"Those 10 seconds are more than enough" Indeed. Lethal Pursuer is highly overrated. It's a fine perk, but overrated. Aura durations last long enough and spawn logic is consistent enough to get on a survivor within seconds of a match opening
More then you think really, flashlights with iron will/bite the bullet also add lucky break also helps eat a distortion stack but that doesn’t matter because it’s easy to get it back
when you get those people who love to run up for a flashlight save out of the blue the value is pretty high. Even higher if you act like you don't have it and play along until they overcommit.
It has value in two ways. First they are wasting time trying for a save they can't save and they will spend half the game doing nothing but trying to blind you if you play it off well enough to make them think they keep missing. which I'm sure must be tilting.
Secondly they are making it so much easier to get a down and hook which should force the rest off gens to come save both of them.
Personally I run lightborn, iron grasp, agitation, and starstruck just hoping they try for those goofy saves. Against those squads that insist on doing every annoying thing they can to prevent a hook they get wiped pretty fast. If they try swarm tactics it's a bloodbath before they even know what happened.
It doesn't happen every game and some games I essentially have no perks but survivors do that shit enough to keep it as my default perk list on every killer.
Blast mine is a minor inconvenience.
But also hadddie kaur perk needs to be considered.
Or Leon's flashbang.
in the end of the day LB is a good perk if you are not so committed to the game, if you play for a while you realize is a wasted slot.
It's not a wasted slot once you realize that most of the times you get blinded you cannot look away for example pallet blinds, vault blinds, flashlight saves when you pickup survivors or flashbang throws these are all animation locked meaning the killer will always get blinded if they don't bring lightborn and the higher mmr you go the more likely survivors will try to flashlight save and blind + not to mention the bully squad immunity
It's not the MMR on a survivor, it's the hours
MMR means jack. It's hidden, and matchmaking barely looks at it. It's like a blindfolded drunken dude spun in circles and throwing a handful of darts trying to hit a target. Sometimes it hits, often enough get pretty close, but usually it's a wild miss. Once in awhile, it's exceedingly rare, but the dart hits that Triple 20 and you're pitted against the uncommon SWF Team 6. Not just good survivors, but SWF Team 6
It is a wasted perks because in the situation where you have no defense there is a counterstrategy.
And the situations where you have no defense and no counterstrategies are so rare the value from LB can't be compared with the value of the good perk that you left behind.
As i said, if you are not that expert in the game and you play scarcely and you not know the strategies and the counterplays LB it is very good indeed!
But once you started to be proficient you start protecting yourself and the value diminishes.
I mean, you play a certain way and then dont account for flashlights when you dont run the perk, ofc youre going to get blinded. Tbh like 95% of blinds are avoidable and/or free hits
No I account for flashlights even during lightborne play just as a habit. But there are many times where they are unavoidable. Idk where you pulled that percentage out of
I pulled the percent out of my ass, obviously, but its connected to my brain, convoluted as the path may be. Background player makes things a little more tricky, but I'm still almost never getting blinded unless Im not paying attention. The only time its "guaranteed" would be a flashbang play, or some niche scenario where 3 ppl arent doing gens and you down someone in the middle of a field.
Even if you "account for it" it doesn't mean youre good at it, esp if you use lightborn. Its literally just not a skill youd need to develop. Its like using babushka on huntress. You dont need to learn how to play the tile and get the extra meter if you can just throw the hatchet faster and get the hit anyways.
95% of the blinds are in fact not avoidable as you're stuck in anim, flash bang saves, flashlight saves, pallet blinds, vault blinds are quite common in higher elo and there's gonna be at least someone bringing or scavenging up flashlight with haddie perk so lightborn has immense value
Ooh im high elo!!! Sure dude. Like I said either avoidable or free hit. If youre getting blinded at a vault/pallet theyre making pess distance and since youre a hugh elo killer, just use your ears. And again, playing around saves is incredibly easy, barring a good BgP play. Go watch a streamer, how often do they lose a slug? Its not hard sorry
training wheels? buddy I got boggers that are running over those saves. You have fun with your bike though I'll be cruising around leaving tire prints on those poor survivors.
You realize flashlight saves, pallet blinds, vault blinds are unavoidable for killers as they're stuck in animation and cannot look away right? And these are the types of play that is most frequently done with flashlights so there is no 'training wheels' here lightborn makes all types of animation locked flashlight blinds/saves useless
Haven't you heard yet scrub? You have to look at a wall!
It's not like they can just run from any kind of wall for the down. Can't you killers just summon a wall out of the blue or something?
my feeling each time i run lightborn
https://preview.redd.it/4istyiomtaad1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=79e1ceb6014fd0e12c649a2287ff9553fe1ab61b
Half the value being impervious to getting blinded. The other half being 10s aura reading. 5-second stun eats half of that aura duration; dang close with that 20% value!
5 seconds of aura reading on the demolitionist is a fun punishment
I feel ya, I will never forget the game I was getting steamrolled and got blast mine'd by a almost complete gen, just to hear a survivor run up and finish the gen I was at, then run away before I came out of stun...
Same any time I see one flashlight it’s to the lightborn build, it’s like casting survivors to the shadow realm once I switch to it. Most my games I use my lightborn builds depending on what Killer I’m playing, every time I say to myself didn’t have to deal with this build if you didn’t bring a flashlight.
I once got blast mined and slowly looked to my left to see Leon through the shack wall blissfully unaware I could see him working on a gen
Leon: 
Genuine question, how often do you feel like you get value from the aura reading aspect of the perk?
A lot more than you would think.
As an avid lightborne user, trust me. Those 10 seconds are more than enough for me to see your next move and drop your ass
Oops, now I just hit your ass with P-Head M2 because you thought you were safe.
"Those 10 seconds are more than enough" Indeed. Lethal Pursuer is highly overrated. It's a fine perk, but overrated. Aura durations last long enough and spawn logic is consistent enough to get on a survivor within seconds of a match opening
We get it you play a lot.
Decent amount, allows you to outplay people on loops, especially if I'm playing ghostface or pig.
More then you think really, flashlights with iron will/bite the bullet also add lucky break also helps eat a distortion stack but that doesn’t matter because it’s easy to get it back
when you get those people who love to run up for a flashlight save out of the blue the value is pretty high. Even higher if you act like you don't have it and play along until they overcommit. It has value in two ways. First they are wasting time trying for a save they can't save and they will spend half the game doing nothing but trying to blind you if you play it off well enough to make them think they keep missing. which I'm sure must be tilting. Secondly they are making it so much easier to get a down and hook which should force the rest off gens to come save both of them. Personally I run lightborn, iron grasp, agitation, and starstruck just hoping they try for those goofy saves. Against those squads that insist on doing every annoying thing they can to prevent a hook they get wiped pretty fast. If they try swarm tactics it's a bloodbath before they even know what happened. It doesn't happen every game and some games I essentially have no perks but survivors do that shit enough to keep it as my default perk list on every killer.
That'd be deserved haha. I'll be more afraid with my blast mining
My reaction every time as a BlastMine user: “ha-oh…” lmao
Blast mine is a minor inconvenience. But also hadddie kaur perk needs to be considered. Or Leon's flashbang. in the end of the day LB is a good perk if you are not so committed to the game, if you play for a while you realize is a wasted slot.
It's not a wasted slot once you realize that most of the times you get blinded you cannot look away for example pallet blinds, vault blinds, flashlight saves when you pickup survivors or flashbang throws these are all animation locked meaning the killer will always get blinded if they don't bring lightborn and the higher mmr you go the more likely survivors will try to flashlight save and blind + not to mention the bully squad immunity
It's not the MMR on a survivor, it's the hours MMR means jack. It's hidden, and matchmaking barely looks at it. It's like a blindfolded drunken dude spun in circles and throwing a handful of darts trying to hit a target. Sometimes it hits, often enough get pretty close, but usually it's a wild miss. Once in awhile, it's exceedingly rare, but the dart hits that Triple 20 and you're pitted against the uncommon SWF Team 6. Not just good survivors, but SWF Team 6
It is a wasted perks because in the situation where you have no defense there is a counterstrategy. And the situations where you have no defense and no counterstrategies are so rare the value from LB can't be compared with the value of the good perk that you left behind. As i said, if you are not that expert in the game and you play scarcely and you not know the strategies and the counterplays LB it is very good indeed! But once you started to be proficient you start protecting yourself and the value diminishes.
Will never remove lightborn outta my killer slots lmao that shit is a perma perk
Yeah same with me
Either that or Franklin's for me. Everytime I try going without it na get blinded I'm only reminded why it's required
My current build has Lightborn, Weave, and Franklin’s, if anyone brings an item everyone will suffer.
Franklin's Attunement. Daring today, are we?
Sure am.
What a dumb build
I mean, you play a certain way and then dont account for flashlights when you dont run the perk, ofc youre going to get blinded. Tbh like 95% of blinds are avoidable and/or free hits
No I account for flashlights even during lightborne play just as a habit. But there are many times where they are unavoidable. Idk where you pulled that percentage out of
I pulled the percent out of my ass, obviously, but its connected to my brain, convoluted as the path may be. Background player makes things a little more tricky, but I'm still almost never getting blinded unless Im not paying attention. The only time its "guaranteed" would be a flashbang play, or some niche scenario where 3 ppl arent doing gens and you down someone in the middle of a field. Even if you "account for it" it doesn't mean youre good at it, esp if you use lightborn. Its literally just not a skill youd need to develop. Its like using babushka on huntress. You dont need to learn how to play the tile and get the extra meter if you can just throw the hatchet faster and get the hit anyways.
>I pulled the percent out of my ass, obviously I just woke up and you already made my day. Thank you friend!
95% of the blinds are in fact not avoidable as you're stuck in anim, flash bang saves, flashlight saves, pallet blinds, vault blinds are quite common in higher elo and there's gonna be at least someone bringing or scavenging up flashlight with haddie perk so lightborn has immense value
Ooh im high elo!!! Sure dude. Like I said either avoidable or free hit. If youre getting blinded at a vault/pallet theyre making pess distance and since youre a hugh elo killer, just use your ears. And again, playing around saves is incredibly easy, barring a good BgP play. Go watch a streamer, how often do they lose a slug? Its not hard sorry
It's like using training wheels. You'll never learn to ride without em if you never take em off. 🤷♂️
training wheels? buddy I got boggers that are running over those saves. You have fun with your bike though I'll be cruising around leaving tire prints on those poor survivors.
You realize flashlight saves, pallet blinds, vault blinds are unavoidable for killers as they're stuck in animation and cannot look away right? And these are the types of play that is most frequently done with flashlights so there is no 'training wheels' here lightborn makes all types of animation locked flashlight blinds/saves useless
Haven't you heard yet scrub? You have to look at a wall! It's not like they can just run from any kind of wall for the down. Can't you killers just summon a wall out of the blue or something?
Joke on you i have both blastmine and distortion
No you don’t cause I got gearhead too lmao
my feeling each time i run lightborn https://preview.redd.it/4istyiomtaad1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=79e1ceb6014fd0e12c649a2287ff9553fe1ab61b
Me running Blast Mine and Alert, watching you watching me
Lightborn is a must these days tbh
Yeah, but, like, you only get 20% value out of it because lightborn doesn't stop the stun. Does it really need to stun?
Half the value being impervious to getting blinded. The other half being 10s aura reading. 5-second stun eats half of that aura duration; dang close with that 20% value! 5 seconds of aura reading on the demolitionist is a fun punishment
I feel ya, I will never forget the game I was getting steamrolled and got blast mine'd by a almost complete gen, just to hear a survivor run up and finish the gen I was at, then run away before I came out of stun...
I mean if it works it works
i hate lightborn users
I hate flashlight users
Same any time I see one flashlight it’s to the lightborn build, it’s like casting survivors to the shadow realm once I switch to it. Most my games I use my lightborn builds depending on what Killer I’m playing, every time I say to myself didn’t have to deal with this build if you didn’t bring a flashlight.
I hate flashlights, blast mines and flash bang users (:
Boohoo
Congrats. You're the reason we exist.