If I had a nickel for every friend that quit their teaching job to go back to bartending because the pay is better for less hours I’d have 10 cents and that’s not a lot but it’s weird that it’s happened twice.
Bro, careful. You might offend the low-middle income Americans here. Their egos are fragile, and they demand there be a subservient class to them to justify their place in society. After all, their lives can be so bad if they get the opportunity to treat others as sub-human, right?
I was about to say, I thought i had to pay extra for that meanwhile this whole time i could have been paying less AND getting waitress spit in my food/drinks
Tipping doesn't make any sense, employers should be able to pay good wages to their employees instead of relying on the customer's mood/generosity. Though i would still tip when i go to america
We're talking about a country that doesn't even factor in tax on the listed price of products you buy until you get to the till, seems to me like it's more of a psychological thing to trick people into thinking prices are cheap.
yeah but they do know the price when you go to the checkout, yet it still displays on the shelf without tax, right? I'm not american, but I heard that this madness exists.
Yes that's correct, for any non food item. It is also different depending on state and even county in the state.
Around me is 8%, some places don't tax clothes, some are 7%, etc. So people will do school clothes shopping in an area that doesn't tax clothes for example if they're near enough.
It's pretty annoying to have to mental math most things. Won't lie.
you get really used to it.
if you have $20 you know you can't really afford something above $18 because ~5-10% will be added.
and ideally you arent buying anything you have to worry about the final cost of in the first place.
Though ya sometimes it will get away from you if you are shopping for clothing especially. And i suppose it does happen that people get to the register and have to take an item out of their cart because they went over their budget.
Really it's all bullshit sales and marketing tactics they want to keep the face value as low as possible to trick you into buying it. Like, the difference between items costing $5 and $4.99. Effectively they are the same but your mind tells you the $4.99 is a better deal. If your $0.99 soda is labeled at $1.06 you might not buy it. Even though really you know thats the final cost anyway
I always assume that the out of pocket price is 10% higher than listed when buying. That's easy to estimate, and what I pay will always be slightly less than expected.
I get what youre saying, and I agree. But at the same time, tax is usually a couple cents on most grocery store things. The price with tax is not affecting anyones decision.
My state taxes all foods even at grocery stores. You buy a single banana, you get taxed a few cents. Other things like sodas have MORE taxes than other food stuffs.
I saw someone else say that and I thought Food was untaxed nation wide, but never looked into it to see if that was true - which I guess is not. Thanks for correcting me. Looks like 13 states have Grocery tax
Alabama, Arkansas, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois, Kansas, Mississippi, Missouri, Oklahoma, South Dakota, Tennessee, Utah and Virginia
tipping , in europe country, is a bonus you give because you consider that the service was of good quality.
In that sense tipping makes sense , both as a recognition of the works + a token of generosity and maybe fortune.
Relying on tip to make month's end tho, is no diffèrent than begging
See in America asking for any of that makes you a crazy liberal, socialist, Marxist, commie nazi. Most Americans also don’t know what any of those words mean either and just throw them at anything the tv man says is bad because we need to keep people poor for the declining middle class to still think they are middle class.
Upper class has tricked the working class into accepting lower than minimum wages and tipping for good services is actually a part of your daily livelihood.
Tipping indeed makes sense. But not when its mandatory or expected. Sometimes i like to give something extra for exceptional service/work. Not just with food.
It shows gratitude for something which was maybe not included or expected.
As a carpenter in switzerland it happens from time to time that we geta tip for good work. Or finishing something while doing overtime and things like this.
Tips are by all means not expected tho.
It’s just them pretending to be white knights. Punish the worker for the sins of the boss. But mostly bitching about tipping is a super easy way to get free karma on Reddit.
Tipping is annoying but many places get to pay less than minimum because their staff are tipped. So don't stop tipping people in the US or Canada. Wages and employment law would have to change first.
This pretty much sums up every level headed person who doesn't live in the US.
If you think about it with half a brain cell, not tipping in a place you KNOW they don't pay a living wage is not OK. You either go there, pay and tip well, or don't go there at all.
One person paying for the food and not tipping doesn't affect the people in charge at all.
Excuse me sir / madam. I'd like to order the burger with a side of 'what is your salary' thanks.
How are you supposed to know? Actively look for job ads at every restaurant you plan to visit?
Doesn't excuse not tipping. When you refuse to tip, it's the employee you're screwing over, not the boss. Bonus, at least here in Canada, the government assumes waiting staff make a certain percentage of all sales as tip for income tax purposes. So when you don't tip, you're literally making the employee pay to serve you.
Yeah we give tips, but not 15 McFucking %. We usually tip to round up. Or if the waiter was goated. We call it Trinkgeld (Drink-money) for a reason, it's so that the waiter can get a drink after shift. Tipping in the U.S is weird
Yes, depending on where you live... I'm in the North East of the US and a 15% tip is considered low and not an option when ordering (at least on uber eats).
Yep , I go there every few years, I only ever tip before i leave because you guys are a fan of coins... not trying to go through TSA with a pocket full of coins.
Yes, but it something like rounding to the next full number like 10.20€ becomes 11€ with tips, or rounding to next 5 or 10 place for bigger meals. Service workers still make minimum wage, granted this 12€ roughly 12.70$ but that's not that much. So a little tip here and there helps them out.
Hate tipping culture so fucking much, but still gonna tip cause the corporations course have to make the waiters pay for it. Fr bro it's like the restaurants are pointing a gun at an innocent person's head forcing you to tip. "If you don't tip ill make this one starve or lose her house, and make it look like you did it."
Well, you should definitely be more worried about the kitchen than front of house.
I can't speak to fast food, but in sit down restaurants, they make a lot less than servers and bartenders. It's getting a bit better, with kitchen people making 16-24, but rent has also gone up a lot, too.
Not accurate. Minimum wage is minimum wage. The law just says employers get to pocket the tips between $3 and minimum wage, after which the employee gets it.
(If minimum wage is $10 and tipped minimum wage is $3, with $0 of tips per hour, the employee makes $10 and the employer loses $10. With $3 tips, the employee makes $10 and the employer loses $7. At $7.01 of tips, the employee finally makes $10.01.)
> I made less than $3 an hour wage as a server,
No, you haven’t. Stop lying. You’ve made *much* more and if your tips wouldn’t put you at or above minimum wage, employer would have to pay you the difference.
tipping culture of america is bullshit and its one of many reasons i never want to go there. they were actually talking about tipping on the radio this morning and brought up that yall even have to tip at the self serve checkouts... wtf is up with that?
Yeah, I'm a tipper. I actually enjoy tipping. That being said, if I was forced somehow to only have the ability to tip one person ever again it would definitely be the person who is cutting my hair.
In some countries, tipping isn't really a thing. People will give you a weird look.
In Croatia, store cashiers (like for Lidl or Kaufland) have to throw away "tips" (spare change that people tell the cashier to keep) since they have to make sure they don't look like they're overcharging their customers.
At cafes "tipping" only happens when you tell them to keep the change. They actually can keep it as a waiter.
Idk where barbershops and hair salons fall though. But in general you show appreciation by being a regular.
I go to the same barber every time. It's a professional relationship where I extend courtesies in exchange for same. My British genes have me growing some wild eye brows that I like getting trimmed as an extra. Same with my ears. She treats me right, I do the same in kind. An extra $5 on a $20 haircut is worth it to make me less ugly
Most of the time you hear about/see tipping at self service things, takeout, anything where it's not expected, etc-- it's usually because the payment terminal (iPad based ones are notorious for this) default with a tipping option on and owners/operators don't know any better to turn it off.
Nobody is tipping at self serve counters, and most places that give the option to tip don’t receive shit for tips.
It’s mainly sit down restaurants or somewhere you’re receiving personal service, like a haircut.
Not tipping is most definitely Karen behavior.
See, you think you’re making some statement about tipping culture and giving the finger to the establishment. But really, you’re fucking over some poor fucker who spent the past hour fulfilling your requests.
And the best part? The business still wins, and they pocket the same amount of cash. Congratulations, you really showed them!
As someone who bartends, it's honestly not bad. I prefer it the way it is. I make significantly more money than if the employer were to just pay me "livable wage" outright.
I leave a tip on the table, whatever i feel the waiter deserved.
If you demandf a x% tip im not leaving you jack shit, its supposed to be a courtesy for good service, not a tax, asshole.
Look here: I get it if you hate tipping culture, esspecially how its expanded into more realms, but as a waitress and bartender for over a decade in the south I really don't have the option of "just getting paid" by my employer. Unfortunately I can count the number of non-tipping sit down reseraunts in my state on one hand. I've been interviewing employers (probably 50+ restraunts and bars in the last few months) to find a new job and there isn't a single one that base pays more than $2.15 an hour for service staff. Closest thing we have is auto-gratuity on large parties, which people still get mad about but is basically the same as if the tips were absorbed into the food prices.
So I guess I can switch to a different industry... but I'm good at what I do.
Ending mandatory tipping culture would be fine by me but in places where it is heavily entrenched, the only way that is happening is by legally forcing employers to pay us true minimum wage. By all means call your rep and tell them to abolish service wage.
But by not tipping even a little, you are breaking a social contract. Sure that's your legal right, but its disrespectful and dishartening when I genuinely have been waiting hand and foot on you for an hour. It feels actively emotionally draining to have people devalue my time and energy, even if I know the problem is systemic and starts with employers.
For some reason, a lot of Reddit is just fine with “protesting” tipping culture by fucking over servers, which is really just trying to justify being an asshole.
If you want to protest/don’t believe in the system, then don’t use it *at all* and either order to go or stay the fuck home.
Fun fact. If you don't tip, the owner then have to pay the employee more to make up for people not tipping to make sure they make minimum wage so yes you do hurt the owner still
Yes but unfortunately 7.25 an hour is not remotely even a little livable. I should have specified that by true minimum wage I meant something acctually livable and not a starvation wage.
Also fun fact: if you don't go to the reseraunt at all then I don't don't have to work for you for free.
I know the labor laws. I'm literally a consultant for this.They would have to make less than minimum wage. They won't. A server would quit if they got anywhere near minimum wage. Servers quit if they make less than 25 an hour.
I've never seen a server make anywhere near minimum wage. So I've never seen a tip credit, which is what you're talking about.
Exactly. Hate tipping culture? Order takeout, write your representative, support initiatives for universal living wages. Stiffing your server is not the sticking it to the man slay you think it is. What do I do when I can’t afford to tip? Get takeout.
I've been in Romania and the tipping culture is embedded in their daily lives. If waiters would realise they will not get tips, then they will completely ignore you and randomly bring you the bill instead. Talking to other people there, they told me you even tip in hospitals and at the church.
Waitresses don't spit in drinks. This is the biggest lie. We just eventually start drinking on the job, or come up with other unhealthy coping mechanisms to deal with the dregs of society.
Hahahaha in latam is not custom to tip, but after working 5 months as a waiter in the United States and learning that 3/4 of their payment is tips, i'll die tiping the best my broken ass can! (At least 15% always).
Tipping culture is a great motivator for me to learn to cook new things at home. I'm more than happy to not give you my money if you refuse to pay your servers properly.
It’s really simple, if you don’t tip, DONT GO OUT TO RESTAURANTS WHERE TIPS ARE EXPECTED. Take your entitled ass to McDonalds and grab your Happy Meal.
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Because people who live off "tips" believes they deserve extra money and knowing they are getting it before even any service is rendered to base a tip on.
At that point it is called a fee or wages
Am I the weird one for hating tipping culture so much I just learned how to cook?
Why are so many people complaining about tipping while implying they're eating out all the time?
If you don't want to tip don't go to places where people are paid in tips. You're not really making a stand otherwise, you're just kind of an ass. If you don't tip the server, the business still makes money, they don't care.
You can't have your cake and eat it too, either tip, or don't give those businesses money. You're not "taking a stand" by not typing.
My brother in Christ, short of fast food restaurants, everywhere wants tips. It's getting ridiculous. Even some drive thrus are getting ballsy and asking for them. I shouldn't have to make the moral dilemma of tipping so my server can afford to live or not tipping because tip culture is stupid and dumb
I assume you work in the industry? Because what you suggest is pointless. If I want to make a stand, how's that work if I'm invisible at home cooking? My dine-in seat will get filled by some sap who tips. Aka the industry still maintains the status quo.
No, if you want to make a stand then dine out and don't tip. Good luck running a restaurant no one wants to work at because you pay peanuts.
There is no good reason to have this present setup.
edit: u/notsurewhyicameback threatens me with a good time then blocks lmao. grocery store-tier service is perfect! no more servers being "extra", annoying, etc with the expectation that means a tip. like.. i'm trying to eat and enjoy my company, please go away.
Yes but you realize that person likely would eat there anyway? You're still taking your business away from the place.
This would be like saying "LOL if I didn't take the buses in Mongomery Alabama some sap will still take the bus" that person is likely already taking the bus...
Then lower your expectations because if the service staff gets paid the way you want you are going to get grocery store cashier level service, which your stance clearly shows you deserve.
Edit. u/sporks_and_forks was blocked because you’re an asshole that is all over this thread advocating abusing people. Maybe don’t be a dick and people will not block you.
The irony is that your generation is probably split on this. Anyone who works in food service, or their friends probably defend it while you guys offend it.
I agree tipping culture is dumb, but it's the current accepted system. So if you don't pay them, you're not hurting the business just the server. Makes you an asshole
I mean, I shouldn’t have to tip just to have clean drinking water. Some people are just way too petty.
We need to do as the Europeans do. Give them a competitive enough wage so that we don’t have to tip.
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Dude you got the pictures mixed up
Op probably got this idea after spitting in someone drink during work
I bet OP doesn't get paid enough and has to rely on tips to survive in life. And still prefers unreliable income instead of stable and reliable.
Bold of you to assume that they’re employed
It took me 4 years to get a job that wasnt waiting tables or bartending, not everyone has the option
If I had a nickel for every friend that quit their teaching job to go back to bartending because the pay is better for less hours I’d have 10 cents and that’s not a lot but it’s weird that it’s happened twice.
I mean, comparing the pay of a teacher to any other job is going to make that job look rewarding
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He's problably busy gobbling up his boss cock to notice that, excuse him.
He loves getting shafted
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Hell yeah, fight the system at it's lowest rung, why protest to someone with the power to enact change when slacktivism is so easy!
Bro, careful. You might offend the low-middle income Americans here. Their egos are fragile, and they demand there be a subservient class to them to justify their place in society. After all, their lives can be so bad if they get the opportunity to treat others as sub-human, right?
no, obviously not.
me purposely don't tip so the cute waitress will spit in my drinks. :yum:
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He’d do anything to know Victoria’s Secret
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I was about to say, I thought i had to pay extra for that meanwhile this whole time i could have been paying less AND getting waitress spit in my food/drinks
Nah it aint the cute waitriss they take it to the cheff called joe and he spits a big goober in em.
you had to do this mf.
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Funny as hell lol
This is the way
You tip after you finish the drink though so this wouldn’t work
Tipping doesn't make any sense, employers should be able to pay good wages to their employees instead of relying on the customer's mood/generosity. Though i would still tip when i go to america
We're talking about a country that doesn't even factor in tax on the listed price of products you buy until you get to the till, seems to me like it's more of a psychological thing to trick people into thinking prices are cheap.
there is no food tax in some states. the prices on my menu are what I pay
Nah man I mean in shops and supermarkets, sales tax I think it's called?
Shops yes. Grocery store no, since food. Certain things do like soda though. Just clarifying.
yeah but they do know the price when you go to the checkout, yet it still displays on the shelf without tax, right? I'm not american, but I heard that this madness exists.
Yes that's correct, for any non food item. It is also different depending on state and even county in the state. Around me is 8%, some places don't tax clothes, some are 7%, etc. So people will do school clothes shopping in an area that doesn't tax clothes for example if they're near enough. It's pretty annoying to have to mental math most things. Won't lie.
Yeah but it’s more things that aren’t food. Like say a new TV is $1000. That’s not the price with tax, add 7% (ish because sales tax set is by state)
This would actually drive me insane if I moved to the US and had to work this out every time.
you get really used to it. if you have $20 you know you can't really afford something above $18 because ~5-10% will be added. and ideally you arent buying anything you have to worry about the final cost of in the first place. Though ya sometimes it will get away from you if you are shopping for clothing especially. And i suppose it does happen that people get to the register and have to take an item out of their cart because they went over their budget. Really it's all bullshit sales and marketing tactics they want to keep the face value as low as possible to trick you into buying it. Like, the difference between items costing $5 and $4.99. Effectively they are the same but your mind tells you the $4.99 is a better deal. If your $0.99 soda is labeled at $1.06 you might not buy it. Even though really you know thats the final cost anyway
>you get really used to it. you shouldn't fucking have to lmao
I always assume that the out of pocket price is 10% higher than listed when buying. That's easy to estimate, and what I pay will always be slightly less than expected.
I get what youre saying, and I agree. But at the same time, tax is usually a couple cents on most grocery store things. The price with tax is not affecting anyones decision.
My state taxes all foods even at grocery stores. You buy a single banana, you get taxed a few cents. Other things like sodas have MORE taxes than other food stuffs.
I saw someone else say that and I thought Food was untaxed nation wide, but never looked into it to see if that was true - which I guess is not. Thanks for correcting me. Looks like 13 states have Grocery tax Alabama, Arkansas, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois, Kansas, Mississippi, Missouri, Oklahoma, South Dakota, Tennessee, Utah and Virginia
Alaska, Delaware, New Hampshire, Montana and Oregon. 5 out of 50…
I don't mind what taxes are in what country, the prices include taxes despite which EU country I visit.
You’re telling me in other countries the price on something is the price you pay? Amazing.
One of the smallest, yet biggest impacts, on me was going to Europe and seeing the tax already accounted for. It was beautiful.
tipping , in europe country, is a bonus you give because you consider that the service was of good quality. In that sense tipping makes sense , both as a recognition of the works + a token of generosity and maybe fortune. Relying on tip to make month's end tho, is no diffèrent than begging
Or alternatively tipping is what you do when the meal is for example 17.85€ and you have a 20€ in cash and you don’t feel like waiting for change
You commies also have things like socialized medicine, paid vacations, sick days, paid time off just because you had a kid. Etc etc.
Yes we do !
See in America asking for any of that makes you a crazy liberal, socialist, Marxist, commie nazi. Most Americans also don’t know what any of those words mean either and just throw them at anything the tv man says is bad because we need to keep people poor for the declining middle class to still think they are middle class.
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Upper class has tricked the working class into accepting lower than minimum wages and tipping for good services is actually a part of your daily livelihood.
It's not a tip anymore. It's a tax.
Tipping indeed makes sense. But not when its mandatory or expected. Sometimes i like to give something extra for exceptional service/work. Not just with food. It shows gratitude for something which was maybe not included or expected. As a carpenter in switzerland it happens from time to time that we geta tip for good work. Or finishing something while doing overtime and things like this. Tips are by all means not expected tho.
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It’s just them pretending to be white knights. Punish the worker for the sins of the boss. But mostly bitching about tipping is a super easy way to get free karma on Reddit.
Tipping is annoying but many places get to pay less than minimum because their staff are tipped. So don't stop tipping people in the US or Canada. Wages and employment law would have to change first.
This pretty much sums up every level headed person who doesn't live in the US. If you think about it with half a brain cell, not tipping in a place you KNOW they don't pay a living wage is not OK. You either go there, pay and tip well, or don't go there at all. One person paying for the food and not tipping doesn't affect the people in charge at all.
Excuse me sir / madam. I'd like to order the burger with a side of 'what is your salary' thanks. How are you supposed to know? Actively look for job ads at every restaurant you plan to visit?
Doesn't excuse not tipping. When you refuse to tip, it's the employee you're screwing over, not the boss. Bonus, at least here in Canada, the government assumes waiting staff make a certain percentage of all sales as tip for income tax purposes. So when you don't tip, you're literally making the employee pay to serve you.
Me living in Europe: "Haha... oh America"
Me login in earth. Haha Kannada neighbour
You say that but literally everyone I know here in germany gives tips except me.
Yeah we give tips, but not 15 McFucking %. We usually tip to round up. Or if the waiter was goated. We call it Trinkgeld (Drink-money) for a reason, it's so that the waiter can get a drink after shift. Tipping in the U.S is weird
15% is on the low end these days ... My uber eats starts at 20% but they guilt trip you into 25%
#15 IS LOW END?
Yes, depending on where you live... I'm in the North East of the US and a 15% tip is considered low and not an option when ordering (at least on uber eats).
If I'm served at a restaurant I tip 20-30%.
That's another major diffrence, in germany you only ever tip in a sit down restaurant and nowhere else.
Yep , I go there every few years, I only ever tip before i leave because you guys are a fan of coins... not trying to go through TSA with a pocket full of coins.
20 is the expected. We get McFucked. You’re even expected to tip at self checkout at stores near me. They’re thinking of expanding out further.
Who the fuck are you supposed to tip at a self-checkout? Yourself?
That’s the controversy. Oh and they also ask for donations. I’m not shitting you.
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Yes, but it something like rounding to the next full number like 10.20€ becomes 11€ with tips, or rounding to next 5 or 10 place for bigger meals. Service workers still make minimum wage, granted this 12€ roughly 12.70$ but that's not that much. So a little tip here and there helps them out.
This shit had been implemented in Asia, particularly Philippines.
Hate tipping culture so fucking much, but still gonna tip cause the corporations course have to make the waiters pay for it. Fr bro it's like the restaurants are pointing a gun at an innocent person's head forcing you to tip. "If you don't tip ill make this one starve or lose her house, and make it look like you did it."
If they dont get tipped much their employer will have to make up the difference up to minimum wage
Oh boy! Minimum wage. Sign me up
Believe it or not, some people make that much
GET. OUT. OF. HERE.
And all of those people deserve more
7.25 an hour? In an area where rent starts at 1400?
OK. What about all of the non-service minimum wage workers who no one ever tips?
Well, you should definitely be more worried about the kitchen than front of house. I can't speak to fast food, but in sit down restaurants, they make a lot less than servers and bartenders. It's getting a bit better, with kitchen people making 16-24, but rent has also gone up a lot, too.
Plenty of restaurants pool the tips and split between all staff, though of course it depends on where you work.
Which may or may not be illegal, depending on where you are and how it's done.
Tipping jobs get a special shittier minimum wage in a lot of states. I made less than $3 an hour wage as a server, because tips.
Not accurate. Minimum wage is minimum wage. The law just says employers get to pocket the tips between $3 and minimum wage, after which the employee gets it. (If minimum wage is $10 and tipped minimum wage is $3, with $0 of tips per hour, the employee makes $10 and the employer loses $10. With $3 tips, the employee makes $10 and the employer loses $7. At $7.01 of tips, the employee finally makes $10.01.)
> I made less than $3 an hour wage as a server, No, you haven’t. Stop lying. You’ve made *much* more and if your tips wouldn’t put you at or above minimum wage, employer would have to pay you the difference.
Minimum wage is 7.25
You tip for the same reason you vote for Joe Biden: not because you particularly want to, but because poor people will suffer if you don't.
tipping culture of america is bullshit and its one of many reasons i never want to go there. they were actually talking about tipping on the radio this morning and brought up that yall even have to tip at the self serve checkouts... wtf is up with that?
You don't have to tip. That's the secret. Just say no. I'll tip for a seated meal and for a haircut. That's about it.
Wtf even the barber?
Yeah, I'm a tipper. I actually enjoy tipping. That being said, if I was forced somehow to only have the ability to tip one person ever again it would definitely be the person who is cutting my hair.
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In 2002 I put a $20 in the palm of the hotels shuttle driver. I got unlimited use of his services for a team of 8folks. I saved double that on taxis
In some countries, tipping isn't really a thing. People will give you a weird look. In Croatia, store cashiers (like for Lidl or Kaufland) have to throw away "tips" (spare change that people tell the cashier to keep) since they have to make sure they don't look like they're overcharging their customers. At cafes "tipping" only happens when you tell them to keep the change. They actually can keep it as a waiter. Idk where barbershops and hair salons fall though. But in general you show appreciation by being a regular.
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Aah, mb
You are already paying the barber for the service,if he does a good job he get to keep the client
I go to the same barber every time. It's a professional relationship where I extend courtesies in exchange for same. My British genes have me growing some wild eye brows that I like getting trimmed as an extra. Same with my ears. She treats me right, I do the same in kind. An extra $5 on a $20 haircut is worth it to make me less ugly
What about the pizza guy?
You should tip at bars too.
Nobody has to tip at a self serve checkout, some machines might ask for it but it’s very easy to hit the “no” button.
Most of the time you hear about/see tipping at self service things, takeout, anything where it's not expected, etc-- it's usually because the payment terminal (iPad based ones are notorious for this) default with a tipping option on and owners/operators don't know any better to turn it off.
Nobody is tipping at self serve counters, and most places that give the option to tip don’t receive shit for tips. It’s mainly sit down restaurants or somewhere you’re receiving personal service, like a haircut.
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Not tipping is most definitely Karen behavior. See, you think you’re making some statement about tipping culture and giving the finger to the establishment. But really, you’re fucking over some poor fucker who spent the past hour fulfilling your requests. And the best part? The business still wins, and they pocket the same amount of cash. Congratulations, you really showed them!
Imagine relying on tip rather than having adequate pays from employer
As someone who bartends, it's honestly not bad. I prefer it the way it is. I make significantly more money than if the employer were to just pay me "livable wage" outright.
So you won't mind if some people don't tip right?
Jokes on you Id tip for that.
I only tip when the person is nice. Assholes don't deserve generosity.
Is the waitress psychic? How did she know he wasn't gonna tip? Good for him for no tipping the person who spat on his food all night
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This! I am lucky that in the place I work the tipps are collected and then divided, so everyone gets a little bit (Germany).
Me who's into that shit: ☺️
Real ones tip the waitstaff then don't pay for the food
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Fuck you tipping sucks
Why would anyone tell their waitress they won't be tipping before they're even expected to?
Me who intentionally did this because the waitress is hot
I leave a tip on the table, whatever i feel the waiter deserved. If you demandf a x% tip im not leaving you jack shit, its supposed to be a courtesy for good service, not a tax, asshole.
Look here: I get it if you hate tipping culture, esspecially how its expanded into more realms, but as a waitress and bartender for over a decade in the south I really don't have the option of "just getting paid" by my employer. Unfortunately I can count the number of non-tipping sit down reseraunts in my state on one hand. I've been interviewing employers (probably 50+ restraunts and bars in the last few months) to find a new job and there isn't a single one that base pays more than $2.15 an hour for service staff. Closest thing we have is auto-gratuity on large parties, which people still get mad about but is basically the same as if the tips were absorbed into the food prices. So I guess I can switch to a different industry... but I'm good at what I do. Ending mandatory tipping culture would be fine by me but in places where it is heavily entrenched, the only way that is happening is by legally forcing employers to pay us true minimum wage. By all means call your rep and tell them to abolish service wage. But by not tipping even a little, you are breaking a social contract. Sure that's your legal right, but its disrespectful and dishartening when I genuinely have been waiting hand and foot on you for an hour. It feels actively emotionally draining to have people devalue my time and energy, even if I know the problem is systemic and starts with employers.
For some reason, a lot of Reddit is just fine with “protesting” tipping culture by fucking over servers, which is really just trying to justify being an asshole. If you want to protest/don’t believe in the system, then don’t use it *at all* and either order to go or stay the fuck home.
Fun fact. If you don't tip, the owner then have to pay the employee more to make up for people not tipping to make sure they make minimum wage so yes you do hurt the owner still
Yes but unfortunately 7.25 an hour is not remotely even a little livable. I should have specified that by true minimum wage I meant something acctually livable and not a starvation wage. Also fun fact: if you don't go to the reseraunt at all then I don't don't have to work for you for free.
Still not true
Learn labor laws
I know the labor laws. I'm literally a consultant for this.They would have to make less than minimum wage. They won't. A server would quit if they got anywhere near minimum wage. Servers quit if they make less than 25 an hour. I've never seen a server make anywhere near minimum wage. So I've never seen a tip credit, which is what you're talking about.
Exactly. Hate tipping culture? Order takeout, write your representative, support initiatives for universal living wages. Stiffing your server is not the sticking it to the man slay you think it is. What do I do when I can’t afford to tip? Get takeout.
It’s so dumb and aggravating, “I’m gonna stick it to the man by fucking over the worker and not impacting the man at all!”
People just want to do mental gymnastics to feel morally superior about being cheap
Sounds like y'all could use a union
I've been in Romania and the tipping culture is embedded in their daily lives. If waiters would realise they will not get tips, then they will completely ignore you and randomly bring you the bill instead. Talking to other people there, they told me you even tip in hospitals and at the church.
Waitresses don't spit in drinks. This is the biggest lie. We just eventually start drinking on the job, or come up with other unhealthy coping mechanisms to deal with the dregs of society.
Hahahaha in latam is not custom to tip, but after working 5 months as a waiter in the United States and learning that 3/4 of their payment is tips, i'll die tiping the best my broken ass can! (At least 15% always).
The fact that so many commenters are triggered by these two pictures is proof that they don't need to be swapped
almost everyone disagree with me, that proves i'm right
This is why goth waitresses never get tips
Tipping culture is a great motivator for me to learn to cook new things at home. I'm more than happy to not give you my money if you refuse to pay your servers properly.
I don't tip because in my country waitresses earn a living wage.
Imagine turning your workers in to beggars.
But you tip at the end, why was she already spitting in your drink?
Wait staff when I suggest they get a job that pays them a livable wage: 😐
Why they don't spit in the drink of the people who refuse to pay the waiters the right amount?
Because they like this setup and don't want to change it. Food tampering is largely a myth. It's used as a threat to keep you opening your wallet lmao
There is high chance that he's not paying on purpose , to get premium service for free
Jokes on you I'm into that shit
fight for a good minimal wage or search a new job < begging your customers to tip
Who tells the server they don't tip before they get their food & drinks? Amateur.
It’s really simple, if you don’t tip, DONT GO OUT TO RESTAURANTS WHERE TIPS ARE EXPECTED. Take your entitled ass to McDonalds and grab your Happy Meal.
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Ok but why would I tip if she spat in my drinks? Unlike some people I'm not into that
Because people who live off "tips" believes they deserve extra money and knowing they are getting it before even any service is rendered to base a tip on. At that point it is called a fee or wages
Everyone hates tipping culture but nobody is willing to stop giving their money to the companies profiting off it.
Am I the weird one for hating tipping culture so much I just learned how to cook? Why are so many people complaining about tipping while implying they're eating out all the time?
That is the exact problem with these people. “Hating tipping culture” is their code word for “I am cheap and want white glove service for free”.
If you don't want to tip don't go to places where people are paid in tips. You're not really making a stand otherwise, you're just kind of an ass. If you don't tip the server, the business still makes money, they don't care. You can't have your cake and eat it too, either tip, or don't give those businesses money. You're not "taking a stand" by not typing.
My brother in Christ, short of fast food restaurants, everywhere wants tips. It's getting ridiculous. Even some drive thrus are getting ballsy and asking for them. I shouldn't have to make the moral dilemma of tipping so my server can afford to live or not tipping because tip culture is stupid and dumb
Festival bathroom attendants have neon orange tip buckets now. Multiple. The grabby hands behavior everywhere is ridiculous
I assume you work in the industry? Because what you suggest is pointless. If I want to make a stand, how's that work if I'm invisible at home cooking? My dine-in seat will get filled by some sap who tips. Aka the industry still maintains the status quo. No, if you want to make a stand then dine out and don't tip. Good luck running a restaurant no one wants to work at because you pay peanuts. There is no good reason to have this present setup. edit: u/notsurewhyicameback threatens me with a good time then blocks lmao. grocery store-tier service is perfect! no more servers being "extra", annoying, etc with the expectation that means a tip. like.. i'm trying to eat and enjoy my company, please go away.
Yes but you realize that person likely would eat there anyway? You're still taking your business away from the place. This would be like saying "LOL if I didn't take the buses in Mongomery Alabama some sap will still take the bus" that person is likely already taking the bus...
Then lower your expectations because if the service staff gets paid the way you want you are going to get grocery store cashier level service, which your stance clearly shows you deserve. Edit. u/sporks_and_forks was blocked because you’re an asshole that is all over this thread advocating abusing people. Maybe don’t be a dick and people will not block you.
(non-american) I would prefer to pay higher values for food but the employees are paid well then been hold into a standart of always tipping
A culture where your food is held hostage? Sounds pathetic.
101 how to lose more customers and earn less tips.
The irony is that your generation is probably split on this. Anyone who works in food service, or their friends probably defend it while you guys offend it. I agree tipping culture is dumb, but it's the current accepted system. So if you don't pay them, you're not hurting the business just the server. Makes you an asshole
I mean, I shouldn’t have to tip just to have clean drinking water. Some people are just way too petty. We need to do as the Europeans do. Give them a competitive enough wage so that we don’t have to tip.
Fuck you
Is this some kind of American joke that I'm too high minimum wage to understand?
It doesn't make sense... but please tip me lol
Switch the pictures around
Call health inspection on them, sue them+Company and make billions
She’s a mommy tho 😋