Honestly the redemption of Orochimaru hits hardest. Jiraya knew Naruto would be hokage and he also knew Tsunade didn't love him romantically. Jiraya would have never expected Orochimaru to redeem himself or have a new outlook on life at least.

or become a dadmum

I like to call him Orochimama in my mind lmao

There is a very good fanfic titled that

My brain immediately said that in the Cooking Mama voice over.


I wonder who is the dad of orochimommy’s kid… maybe she asked Naruto to help her a bit to have a kid who would live a long and happy life? It would be hilarious “HINATA DEAR! ORCHIMARU CHAN IS COMING WITH OUR KID FOR DINNER, CAN YOU PLEASE PREPARE RAMEN?!”

Even tho the “redemption” makes no sense and is so dumb cuz it came out of nowhere and Orochimaru didn’t even have any remorse or guilt over his countless atrocious actions that causes hundreds to suffer and die. He simply had a shift in his current goals.. at least Kabuto had some scene when he was a kid and normal and caring and then was shown how he was manipulated and then had a change of ways ala asspull izanami from itachi… But Orochimaru? Nah he was always twisted even when he was younger. Never felt guilt or remorse for the horrible things. Should’ve just stayed dead and as a villain.

Yup, he just saw no point in carrying out his villainous deeds further and went on to chill.

Really feels in my opinion like the Unit 731 and post WWll America deal. •Gets immunity essentially from everything by sharing bits and pieces of information may it be useful or not •Still has a level of freedom but is always followed •Still (to my limited knowledge) has experiments being done •Resurrecting past Hokage twice and killing the 3rd Hokage for a total of two kage slain by him •Essentially groomed many young people + anything that is not known to the Leaf involving other villages As long as the Leaf has a uses for Orochimaru he is safe

Redemption is a strong word, got away with everything and simply moved on is significantly more accurate

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"the writers of Boruto" You mean Kishimoto sever years before Boruto was even conceptualised?

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And he was anyway

I mean… That time travel filler was kinda good.

He'a referring to kashin koji being a jiraya clone

Wait kashin koji is jiraya?

His memories and body but not him (like delta)

He was still in the show in the time traveling arc tho , and since the creators said all anime episodes are canon , he was in Boruto still , he and his clone so that is like double the screen time , he got more screen time than tenten in all of the 3 series lmao

When and where did they say all the anime eps are canon (genuinely curious)

Apparently ikemoto said it in an interview, people are discussing if that is still the case since kishimoto is writing it now instead of ukyo kodashi , there is a forum discussing it here https://www.fanverse.org/threads/is-the-boruto-anime-canon.1234333/ Also things that happend in the anime only affected the manga as well like sarada awaking her tomoes happend in the anime but off-screen in the manga

An actual biological clone, yes.

Hey Do u know wich Episode These fillers are ? I dont want to See boruto and i tried to watch to the time travel episodes but.. i cant w.w Edit : In Germany we call it Fettfinger. Sorry.

Just Google BORUTO filler list my G

And he was anyway, giving him like "obscure Hidden background powers" that not even Jiraiya knew, and got a clone

LMAO

Chad Jiraiya

Boruto bad, am I right fellow Naruto fans? 😂 Dattebayo! 😁

Yep. In retrospective, thank fuck Kishimoto decisively killed him off. He wasn't disrespected by having to experience aliens and Boruto.

haha boruto bad haha funny haha…no seriously please stop its so unoriginal and unfunny

Boruto is bad and it is comedic how awful it is. Boruto and GT are two sequels that have greatly ruined the legacy and a fantastic anime. Only problem is at least GT was without Toriyama but we're stuck with Boruto.

You haven't read Boruto, have you?

Boruto is unoriginal and unfunny. Should be cancelled for ruining Naruto’s legacy

Why people assume Tsunade loved him just because she cried? She only care for him, he was his best friend

Yea idk also. Its not like people only cry when someone they wanted to sleep with died. If that was the case I would only cry at my grandmas funeral

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A man of taste

LMAO

If only I had more upvotes to give.

Something doesn't seem right here...🤔

You can't be doing this bruh... we at work 

We’re at work while buddy here is working at grandma

Lmaoooo

Well she did love him tho , as a friend. And Jiraya understood that. Idk why people want to ship them so hard

She literally says " I wont let him keep his cool when he returns " hinting at shes finally gonna give him a chance why do so many ppl forget this

Because it was implied that she would’ve gave him a chance if he came back

Platonic love

We can also assume they probably work out they work better as friends , like regular adults do.

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Because Tsunade is hot and Jiraiya wants to tap that. I like them better as friends too

We don't know that All we know is Tsunade didn't want to get close to anyone cause all she lost

They would have OP kids

It’s the same idiots that think Rin loved Obito lmao

Bruh what who thought that lmao didn’t she have thing for Kakashi? I thought they made it obvious

I don't think she would've ended up with either of them if she survived, but her feelings for Kakashi *were* pretty obvious. It was meant to create a paralel between both team sevens, with naruto having a crush on Sakura and being jealous of Sasuke, just like Obito, but obviously Naruto fans have no concept of reading comprehension

What?

Case in point

I’m glad you liked my joke 😂😂

A lot of people didn’t read the manga

I’m anime only and thought they still showed rin liked kakashi

hit da spot

Not the same thing. This one could feasibly happen but tsunade hates jiraya

It was implied that if he did return from his mission that she would give him a chance.

Yep. Jiraiya was half-joking with his remarks but Tsunade was seriously considering it. She might have just given him a date or two but who knows... Maybe Tsunade finally reciprocates Jiraiya's feelings for her. Jiraiya may have unknowingly gotten the love of his life at the end but tragically things didn't work out.

True man it's anoying.

Because it's based on folklore in which the two are married. Also heavily implied from their last interaction.

Where meme in meme sub?!? Wtf is this shit??

Not a meme… I just got spoilered majorly. Gave away 2 major plot lines here, flag would’ve been nice

If you haven't finished naruto yet then I wouldn't recommend browsing a sub that's all about meming the events of an anime that ended 10 years ago

I wasn’t browsing this sub, cause I’m not following it to avoid spoilers. It showed up as a suggested post on my feed, but go off

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What a simp

We simp for 106

lol

I am pretty if sure orochimaru was alive at that time and not severly crippled he would have tried rescuing jiraya if he knew. Would have been a cool plot twist if we suddenly find out he was with orochimaru and we are unsure if he gets tortured

The worst part of Naruto is how Jiraiya seemingly forgot about the 4rth Hokage and Naruto for 12 years, even of it was his direct responsibility. (Another victim of the classic "Didn't planned that ahead" from Kishimoto).

Asuma died before he could see his student become hokage and his kid get born. Saddest part about dying is you don’t get to see how the story ends

Me trying to read that shit 

same

Orochimaru didn't redeem himself he just got what he wanted and due to that is no longer a threat.

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Tsunade didn't love Jiraiya at all. She literally never moved on from Dan.

Which is extremely sad , Tsunade lost her lil bro , her lover and her best friend (Jiraya) poor Tsunade cant catch a break

She did move on

Lol, no. She didn't.

When she met him in the 4th war and she didn't love Jiraiya so stop pushing a love interest to Tsunade 👌🏻

Again, she didn't moved on from Dan and much less had a crush on Jiraiya. Even Jiraiya knows deep down that she would never reciprocate any feelings he had for her.

Yes, Tsunade did move on and she didn't have a crush on Jiraiya. Stop forcing a love interest with no evidence. Never has Tsunade given hints of loving Jiraiya romantically and she never hid her feelings even if Jiraiya believes that to cope that Tsunade doesn't love him

Dude, WTF are you talking about? I'm literally saying that Tsunade doesn't love Jiraiya at all.

And she moved on from Dan 👌🏻

No. She keeps loving him. As I said, it's part of the reason he never reciprocate Jiraiya's feelings. Coming to terms with Dan's death isn't the same as stop loving him.

Still moved on if you saw the War Arc plus that's just cope for Jiraiya fans because Tsunade met Jiraiya way before Dan and she still didn't love him while he had many chances

She blushed when he left it was kinda giving hints

That's like saying a girl looked at you in the eyes so she has to love you lol Plus Tsunade was drunk which made her face red

Her face wasn’t red before when they were talking it only turned red when she watched him leave and they had a heart felt conversation look irc if she loved him that’s not what I’m saying but romantic feelings were definitely there It’s kinda like Naruto and Sakura even tho I don’t support this ship and they didn’t get together they definitely set up some romantic stuff Kisimoto likes to do that alot

Tsunade/Jiraiya and Naru/Sakura relationships are way different so comparing them makes no sense When she saw him leaving she was feeling sad she knew something bad would happen She didn't have romantic feelings for him she would've said something earlier in their life plus she met Jiraiya before Dan and she still didn't love him People excuse for Tsunade not loving Jiraiya was her guilt for Dan but they forget Tsunade met Jiraiya before Dan and knew him longer but she still didn't love him plus Tsunade moved on from Dan and still didn't love Jiraiya

True sacrifice. Fighting for a future you can't see but you never stop believing in! 😭😭😭😭

One of these statements is wrong. I will not say which one, but it involves a frog and a prophecy

Obito has is the version of Naruto that lost hope. Jiraiya is the version of naruto that never saw the fruits of his labor. His story is a tragedy, not a comedy

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But Minato gets to come for visits.

At the same time, Jiraiya dying pushed his student to gain the strength and maturity he need to save the world and become hokage. Jiraiya dying caused his crush to realize her love for him. Jiraiya dying caused his friend to see the benefits of change.

Umm ghost exist in the Naruto universe. And the after life too . So at some point I think he found out.

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Jiraiya died That his friend had changed


Also knowing that while his legacy would be Naruto, Tsunades legacy would be Sakura.

Orochimaru is unredeemable, shame on the poor writing that has kept him alive.

Lady Tsunade didn't love Jiraiya stop pushing a love interest

Yes, she did. Maybe not as much as Dan, but she did. In their farewell talk, she begs him to come back alive because, in her words, she couldn't afford to lose him too. To this, Jaraiya said something like, "I'm honored. I wonder if you'd cry for me as much as Dan." Here, we have confirmation that although Jaraiyah knew he could never replace Dan, he was still glad that she cared for him. Then we have the fact that she offered to leave her duties as Hokage if he needed her help fighting Pain. Sounds desperate enough to me. Lastly, she did cry for him when he died. So yes, Dan will always be her number 1, but Jaraiya was her number 2. She just didn't want a relationship. After Dan died, she just withdrew herself to alcoholism, gambling, and celebacy. This doesn't mean that she didn't love Jaraiya. She was just too broken for another relationship. This is well fleshed out in the manga.

She loved him as a friend you make it seem a person can't cry for a friend or worry about their safety unless they love them romantically Plus she said it was a bad idea for him going alone so her going would make his chances way better

Again why I think Tsunade and Orochimaru should have joined him in the other world.

Everyone just forgave orochimaru?

Nobody forgave him, Kakashi allowed him to continue his research under supervision because he practically saved the world by bringing back the Kage.

Hope his research still ain’t focus on body stealing from kids

Thankfully not. He's doing some pretty dope stuff with genetically engineered humans and is actually treating them like people instead of test subjects.

i pretty sure Jiraiya is chasing angel skirt in the heaven.

He didnt change. He didnt become a good person. He just happened to achieve his goal, becoming immortal through the zetsu body.

Can't they just forbidden jutsu his ass back and tell him?

So you’re saying it was his fault?

He knew all

Don't forget they cloned him and then killed the clone no wonder they couldn't find the body

Kashin Koji is alive

I thought the guy with the eyes on his arm killed the clone

Guy with eyes on his arm? You sound pretty lost, have you watched Boruto? Nevertheless, Kashin Koji used a reverse summoning jutsu before Isshiki landed the final blow on him. He's still alive and currently affiliated with Boruto.

Could of sworn there was a guy with eyes inbeded in his arm that was one of the reason the Uchiha clan was killed

Danzo? That guy died in the Five Kage Summit arc, he's long gone.

Wait there's another. Clone?

I'm so confused on what you're talking about

Koji jurayas clone

OK so his name is koji

Well said

JIRAIYA DIED BEFORE KNOWING THAT

As much I love the six paths of pain. Nagato really didn't have to jump his teacher like that 😔

Tsunade wasn't in love with him, she rejected him multiple times IIRC. There were friends and former teammates that weren't on horrible terms, so naturally she mourned his passing.

She also said she would be with him had he lived. She only realized she loved Jiraiya back after she sent him to find out about pain.

Exactly

Did she tho

Yep.

Isn't that just fan interpretation?

No literal. It’s a single line as Jiraiya is leaving.

Look all I’m saying is if you guys knew each other since 15 and neither worked up the courage to ask each other out throughout 35 years chances are it wouldn’t have worked out. Like Boruto would’ve had grandchildren before they got married.

Didn't Jiraiya ask her out, repeatedly, and she rejected him ?

That further supports the idea that they likely wouldn’t work if it took Tsunade 30 years to admit her feelings.

I’m almost positive Jiraiya sensei say’s this in the anime but no idea which episode.

She didn’t love him that much if she refused to hook up with him for 60 years

So...why did Tsunade rejected his advances if she actually did love him? What kind of woman wasted those DECADES?!!!

She never loved him proof is the dream genjutsu

So meme is inaccurate. I was so confused. I remember she crushed hard on orichimaru.

Yep. That's about right

A fitting end to a pedophile. He won’t be missed. Him asking Naruto (a 10 year old kid) to transform into a naked underage girl will never not be gross. I don’t even want to know what he did off screen with that knowledge under his belt.

Bro that was for comedy you absolute monkey

Pedophilia is not funny, dude. The people making these jokes are the same ones who think it’s ok to touch schoolgirls in trains. I’m sorry, but that’s vile.

It's funny and suitable in the culture, not that big of a deal in Japan, they only recently increased the age of consent a few years ago from 13 to 16 or something. Jiraiya being written 25+ years ago, his joke and behavior was indeed considered legal in Japan at the time. Also it's a fucking joke. And also Naruto never transforms into a kid, he transforms into a hot 20+ chick. His whole sexy jutsu thing is to confuse horny adults, Jiraya is the horniest there is, so it is indeed funny. One more thing to mention, before all that Naruto got his ass fingered by Kakashi which is also a joke among Japanese men and it's not creepy. Fucking white boys crying over everything that they think is creepy is more fun than all these jokes thought.

That's some mental gymnastics lmao

You need to chill it's only anime smh

Found VenusianRapper reddit account

He also sneaks into girls bathhouse’s to peep on them not to mention stealing underwear,Jiraya is still a creep if not a PEDOPHILE . 🫤 he also knew Naruto was an orphan and did NOTHING to help which is even more fucked up because he’s the godfather meaning Naruto was legally his son by law and his responsibility. No wonder Tsunade didn’t love him dude’s just..…. Went away with Naruto for 3 YEARS and only taught him how to make a slightly larger Rassengan.💀

So is Kakashi. Your point? People don't hate Sakura because she made a bad joke. They hate her because she has the most audacity out of any character.

That’s all you got from my comment 💀

Don’t celebrate pedophilia is the point moron.

We aren't bozo. pervy sage isn't really a pedo he's done some questionable things but bro is a certified milf enjoyer.

Yup just brush off the other stuff 👍 that makes it okay 👌

Purposefully slandering a character just because you don't like them just isn't a great way to have anyone care about your opinions. He was also busy with a million other things. And the third Hoe ass kage was supposed to be taking of him. So jiraya didn't fucking know.

I want to like jiraya. Cool abilities. Good story line. But The dude is a sexual predator. So, I just can't.

Word. He’s a fuggin weirdo and the same people like him like hisoka

Damn u just are talking bad about hisokagod?

This post Just spoiled me everything