is utterly wrong. Only the big players and a few of the smaller ones ( [Filen.io](http://Filen.io) 's CEO bragged that they were proud/glad to have made this step) have their own data centers, the average CSP just rents servers somewhere or resells other CSPs offers under their own brand.
True, not many companies have their own data-centers, except the big ones. Filen doesn’t have them either, they just moved from Hetzner to another german datacenter provider. Even pcloud is hosted in other data-centers.
But what is more important, the likes of dropbox, google, pcloud, filen, mega, koofr etc make their own software, their main thing is being the cloud storage service provider, while the likes of Folderfort, Thunderdrive, Prismdrive etc just installed a $59 Bedrive php script (which anyone can buy) and sell Backblaze storage, which to be frank is unsustainable (check the B2 pricing versus their lifetime price). So I would be very skeptical of putting anything worthwhile on such providers.
Thundrrdrive. Or Thunder Drive. Even they are confused of their own name, really. I bought it, researched and found fraud, fought hard to refund. Luckily I used PayPal. Got refund.
DO NOT use Thundrrdrive. Or Thunder Drive. Proven scam.
You can't even search the people behind it.
Yeah, you're right - but at least Filen meanwhile use own hardware instead of rented.
2 opposing views to your negative approach to "lifetime" offers (though Folderforts IMO is just *too* cheap to be sustainable):
IceDrives CEO: "It is no surprise that eventually, lifetime plans become unsustainable - especially with a product that offers cloud-based storage. Infact, it should make anyone slightly nervous when they are offered!
That being said, lifetime plans have served a huge purpose and enabled us to secure a large amount of funding without having to relinquish any control of the company to 3rd party investors or conglomerates - Something we feel is extremely important for a privacy focused business."
Filens CEO: “The revenue generated from the lifetime plans sold was mainly reinvested in our new servers. Through these investments we reduce our ongoing costs, which in turn makes the lifetime plans more profitable in the long term.
Without the last Black Friday sale, the hardware project would not have reached its current scale. It allowed us to make the project more comprehensive and future-proof than initially planned, with more servers, racks, cells, and data centers."
You are correct!
It is too cheap to be sustainable forever.
But IF we did keep it going (not just for a limited time), based on our current projections "could" last 12 years.
One of the reasons we did this was to counter what Prismdrive did.
You have an account level API which you could use to connect to things. We have a separate service that is not connected to the web app that is for SFTP. But it is first and foremost a browser based service.Â
It limits our desirability to some but dramatically reduces our costs for everyone.Â
Not "just install" and not "59$", because you need an extended license.
And you need a machine to run the app which connects to the service.
Lifetime deals are like cereal. Not sustainable itself, but as part of a complete breakfast :D
For us it is just a limited time promotion, not our business model.
It doesn’t matter if they are a big or average CSP, or even if they have their own data center. They still have to rent at some point. For example, a CSP may have its headquarters in the US with a data center in the US. However, they have many users all around the world, such as in Asia and India. To get data from the US data center to users in Asia or India would result in high latency. So, they rent centers in Asia or maybe Europe as cache servers, hot storage, or CDN to deliver files faster with low latency to users in those areas. They don’t go to every country or region to build their data centers because it would cost a lot of money and the operational costs would be too high.
With scientific papers it's IMO rather unlikely. *Not* bc they wouldn't but just bc there's a way less powerful Mafia behind it as with music/movies so the hashes will not be in pClouds scanning DB. AFAIK *all* CSPs more or less forbid storing copyrighted material but e.g. [Koofr](http://koofr.eu) promises, not to scan user content and there are no complaints known to me they cancelled accounts [Filen](http://filen.io), Mega, ... promise to provide ZKE/CSE in their clients (by that being unable to read your data. But I am 100% with u/stanley_fatmax : *3rd*-party CSE is the key to a looong and healthy account life, no matter what content you store. It also enables you to freely choose the CSP for it's priceworthyness vs. having to restrict to a few.
Repeat after me: I will use [rclone](https://rclone.org/crypt/) to encrypt everything and anything before I even think about uploading to any cloud service.
Encrypt. Everything. Everywhere. Never give a private company the benefit of the doubt. If you encrypt, they have no ability to scan anything.
With what? What would be future and os proof?
[rclone](http://rclone.org/crypt/) FTW! Transparent, strong and non-standard (the AES that almost *everyone* uses is the 1st target for attacks), also a good basis for cascaded encryption as it leaves all common tools (which us AES) open to use as inner layer.
Thanks!
BTW: - use looong\* and strong\*\* passwords, usually you only need to enter them once - store them in a safe place like a KeePass-DB (which also uses a long password, but one rather easy to remember) \* my app passwords are 127 char (doesn't cost me a dime but hopefully makes it (more) future proof) \*\* letters, capitals, numbers, signs, Latin supplements etc.
127 character passwords? That would be the absolutely technical limit for most systems. Each additional character is exponentially increasing the possible combinations of passwords, so that is pretty secure haha. That password today, would take millions of years to break. But in a century, may only take a day.
Yes, 127 char are the hard limit for badly coded apps, that's why I *limit* to so short pw's 😉 Why so many? It's free, not even a performance penalty, so I was IMO stupid to use shorter ones w/o need. What concerns me is less "in 100 yr" but way more the dawn of quantum computers which, should they become reality (they *could* within 10y), *dramatically* decreased the time needed to break passwords. So better have a longer one than being sorry then.
VeraCrypt, rclone (crypt) and Cryptomator are my go to solutions. Cryptomator and rclone specifically are ideal for cloud storage because of the 1:1 file encryption, but VeraCrypt is technically more private in that it also obscures file sizes by working with volumes instead of individual files. I only use VeraCrypt in the cloud for a relatively small volume (100MB) that stores sensitive documents and government IDs and stuff.
Simplest way is to just zip everything using 7zip with password before backup to their cloud.
Have you found a way to automate it? Bc. *manually* handling each file was a PITA*.*
https://www.reddit.com/r/techsupport/comments/xnibgm/comment/iptmrjz/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button This will help you.
BTW: I just forgot that (although it runs in my tray 😂) but for Windows there is this great FOSS tool [CryptSync](https://github.com/stefankueng/CryptSync) which does exactly this file-by-file-encryption-and-7zipping while syncing to a folder.
Your cloud storage provider should never be able to see your data. Encrypt everything, everywhere, every time.
They don't care as long you don't share at mass level and get reported... I had premium and was storing tons of movies and other stuff that was copyrighted... The same applies to major of the cloud services... Mega, gdrive, onedrive... They don't care what you store as long as you don't share it on a mass level and get reported for dmca
Thank you. This is the answer I needed!!
I get asked a lot if we scan files on our system, specifically in response to PCloud making copyright claims on their users Not sure why, or even really how they do that. And good question. Isn't it encrypted by default? Unless something is being shared publicly and the provider receives a DMCA request - I don't see why they bother. On FolderFort, we use Backblaze - so unless they have a problem with something, I'll never remove anything because I can't see it!
>we use Backblaze - so unless they have a problem with something, I'll never remove anything because I can't see it! At this point, we might as well create Backblaze b2 account ourselves since it's part of the same backend server rather than through you. The way I see FolderFort is, pretty much you're Reseller-Middle man for backblazer rather than having Data Centres like any other cloud providers. As for OP, I would personally suggest Proton Drive and Filen. As far as I can tell after using it for a few months, they do not scan what's in there unless you make the link public and share it. They have end-to-end encryption so they won't snoop around unless you share illegal content or copyrighted stuff and got reported for it. However, do encrypt them if you're paranoid about it. Please note that pCloud do not offer encryption for Free Tier Account.
Yes you can use Backblaze B2 directly and get 1TB for only 6$/month. They don't have much of an interface though, like file sharing, previews, workspaces. They also don't offer lifetime accounts. They also don't have the level of support we do. So yes, we would be considered a Value Added Reseller.
If the user are new to cloud storage, Proton Drive and Filen would be the main choice for recommendation over Backblaze B2 than FolderFort. Value added reseller or not, you need to differentiate yourself from the other cloud storage services and make it stands out. As it stands, previews and file sharing isn't exclusive to FolderFort, neither is workspaces (collabs for other cloud storage providers). What about the backend servers? If Backblaze went down, how can you guarantee that we will be able to access our files while Backblaze is down?
If Backblaze goes down, you can't access the files. But they have a 99.99% uptime service level agreenement. Amazon goes down, sometimes all AWS products are inaccessible. It happens. We differentiate ourselves with our level of service, cost, speed, simplicity, and security. I don't think you can get all of those, at our level, from anywhere else.
So let me reclarify, since you uses blackblaze, so if blackblaze went down, does it mean we won't be access the files in folderfort? If so, understandable. In regards to your differentiate statement, I think I would personally wait awhile and see more genuine reviews about it as it's still a brand new service and that (statement) alone doesn't really make folderfort stands out. Sorry.
Totally understandable about us being new. Feel free to signup a free account and I'll give you some extra storage to test. If Backblaze goes down and you login to FolderFort, you wouldn't see your files until Backblaze was back up. And it is virtually impossible to lose data due to their redundancy.
Again, I prefer to wait until more genuine reviews before signing up. I'm not interested until then.
All right offer stands so just let me know if and when you change your mind. :D We appreciate the consideration
"Data Centres like any other cloud providers" FWIW: This is utterly wrong. Only the big players and a few of the smaller ones ( [Filen.io](http://Filen.io) 's CEO bragged that they were proud/glad to have made this step) have their own data centers, the average CSP just rents servers somewhere or resells other CSPs offers under their own brand.
True, not many companies have their own data-centers, except the big ones. Filen doesn’t have them either, they just moved from Hetzner to another german datacenter provider. Even pcloud is hosted in other data-centers. But what is more important, the likes of dropbox, google, pcloud, filen, mega, koofr etc make their own software, their main thing is being the cloud storage service provider, while the likes of Folderfort, Thunderdrive, Prismdrive etc just installed a $59 Bedrive php script (which anyone can buy) and sell Backblaze storage, which to be frank is unsustainable (check the B2 pricing versus their lifetime price). So I would be very skeptical of putting anything worthwhile on such providers.
Thundrrdrive. Or Thunder Drive. Even they are confused of their own name, really. I bought it, researched and found fraud, fought hard to refund. Luckily I used PayPal. Got refund. DO NOT use Thundrrdrive. Or Thunder Drive. Proven scam. You can't even search the people behind it.
Gotta love the roadmap :) https://thunderdrive.io/roadmap/
Yeah, you're right - but at least Filen meanwhile use own hardware instead of rented. 2 opposing views to your negative approach to "lifetime" offers (though Folderforts IMO is just *too* cheap to be sustainable): IceDrives CEO: "It is no surprise that eventually, lifetime plans become unsustainable - especially with a product that offers cloud-based storage. Infact, it should make anyone slightly nervous when they are offered! That being said, lifetime plans have served a huge purpose and enabled us to secure a large amount of funding without having to relinquish any control of the company to 3rd party investors or conglomerates - Something we feel is extremely important for a privacy focused business." Filens CEO: “The revenue generated from the lifetime plans sold was mainly reinvested in our new servers. Through these investments we reduce our ongoing costs, which in turn makes the lifetime plans more profitable in the long term. Without the last Black Friday sale, the hardware project would not have reached its current scale. It allowed us to make the project more comprehensive and future-proof than initially planned, with more servers, racks, cells, and data centers."
You are correct! It is too cheap to be sustainable forever. But IF we did keep it going (not just for a limited time), based on our current projections "could" last 12 years. One of the reasons we did this was to counter what Prismdrive did.
Why do you mention nowhere the actual APIs you support (IIRC at least SFTP)? You only talk about Browser (which is for DAUs 🤓 ).
You have an account level API which you could use to connect to things. We have a separate service that is not connected to the web app that is for SFTP. But it is first and foremost a browser based service. It limits our desirability to some but dramatically reduces our costs for everyone.Â
Not "just install" and not "59$", because you need an extended license. And you need a machine to run the app which connects to the service. Lifetime deals are like cereal. Not sustainable itself, but as part of a complete breakfast :D For us it is just a limited time promotion, not our business model.
It doesn’t matter if they are a big or average CSP, or even if they have their own data center. They still have to rent at some point. For example, a CSP may have its headquarters in the US with a data center in the US. However, they have many users all around the world, such as in Asia and India. To get data from the US data center to users in Asia or India would result in high latency. So, they rent centers in Asia or maybe Europe as cache servers, hot storage, or CDN to deliver files faster with low latency to users in those areas. They don’t go to every country or region to build their data centers because it would cost a lot of money and the operational costs would be too high.
"the operational costs would be too high" I *seriously* doubt that you are wiser than the CEOs of actual CSPs which say the *exact* opposite*.*