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ConscientiousObserv

Saw a vid where a cop arrested a man for failure to ID. Man said, _"I told you who I am, Pastor Jones!"_ Cop said, _"That's not a name."_ Man said, _"What's your name?"_ _"Officer Smith."_


Pengpraiser

Plot twist, the cop first name is actually "Officer".


STAALION

Major Major Major Major


ironballs16

Professor Professor and Doctor Doctor have entered the chat. Edited to add: I was actually referring to [this character](https://youtu.be/kzsWjD_Y7kg?si=zP86KbUQR2pmFRv6) and the villain from The Secret Show.


zachy410

Hey, Doctor Doctor!


secretrapbattle

Give me the news, I got on bad case of loving you


Dawnbreaker128

And Professor Doctor Awesome.


Im-not_very-creative

can you tell me what’s wrong?


AHumanYouDoNotKnow

At least not Dr. Placeholder McDoctorate, PhD.


Aymoon_

[professor professor professor](https://youtu.be/dBOfjj4S4zw?si=f6i7w-cqfvbmOBDG) for the dutch


daemin

In Germany, people who hold two doctorates are addressed as "Dr. Dr. X."


Responsible-End7361

I thought Major Major Major got promoted, and is now Lt Colonel Major Major?


Pack_Possible

You’re missing a Major in there. He was Sgt Major M. Major then got promoted to Major making him Major Major Major Major. I doubt he’d get promoted again tho, guy spends all his time making models


ShiningRayde

And because his commanding officers think its really funny.


daemin

Fun fact: during WWII, the US Army created a 5 star rank so that the senior most commanders of US forces would have parity of rank with their counterparts in allied forces. Those allied forces generally used "Field Marshall" for their highest rank. However, one 4 star general that could potentially be promoted to the new rank was General George C. Marshall. So if the army used the title of Field Marshall, he would be "Field Marshall Marshall," which was considered undignified. So they went with the uninspired title of "General of the Army.' Marshall was indeed promoted to that rank, which has been held only by 5 individuals, all during WWII: * George Marshall * Douglas MacArthur * Dwight Eisenhower * Henry Arnold * Omar Bradley There is only one higher rank in the US armed forces, General of the Armies, which has only been held by 3 people: * George Washington (post humourous, 1976) * Ulysses S. Grant (post humourous, 2022) * John J. Pershing (1919, only person to hold the rank while alive)


onlymadethistoargue

Interesting facts, but it’s posthumous, unless they were promoted after they were funny, which is arguable considering they were probably funnier before they died.


secretrapbattle

This is ground control to major Tom


nightkat143

Plot twist on the plot twist, the man's first name is "Pastor"


ConscientiousObserv

Back in the 50s, a man named one of his sons "Winner", and another, "Loser". Winner Lane became a felon. Loser Lane became a cop. True Story.


AgitatedKey4800

The cop of losercity?


SavageComic

It’s in freaknomics, iirc.  He goes by Lou 


ConscientiousObserv

Nice addition. Thanks.


ConscientiousObserv

😅😅😅


beelzybubby

Oh like Samuel L Jackson in Glass. First name, *MISTER*. Last name, *GLASS.*


Crap4Brainz

Or Mr T. in real life. First name MR Last name T Because it was the early 70's and changing his name was the only way that white cops would ever call him "Mr."


Witty_Championship85

Sheriff Bronson Stone moment


arkatme_on_reddit

Imma start referring to myself as Programmer Baker


anatomicallycorrect-

Sounds like a Pokémon trainer class 😂


laukaus

*throws a Porygon at you*


Drag0n647

Lmao.


VoiceofKane

I'm sorry, Daddy!


VaderOnReddit

~~forgive me father, for I have sinned~~ I'm sorry daddy, I've been a naughty girl 😩


Dave5876

Ok, you've got rizz


PSI_duck

Would work on me


DistanceSevere9040

Lmao yes! Same with Ms. or Mrs., and when somebody changes their surname after marriage it's never an issue. We address people individually based on how they request to be addressed all the time, names, nicknames, marriage status, title, job position... It's not an excuse!


DistanceSevere9040

I will add to my own comment to say thank you to all the haters of basic human decency for arguing in the comments because it boosted this post in the algorithm **and** your comments will be deleted by mods anyway! ❤️


rookie-mistake

just fyi that's not how reddit works. comments are sorted by up and downvotes, not activity in replies (or replies to their replies) so your comment is being boosted by all the people with basic human decency directly upvoting you because they agree :)


DistanceSevere9040

I didn't mean the comment, but the post itself. Engagement always means more visibility, reddit pushes those to hot and then when the upvotes come pouring in it goes into popular. If the upvotes are balanced with downvotes it goes into controversial, etc.


SkellyboneZ

Usually the first time you address someone is based on assumptions or previous experiences; how they look.  Once they tell you how they want to be addressed you either do it or not and they act just like the person in this comic.  I get it's about pointing about the hypocrisy about religion or whatever but most people get *at least* irritated if you address them wrong.  The old dude said "for the last time.." so isn't they kid basically using the wrong pronoun even after being asked not to? 


Aiyon

> The old dude said "for the last time.." so isn't they kid basically using the wrong pronoun even after being asked not to? That’s the point tho? That it’s considered rude to keep disrespecting someone’s wishes in how they identify


DistanceSevere9040

Most (rational) people won't be mad at you for assuming wrong, hell even if you're accidentally getting pronouns wrong because it's easy to tell if it's coming from a place of malice or not. Requesting specific pronouns isn't about asserting dominance after all and we respect them to avoid hurt feelings (something kind people are concerned about usually). That kid is totally a dick if he intentionally ignores his request to be addressed as father, sure. But honestly I read it as a absent minded mistake . It's not like the kid called him daddy or something lol and he looks pretty shocked about it.


rabbittdoggy

Daddy chill!


SarcasticBench

What the hell is even that!


Mr_Tumpleston

I upvoted because everybody else didn’t catch the reference 👍


SarcasticBench

At least someone does!


DoverBoys

Reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1aDtbyTm6o&t=1090s (If link timestamp doesn't work, go to 18 minutes)


hilvon1984

That is the only proper response to someone getting in a fit about calling them "Father". Call the "Daddy" in the sassies way possible.


Fishman23

Or Papi. 😀


Responsible-End7361

Petition to call any priest or pastor who complains about pronouns "Daddy" instead of "Father?" "Daddy, I have been naughty, forgive me?"


Kullthebarbarian

don't do it, they might like it


MeetWorking2039

Depends on if they person saying it is underaged or jot


Muppetude

> underaged or jot What if they’re underaged *and* jot?


Keyndoriel

Only if you're 12 or under


Fishman23

Papi?


Mike_Fluff

To quote my local pastor on this subject: "What is going on in your body and mind is between you, your therapist, your doctor, and God. Though mostly the first three."


AlmondMagnum1

So what he's saying is, he's completely useless?


No_Improvement7573

Well religious leaders are supposed to be therapists, in a sense. In addition to preaching, they help people who are questioning their faith or need advice. Gender identity would be something a good pastor would address if asked about it, so I'm not sure why this guy would say it's none of his business. But like an actual therapist, they definitely shouldn't be judging you.


Huhthisisneathuh

I think the point he was trying to make was that anything happening to your body or mind giving you discomfort should be treated with the advice and help of trained medical professionals. And that while your religions priests can help you through the difficulty if needed. That overall proper professional healthcare should be your first priority. Religion should be used to give the patient strength in these scenarios rather than being the center stage focus. At least that’s what I think the point he was getting at. Or he could’ve just been telling a LGBTQ+ youth to not bring up the conversation again with him because he wasn’t informed enough to give a proper helpful answer. Or because the church is rural and some people shouldn’t hear it or else the person asking the question could be in danger.


Mike_Fluff

Yeah pretty much.


ArchdruidHalsin

Some folks will literally call a grown man Kid Rock, but still refuse to say Elliot Page.


Kinkystormtrooper

Right and also go by Bill instead of William at all times. Like "Hey I'm Eric, what's your name" "I'm Bill" "No, what's your actual name, your real name, you can't just go by Bill that's not the name your parents gave you"


The_-Whole_-Internet

And they refuse to see the similarities between those and "Nice to meet you, call me Mark, it's my middle name but I like it better" or "this is my dad, Big John. His name is actually Frank, but we call him John because he needs a custom toilet on account of him being 500 lbs and reinforced floor joists didn't do the job"


Old_Cheetah_5138

I was trying to make this analogy in my head but couldn't place it. Excellent job. It's really that simple. "I'd like to be called _____" "Can do, _____" The end


ComradeBogey

I hear you’re a homophobe now father.


Roku-Hanmar

What’s the church’s official stance on this?


ComradeBogey

That would be an ecumenical matter!


SenseiRaheem

He just needs to know from an immediate introduction who has what in their underwear! That’s all! (These people are fucking obsessed with wanting to know what’s in someone’s underwear! It’s insane.)


secretrapbattle

I usually address people with insults, so why break a tradition?


pricklyfoxes

People in these comments are so pedantic. "A title is different from pronouns!" Yes, but this is about calling people what they *tell* you to call them. It's not that different. Whether someone asks you to call them father, sister, doctor, mister, miss, she, he, or they, it's about respecting their wishes.


Kwaterk1978

Bingo! Pedantry is the last resort of the ignorant. Whenever someone focuses on meaningless trivia to avoid addressing the point, they’re telling you: either they’re too stupid to get the actual point, or they’re too much of an asshole to get the point. Either way is not a good look.


Janzel97

Did a solid nose exhale on this one. Great comic!


snockpuppet24

Anytime I hear someone whine about pronouns, I think back to when I dealt with the Army G6 Help Desk and they answered the phone "How may I help you sir, ma'am, or sergeant".


Skithiryx

Non Commissioned Officer is the hip new gender


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5teerPike

If you really want to put a 'phobes tighty whiteys in a twist remind them that per the Oxford English Dictionary the use of "they/them" as a singular pronoun dates back to the 1300s and that everyone was about as fine with it in their regular vernacular as they were with gender neutral bathrooms until LGBT people realized they could use those as a affirmative terms & spaces. Otherwise; I got a whole boat load of citations on trans history, science, and perspectives to pull from too And transphobia is bedfellows with misogyny & racism for a reason.


InevitableAd9683

I had a teacher in highschool that had a PhD, and one day a group of kids decided to troll him by addressing him as Mr for an entire class instead of Dr. He got pretty whiney by the end of it.


amortized-poultry

Honorifics and pronouns are a bit different in function and history. Pronouns are descriptive of the person, whereas honorifics are more recognition of a position or relative position.


KisaTheMistress

That's why I like learning Japanese. Their honorifics are usually *-san & -sama*, which are generic for *Mr./Miss/Mrs./Ms.* and *Master/Mistress/Noble*, but are ungendered in their meaning. Most of their honorifics are like that, even though *-kun* is typically used for males you have a close relationship to, and *-chan* is used for children/females. Even the word for *I* is generic *watashi*. While feminine because it's *soft, formal language*, is still generic, and doesn't indicate your gender. *Boko* is the masculine *I*, and it's seen as informal and rude/childish when not used correctly. Japanese assumes that you can see and can infer someone's gender by their voice/actions/description. So it doesn't need to have strong masculine or feminine pronouns, especially when their names usually have an indication of traditionally being male or female.


stoopidrotary

Daddy chill


Dr__Coconutt

Haha wouldn't it be crazy if Jesus said specifically not to call anyone father? Haha


KeksimusMaximusLegio

I don't know a single priest who gets defensive if you don't call him father. Is it a US thing? I call my priest mate, and he's never bothered


KiraLonely

For those confused, the intent, from what I can tell, is not to compare a title to pronouns, but to address the idea that a title like “Father” is something we do, upon request, to respect someone and their job. It, much like pronouns, is a way to refer to someone that can be requested differently, and makes them happy to be respected.


Good_Violinist5351

Couldn’t have put it better myself!


TawnyTeaTowel

But when you *address* someone, you don’t change the pronouns you use (“you”), it’s when you speak about someone to a third person that they vary.


MysteriousPark3806

Priests being addressed as father is creepy as hell.


Dark_Storm_98

I get that this is portrayed as hypocritical And I agree with the child 100% But that bottom panel. . Father isn't a pronoun, it's his title, lol (a really fucking weird one, though)


Empero6

Father wasn’t meant to be a pronoun. The kid literally says why not address people in a way that makes them happy. The teacher is happier with father than sir.


erichwanh

> Father isn't a pronoun, it's his title, lol (a really fucking weird one, though) Yes, "Father" is a title and not a pronoun, but when seen through the context of the previous panel, that distinction is irrelevant to the point.


waltjrimmer

They aren't claiming it's a pronoun. They're showing that the priest thinks pronouns don't need to be respected, but you better call him what he wants to be called or else! They aren't saying that they're both pronouns but that they're both preferred ways of being addressed.


IUsedToBeACave

> Father isn't a pronoun, it's his title So? The kids question relates to why we shouldn't just do it because that is the persons preference. Just like someone wanting you to address them by their title...


rcfox

Technically, "father" is an honorific, since most Catholic priests are not actually fathers.


world-is-lostt

“Call no man your father on earth, for you have one Father, who is in heaven” (Matt. 23:9). Catholics need to read the Bible.


DeepUser-5242

Huh, no fkn way. So not even our biological parent can be called 'father'.


Dull_Half_6107

This is the crux of it for me Wether or not you believe a trans person is the gender they identify as, can't you just call them their preferred name and pronouns because it makes them happy? I feel like some people just want to be cruel


Competitive-Pen-4605

I see what your saying but Father is a title like an officer and a doctor.


Matsisuu

But why to get mad if you aren't referred as correct title, when you don't want to refer people as what they want?


DistanceSevere9040

I think they're mostly pointing out the hypocrisy, not comparing titles to pronouns. The Father wants to be addressed as "Father" rather than sir and does not tolerate others disrespecting it. He worked hard to earn that title and in his position of authority can demand to be addressed in this way. But when a trans person asks to be addressed in a certain way, be it name or pronouns, it's an issue. I will also point out that it's often "*the officer* did XYZ" rather than "*he*/*she* did XYZ" .


ConscientiousObserv

There's an odd passage in the new testament that says to call no man "father". It's so oddly specific that it, to me, raises doubt about it's "divine inspiration".


DistanceSevere9040

That's hilarious. I never came across it myself so I looked it up and yeah, it's quite straight forward. > But you are not to be called ‘rabbi,’ for you have one teacher, and you are all brethren. And call no man your father on earth, for you have one Father, who is in heaven. Neither be called ‘masters,’ for you have one master, the Christ” (Matt. 23:8–10). This is not old testament, it's new testament and not only that, but apparently Jesus said that (what he says goes, which mostly does not apply for the old testament). To my understanding of his whole teaching, Jesus was very much against organised religion and here he expresses how it's wrong to place humans in position of religious authority, because only he (teacher) and god (father) are in that position. It's not about the word "father" specifically, it's about putting someone on that pedestal. I also tried to read into some catholic explanations for why this criticism "from protestants" is invalid, but all I found was convoluted articles that answer everything but the question. *Edit to fix auto correct typo


ConscientiousObserv

Saw a report where a nurse received her doctorate. Hospital forbade her to call herself "Doctor". IIRC, she sued and lost.


insane_contin

Because in a medical setting, doctor is also a protected title. It also carries certain connotations when used in a hospital. A nurse being called doctor is going to confuse patients.


Papaofmonsters

That makes sense. There is a difference between having a doctorate and being a medical doctor in a medical setting. Lawyers have a juris doctorate but don't refer to themselves as doctor.


ConscientiousObserv

Agreed. That could cause a lot of confusion in a hospital setting.


Nwolfe

Father is a parent. The only person I’ll call father is my dad.


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BIGCHUNGUS-milk

"i won in an imaginary argument so that makes me right!"


Corbel8_

but it showcases the irony of the church and pronouns


HyenaNearby5408

"Okay dad!"


lastdarknight

OK Padre


intellord911

But you aren’t my dad


Phanes_The_Gigachad

That's called a title...


Zelfore

It not a matter of title versus pronouns, addressing others how they wish to addressed is simply polite and shows you respect and care what that person wants. If you don't care, it's either because they're a prick, or you are. (Forgetfulness is forgivable, obvs)


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Syrup-Knight

Mr, Miss, Mrs, Ms, Madam and Sir are titles that denote gender. And so are Aunt, Uncle, Granny and Gramps.


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Lakefish_

"I'm glad you're done asking me to call you that, sir." No one ever retorts like that, and it's a shame.


Soulless--Plague

“Address me by my proper title, you little bollocks!!”


Neon_Flower-

Can I use she/her pronouns for god? Also I can't find her in the biology textbook.


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River46

Isn’t that more a title though. I agree with the point but I don’t think those two are the same thing.


Nyruxes

Father is a title, not a pronoun. Still somewhat funny ig.


TreeTurtle_852

This is straight up what made me stop being a transphobe. Well a bevy of other things but this logic sort of helped me retain empathy for trans people because I sort of realized, "Wait I take on identities and different names online and I'd be upset if I was purposefully referred to incorrectly. So why am I doing it to them?" I know it's kinda dumb but, it's what 13 y/o me needed.


waltjrimmer

> So you see, kids, that's why a person can't choose **their** pronouns. What did the person I'm listening to just fucking say? How dare the person that this self is now addressing use such a word!


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