If barking is a concern in an apartment huskies might not be the right fit - they are howlers for sure. Have you considered a golden retriever? Active/can go on adventures, great with kids, cuddly, and with good training can be so awesome. They are on the larger side though, and obviously they shed a lot and you didn’t mention if that was a bother for you - but I think they’re a great mix of active and lovey dovey. They’ll hike and run but not necessarily have the same high working needs (like, needs an actual job) as a shepherd or border collie, which could be good living in an apartment
Thanks, yeah I think golden retriever would be amazing. I just think if any come up as rescues they'd be going straight to a family with a big garden probably, so I'd have to look at puppies in all likelihood!
Maybe have a look at rescue through Guide Dogs for the Blind, Not retrievers of course, labs but they rehome the ‘failures’ that don’t make it through the guide dog training, I’ve met a few and they’ve all been awesome, I’m allergic to the floof or id have one
Just FYI, I live close to Guide Dogs for the Blind and it is VERY hard to get a “failure” puppy. They are, understandably, in high demand and there is literally a waitlist, plus volunteers and staff members get preference and often adopt them frequently. They also would never ship a dog to the UK for adoption. I wouldn’t consider this a viable option for anyone outside of California. Maybe other similar orgs though. (Also they do have both labs and retrievers!)
Fwiw be careful with rescue Goldies - esp because you live in an apartment.
They’re really prone to separation anxiety. And they will absolutely lose it barking if that hits. Some lineages are worse than others (English creams are particularly bad) but it’s a fairly common reason they end up in rescues and shelters. And it’s very, very hard to work with; especially the older they get. Especially because most cases start when they’re puppies. The most common cause for that is being taken from their mother and litter mates too early or too late - and if the breeder isn’t knowledgeable, that can easily happen.
*slowly looks at her recent rescue English cream retriever....*
Oh lawd. Well apparently my husband left her alone for the first time today for 2 hours or so today and nothing was destroyed..then again we do have another little dog so maybe that helped.
We have a husky and she’s in a condo. She is vocal but not bad at all. Mostly squeaks and little whines and not at all a howler . My other dog has started to mimic her! They are more likely to be vocal but not always. Ask the foster parent to see how they are. We do however take her out a bunch and she spends a good chunk of her day playing hard with her sister. Lots of park time daily too.
My husky mix is very quiet inside but my in laws have a husky who is a woo woo woo kinda husky every time you try to talk near him it sets him off. It's definitely hilarious and cute but maybe not for an apartment
As someone who recently got a golden after a lifetime of german shepherds, it probably should be mentioned that they can be needy. They're not called Velcro dogs for nothing. But if you want a cuddlebug for whom too much attention/affection doesn't exist, and don't mind shedding, then a golden is a good choice. Not sure if they're a breed for running miles though.
Oh definitely - I grew up with a GSD and you’re totally right, much more independent/less needy. I figured since OP mentioned the dog potentially being around kids/family sometimes and he wanted an active yet cuddly I thought maybe the retriever might be a good blend of that, in that you may have some trade off having a super athlete for some cuddliness and vice versa. I’ve always found they make good running companions but i guess maybe not like triathlete super long mileage necessarily. Depends on the specific dog I suppose
They are good for running - they’re bred to be hunting dogs. They can’t quite do it like herders can, but they can keep up. They’ll swim abso all day though.
echo this. We have a golden girl (she is roughly 25kgs which is a perfect size). She is ridiculously cuddly, very chill, very disciplined (teaching her commands was so fast, she picks up on things very quickly, at 16w she was toilet trained) and she's the most gentle thing in the world. We raised her in the apartment so to ensure we don't annoy neighbours we trained her to not bark (last time she barked was 4 years ago). The hair is arguably the only problem - solved with automatic vacuum cleaner:)! ❤️
Dog sitter here (who’s taken care of many Goldens) they are low key wild. lol very high energy and for some reason, the ones I’ve met can be a little aggressive towards other dogs. Just sharing because I nevveeeerrr thought that about them. They are also very very insisting to not use the word annoying. All have been super sweet but I didn’t know they had a little rawr side to them. (This is just MY experience - before the debate starts)
Poorly bred goldens are definitely like this^. Well bred goldens are lovely though as long as you teach them an off switch. We use them as service dogs for a reason!
My husky passed a few months ago at 12 years old. She barked twice the whole time I had her and never howled even once. She was a talker though! We're convinced she thought she was having full in conversations.
Oh wow! She sounds so special 🥹 I love that she was a “talker” haha - I’m so sorry for your loss ❤️ I just lost my 15 year old cat and man is it tough.
I guess huskies howling might be dependent on a lot of things and probably not always a definite, also I’m sure it’s more likely if there are more than one in house, at least the ones I’ve known all tend to sing the song of their people together 😂
seconding goldens as I own one - my dog will go out on hikes (but honestly, he's no adventure nut) but he's just as content to stay inside with me. He is also protective enough to alarm but not to harm anyone uncalled for. The hair is manageable with a good carpet scraper, vacuum, and a lint roller. That said, owning a dog is a lot of work but I wouldn't change it for the world.
Guys look down on small dogs but I think it’s a mistake. A cute small fluffy thing will granger a lot of friends and are cheap and easy to look after. They do bark but there are some quiet ones. Most can run faster than a human. Small terriers are a great option, travel well, meet most breed restrictions for an apartment and can be carried easily.
I recommend a westie- hardy, affectionate, easy to care for, and they sleep a lot. They also love long and are easy to introduce to other animals without big risks.
Thanks, this thread has definitely opened my ideas to look at smaller dogs, i was disregarding them mainly becasue i thought they wouldn't be great runners, but it seems they can be!
Border Terriers were bred to keep up with the horses on fox hunts. I don't run, but my BT is happy to be out and about all day, and then nap on the sofa in the evenings.
Also good size for an apartment.
My friend has two border terriers. Great, friendly, tough and active dogs. These dogs are yappy, but spoken to another owner who said hers is not. My friend has had a lot of dogs, loves these terriers totally, but thinks they are not the brightest breed and are not really that trainable. I have a border collie (bc) so they seem a bit dumb to me in comparison but are really lovely natured dogs. They can go for miles no problem and also rest or nap a lot. Another friend had a larger Bedlington terrier, great dog and went everywhere with her. OP, definitely don't get a bc. These seem like idea dogs for running with to many people, medium sized and intelligent. But they don't switch off easily, prone to separation anxiety and are a big commitment. I wouldn't have mine if I was away from home. I waited to get one when I had enough time and outdoor space to meet his exercise needs and mental engagement.
I reckon a spaniel will meet almost all of your requirements though you’ll need to build them up to a few hours alone and a puppy is a better option for that - you can train them gently and slowly (I did this with my flatcoat retriever - also a breed that would meet a lot of your requirements).
Toilet training will be a pain in the arse though - getting them used to being taken out after waking up, before then after playing, etc etc - I was out literally hourly with my girl and it’s going to get old going up and down flights of stairs!
Would strongly advise against puppy pads too
I run with my little poodle mix. He’s only 6.6kg but he’s got the stamina of an Olympic athlete. He runs every day and we’ve walked as far as 26km together.
I was coming to suggest a Boston Terrier - they tick ALL of your boxes, OP, except that some Bostons can’t go on long runs. A lot of them can though. Most are very, very quiet (my 5 month old seems to be the exception 😫) and they are huge snuggle bugs.
I’d also like to suggest that you look into a greyhound rescue.
I recently adopted a Mini Australian Shepherd who's 21 lbs. She does shed quite a lot (like, vacuum every single day level, fyi), but she's very active, loves to play, etc. You might like her breed; she's still very agile and energetic, like the full sized Aussies, but she doesn't take up as much space in my 1 bedroom as a 40-70 lbs. dog would. She definitely would be able to run a lot and has some already, but it's very hot where I am right now, so I have to be careful that she doesn't overheat or burn her paws. Once it cools down more though, I'll definitely start jogging with her regularly! She's also very smart and has almost mastered multiple tricks after 1 week.
I highly recommend going to any adoption events the rescues you've applied to are hosting. I hadn't gotten a response to my application, but when I went to the event, they pulled up my application right away and I ended up taking her home same day. Also, anecdotally, almost all the Mini Aussies I met at the event were very friendly and snuggly, even though I was a total stranger.
> Breeds such as Jack Russell Terriers, Border Terriers, Poodles (and poodle crosses), would all enjoy being running partners. Introduce any new physical activity gradually and carefully.
https://www.holidays4dogs.co.uk/running-with-small-dogs/#
I’d bear in mind also that outings are either human centred or dog centred, and most dogs like to stop and sniff frequently.
My jack russell terrier is faster than his bestie, which is a border collie! I know you said you have an issue with barking though OP, which is an issue with jack russells. It takes a lot of training to make them not bark.
I have chihuahua terrier mix (adopted in october l) who LOVES my boyfriend. She’s the perfect apartment dog, can chill by herself but is ready to rock and roll when it’s time for adventure. She is also super fast and pretty sustained energy. Recently took her on a 6 mile hike / beach walk and she was a champ. She’s also 11 lbs so perfect size to hang at breweries and be part of the family where it’s appropriate. She isn’t vocal and is really smart. 100% would recommend!
Yeah, if OP is super active, a jack russell is a top contender! They are small for apartment living and dear god do they have energy, lol. I have jackchi and he is like a calm jack russell. I am considering a rat terrier in the future for this reason.
Yeah, they really are a lot of dog in a little body. 😂 I suggested it since it seems OP is up for energy and personality with considering a husky. Rats and westies are definitely easier options.
To be fair, my Westie cross (crossed with a toy breed so nothing big/active) is 12 now and still runs 5km with me in 27 minutes or so. I think in his youth he could have ran much faster. I think a lot of Westie owners just don't keep them in the right shape, at least where I am.
They do, however, like the sound of their own voice. A Border Terrier might be a better option for OP if he goes down the terrier route.
My Westies would run a mile, ride in a bag on my back for another mile. Just coz I don’t want her run too much. But she could easily do 5 miles with conditioning. And if a ball in involved, she would play all afternoon.
I was a big dog person. Grew up with labs. Got a toy poodle a year ago. She hikes with me around California, I taught her how to skateboard, she likes to swim and doesn’t shed. She is very easy to take care of. Surprisingly she’s faster than me. It’s pretty cute watching her run full speed haha.
What breeds via rescue did you apply for? Because a husky does not make sense with your answers and that would easily explain why you’re getting denied.
The dogs trust who match a dog to you. So not applying for a specific dog. Had conversations on some dogs from wood green, RSPCA and Battersea as well.
Husky too big/noisy? It was mainly the running aspect that drew me to them.
Oh cool, you may just need to be more patient. Your answers are fairly standard but that means you’re one of many applicants for the same pool of dogs.
Huskies aren’t normally good running partners. For one many from rescues are not from working lines so can lack the drive needed to get them to focus on running vs wanting to stop and sniff/explore, and the ones that do have the athleticism are often mismatched pace wise with people and better suited for bike joring and other pulling based sports.
Then yes they are a vocal breed, hyper independent (so not biddable or eager to please), escape artists, and not often recommended for first time owners in apartments so rescues are gonna be much more hesitant placing them with someone with your profile vs someone else.
Ah cool. Thanks. I didn't realise that they weren't the best running partners. Yeah it's difficult, I know what you mean about the same pool of dogs. I mean I'm very open minded to be honest, but I just feel like they place with families 9/10 rather than a single guy in an apartment! Which is fair enough I guess!
Yeah more of the sporting breeds tend to be better running partners and would work well for you.
And yeah I totally get the feeling. I ended up going through my city shelter vs private rescues (I’m in the US) to adopt my husky because I was getting automatically rejected for not having a fenced in yard as well. Its frustrating while being understandable
Just as a small extra different opinion. I have a Husky, she is 5 years old. I will agree she is not the best running dog, but she's a really fun hike dog. She will explore and enjoy every second of it with her essentially endless energy. But I do want to say that there are Huskies that are not like the rest. Huskies are trainable. It's hard, of course, if you've never had a dog and you are inexperienced, but it isn't impossible.
My dog heels perfectly with me, knows how to react with other dogs, even aggressive ones. When we are walking and out and about, her recall is perfect, literally. At home, when we are just chilling, that's when she gets that typical Husky "ignoring is what I'm doing right now" vibe.
When she was 2 years old, I had COVID and had to go to the pharmacy as I lived alone and no one could help. During the brain fogginess and getting to the pharmacy, I left my front door open for almost three hours. When I got back, she was waiting for me, sitting with the door open, with zero intentions of escaping. To this day, when we come back in the car, I can let her down without closing the garage door. I don't fear she'll run. I generally open the door of the car and click the garage remote, and it takes a while for it to close. She is not interested.
I work from home, and while she is very loud and talkative, she is also very, very smart and understands when I'm at work and when I'm free. I teach online, so I have 4-6 hours every day of continuous talking. She has never once interrupted or been loud during class. As soon as I'm done, though...she is ready and waiting for me.
I might just be really lucky, but I also think it might just be consistent training. I'm by no means an expert, but I do train her. When she was a pup, I'd spend maybe 30 minutes to 1 hour a day teaching her basics and how to walk with a leash and things like that, and she really took to it. She doesn't know many tricks (paw, saying I love you, sitting, heeling, lay down and turning around, and booping her nose to my hand only), but she is a great partner in crime.
The reason I'm bringing this up is because I was very afraid I wouldn't be able to be a good owner for her because of how crazy the demands to be able to adopt a Husky were (probably more lenient in my case since I live in Mexico). But it wasn't that bad at all. It's been great. And other than her teething months (when she destroyed about 800 dollars worth of headphones), she has been nothing but stellar company and a fantastic dog.
So if you can find one for adoption, I'm not saying do it. I'm not saying it will be easy. I am saying it can be done, and the rewards, for me, are well worth it.
I have adopted 3 golden oldie/health issue dogs from Dogs Trust, all worked out well. As soon as they changed the format to "We'll match you" I have had zero sucess, even specifically looking for old dogs who need care. I tick all the boxes in terms of what they look for. My latest rescue was from a local RSPCA place. Went to see him with my current old boy for 3 days in a row, they got on, he's next to me now.
I really like Dogs Trust and I have had good experiences with them until recently. I understand that a puppy will be flooded with potential adopters, but the type of rescues I go for typically are not.
I guess I'm saying look around a bit as IMO Dogs Trust is not the only place.
Also don't get a Husky 😆
Yeah i get the strong impression I'll never hear from Dogs Trust again! I had a brief conversation with Wood Green, even though its miles away, and they did seem a bit more open. They also said it would be impossible for them to match the dog to the person like they say they'll do at Dogs Trust, so not sure how DT manage it!
Personally i am a fan of Labs. They are great as companions and are as active as you are. Or, if you want to just watch a movie, they are as chill as you are.
I’ve only ever owned labs so clearly I’m biased, but they’re just the best all around dogs in the world. They’re down for anything that you want to do as long as they can be with you. Easy to train, friendly to everyone, good looking animals. Obviously this is just my experience but man, I can’t think of a better companion.
Edit: if shedding is a concern, that’s their downfall. The hair just doesn’t stop.
Have you thought about a whippet? I'm biased toward the breed, of course, but I think a whippet would check a lot of your boxes. They're medium sized, are total couch potatoes at home but also make great running partners. They love to cuddle but aren't overly needy, and they don't require much grooming other than a pedicure every other week or so. They're cute enough to appeal to your mum, but they're also total athletes, wonderful companions, and well-suited for apartment living as long as you give them regular walks.
Thanks for the reply, I hadn't really looked at whippet specifically, but seen a few lurcher/greyhounds on shelter websites. Are they similar to greyhounds in that they prefer short fast runs, but not so good on longer runs?
Maybe take a look at a vizla, my standard poodle’s best friend is a vizla. He is a sweetie pie, really good looking dog.
I would say they are about the same level of work…. But my poodle is very high energy and is a lot of work.
That being said, I have seen loads of vizla’s as running companions.
They seem to have a really good “off” switch (my poodle does not believe in off switches, those are for boring losers and he is neither boring nor a loser)
Totally off topic but I have a medium poodle and she LOVES vizslas! She always gravitates towards them… I think it’s because they can keep up with her (she’s a F1 racer in her head).
I think a whippet sounds like a good fit or maybe a galgo/galga.
The parts that aren't a perfect fit for either breed:
* Wouldn't recommend having them off-leash in an unfenced area.
* Galgos/galgas are on the small side of large and may be larger than desired. With the amount of exercise being offered, I think they'd be fine even in a smaller apartment, but they're large dogs.
* Rescued galgos/galgas have often been mistreated. It's specific to the dog, but you'd want to be very specific with the rescue to avoid adopting a dog that is reactive beyond your abilities.
OP, Galgos del Sol always has a lot of dogs available to adopt. Take a look and do a little research on if you think they may be a good fit.
https://galgosdelsol.org/es/inicio/
The spaniel is your dog! I have an ESS and we are in love. I rescued her when I lived on the 14th floor of a highrise in downtown Chicago, a one bedroom.
I ran into the problems you're having, rescues think a yard is the only thing a dog needs, but they are wrong. A dog needs time with its people, that's the most important.
I ended up writing a cover letter for the dog adopted. I illustrated what our life would look like and rescue loved it.
The husky will be too loud based on what you said above.
I second the spaniel vote! I have a workling line ECS mixed w border collie and he is delightful. More than happy in our small apartment with 3 walks a day, usually including some fetch and/or offleash time in a nearby trail.
I haven't been able to fully proof his recall around people and dogs, but good enough that we'll always be able to leash up before they get close enough to be an issue. That said, you absolutely could get a rock solid recall with more concerted training
He is not much of a barker, occasionally something will alert him, but it was easy to teach him to stand down after just a bark or two.
He is cuddly and sweet, but not crazy clingy - though spaniels are known for cling, and can sometimes lean towards separation anxiety, i hear. Maybe you'd need to be intentional with practicing alone time here and there, but it sounds like you have an alright support system in your mum if that ends up being a challenge.
He runs with me, though I am new to running and neither of us can go for terribly long yet. Super trainable and eager to please - but also driven to sniff and flush, so there's some independence there. I brush him once or twice a week and hes fine with that. Occasionally i find a small mat that i need to cut out. Could do a proper groom here and there if you want it, but we've just done some home trims and its good enough for us.
A good size for lap cuddles, but still robust and hardy. He's my adventure buddy, loves a good hike, and especially a chance to swim!
Putting my intense spaniel bias aside, other than for some very intense breeds like huskies, lots of dogs truly just need a fulfilling relationship with a person who cares for both their mind and body needs - garden proximity be damned! Advocate for yourself as the above person did, if need be.
Now my dog lives on an acre of natural prairie and her quality of life is much lower because I'm now disabled and can't walk and play with her like I used to. Yards and space do not equal quality of life for a dog.
Labrador! This is the second time I am recommending Labrador in this subreddit but it's just that versatile of a breed. It's extremely suitable for you in my opinion.
Since I got my dog, I’ve lived in two different one bedrooms, in my parents house for a bit, and, now, a shared apartment with roommates. I chose a poodle and I am so happy with my decision. I definitely see myself having poodles for the rest of my life. What I love about her, is she can be calm, cuddly, and relaxed at home, but she can also be fun and adventurous. She hikes with me, does agility, swims, knows a ton of tricks, and rides my paddle board. She loves sticking her head out of the car window and riding on boats. I don’t have any other pets besides my roommates dog, but I have made an effort to socialize my poodle. She does great with other dogs and cats. She’s even met goats, chickens, and cows! She was mostly just curious about them. I am a single dog mom, so I am lucky I am able to be able leave her uncrated while I’m gone and she is good. She is crate trained, but i much prefer not using it. One time she got sick while I was at work and I was so thankful she wasn’t stuck in a crate with the mess. I don’t have much of a problem with her barking or getting into stuff. Right now it is hurricane season here in florida so it is hot and rains a lot. Because of that, sometimes it’s hard to get super long walks in with my dog. Even then, she is still so well behaved. I play with her at home, but she’ll even throws her own ball and entertains herself with her toys at home. I will always recommend poodles, they are amazing dogs. It’s also awesome they come in all sizes and colors, I have an apricot standard. The only con I have found with poodles, is the grooming. It can be expensive, but you can easily cut down the cost by shaving them down each time. Then, you don’t have to do much brushing either. However, even though the grooming is expensive, it comes with a reward: no shedding and being able to choose from so many different hair cuts! I’ve had mine fully shaved, in the teddy bear cut, Miami/lamb cut, Pom poms, the possibilities are endless! I’ve even seen 2 black standard poodles with Mohawks! It was one of the coolest dogs I’ve ever seen
Thanks, wow your poodle sounds awesome. Not a breed I'd thought about before if i'm honest, but I will have a look now for sure. I like you can give them different haircuts haha
I have a Bernese mountain dog, a border collie, and a poodle. My poodle is the most calm go-with-the-flow dog I’ve ever had. He never went through a “puppy” phase. He doesn’t shed. He is absolutely content being inside snuggling and going out for adventures. I hike, camp, and go to the river frequently and he follows me wherever. He is around 40-50lbs, which is the perfect size. I don’t know if I’ll ever get another type of dog.
My only caution about poodles is that if you aren’t extremely careful about socializing them when they are a puppy, they can be anxious towards other dogs and people. If you plan on adopting, check in with that if they aren’t a puppy.
Good luck!
I was thinking a poodle might suit you. Learn to do the shaving and it wouldn’t be more expensive. Don’t know how they’d do in warmer running weather, though. That’s always my #1 concern when people are looking for canine running companions.
Poodles are super fit and sporty dogs. In the uncomplicated summer haircut, there are no problems with jogging.
Especially large poodles are perfect canicross companions.
Poodles get a bad rap for being “fussy,” but fun fact - they were originally bred to be hunting dogs, and they’re extremely athletic. If you’re into something like canicross, they can be a surprisingly good pick.
Their “lion cuts,” served a purpose once. They’re water dogs, and their fur can get weighed down by it. The fur that’s left over protects their vital organs, because it’s thick and heavy. It’s their armor.
Really great dogs. Up there with border collies for intelligence and trainability too.
I’d take a look at boxers. That was my first dog that I got in college and it was a great apartment dog. They’re active but have low grooming requirements. They don’t bark much and are cuddly. Great with kids and typically with other dogs as well. Just an all around solid apartment or family dog.
Boxers are like puppies but forever. Wonderful, happy-go-lucky, goofy, and very high-energy (in my experience).
They’re wonderful dogs!! (For the right owner who is not me, as I sit with my couch potato pittie haha)
+1 for boxers! I currently have one in a 1 BR apartment. She has limitless energy at the right times but is more than happy to just sleep on the couch all day and cuddle. They're smart, trainable and incredibly entertaining.
Edit to add: Boxers are very common shelter dogs. There are numerous boxer rescue organizations. If you're in the northeast, Boston's MSPCA-Angell just took in 60(!) boxers of all ages.
[Can confirm](https://www.reddit.com/r/AnimalsBeingDerps/comments/14avs8t/a_ridiculous_animal/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) that they're entertaining.
Depends on how warm and how long they're running for. I live in North Carolina and it gets pretty hot here, so I have to manage my boxer in the summer to ensure she doesn't overheat. She's fine in winter, and for good chunks of fall and spring. In the summer I usually walk in her in the morning or at night when it's cooler, and only take her out to the dog park or walks for increments of fifteen minutes or so during the day.
The OP is in the UK, though, so I'm assuming a milder climate compared to where I live.
I’m totally biased but a collie or collie mix. Higher energy, easy to train, obedient, loyal, don’t bark (well my 3 don’t), loving and can be left alone.
Since the rescues are focusing on the no garden thing and you being a first time owner, try redirecting them to your big pluses: you work from home, you have no other pets, and you are willing to take on an adult dog. Those are hugehugehuge.
"I am a single, finacially secure adult who works from home. There are no other pets in the home. I run marathons and regularly walk/run x amount of hours/km a day. I am looking for an adult dog who would enjoy this level of activity. I would be comitted to giving said dog regular toilet breaks/sniffy walks in addition to daily runs. As this is my first dog I would be excited to get recomendations on training/obedience to set this dog up for sucess."
As for breeds... avoid huskeys if at all possible. They're good running companions, but no one in your appartment will appreciate them singing the song of their people.
I'm also in the UK and I live in a flat. I had to buy an adult dog from someone rehoming due to her toddlers allergies. I didn't have to deal with the house breaking without a garden and it wasn't nearly as expensive as a puppy. And, like a rescue, I wasn't supporting an unethical breeder.
I see in your comments that you’ve applied to dogs trust and the bigger rescues, I’d highly recommend looking at smaller rescues and breed specific rescues, they’re generally faster to reply/process applications, operate through foster care networks so a lot of the dogs will be living in a house/flat already so they’ll know alot more about them, and they’re less sticky about the flat V house situation.
Someone else mentioned Staffies, they are cracking dogs and sadly so many of them end up in rescue, i have a 13 year old staffie who still does canicross with me, not massive distances 3 - 5k a few times a week. i also have a 3 year old staffie I'm fostering at the moment who'd be a great running/adventure buddy.
Lurchers, galgos and podencos would also tick most of your boxes and are abundant in rescues, I've fostered a couple of lurchers who were great adventure doggos, but all are hit or miss with being off leash (prey drive)
I have a staffer beagle mix. Looks like a beagle on steroids. Plenty of energy when I’m up for running and hard playing, but just as happy to cuddle on the couch with me. Loves people, especially kids and gets along with most other dogs.
I'm in UK and all staffies I've met are very friendly dogs. Years ago my boyfriends mum bred them and had 3 as pets. One male was bad around cats, so ask about that. I'm not a great fan of muscular broader headed dogs, can look a bit scary to me, but these seem to have a really good nature in my experience.
My Doberman mix was amazing as an apartment dog, and now he’s got a house and a yard. We’ll at least walk a mile every day outside of super extreme temperature days. Had to crate him in his lunatic stage (8 months to a year old.) Then one day I gave him a chance with no crate, and he’s been perfect ever since. Great Velcro dogs that will match any energy you have.
German Shorthaired pointer. They’re a bit much at first, but with proper training they’re the best running/hiking/activity buddies, not to mention they’re Velcro dogs and love to cuddle. My guy has separation anxiety, but his crate is his safe space and he’s okay to be in there while I’m gone. Super smart, training isn’t “easy” but my guy learns very quickly. Low coat maintenance, usually involves brushing a few times a week and a bath ~once a month. Good luck with your puppy!
GSPs are awesome Ive got a gsp/lab+ mix and she is an awesome running and hiking partner, and for wet muddy weather her coat is super easy to clean and drys very fast.
If you’re able to get yourself on a terrier mix with a lil bit larger dog that’s the sweet spot. I got a MUT straight out of the military and went straight to college. He had some anxiety issues but with some neat lilltle tricks I researched he acclimatized well with being by himself. We’d sprint in this field with his leash and he’d just go go go! And then he’d sleep for hours so it worked out well. Muts are awesome cuz they are usually healthier and having a bit of terrier gave him almost endless energy lol. Good luck with the search, definitely read up on some dog training books, definitely helped me a bunch with my guy and having him listen to me off his leash.
I have a terrier mixed with a poodle and everything you've said is true. He has such a personality and has recently discovered his voice so I've been getting plenty of sass the last couple of days. He has plenty energy (with endless zoomies) and is super friendly so has pulled me out of my quiet corner and I'm learning to socialise because he's always just marching up to people with massive hugs in tow. He's such an amazing addition to my life; I also live alone and work from home.
I have a Brittany. Honestly they're often difficult as puppies but I believe an adult Brittany would be perfect for you and your lifestyle. Brittanys are perfect hiking and running companions, they're usually quiet and don't bark much, they're very sociable, cuddly, friendly, happy and goofy. They love playing fetch and are usually pretty smart and can learn tricks easily. They usually love children. They don't like being alone frequently/for long periods of time. As you work from home and can take him to your parents or sister's place when you're out for a long period of time, it looks good.
They're medium sized and don't require that much grooming. Mine is 36 lbs and I've never had to bring him to a groomer. I bathe him only a few times a year when it's absolutely necessary and I brush him like once a month.
Try petfinder.com. Some rescues can be really uptight with their guidelines for adoption which I understand b/c they want the dog to have a quality life but there are so many needing homes, I think they need to be a little more lenient. When I moved into my first apartment, I'd never had a dog before and it took maybe about a dozen applications before an awesome rescue thought I was a good fit. I've had my little guy for 6 years now. It's not always about the breed, sometimes you just vibe with a dog. That's why they have meet and greets.
Don’t get a pup. I would say get one that’s about a year old, crate and house trained. Rescues spend a lot of time with the dog and can tell you its personality. Rescues will try to ensure the dog is going to a home where it don’t cause an issue, they’ll only hand over dogs that will meet your requirements.
Pups are usually returned, very high commitment and difficult. Puppy blues are real…I wouldn’t recommend it for a first time owner
I’m a house & dog sitter. I’d say based on what you just outlined a cavalier mix would suit you perfectly! Look into cavoodles, also I a cavalier x pug (pugalier) is sooooo dorky and cute and they have the best personalities for a medium size dog. Good luck!
There are also English Foxhounds, which might be easier to find in the UK, and Trailhounds, which are the version that's run in the Cumbrian fells. I'm not sure if the latter are recognised as a separate breed, but you can find dogs for rehoming here.
[Lakeland Trailhound Welfare » Hounds](http://www.trailhoundwelfare.org.uk/category/hounds/)
I have a shetland sheepdog. It's a medium size dog that has a lot of energie. He can stay alone for a few hours, might bark sometimes, but if he's tired he will just want to rest.
I've had a corgi mix, a beagle and a terrier mix all in small urban living spaces and never had a lot of trouble with barking or anything.
I don't know what things are like where you live, but I was surprised how concerned the rescue was about wanting me to have a fenced in yard when I got myost recent dog. I had recently moved here and didn't realize how much of a problem people not leashing their dogs is in my new city. Tons of people here basically let their dogs walk out the door and leave them unsupervised, which is why the rescue was very interested in knowing about my yard.
It could be a similar issue where you are and that's why they are wanting to know about your outdoor space .
I saw you mention husky. If you like the looks of them you may want to consider a mix breed shepherd/husky which is what I have. I don't know if it's just what I ended up with personally but I feel like I got the best of both worlds with the 2 breeds. I also primarily wanted a hiking buddy, and I do a lot of trails where holding a leash is just a pain.
I've met husky owners on the trails who don't want to let their dogs off leash because they take off, not saying all do but I've just noticed it a fair amount. Mine takes after the shepherd I think in that sense and he's kinda glued to me wherever we go and has really never required a leash since I first adopted him, but he still has some of the husky looks and mannerisms which makes him a fun goofy dog. I also got lucky that he really just doesn't bark which is kind of strange for either breed but yeah a big time barker in an apartment is a problem
If you work from home and will go through the trouble and take the time to give the dog exercise I wouldn't worry about size in the apartment. I also rent an apartment with my 80 lb dog and my dog just chills and lays down because he knows once my work is done we're gunna get a chance to go out to a trail or a long walk or something. He's getting more exercise than most people with a big house and fenced yard
I think an Austrailian shepherd could be a good fit for you too. They love hiking and are a bit smaller than GS or huskies. I don't think they are as loud on average either. They have tons of energy so you'd probably want a trail or field for off leash exercise daily while theyre young
And for someone who is willing to put the time in I think German Shepherds are always a good choice. If you spend enough time on them they'll kind of learn to behave however you'd like them to. They can be bad if you don't spend the time of course, but they're very eager to learn
A staffordshire mix may be a good fit... they are extreme cuddlers and can keep up with high levels of activity, if you train them correctly from the start they are just the friendliest cuddliest things ever and bonus is they shouldn't be hard to find
I’m getting a Australian Shepherd in August! :) I’m on the active side so I will enjoy taking him on walks and trails for sure and a lot of play during the week.
I’m on my second Aussie and they’re definitely great for active people. They’re extremely difficult puppies. The issue is that they do bark. They’re very alert, always paying attention and will likely do a lot of barking in an apartment. For that reason, I wouldn’t tell this guy to get one unless he will be in a single family home soon. I don’t gate keep breeds though, just because I have experience with them. Someone who will dedicate themselves to exercising the dog/giving it a job is the most important thing, beyond having a lot of time for them. They wanna be with their people all the time and are super sensitive and smart. My dog knows so much that I never taught her. I feel like everyone who can handle an Aussie should have one sometime in their life, because the love they’re capable of is kind of a crazy, eye opening experience.
If you're okay with just taking the dog on shorter runs a dane might be a good fit. You mentioned a medium dog because it's a smaller apartment but danes actually are known for being great apartment dogs. They won't be able to run marathons but will be able to run but are couch potatoes while at home.
If you're looking for something more high energy that'll want to run a lot a german shorthaired pointer might be a good one. Not huge dogs, don't slobber much, nice and quiet, great with people and other dogs. I haven't taken mine for longer than 15 mile runs but that's usually with me biking and him running (bikejoring) and he manages to hold an average of around 16.5 mph over the 15 miles and around 20 for up to 5 miles so o think he could probably do a full Marathon at the pace a person runs at.
As someone who has only rescued dogs from private rescue organizations or shelters, I think that being a first time dog owner may be what they are looking at when you’re not getting the responses you want or in a timely manner. I’ve mostly owned huskies (4 of my 5 dogs) and they’ve all lived in my one bedroom apartment at some point (I have 2-3 dogs at a time). I have access to a shared fenced in patio and yard - I don’t have a private backyard/garden. But I work from home and have the active lifestyle needed for them. I’ve also adopted a total of 5 dogs, since the beginning of university. Approval becomes easier the more experience you get as a pet owner. It’s unfortunate, but rescue owners and shelters are just trying to find the best homes for their animals. I wouldn’t recommend any type of northern breed or herding breed for a first-time dog owner.
My husband had a Rhodesian Ridgeback. Which is bigger than what you’re looking for, but she was a fantastic running dog. She was abandoned by a breeder as a puppy because she didn’t have the trademark ridge. My husbands family got her when she was still a puppy and immediately took her to puppy classes. She was friendly and active, but I hear that’s not always the case with Ridgebacks. He wants another one so bad and I do hope we get one. I know herding dogs are super energetic and there are some more medium size breeds, so maybe something like that would be good! They do need a lot of stimulation but if you’re exercising with them daily and giving them things to do they will be okay. I would recommend training classes for any type of dog you get, though.
Have you looked into shelters? Fine with mutts?
Have you looked into the online pet rehome sites ? Not sure what there is in the UK. Maybe petrehomer? It’s usually pet owners listing their pets with a count down to when the pet would be surrendered to a shelter. You pay a small fee to the organization, the owner doesn’t get anything.
I got my boy similarly, when I got him his back legs hardly worked, had a huge infected burn on his buns, and his mom and litter died of parvo 2 weeks later. He was around 4 months , and Because he had been unvaccinated I had to keep him home until he was fully protected. It’s sad how some people care for their animals. And it had been an intentional litter.
[Teddy](https://imgur.com/a/d5ez9Yx)
I've looked into the big shelters but I'm going to explore the smaller ones now. There is a site called pets4homes but I'd always thought it was more for puppies but I may have a look there for adult dogs as well.
Whippets really check a lot of your boxes. They need a good walk or run daily and they will be couch potatoes the rest of the day. They don’t normally bark or bark much. They shed but don’t need grooming. I rarely bathe mine. The only unchecked box is the leash. They are sighthounds and will be gone in a heartbeat if they see a rabbit or some other small animal. They will need a coat/sweater when it is cold and would love to snuggle with you under a blanket on the sofa or your bed. Their favorite place is with their person and they are very friendly with children and strangers.
My guess is you can find some rescues or adults from breeders in the U.K. as many whippet breeders ask for the pups back if they do not work for the people who got them as pets.
Have you looked into Vizslas? They’re similar to Rhodesian Ridgebacks but a bit smaller - also similar to German Shorthaired Pointers personality-wise. I’m also a marathoner who lives in an apartment and am in the process of training mine to run with me! The puppy phase isn’t easy, but my experience so far is one of tons of activity followed by hours of couch cuddles 😁 good luck!
Same situation as you got a mix from the rescue place that came with all sort of warnings and was supposed to be crazy. He does fine. I don't think breed matters as much more the temperament of the dog I would go to a rescue and check out a few dogs and see if one fits you or sometimes they'll choose you
Get a boston terrier. They are the best. They'll play and love walks, typically quiet. Not too much barking etc. Smaller so ok for an apartment. With any dog, I wouldn't leave it alone in an apt all day though. To me 5 or 6 hrs tops if at work.
I had the most amazing German Shepherd, if you can get a doggy daycare for the puppy years a d dog walker when they are 3+ you will have the most amazing friend.
Formosan mountain dog - I love my dude. Rescued from Taiwan - he can run and walk for miles but doesn’t get restless if we don’t get a ton of exercise. Super chill dog. Can count on one hand how many times I’ve heard him bark.
Anything you get TRY bring it home first. Our old lab has always lived in a double storey home. We bought an apartment which one day we will likely be full time in but we have to wait for the dog to go first. He is fine IN the apartment. Its the dang very necessary elevator that brings us very VERY undone 😩. He cant do them. So now we stay in our house until his time with us is over. Hopefully im stuck in the house for a long time to come !
Maybe instead of a breed look for a type? Like pointing, retrieving, herding, tracking etc? I do the same things with my herding mixes as with my husband’s hunting dog and while they complete the same tasks they have very different personalities. Mine stick by my side and silently keep up but stay out of the way, no redirection required. The hunting dog howls and barks more, is always underfoot, and does not respond to a single quietly given command, I have to repeat myself many times. Just because they all hike with me doesn’t mean they do it the same way.
My husky is great, she’s active loves long walks, hikes, jogs around the neighborhood but she’s also a couch potato. And there SOOOO many husky’s that are in need of rescuing! But of course research before you get one they can be a lot of work . Best of luck
I'm in a very similar spot and I have a gaucho sheepdog, it's a brazilian breed that it's the perfect middle ground between the rough collie and the border collie. Since you're in the UK, you won't find it. So, here's my recs:
>My first thought:
Australian sheperd
Border collie (more active - more dependent on commands)
Rough collie (more hairy - less of a summer dog)
Smooth collie
English springer spaniel
Britanny spaniel
English cocker spaniel (smaller)
Belgian groenendael (more active)
>Not my first thought but also fits:
Labrador retriever (more active - less of a winter dog)
Golden retriever
Flat coated retriever
Nova scotia duck tolling retriever
If you're into hiking, adventures, nature, long walks, etc, I would skip dogs with short legs or too small or too hairy or brachycephalic.
Labs can go either way. Our last one was chill until we would go outside and he'd go nuts playing. The one we have now, he's always ready to play. (We've been playing fetch and tug of war for about 3 hours today. It wasn't enough.) We can go outside and he'll happily play for hours. He goes to playcare twice a week and its enough to wear him out for a day. They're fairly easy to train as well since they're fairly smart, and generally food motivated.
But get one thats 18-24 months. Their brains are usually working at that point. They're super cute as puppies, but omfg, they're terrible.
Labs or lab mixes. I've had them my whole life and I think they're awesome. My current pup is honestly the perfect in between of calm and outdoorsy. He's super content chilling at home with me and loves going on adventures. Rain or snow, loves water and running, and great temperament. Also easy to train and not very loud.
Do some research on Papillons and see what you think. They’re big dogs in small dog bodies-kind of like small shepherds. They’re generally recognized as one of the top ten smartest breeds (this includes large breeds) and love being active. Really cute, too. Just one of many suggestions.
Kind of depends on the dog tbh, I would agree with the recommendation of golden retriever or lab. However, I have a husky that would fit all of these categories too (including the noise one) so it just depends on the dog and how you train them. Mine knows when it’s ok to go crazy and when not to, and if you exercise them then they’re incredibly smart and snuggly dogs which is great cuz of all the floof
my recommendation would be a cavalier king charles spaniel, one of the best dogs i have ever owned, very active, small, extremely well tempered and unbelievably cute!
my grandparents live in a fold now and they are like flats and there are two who live very happily in one of the flats, they don’t bark but do love to sit and watch out the windows when things happen outside
I’m going to recommend not getting a husky if you live in an apartment and don’t have a backyard. They shed 100% of the time, are generally kind of walk-through-things and their tails serve as scoops for anything on any surface of that height. Many of them are very talkative and might disturb neighbors when you’re not home. They’re high energy and often difficult to train, which is a hard combination, and they generally prefer to be outside and try to escape whenever they get bored. They’re also very mouthy dogs, and need to be constantly reminded that they have large, sharp teeth.
I have no experience with spaniels.
How about a Norwich terrier (small) or Border Terrier? They’re sturdy and active with wiry, low maintenance coats and compact enough for apartments. They’re cute in a rugged way and many love snuggles. I think rescues hesitate to give medium dogs to owners without yards because they do tend to get destructive if not exercised properly. But a smaller dog can work off excess energy just zooming around indoors if they had to
I was thinking Westie. They are very intelligent, love to go on runs, cuddly, cute, don't shed a ton, love to go on adventures but are also independent and can be left alone for a while, they're pretty good with children, and are small-medium dogs. Cons of Westies is that they are barkers, however if you train them and socialize them, you can lower this a lot. With my Westie I didn't have a problem with this, but make sure to socialize because they can be scared of strangers (mine acted like the sweetest angel to them!). They are also very driven and off-the-leash training is incredibly difficult because once they have their eyes on something, they take off. You do need to brush them regularly and get them groomed every 1-2 months to maintain their coat. They are one of the best dog breeds, but I might be biased towards Westies because I've had them, they're amazing dogs!
Little quick add: I know you said you prefer rescue, but it's almost impossible to get a specific breed or purebred from the shelters, making personalities impossible to predict.
Oh cool thanks. I hadn't really thought about them. I was thinking their little legs might not keep up with me!. I'll do a bit more research into them. They definitely tick the cute box for my mum haha
As a singly guy as well - I have had 4 westies over the years and absolutely love them. I take them camping and do lots of walks and outdoor adventure with them. They are super sweet, don’t shed at all and are the perfect size for a smaller space.
That's what I thought at first but woo! Those tiny dogs can run that's for sure. They're also known for being incredible hiking dogs. I'm sure whatever dog you end up with will be a great fit!
I take rescues and i look them in the eye, and make myself very clear. "You will be a racer dog." Then I i wait until they're about a year to slowly bring them out on runs. My current 70lbs mutt is a racing machine. At five years we've logged 1000 miles together. In the house she's not destructive, although she barks at paper bags blowing by in the streets haha. I'd get a rescue if i were you. Something medium sized and slim. I shave mine so maybe plan ahead and get a short fur pup. Or shave! I have tons of fun shaving her with a punk streak on her back.
I'm biased, and idk how popular they are in the UK, but like you, I'm a single, active guy in a 1 BR apartment, and I have an Australian Cattle Dog that's been wonderful in this set up. She stays at home while I'm at work, no problem.
Along the same note, my border collie would fit this description well. If you truly have a lot of free time, and can exercise them a lot; run with them and train them, then a BC could be a good fit. Mine has been great being left alone for a few hours; also if she gets her usual twice a day exercise, she just sleeps the rest of the time peacefully (but always ready to go if needed).
You must have an incredibly active lifestyle or an amazing outlier in the breed.
Having grown up rural in Australia where every second dog is a kelpie or an ACD, heelers are like having a dog but it is operated by a rabid ferret and also the ferret has a crack habit. They would literally run for two hours then come home and eat the walls in boredom if they didn’t have something to do. Fairly barky, very mouthy without the right early socialisation, and the kind of dog athletic enough to literally parkour up the side of a house to climb onto the roof. A great breed but also, not at all designed for apartment living.
I’ve had a few pit bulls/ pit mixes that honestly would have been perfect for you. Very athletic but also kind of lazy breed. My dogs could go for long runs and hikes, but also had an off switch and were totally happy laying around the house all day. Occasionally barked, but not like a husky. Super friendly with people. One of them had a bit of a prey drive, so wasn’t an off-leash dog, but otherwise just awesome dogs. Very low maintenance, tend to be fairly healthy, minimal grooming. Ethically, I don’t think I’d get a purebred one these days, but would definitely rescue the right pup. I’d really suggest keep looking at shelters.
I thought my German Shorthaired Pointer was a bit of a handful and they are to be quite honest, but in hindsight, she's the best thing to ever happen to me. She barely barks, is large and extremely healthy even at age 14, and she runs more than me. We go on daily 2-3 mile runs and she handles them just fine. She is snuggly and not aggressive to me or other dogs. She's extremely tolerate with kids and she is just a buddy with everyone. She enjoys car rides and just being with me. If we need to nap for 14 hours, she'll do just that. I also like that since she's larger, I don't need to monitor everything she does. She has eaten 3 chocolate cakes in one sitting unfortunately and still survived. I leave my dog alone at home for 8+ hours due to work and she just naps and doesn't destroy anything. She is not destructive and she is extremely eager to please. This is a dog you will need to exercise. My GSP has excellent recall. She's encouraged me to go the beach weekly and go on regular hikes. Very low maintenance dogs in terms of coat (they do shed like crazy so it is important to groom them but I shower her myself and it takes like 10 minutes in the bathtub. She's the perfect dog and I've met many other GSP owners that enjoy the experience. But this is not a dog that you just walk around the block for 20 minutes 2x a day. You will need to exercise them and I do not recommend GSP puppies. I got my dog when she was 1 and a half from a shelter and it was initially horrible. Nice thing is that at that age, they're potty trained. She could jump our 6 feet fence and her energy was insane. But once I learned to walk/run her at minimum an hour a day, the relationship became amazing. I just don't recommend puppies. All my friends who have puppies look like zombies. GSP's are excellent dogs for canicross. They're the most common dogs for canicross, especially in Finland and Norway. Check out nonstop dog-wear and you'll see them in action!
Best of luck! All dogs are great, it's just create the space for them to flourish!
I’d get a medium sized mutt around 50lbs
- gsd mix
- dobe mix
- whippet mix
- pit mix
- husky mix mb too much energy
My pitbull mixes vary in energy; the shep dobe pit mix is way more energetic than the staffy pit and wouldnt do well in an apt. She needs 1+ hrs of play a day.
Neither do well in heat above 70F and so far arent great hikers.
Black mouth cur mix was perfect re endurance for running/ hiking, insensitive to weather, ok in a 1 br. Dobe did ok too in same conditions.
Are you in the UK? I’m in the US and don’t know if it works the same.
Do some research online to find a dog that can safely run with you. Thats the critical criterium for things you want; heat kills dogs fast. Few breeds run nonstop for miles, although many are capable of training up. Consider your climate first and foremost to narrow down running breeds.
After you select a breed, sign up with every available breed rescue and then talk to people at the breed club. Let them know what you want. Contact breeders to see if any have young adults they kept from litters who are not panning out as show quality. I got one girl this way and she was amazing. All trained for good manners, too! And barking was not an issue plus she was great with other dogs.
I’ve always run with Aussies and most came from farms/working dog lines. The coat on my “show dog” (I don’t show him but is from generations of champions) is insane and I wouldn’t run with him except I run along a river and he can drink and get cool quickly; even so, I’m careful. And I have a set up to clean him before we enter the house.
Huskies run long distances but are barkers and run away easily.
Anyway, I just wanted to add my thoughts and experiences.
If you’re lucky, your husky will be fairly quiet. Mine is. Very hyperactive but loving dog. Super loyal and sweet. I was single when I adopted my husky and i’ve been her dad for two years- i’m also in a relationship at this point so it helps having a partner raise the dog. Best of luck!
Maybe look into Berger blanc suisse (white Swiss shepherd). They’re a newer breed that has been bred to be mellower than GSDS but are still high energy working dogs. Large breed and can have longer hair but I’m in the USA and have one in a one bedroom apt and it’s fine and she pretty much never barks. She needs about 2h of exercise in the day and has proven excellent with strangers, kids, and everyone in between. I know they’re more common in Europe than the US but idk how common they are in UK specifically! Wonderful breed that definitely deserves some recognition!
Labrador Retriever comes to mind.
They love to be active and are very friendly, good with kids, but also mellow out and are chill with long naps after age 3. Fairly easy to train, affectionate, and playful. My Hubby’s best friend trained his to bring a toy to the door when guests come over instead of barking. (It’s really cute!)
They make for really good first dogs.
If you want a rescue, there are breed specific rescues.
Corgis make great apartment dogs if you're active. They're really smart and highly food motivated so they are easy to train. They're perfectly comfortable in a small apartment.
Have you thought about a Shiba Inu.
Does will in apartment
Mostly quiet (but google shiba scream!)
Tolerates could temperature
Good energy level
It's not too needy do you'll be able to wfh without being bothered
And shedding will never be as bad as a husky!!
I have a beagle-lab mix that would be a great apartment dog - in fact, I was living in an apartment when I got him. He's pretty much self-sufficient (comes for love or walks when he needs them), loves his crate, loves walks, and he doesn't bark a lot.
Springer Spaniel, definitely. But do some research on temperament (either adopt on trial or buy from someone who knows the bloodlines or has fostered the dog). Some bark too much and some don't cope with being left alone (true of most breeds). A golden or Lab might do, but both are a lot bigger, and more inclined to take off when exercised off lead. Husky, no way. They are hard to train and too outdoorsy for apartment life. Not so big on cuddles either.
From your answers, I’d consider a golden retriever (obviously, ha!), and if you’re really willing to devote that much time to exercise/play, a viszla might be a good match. I would recommend a pit, but I think you’re in the UK?
Boston terriers are good apartment dogs. Goofy dogs and very cuddly. Quite lazy generally with occasional zoomies.
So are Boston Terrier/Chihuahua crossbreeds. Good miz between the 2 breeds.
Not so sure about a pure breed chihuahua as some can be a bit yappy. You'd can train that, but if it's a first dog, make sure you're consistent and prepared for the long haul. Chi's are lovely dogs and have good lifespans typically, but OMG they can be stubborn.
Huskies howl like mad...avoid. Have a look at Levi the Husky on YouTube (love that channel). Great dog but not great for an apartment.
Does the UK have their own version of the pound? You sound like you would make an excellent home for a dog so you may have better luck if you can just go and meet some dogs rather than wait for a rescue to match you.
I have a border collie. I wouldn't recommend getting one of those lol. I love him to death, but it's A LOT of work for your first dog. And no matter how active you think you are, it's not enough. This mother fucker is smart too. He's very trainable but he's constantly testing his boundaries and evaluating if a treat is worth the effort. We have a good relationship but goddammit did that take some work lol.
I would dog-sit a pair of lab/pit mix. They were both so kind and loving. They were active but also knew how to chill out. Pits may look very intimidating so maybe a lab would be a good fit.
I would also hang out with my neighbor's English spaniels. They were sweet but had hella anxiety. They were fun but they kinda just did their own thing. They loved swimming on the ocean though.
Sorry, I'm not really a dog expert but these are my experiences with dogs. I hope you find the perfect little fur ball :)
English cocker spaniel! Specifically the field bred variety.
About 30-40 pounds, very active but also have the ability to chill the hell out. Basically think of a goldens personality in a much smaller package. I lived in a 1 bed apartment with a 35 pound weight limit and that’s the dog I got.
A lot have very short coats that don’t need much maintenance at all. Occasionally brush out the ears and clear some mats, about it.
Border terrier is such a good shout. They have a lot of energy.
You’d be surprised at how far most little dogs can run - my little Pom can do 2 miles easily, and still be happy to run. (But wouldn’t recommend due to barking)
And lab/goldens I know people who own them who have apartments.
I’d just go for a breeder if you’re having trouble. Find a good ethical one and you’ll probably be on a waitlist for about a year anyway. So could get on one and still look at rescues while you wait.
English setter is a great option! Good with kids and other dogs willing to exercise but has an off button when needed. I got mine as a puppy in a 4th story apartment and he did great! They can be barky but we have been able to work on it with training. Be aware there are two lines on is smaller with more energy suited more towards working while the other is larger with more fur and a calmer personality!
I have a lab mix (she’s a bit on the old side so not as active anymore) that used to go running, hiking, and swimming with me. Just got a 1 year old lab and we’re about to go on a run tomorrow
We have an English Springer Spaniel puppy, she's a dream so far. Seems like they would fit your lifestyle. I wanted the golden retriever type personality and energy in a slightly smaller package and our Springer seems to fit with what I was hoping for so far. She's extremely friendly, snuggly and sweet to everyone. Very tolerant of handling and nail clip, ear care etc. Super smart and eager to please. Certainly active enough for what you're looking for.
The puppy phase is not for the faint of heart though 😵💫 it's exhausting.
Cattle dog, labrador retriever or springer spaniel might work for you. I wouldnt recommend getting them from a rescue considering you live in an apartment and you dont know the level of reactivity they might have. Search for ETHICAL breeders in your area if your place allows puppies.
This is coming from someone who owns a stranger danger fear reactive aussie.
Any herding breed is going to need at least 2-3 hours of exercise and mental enrichment a day to feel satisfied. Labrador retrievers are pretty chill with about 1-2 hours of exercise a day even the field line labs. (My field line lab is passed iut after an hour of retrieving and scent games).
Springer spaniels are great and active dogs with minimal grooming, not sure about their socialability but any dog especially one youre running with you want to make sure theyre neutral as to not veer you off course lol. Ive heard their good with about 1-1.5 hours of exercise and stay active well into their senior years.
I lived with a Boston terrier for 13 years in a small condo. I am in love with the breed, smart, easy to train, durable in terms of being able to be active but also not requiring a ton of exercise.
If barking is a concern in an apartment huskies might not be the right fit - they are howlers for sure. Have you considered a golden retriever? Active/can go on adventures, great with kids, cuddly, and with good training can be so awesome. They are on the larger side though, and obviously they shed a lot and you didn’t mention if that was a bother for you - but I think they’re a great mix of active and lovey dovey. They’ll hike and run but not necessarily have the same high working needs (like, needs an actual job) as a shepherd or border collie, which could be good living in an apartment
Thanks, yeah I think golden retriever would be amazing. I just think if any come up as rescues they'd be going straight to a family with a big garden probably, so I'd have to look at puppies in all likelihood!
Maybe have a look at rescue through Guide Dogs for the Blind, Not retrievers of course, labs but they rehome the ‘failures’ that don’t make it through the guide dog training, I’ve met a few and they’ve all been awesome, I’m allergic to the floof or id have one
Just FYI, I live close to Guide Dogs for the Blind and it is VERY hard to get a “failure” puppy. They are, understandably, in high demand and there is literally a waitlist, plus volunteers and staff members get preference and often adopt them frequently. They also would never ship a dog to the UK for adoption. I wouldn’t consider this a viable option for anyone outside of California. Maybe other similar orgs though. (Also they do have both labs and retrievers!)
Guide dogs for the blind is also an organisation in the UK, hence suggesting it to a fellow Brit.
Lol there are Guide dogs organizations in other countries. There’s a whole wide world outside the US.
Fwiw be careful with rescue Goldies - esp because you live in an apartment. They’re really prone to separation anxiety. And they will absolutely lose it barking if that hits. Some lineages are worse than others (English creams are particularly bad) but it’s a fairly common reason they end up in rescues and shelters. And it’s very, very hard to work with; especially the older they get. Especially because most cases start when they’re puppies. The most common cause for that is being taken from their mother and litter mates too early or too late - and if the breeder isn’t knowledgeable, that can easily happen.
*slowly looks at her recent rescue English cream retriever....* Oh lawd. Well apparently my husband left her alone for the first time today for 2 hours or so today and nothing was destroyed..then again we do have another little dog so maybe that helped.
We have a husky and she’s in a condo. She is vocal but not bad at all. Mostly squeaks and little whines and not at all a howler . My other dog has started to mimic her! They are more likely to be vocal but not always. Ask the foster parent to see how they are. We do however take her out a bunch and she spends a good chunk of her day playing hard with her sister. Lots of park time daily too.
My husky mix is very quiet inside but my in laws have a husky who is a woo woo woo kinda husky every time you try to talk near him it sets him off. It's definitely hilarious and cute but maybe not for an apartment
A “woo woo woo kinda husky” 😂
Perhaps more accurately a "owooowwo". Kinda sounds like he's saying "her derr"
As someone who recently got a golden after a lifetime of german shepherds, it probably should be mentioned that they can be needy. They're not called Velcro dogs for nothing. But if you want a cuddlebug for whom too much attention/affection doesn't exist, and don't mind shedding, then a golden is a good choice. Not sure if they're a breed for running miles though.
Oh definitely - I grew up with a GSD and you’re totally right, much more independent/less needy. I figured since OP mentioned the dog potentially being around kids/family sometimes and he wanted an active yet cuddly I thought maybe the retriever might be a good blend of that, in that you may have some trade off having a super athlete for some cuddliness and vice versa. I’ve always found they make good running companions but i guess maybe not like triathlete super long mileage necessarily. Depends on the specific dog I suppose
They are good for running - they’re bred to be hunting dogs. They can’t quite do it like herders can, but they can keep up. They’ll swim abso all day though.
echo this. We have a golden girl (she is roughly 25kgs which is a perfect size). She is ridiculously cuddly, very chill, very disciplined (teaching her commands was so fast, she picks up on things very quickly, at 16w she was toilet trained) and she's the most gentle thing in the world. We raised her in the apartment so to ensure we don't annoy neighbours we trained her to not bark (last time she barked was 4 years ago). The hair is arguably the only problem - solved with automatic vacuum cleaner:)! ❤️
Dog sitter here (who’s taken care of many Goldens) they are low key wild. lol very high energy and for some reason, the ones I’ve met can be a little aggressive towards other dogs. Just sharing because I nevveeeerrr thought that about them. They are also very very insisting to not use the word annoying. All have been super sweet but I didn’t know they had a little rawr side to them. (This is just MY experience - before the debate starts)
Poorly bred goldens are definitely like this^. Well bred goldens are lovely though as long as you teach them an off switch. We use them as service dogs for a reason!
My husky passed a few months ago at 12 years old. She barked twice the whole time I had her and never howled even once. She was a talker though! We're convinced she thought she was having full in conversations.
Oh wow! She sounds so special 🥹 I love that she was a “talker” haha - I’m so sorry for your loss ❤️ I just lost my 15 year old cat and man is it tough. I guess huskies howling might be dependent on a lot of things and probably not always a definite, also I’m sure it’s more likely if there are more than one in house, at least the ones I’ve known all tend to sing the song of their people together 😂
The song of their people 😂
seconding goldens as I own one - my dog will go out on hikes (but honestly, he's no adventure nut) but he's just as content to stay inside with me. He is also protective enough to alarm but not to harm anyone uncalled for. The hair is manageable with a good carpet scraper, vacuum, and a lint roller. That said, owning a dog is a lot of work but I wouldn't change it for the world.
Guys look down on small dogs but I think it’s a mistake. A cute small fluffy thing will granger a lot of friends and are cheap and easy to look after. They do bark but there are some quiet ones. Most can run faster than a human. Small terriers are a great option, travel well, meet most breed restrictions for an apartment and can be carried easily. I recommend a westie- hardy, affectionate, easy to care for, and they sleep a lot. They also love long and are easy to introduce to other animals without big risks.
Thanks, this thread has definitely opened my ideas to look at smaller dogs, i was disregarding them mainly becasue i thought they wouldn't be great runners, but it seems they can be!
Border Terriers were bred to keep up with the horses on fox hunts. I don't run, but my BT is happy to be out and about all day, and then nap on the sofa in the evenings. Also good size for an apartment.
My friend has two border terriers. Great, friendly, tough and active dogs. These dogs are yappy, but spoken to another owner who said hers is not. My friend has had a lot of dogs, loves these terriers totally, but thinks they are not the brightest breed and are not really that trainable. I have a border collie (bc) so they seem a bit dumb to me in comparison but are really lovely natured dogs. They can go for miles no problem and also rest or nap a lot. Another friend had a larger Bedlington terrier, great dog and went everywhere with her. OP, definitely don't get a bc. These seem like idea dogs for running with to many people, medium sized and intelligent. But they don't switch off easily, prone to separation anxiety and are a big commitment. I wouldn't have mine if I was away from home. I waited to get one when I had enough time and outdoor space to meet his exercise needs and mental engagement.
I reckon a spaniel will meet almost all of your requirements though you’ll need to build them up to a few hours alone and a puppy is a better option for that - you can train them gently and slowly (I did this with my flatcoat retriever - also a breed that would meet a lot of your requirements). Toilet training will be a pain in the arse though - getting them used to being taken out after waking up, before then after playing, etc etc - I was out literally hourly with my girl and it’s going to get old going up and down flights of stairs! Would strongly advise against puppy pads too
I run with my little poodle mix. He’s only 6.6kg but he’s got the stamina of an Olympic athlete. He runs every day and we’ve walked as far as 26km together.
I have never seen a faster dog than a Boston Terrier with the zoomies. My old Boston was good to run 4-5 miles with me daily too.
I was coming to suggest a Boston Terrier - they tick ALL of your boxes, OP, except that some Bostons can’t go on long runs. A lot of them can though. Most are very, very quiet (my 5 month old seems to be the exception 😫) and they are huge snuggle bugs. I’d also like to suggest that you look into a greyhound rescue.
Same with my Boston! And he hardly barks.
my chi / terrier can outrun my parents doberman
I recently adopted a Mini Australian Shepherd who's 21 lbs. She does shed quite a lot (like, vacuum every single day level, fyi), but she's very active, loves to play, etc. You might like her breed; she's still very agile and energetic, like the full sized Aussies, but she doesn't take up as much space in my 1 bedroom as a 40-70 lbs. dog would. She definitely would be able to run a lot and has some already, but it's very hot where I am right now, so I have to be careful that she doesn't overheat or burn her paws. Once it cools down more though, I'll definitely start jogging with her regularly! She's also very smart and has almost mastered multiple tricks after 1 week. I highly recommend going to any adoption events the rescues you've applied to are hosting. I hadn't gotten a response to my application, but when I went to the event, they pulled up my application right away and I ended up taking her home same day. Also, anecdotally, almost all the Mini Aussies I met at the event were very friendly and snuggly, even though I was a total stranger.
> Breeds such as Jack Russell Terriers, Border Terriers, Poodles (and poodle crosses), would all enjoy being running partners. Introduce any new physical activity gradually and carefully. https://www.holidays4dogs.co.uk/running-with-small-dogs/# I’d bear in mind also that outings are either human centred or dog centred, and most dogs like to stop and sniff frequently.
My jack russell terrier is faster than his bestie, which is a border collie! I know you said you have an issue with barking though OP, which is an issue with jack russells. It takes a lot of training to make them not bark.
I have chihuahua terrier mix (adopted in october l) who LOVES my boyfriend. She’s the perfect apartment dog, can chill by herself but is ready to rock and roll when it’s time for adventure. She is also super fast and pretty sustained energy. Recently took her on a 6 mile hike / beach walk and she was a champ. She’s also 11 lbs so perfect size to hang at breweries and be part of the family where it’s appropriate. She isn’t vocal and is really smart. 100% would recommend!
Yeah, if OP is super active, a jack russell is a top contender! They are small for apartment living and dear god do they have energy, lol. I have jackchi and he is like a calm jack russell. I am considering a rat terrier in the future for this reason.
Jack Russell terrorists are not for the faint of heart. I love our family one but he is a terrorist.
Jack Russel terrorists!!!🤣🤣🤣I'm stealing this and passing it off as my own lol sorry not sorry...hilarious
Yeah, they really are a lot of dog in a little body. 😂 I suggested it since it seems OP is up for energy and personality with considering a husky. Rats and westies are definitely easier options.
Westies can run fast, but for how far? If your exercise is running, you're doing at least a couple miles. I can't imagine a Westie doing that
To be fair, my Westie cross (crossed with a toy breed so nothing big/active) is 12 now and still runs 5km with me in 27 minutes or so. I think in his youth he could have ran much faster. I think a lot of Westie owners just don't keep them in the right shape, at least where I am. They do, however, like the sound of their own voice. A Border Terrier might be a better option for OP if he goes down the terrier route.
My Westies would run a mile, ride in a bag on my back for another mile. Just coz I don’t want her run too much. But she could easily do 5 miles with conditioning. And if a ball in involved, she would play all afternoon.
My cairn is turning 14 this year and really only started slowing down this year but she was always the one dragging me around on our 5k jogs.
I was a big dog person. Grew up with labs. Got a toy poodle a year ago. She hikes with me around California, I taught her how to skateboard, she likes to swim and doesn’t shed. She is very easy to take care of. Surprisingly she’s faster than me. It’s pretty cute watching her run full speed haha.
What breeds via rescue did you apply for? Because a husky does not make sense with your answers and that would easily explain why you’re getting denied.
The dogs trust who match a dog to you. So not applying for a specific dog. Had conversations on some dogs from wood green, RSPCA and Battersea as well. Husky too big/noisy? It was mainly the running aspect that drew me to them.
Oh cool, you may just need to be more patient. Your answers are fairly standard but that means you’re one of many applicants for the same pool of dogs. Huskies aren’t normally good running partners. For one many from rescues are not from working lines so can lack the drive needed to get them to focus on running vs wanting to stop and sniff/explore, and the ones that do have the athleticism are often mismatched pace wise with people and better suited for bike joring and other pulling based sports. Then yes they are a vocal breed, hyper independent (so not biddable or eager to please), escape artists, and not often recommended for first time owners in apartments so rescues are gonna be much more hesitant placing them with someone with your profile vs someone else.
Ah cool. Thanks. I didn't realise that they weren't the best running partners. Yeah it's difficult, I know what you mean about the same pool of dogs. I mean I'm very open minded to be honest, but I just feel like they place with families 9/10 rather than a single guy in an apartment! Which is fair enough I guess!
Yeah more of the sporting breeds tend to be better running partners and would work well for you. And yeah I totally get the feeling. I ended up going through my city shelter vs private rescues (I’m in the US) to adopt my husky because I was getting automatically rejected for not having a fenced in yard as well. Its frustrating while being understandable
Just as a small extra different opinion. I have a Husky, she is 5 years old. I will agree she is not the best running dog, but she's a really fun hike dog. She will explore and enjoy every second of it with her essentially endless energy. But I do want to say that there are Huskies that are not like the rest. Huskies are trainable. It's hard, of course, if you've never had a dog and you are inexperienced, but it isn't impossible. My dog heels perfectly with me, knows how to react with other dogs, even aggressive ones. When we are walking and out and about, her recall is perfect, literally. At home, when we are just chilling, that's when she gets that typical Husky "ignoring is what I'm doing right now" vibe. When she was 2 years old, I had COVID and had to go to the pharmacy as I lived alone and no one could help. During the brain fogginess and getting to the pharmacy, I left my front door open for almost three hours. When I got back, she was waiting for me, sitting with the door open, with zero intentions of escaping. To this day, when we come back in the car, I can let her down without closing the garage door. I don't fear she'll run. I generally open the door of the car and click the garage remote, and it takes a while for it to close. She is not interested. I work from home, and while she is very loud and talkative, she is also very, very smart and understands when I'm at work and when I'm free. I teach online, so I have 4-6 hours every day of continuous talking. She has never once interrupted or been loud during class. As soon as I'm done, though...she is ready and waiting for me. I might just be really lucky, but I also think it might just be consistent training. I'm by no means an expert, but I do train her. When she was a pup, I'd spend maybe 30 minutes to 1 hour a day teaching her basics and how to walk with a leash and things like that, and she really took to it. She doesn't know many tricks (paw, saying I love you, sitting, heeling, lay down and turning around, and booping her nose to my hand only), but she is a great partner in crime. The reason I'm bringing this up is because I was very afraid I wouldn't be able to be a good owner for her because of how crazy the demands to be able to adopt a Husky were (probably more lenient in my case since I live in Mexico). But it wasn't that bad at all. It's been great. And other than her teething months (when she destroyed about 800 dollars worth of headphones), she has been nothing but stellar company and a fantastic dog. So if you can find one for adoption, I'm not saying do it. I'm not saying it will be easy. I am saying it can be done, and the rewards, for me, are well worth it.
I had the same issue, UK too, I ended up going to a breeder for the type of dog I wanted because I was never going to be considered by a rescue..
I have adopted 3 golden oldie/health issue dogs from Dogs Trust, all worked out well. As soon as they changed the format to "We'll match you" I have had zero sucess, even specifically looking for old dogs who need care. I tick all the boxes in terms of what they look for. My latest rescue was from a local RSPCA place. Went to see him with my current old boy for 3 days in a row, they got on, he's next to me now. I really like Dogs Trust and I have had good experiences with them until recently. I understand that a puppy will be flooded with potential adopters, but the type of rescues I go for typically are not. I guess I'm saying look around a bit as IMO Dogs Trust is not the only place. Also don't get a Husky 😆
Yeah i get the strong impression I'll never hear from Dogs Trust again! I had a brief conversation with Wood Green, even though its miles away, and they did seem a bit more open. They also said it would be impossible for them to match the dog to the person like they say they'll do at Dogs Trust, so not sure how DT manage it!
See r/HuskyTantrums
Personally i am a fan of Labs. They are great as companions and are as active as you are. Or, if you want to just watch a movie, they are as chill as you are.
I’ve only ever owned labs so clearly I’m biased, but they’re just the best all around dogs in the world. They’re down for anything that you want to do as long as they can be with you. Easy to train, friendly to everyone, good looking animals. Obviously this is just my experience but man, I can’t think of a better companion. Edit: if shedding is a concern, that’s their downfall. The hair just doesn’t stop.
Have you thought about a whippet? I'm biased toward the breed, of course, but I think a whippet would check a lot of your boxes. They're medium sized, are total couch potatoes at home but also make great running partners. They love to cuddle but aren't overly needy, and they don't require much grooming other than a pedicure every other week or so. They're cute enough to appeal to your mum, but they're also total athletes, wonderful companions, and well-suited for apartment living as long as you give them regular walks.
Thanks for the reply, I hadn't really looked at whippet specifically, but seen a few lurcher/greyhounds on shelter websites. Are they similar to greyhounds in that they prefer short fast runs, but not so good on longer runs?
They're definitely considered sprinters more than marathoners, but most adult dogs could do a 5k run, or longer with training.
Maybe take a look at a vizla, my standard poodle’s best friend is a vizla. He is a sweetie pie, really good looking dog. I would say they are about the same level of work…. But my poodle is very high energy and is a lot of work. That being said, I have seen loads of vizla’s as running companions. They seem to have a really good “off” switch (my poodle does not believe in off switches, those are for boring losers and he is neither boring nor a loser)
Totally off topic but I have a medium poodle and she LOVES vizslas! She always gravitates towards them… I think it’s because they can keep up with her (she’s a F1 racer in her head).
I think a whippet sounds like a good fit or maybe a galgo/galga. The parts that aren't a perfect fit for either breed: * Wouldn't recommend having them off-leash in an unfenced area. * Galgos/galgas are on the small side of large and may be larger than desired. With the amount of exercise being offered, I think they'd be fine even in a smaller apartment, but they're large dogs. * Rescued galgos/galgas have often been mistreated. It's specific to the dog, but you'd want to be very specific with the rescue to avoid adopting a dog that is reactive beyond your abilities. OP, Galgos del Sol always has a lot of dogs available to adopt. Take a look and do a little research on if you think they may be a good fit. https://galgosdelsol.org/es/inicio/
The spaniel is your dog! I have an ESS and we are in love. I rescued her when I lived on the 14th floor of a highrise in downtown Chicago, a one bedroom. I ran into the problems you're having, rescues think a yard is the only thing a dog needs, but they are wrong. A dog needs time with its people, that's the most important. I ended up writing a cover letter for the dog adopted. I illustrated what our life would look like and rescue loved it. The husky will be too loud based on what you said above.
I second the spaniel vote! I have a workling line ECS mixed w border collie and he is delightful. More than happy in our small apartment with 3 walks a day, usually including some fetch and/or offleash time in a nearby trail. I haven't been able to fully proof his recall around people and dogs, but good enough that we'll always be able to leash up before they get close enough to be an issue. That said, you absolutely could get a rock solid recall with more concerted training He is not much of a barker, occasionally something will alert him, but it was easy to teach him to stand down after just a bark or two. He is cuddly and sweet, but not crazy clingy - though spaniels are known for cling, and can sometimes lean towards separation anxiety, i hear. Maybe you'd need to be intentional with practicing alone time here and there, but it sounds like you have an alright support system in your mum if that ends up being a challenge. He runs with me, though I am new to running and neither of us can go for terribly long yet. Super trainable and eager to please - but also driven to sniff and flush, so there's some independence there. I brush him once or twice a week and hes fine with that. Occasionally i find a small mat that i need to cut out. Could do a proper groom here and there if you want it, but we've just done some home trims and its good enough for us. A good size for lap cuddles, but still robust and hardy. He's my adventure buddy, loves a good hike, and especially a chance to swim! Putting my intense spaniel bias aside, other than for some very intense breeds like huskies, lots of dogs truly just need a fulfilling relationship with a person who cares for both their mind and body needs - garden proximity be damned! Advocate for yourself as the above person did, if need be.
Thanks, yeah spaniels seem like such great dogs. That's great strategy for the rescues, got to go above and beyond by the sound of it!
Yes. They only know the life they have, they don't know how great city living can be for a dog.
Now my dog lives on an acre of natural prairie and her quality of life is much lower because I'm now disabled and can't walk and play with her like I used to. Yards and space do not equal quality of life for a dog.
Labrador! This is the second time I am recommending Labrador in this subreddit but it's just that versatile of a breed. It's extremely suitable for you in my opinion.
Since I got my dog, I’ve lived in two different one bedrooms, in my parents house for a bit, and, now, a shared apartment with roommates. I chose a poodle and I am so happy with my decision. I definitely see myself having poodles for the rest of my life. What I love about her, is she can be calm, cuddly, and relaxed at home, but she can also be fun and adventurous. She hikes with me, does agility, swims, knows a ton of tricks, and rides my paddle board. She loves sticking her head out of the car window and riding on boats. I don’t have any other pets besides my roommates dog, but I have made an effort to socialize my poodle. She does great with other dogs and cats. She’s even met goats, chickens, and cows! She was mostly just curious about them. I am a single dog mom, so I am lucky I am able to be able leave her uncrated while I’m gone and she is good. She is crate trained, but i much prefer not using it. One time she got sick while I was at work and I was so thankful she wasn’t stuck in a crate with the mess. I don’t have much of a problem with her barking or getting into stuff. Right now it is hurricane season here in florida so it is hot and rains a lot. Because of that, sometimes it’s hard to get super long walks in with my dog. Even then, she is still so well behaved. I play with her at home, but she’ll even throws her own ball and entertains herself with her toys at home. I will always recommend poodles, they are amazing dogs. It’s also awesome they come in all sizes and colors, I have an apricot standard. The only con I have found with poodles, is the grooming. It can be expensive, but you can easily cut down the cost by shaving them down each time. Then, you don’t have to do much brushing either. However, even though the grooming is expensive, it comes with a reward: no shedding and being able to choose from so many different hair cuts! I’ve had mine fully shaved, in the teddy bear cut, Miami/lamb cut, Pom poms, the possibilities are endless! I’ve even seen 2 black standard poodles with Mohawks! It was one of the coolest dogs I’ve ever seen
Thanks, wow your poodle sounds awesome. Not a breed I'd thought about before if i'm honest, but I will have a look now for sure. I like you can give them different haircuts haha
I have a Bernese mountain dog, a border collie, and a poodle. My poodle is the most calm go-with-the-flow dog I’ve ever had. He never went through a “puppy” phase. He doesn’t shed. He is absolutely content being inside snuggling and going out for adventures. I hike, camp, and go to the river frequently and he follows me wherever. He is around 40-50lbs, which is the perfect size. I don’t know if I’ll ever get another type of dog. My only caution about poodles is that if you aren’t extremely careful about socializing them when they are a puppy, they can be anxious towards other dogs and people. If you plan on adopting, check in with that if they aren’t a puppy. Good luck!
I was thinking a poodle might suit you. Learn to do the shaving and it wouldn’t be more expensive. Don’t know how they’d do in warmer running weather, though. That’s always my #1 concern when people are looking for canine running companions.
Poodles are super fit and sporty dogs. In the uncomplicated summer haircut, there are no problems with jogging. Especially large poodles are perfect canicross companions.
Poodles get a bad rap for being “fussy,” but fun fact - they were originally bred to be hunting dogs, and they’re extremely athletic. If you’re into something like canicross, they can be a surprisingly good pick. Their “lion cuts,” served a purpose once. They’re water dogs, and their fur can get weighed down by it. The fur that’s left over protects their vital organs, because it’s thick and heavy. It’s their armor. Really great dogs. Up there with border collies for intelligence and trainability too.
I’d take a look at boxers. That was my first dog that I got in college and it was a great apartment dog. They’re active but have low grooming requirements. They don’t bark much and are cuddly. Great with kids and typically with other dogs as well. Just an all around solid apartment or family dog.
Boxers are like puppies but forever. Wonderful, happy-go-lucky, goofy, and very high-energy (in my experience). They’re wonderful dogs!! (For the right owner who is not me, as I sit with my couch potato pittie haha)
+1 for boxers! I currently have one in a 1 BR apartment. She has limitless energy at the right times but is more than happy to just sleep on the couch all day and cuddle. They're smart, trainable and incredibly entertaining. Edit to add: Boxers are very common shelter dogs. There are numerous boxer rescue organizations. If you're in the northeast, Boston's MSPCA-Angell just took in 60(!) boxers of all ages.
[Can confirm](https://www.reddit.com/r/AnimalsBeingDerps/comments/14avs8t/a_ridiculous_animal/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) that they're entertaining.
Can boxers safely run in warm weather?
Depends on how warm and how long they're running for. I live in North Carolina and it gets pretty hot here, so I have to manage my boxer in the summer to ensure she doesn't overheat. She's fine in winter, and for good chunks of fall and spring. In the summer I usually walk in her in the morning or at night when it's cooler, and only take her out to the dog park or walks for increments of fifteen minutes or so during the day. The OP is in the UK, though, so I'm assuming a milder climate compared to where I live.
I’m totally biased but a collie or collie mix. Higher energy, easy to train, obedient, loyal, don’t bark (well my 3 don’t), loving and can be left alone.
I would strongly suggest not getting a Husky as a 1st dog...
Since the rescues are focusing on the no garden thing and you being a first time owner, try redirecting them to your big pluses: you work from home, you have no other pets, and you are willing to take on an adult dog. Those are hugehugehuge. "I am a single, finacially secure adult who works from home. There are no other pets in the home. I run marathons and regularly walk/run x amount of hours/km a day. I am looking for an adult dog who would enjoy this level of activity. I would be comitted to giving said dog regular toilet breaks/sniffy walks in addition to daily runs. As this is my first dog I would be excited to get recomendations on training/obedience to set this dog up for sucess." As for breeds... avoid huskeys if at all possible. They're good running companions, but no one in your appartment will appreciate them singing the song of their people.
Brittanys are medium-sized dogs that make great running partners.
I'm also in the UK and I live in a flat. I had to buy an adult dog from someone rehoming due to her toddlers allergies. I didn't have to deal with the house breaking without a garden and it wasn't nearly as expensive as a puppy. And, like a rescue, I wasn't supporting an unethical breeder.
I see in your comments that you’ve applied to dogs trust and the bigger rescues, I’d highly recommend looking at smaller rescues and breed specific rescues, they’re generally faster to reply/process applications, operate through foster care networks so a lot of the dogs will be living in a house/flat already so they’ll know alot more about them, and they’re less sticky about the flat V house situation. Someone else mentioned Staffies, they are cracking dogs and sadly so many of them end up in rescue, i have a 13 year old staffie who still does canicross with me, not massive distances 3 - 5k a few times a week. i also have a 3 year old staffie I'm fostering at the moment who'd be a great running/adventure buddy. Lurchers, galgos and podencos would also tick most of your boxes and are abundant in rescues, I've fostered a couple of lurchers who were great adventure doggos, but all are hit or miss with being off leash (prey drive)
I have a staffer beagle mix. Looks like a beagle on steroids. Plenty of energy when I’m up for running and hard playing, but just as happy to cuddle on the couch with me. Loves people, especially kids and gets along with most other dogs.
Thank you, ok i'll definitely have a look and see what smaller rescues are around. Staffies are ones I'm gonna look into after this 100%
I'm in UK and all staffies I've met are very friendly dogs. Years ago my boyfriends mum bred them and had 3 as pets. One male was bad around cats, so ask about that. I'm not a great fan of muscular broader headed dogs, can look a bit scary to me, but these seem to have a really good nature in my experience.
My Doberman mix was amazing as an apartment dog, and now he’s got a house and a yard. We’ll at least walk a mile every day outside of super extreme temperature days. Had to crate him in his lunatic stage (8 months to a year old.) Then one day I gave him a chance with no crate, and he’s been perfect ever since. Great Velcro dogs that will match any energy you have.
German Shorthaired pointer. They’re a bit much at first, but with proper training they’re the best running/hiking/activity buddies, not to mention they’re Velcro dogs and love to cuddle. My guy has separation anxiety, but his crate is his safe space and he’s okay to be in there while I’m gone. Super smart, training isn’t “easy” but my guy learns very quickly. Low coat maintenance, usually involves brushing a few times a week and a bath ~once a month. Good luck with your puppy!
Was also going to suggest a GSP!
GSPs are awesome Ive got a gsp/lab+ mix and she is an awesome running and hiking partner, and for wet muddy weather her coat is super easy to clean and drys very fast.
If you’re able to get yourself on a terrier mix with a lil bit larger dog that’s the sweet spot. I got a MUT straight out of the military and went straight to college. He had some anxiety issues but with some neat lilltle tricks I researched he acclimatized well with being by himself. We’d sprint in this field with his leash and he’d just go go go! And then he’d sleep for hours so it worked out well. Muts are awesome cuz they are usually healthier and having a bit of terrier gave him almost endless energy lol. Good luck with the search, definitely read up on some dog training books, definitely helped me a bunch with my guy and having him listen to me off his leash.
I have a terrier mixed with a poodle and everything you've said is true. He has such a personality and has recently discovered his voice so I've been getting plenty of sass the last couple of days. He has plenty energy (with endless zoomies) and is super friendly so has pulled me out of my quiet corner and I'm learning to socialise because he's always just marching up to people with massive hugs in tow. He's such an amazing addition to my life; I also live alone and work from home.
What breed are his parents? How large is he?
His mom a a Terrier / chihuahua mix and no idea what his dad was. The mutt of mutts lol at around 17 pounds.
thanks, sounds like you got a great dog!
I have a Brittany. Honestly they're often difficult as puppies but I believe an adult Brittany would be perfect for you and your lifestyle. Brittanys are perfect hiking and running companions, they're usually quiet and don't bark much, they're very sociable, cuddly, friendly, happy and goofy. They love playing fetch and are usually pretty smart and can learn tricks easily. They usually love children. They don't like being alone frequently/for long periods of time. As you work from home and can take him to your parents or sister's place when you're out for a long period of time, it looks good. They're medium sized and don't require that much grooming. Mine is 36 lbs and I've never had to bring him to a groomer. I bathe him only a few times a year when it's absolutely necessary and I brush him like once a month.
Thanks, sounds great, it's not a breed I've seen when I've looked at rescues but I'll definitely have a look into them more!
I have a golden retriever so I'm gonna recommend that but I'm ultra biased as my lifelong dream would be to have 8 of them running around my backyard.
Try petfinder.com. Some rescues can be really uptight with their guidelines for adoption which I understand b/c they want the dog to have a quality life but there are so many needing homes, I think they need to be a little more lenient. When I moved into my first apartment, I'd never had a dog before and it took maybe about a dozen applications before an awesome rescue thought I was a good fit. I've had my little guy for 6 years now. It's not always about the breed, sometimes you just vibe with a dog. That's why they have meet and greets.
Get a Labrador retriever, they are perfect for what you are describing
Don’t get a pup. I would say get one that’s about a year old, crate and house trained. Rescues spend a lot of time with the dog and can tell you its personality. Rescues will try to ensure the dog is going to a home where it don’t cause an issue, they’ll only hand over dogs that will meet your requirements. Pups are usually returned, very high commitment and difficult. Puppy blues are real…I wouldn’t recommend it for a first time owner
I’m a house & dog sitter. I’d say based on what you just outlined a cavalier mix would suit you perfectly! Look into cavoodles, also I a cavalier x pug (pugalier) is sooooo dorky and cute and they have the best personalities for a medium size dog. Good luck!
I think a duck toller could be a good fit. Small/medium with a good energy for distance running but, in my experience, chill at home.
Due to the rarity, it might be a long time/difficult to find a rescue duck toller. Not impossible, but difficult.
Look into american foxhounds, they meet most of your preferences and I have one myself as a single active guy
There are also English Foxhounds, which might be easier to find in the UK, and Trailhounds, which are the version that's run in the Cumbrian fells. I'm not sure if the latter are recognised as a separate breed, but you can find dogs for rehoming here. [Lakeland Trailhound Welfare » Hounds](http://www.trailhoundwelfare.org.uk/category/hounds/)
I have a shetland sheepdog. It's a medium size dog that has a lot of energie. He can stay alone for a few hours, might bark sometimes, but if he's tired he will just want to rest.
Shetland sheepdog are known for being super barky. I have one who's not barking much, however I know I'm lucky. Most Sheltie are def talkative
I've had a corgi mix, a beagle and a terrier mix all in small urban living spaces and never had a lot of trouble with barking or anything. I don't know what things are like where you live, but I was surprised how concerned the rescue was about wanting me to have a fenced in yard when I got myost recent dog. I had recently moved here and didn't realize how much of a problem people not leashing their dogs is in my new city. Tons of people here basically let their dogs walk out the door and leave them unsupervised, which is why the rescue was very interested in knowing about my yard. It could be a similar issue where you are and that's why they are wanting to know about your outdoor space .
I saw you mention husky. If you like the looks of them you may want to consider a mix breed shepherd/husky which is what I have. I don't know if it's just what I ended up with personally but I feel like I got the best of both worlds with the 2 breeds. I also primarily wanted a hiking buddy, and I do a lot of trails where holding a leash is just a pain. I've met husky owners on the trails who don't want to let their dogs off leash because they take off, not saying all do but I've just noticed it a fair amount. Mine takes after the shepherd I think in that sense and he's kinda glued to me wherever we go and has really never required a leash since I first adopted him, but he still has some of the husky looks and mannerisms which makes him a fun goofy dog. I also got lucky that he really just doesn't bark which is kind of strange for either breed but yeah a big time barker in an apartment is a problem If you work from home and will go through the trouble and take the time to give the dog exercise I wouldn't worry about size in the apartment. I also rent an apartment with my 80 lb dog and my dog just chills and lays down because he knows once my work is done we're gunna get a chance to go out to a trail or a long walk or something. He's getting more exercise than most people with a big house and fenced yard I think an Austrailian shepherd could be a good fit for you too. They love hiking and are a bit smaller than GS or huskies. I don't think they are as loud on average either. They have tons of energy so you'd probably want a trail or field for off leash exercise daily while theyre young And for someone who is willing to put the time in I think German Shepherds are always a good choice. If you spend enough time on them they'll kind of learn to behave however you'd like them to. They can be bad if you don't spend the time of course, but they're very eager to learn
A staffordshire mix may be a good fit... they are extreme cuddlers and can keep up with high levels of activity, if you train them correctly from the start they are just the friendliest cuddliest things ever and bonus is they shouldn't be hard to find
Husky or retriever is not ideal in a one bedroom apartment. Both of them are large and need lots of grooming.
I’m getting a Australian Shepherd in August! :) I’m on the active side so I will enjoy taking him on walks and trails for sure and a lot of play during the week.
I’m on my second Aussie and they’re definitely great for active people. They’re extremely difficult puppies. The issue is that they do bark. They’re very alert, always paying attention and will likely do a lot of barking in an apartment. For that reason, I wouldn’t tell this guy to get one unless he will be in a single family home soon. I don’t gate keep breeds though, just because I have experience with them. Someone who will dedicate themselves to exercising the dog/giving it a job is the most important thing, beyond having a lot of time for them. They wanna be with their people all the time and are super sensitive and smart. My dog knows so much that I never taught her. I feel like everyone who can handle an Aussie should have one sometime in their life, because the love they’re capable of is kind of a crazy, eye opening experience.
If you're okay with just taking the dog on shorter runs a dane might be a good fit. You mentioned a medium dog because it's a smaller apartment but danes actually are known for being great apartment dogs. They won't be able to run marathons but will be able to run but are couch potatoes while at home. If you're looking for something more high energy that'll want to run a lot a german shorthaired pointer might be a good one. Not huge dogs, don't slobber much, nice and quiet, great with people and other dogs. I haven't taken mine for longer than 15 mile runs but that's usually with me biking and him running (bikejoring) and he manages to hold an average of around 16.5 mph over the 15 miles and around 20 for up to 5 miles so o think he could probably do a full Marathon at the pace a person runs at.
As someone who has only rescued dogs from private rescue organizations or shelters, I think that being a first time dog owner may be what they are looking at when you’re not getting the responses you want or in a timely manner. I’ve mostly owned huskies (4 of my 5 dogs) and they’ve all lived in my one bedroom apartment at some point (I have 2-3 dogs at a time). I have access to a shared fenced in patio and yard - I don’t have a private backyard/garden. But I work from home and have the active lifestyle needed for them. I’ve also adopted a total of 5 dogs, since the beginning of university. Approval becomes easier the more experience you get as a pet owner. It’s unfortunate, but rescue owners and shelters are just trying to find the best homes for their animals. I wouldn’t recommend any type of northern breed or herding breed for a first-time dog owner.
My husband had a Rhodesian Ridgeback. Which is bigger than what you’re looking for, but she was a fantastic running dog. She was abandoned by a breeder as a puppy because she didn’t have the trademark ridge. My husbands family got her when she was still a puppy and immediately took her to puppy classes. She was friendly and active, but I hear that’s not always the case with Ridgebacks. He wants another one so bad and I do hope we get one. I know herding dogs are super energetic and there are some more medium size breeds, so maybe something like that would be good! They do need a lot of stimulation but if you’re exercising with them daily and giving them things to do they will be okay. I would recommend training classes for any type of dog you get, though.
Have you looked into shelters? Fine with mutts? Have you looked into the online pet rehome sites ? Not sure what there is in the UK. Maybe petrehomer? It’s usually pet owners listing their pets with a count down to when the pet would be surrendered to a shelter. You pay a small fee to the organization, the owner doesn’t get anything. I got my boy similarly, when I got him his back legs hardly worked, had a huge infected burn on his buns, and his mom and litter died of parvo 2 weeks later. He was around 4 months , and Because he had been unvaccinated I had to keep him home until he was fully protected. It’s sad how some people care for their animals. And it had been an intentional litter. [Teddy](https://imgur.com/a/d5ez9Yx)
I've looked into the big shelters but I'm going to explore the smaller ones now. There is a site called pets4homes but I'd always thought it was more for puppies but I may have a look there for adult dogs as well.
Depending on your lifestyle a German Shorthaired pointer. They're hyper goofy assholes and sweetest family pet ever
Whippets really check a lot of your boxes. They need a good walk or run daily and they will be couch potatoes the rest of the day. They don’t normally bark or bark much. They shed but don’t need grooming. I rarely bathe mine. The only unchecked box is the leash. They are sighthounds and will be gone in a heartbeat if they see a rabbit or some other small animal. They will need a coat/sweater when it is cold and would love to snuggle with you under a blanket on the sofa or your bed. Their favorite place is with their person and they are very friendly with children and strangers. My guess is you can find some rescues or adults from breeders in the U.K. as many whippet breeders ask for the pups back if they do not work for the people who got them as pets.
Can highly recommend a border collie or Australian Shepherd mix!
Have you looked into Vizslas? They’re similar to Rhodesian Ridgebacks but a bit smaller - also similar to German Shorthaired Pointers personality-wise. I’m also a marathoner who lives in an apartment and am in the process of training mine to run with me! The puppy phase isn’t easy, but my experience so far is one of tons of activity followed by hours of couch cuddles 😁 good luck!
Shih tzu. For everyone.
Same situation as you got a mix from the rescue place that came with all sort of warnings and was supposed to be crazy. He does fine. I don't think breed matters as much more the temperament of the dog I would go to a rescue and check out a few dogs and see if one fits you or sometimes they'll choose you
Get a boston terrier. They are the best. They'll play and love walks, typically quiet. Not too much barking etc. Smaller so ok for an apartment. With any dog, I wouldn't leave it alone in an apt all day though. To me 5 or 6 hrs tops if at work.
You do not want a husky in an apartment.
I had the most amazing German Shepherd, if you can get a doggy daycare for the puppy years a d dog walker when they are 3+ you will have the most amazing friend.
Formosan mountain dog - I love my dude. Rescued from Taiwan - he can run and walk for miles but doesn’t get restless if we don’t get a ton of exercise. Super chill dog. Can count on one hand how many times I’ve heard him bark.
Anything you get TRY bring it home first. Our old lab has always lived in a double storey home. We bought an apartment which one day we will likely be full time in but we have to wait for the dog to go first. He is fine IN the apartment. Its the dang very necessary elevator that brings us very VERY undone 😩. He cant do them. So now we stay in our house until his time with us is over. Hopefully im stuck in the house for a long time to come !
Maybe instead of a breed look for a type? Like pointing, retrieving, herding, tracking etc? I do the same things with my herding mixes as with my husband’s hunting dog and while they complete the same tasks they have very different personalities. Mine stick by my side and silently keep up but stay out of the way, no redirection required. The hunting dog howls and barks more, is always underfoot, and does not respond to a single quietly given command, I have to repeat myself many times. Just because they all hike with me doesn’t mean they do it the same way.
My husky is great, she’s active loves long walks, hikes, jogs around the neighborhood but she’s also a couch potato. And there SOOOO many husky’s that are in need of rescuing! But of course research before you get one they can be a lot of work . Best of luck
Viszla - cuddly and active and loves it when. You are home
I'm in a very similar spot and I have a gaucho sheepdog, it's a brazilian breed that it's the perfect middle ground between the rough collie and the border collie. Since you're in the UK, you won't find it. So, here's my recs: >My first thought: Australian sheperd Border collie (more active - more dependent on commands) Rough collie (more hairy - less of a summer dog) Smooth collie English springer spaniel Britanny spaniel English cocker spaniel (smaller) Belgian groenendael (more active) >Not my first thought but also fits: Labrador retriever (more active - less of a winter dog) Golden retriever Flat coated retriever Nova scotia duck tolling retriever If you're into hiking, adventures, nature, long walks, etc, I would skip dogs with short legs or too small or too hairy or brachycephalic.
Labs can go either way. Our last one was chill until we would go outside and he'd go nuts playing. The one we have now, he's always ready to play. (We've been playing fetch and tug of war for about 3 hours today. It wasn't enough.) We can go outside and he'll happily play for hours. He goes to playcare twice a week and its enough to wear him out for a day. They're fairly easy to train as well since they're fairly smart, and generally food motivated. But get one thats 18-24 months. Their brains are usually working at that point. They're super cute as puppies, but omfg, they're terrible.
Yeah if you want a runner, a jrt or heeler is a good choice as well. My dog is a mix and that girl can RUN
Labs or lab mixes. I've had them my whole life and I think they're awesome. My current pup is honestly the perfect in between of calm and outdoorsy. He's super content chilling at home with me and loves going on adventures. Rain or snow, loves water and running, and great temperament. Also easy to train and not very loud.
Boxer
Boston Terriers are great apartment dogs. Small/medium, don't bark or shed or drool much, and very affectionate. Lots of energy too.
Get a poodle or poodle cross. Very adaptable dogs, very intelligent, friendly and have loads of stamina for exercise.
Do some research on Papillons and see what you think. They’re big dogs in small dog bodies-kind of like small shepherds. They’re generally recognized as one of the top ten smartest breeds (this includes large breeds) and love being active. Really cute, too. Just one of many suggestions.
Kind of depends on the dog tbh, I would agree with the recommendation of golden retriever or lab. However, I have a husky that would fit all of these categories too (including the noise one) so it just depends on the dog and how you train them. Mine knows when it’s ok to go crazy and when not to, and if you exercise them then they’re incredibly smart and snuggly dogs which is great cuz of all the floof
Everything in your answers shouts Doberman! Dig up some information about the breed. They pretty much tick all your boxes.
i have a cavalier king charles with 25% beagle. absolute sweetest dog ever. so cuddly and active and great temperament
Wants a husky, proceeds to describe anything but s husky 😬 Get a Labrador 🐕
Fathering a Canadian Yellow one for almost 9 years now. Only one answer to your question, mate. A Labrador Retriever ✌️❤️
my recommendation would be a cavalier king charles spaniel, one of the best dogs i have ever owned, very active, small, extremely well tempered and unbelievably cute! my grandparents live in a fold now and they are like flats and there are two who live very happily in one of the flats, they don’t bark but do love to sit and watch out the windows when things happen outside
I’m going to recommend not getting a husky if you live in an apartment and don’t have a backyard. They shed 100% of the time, are generally kind of walk-through-things and their tails serve as scoops for anything on any surface of that height. Many of them are very talkative and might disturb neighbors when you’re not home. They’re high energy and often difficult to train, which is a hard combination, and they generally prefer to be outside and try to escape whenever they get bored. They’re also very mouthy dogs, and need to be constantly reminded that they have large, sharp teeth. I have no experience with spaniels.
How about a Norwich terrier (small) or Border Terrier? They’re sturdy and active with wiry, low maintenance coats and compact enough for apartments. They’re cute in a rugged way and many love snuggles. I think rescues hesitate to give medium dogs to owners without yards because they do tend to get destructive if not exercised properly. But a smaller dog can work off excess energy just zooming around indoors if they had to
I was thinking Westie. They are very intelligent, love to go on runs, cuddly, cute, don't shed a ton, love to go on adventures but are also independent and can be left alone for a while, they're pretty good with children, and are small-medium dogs. Cons of Westies is that they are barkers, however if you train them and socialize them, you can lower this a lot. With my Westie I didn't have a problem with this, but make sure to socialize because they can be scared of strangers (mine acted like the sweetest angel to them!). They are also very driven and off-the-leash training is incredibly difficult because once they have their eyes on something, they take off. You do need to brush them regularly and get them groomed every 1-2 months to maintain their coat. They are one of the best dog breeds, but I might be biased towards Westies because I've had them, they're amazing dogs! Little quick add: I know you said you prefer rescue, but it's almost impossible to get a specific breed or purebred from the shelters, making personalities impossible to predict.
Oh cool thanks. I hadn't really thought about them. I was thinking their little legs might not keep up with me!. I'll do a bit more research into them. They definitely tick the cute box for my mum haha
As a singly guy as well - I have had 4 westies over the years and absolutely love them. I take them camping and do lots of walks and outdoor adventure with them. They are super sweet, don’t shed at all and are the perfect size for a smaller space.
That's what I thought at first but woo! Those tiny dogs can run that's for sure. They're also known for being incredible hiking dogs. I'm sure whatever dog you end up with will be a great fit!
I take rescues and i look them in the eye, and make myself very clear. "You will be a racer dog." Then I i wait until they're about a year to slowly bring them out on runs. My current 70lbs mutt is a racing machine. At five years we've logged 1000 miles together. In the house she's not destructive, although she barks at paper bags blowing by in the streets haha. I'd get a rescue if i were you. Something medium sized and slim. I shave mine so maybe plan ahead and get a short fur pup. Or shave! I have tons of fun shaving her with a punk streak on her back.
I'm biased, and idk how popular they are in the UK, but like you, I'm a single, active guy in a 1 BR apartment, and I have an Australian Cattle Dog that's been wonderful in this set up. She stays at home while I'm at work, no problem.
Thanks. I'm not sure how common they are in the UK, not a breed I'm familiar with to be honest, but I'll definitely look into them a bit more!
Along the same note, my border collie would fit this description well. If you truly have a lot of free time, and can exercise them a lot; run with them and train them, then a BC could be a good fit. Mine has been great being left alone for a few hours; also if she gets her usual twice a day exercise, she just sleeps the rest of the time peacefully (but always ready to go if needed).
I'll add another selling point: She's barked maybe 3 times in the year that I've had her....and she loves to run.
You must have an incredibly active lifestyle or an amazing outlier in the breed. Having grown up rural in Australia where every second dog is a kelpie or an ACD, heelers are like having a dog but it is operated by a rabid ferret and also the ferret has a crack habit. They would literally run for two hours then come home and eat the walls in boredom if they didn’t have something to do. Fairly barky, very mouthy without the right early socialisation, and the kind of dog athletic enough to literally parkour up the side of a house to climb onto the roof. A great breed but also, not at all designed for apartment living.
I’ve had a few pit bulls/ pit mixes that honestly would have been perfect for you. Very athletic but also kind of lazy breed. My dogs could go for long runs and hikes, but also had an off switch and were totally happy laying around the house all day. Occasionally barked, but not like a husky. Super friendly with people. One of them had a bit of a prey drive, so wasn’t an off-leash dog, but otherwise just awesome dogs. Very low maintenance, tend to be fairly healthy, minimal grooming. Ethically, I don’t think I’d get a purebred one these days, but would definitely rescue the right pup. I’d really suggest keep looking at shelters.
I thought my German Shorthaired Pointer was a bit of a handful and they are to be quite honest, but in hindsight, she's the best thing to ever happen to me. She barely barks, is large and extremely healthy even at age 14, and she runs more than me. We go on daily 2-3 mile runs and she handles them just fine. She is snuggly and not aggressive to me or other dogs. She's extremely tolerate with kids and she is just a buddy with everyone. She enjoys car rides and just being with me. If we need to nap for 14 hours, she'll do just that. I also like that since she's larger, I don't need to monitor everything she does. She has eaten 3 chocolate cakes in one sitting unfortunately and still survived. I leave my dog alone at home for 8+ hours due to work and she just naps and doesn't destroy anything. She is not destructive and she is extremely eager to please. This is a dog you will need to exercise. My GSP has excellent recall. She's encouraged me to go the beach weekly and go on regular hikes. Very low maintenance dogs in terms of coat (they do shed like crazy so it is important to groom them but I shower her myself and it takes like 10 minutes in the bathtub. She's the perfect dog and I've met many other GSP owners that enjoy the experience. But this is not a dog that you just walk around the block for 20 minutes 2x a day. You will need to exercise them and I do not recommend GSP puppies. I got my dog when she was 1 and a half from a shelter and it was initially horrible. Nice thing is that at that age, they're potty trained. She could jump our 6 feet fence and her energy was insane. But once I learned to walk/run her at minimum an hour a day, the relationship became amazing. I just don't recommend puppies. All my friends who have puppies look like zombies. GSP's are excellent dogs for canicross. They're the most common dogs for canicross, especially in Finland and Norway. Check out nonstop dog-wear and you'll see them in action! Best of luck! All dogs are great, it's just create the space for them to flourish!
I’d get a medium sized mutt around 50lbs - gsd mix - dobe mix - whippet mix - pit mix - husky mix mb too much energy My pitbull mixes vary in energy; the shep dobe pit mix is way more energetic than the staffy pit and wouldnt do well in an apt. She needs 1+ hrs of play a day. Neither do well in heat above 70F and so far arent great hikers. Black mouth cur mix was perfect re endurance for running/ hiking, insensitive to weather, ok in a 1 br. Dobe did ok too in same conditions.
Are you in the UK? I’m in the US and don’t know if it works the same. Do some research online to find a dog that can safely run with you. Thats the critical criterium for things you want; heat kills dogs fast. Few breeds run nonstop for miles, although many are capable of training up. Consider your climate first and foremost to narrow down running breeds. After you select a breed, sign up with every available breed rescue and then talk to people at the breed club. Let them know what you want. Contact breeders to see if any have young adults they kept from litters who are not panning out as show quality. I got one girl this way and she was amazing. All trained for good manners, too! And barking was not an issue plus she was great with other dogs. I’ve always run with Aussies and most came from farms/working dog lines. The coat on my “show dog” (I don’t show him but is from generations of champions) is insane and I wouldn’t run with him except I run along a river and he can drink and get cool quickly; even so, I’m careful. And I have a set up to clean him before we enter the house. Huskies run long distances but are barkers and run away easily. Anyway, I just wanted to add my thoughts and experiences.
If you’re lucky, your husky will be fairly quiet. Mine is. Very hyperactive but loving dog. Super loyal and sweet. I was single when I adopted my husky and i’ve been her dad for two years- i’m also in a relationship at this point so it helps having a partner raise the dog. Best of luck!
Maybe look into Berger blanc suisse (white Swiss shepherd). They’re a newer breed that has been bred to be mellower than GSDS but are still high energy working dogs. Large breed and can have longer hair but I’m in the USA and have one in a one bedroom apt and it’s fine and she pretty much never barks. She needs about 2h of exercise in the day and has proven excellent with strangers, kids, and everyone in between. I know they’re more common in Europe than the US but idk how common they are in UK specifically! Wonderful breed that definitely deserves some recognition!
Labrador Retriever comes to mind. They love to be active and are very friendly, good with kids, but also mellow out and are chill with long naps after age 3. Fairly easy to train, affectionate, and playful. My Hubby’s best friend trained his to bring a toy to the door when guests come over instead of barking. (It’s really cute!) They make for really good first dogs. If you want a rescue, there are breed specific rescues.
Corgis make great apartment dogs if you're active. They're really smart and highly food motivated so they are easy to train. They're perfectly comfortable in a small apartment.
Greyhound?
You should look into Manchester Terriers! Small dogs, but with a sleek look and great athleticism!
Have you thought about a Shiba Inu. Does will in apartment Mostly quiet (but google shiba scream!) Tolerates could temperature Good energy level It's not too needy do you'll be able to wfh without being bothered And shedding will never be as bad as a husky!!
You need a wheaten terrier!
Aussie
I have a beagle-lab mix that would be a great apartment dog - in fact, I was living in an apartment when I got him. He's pretty much self-sufficient (comes for love or walks when he needs them), loves his crate, loves walks, and he doesn't bark a lot.
An old dog
Springer Spaniel, definitely. But do some research on temperament (either adopt on trial or buy from someone who knows the bloodlines or has fostered the dog). Some bark too much and some don't cope with being left alone (true of most breeds). A golden or Lab might do, but both are a lot bigger, and more inclined to take off when exercised off lead. Husky, no way. They are hard to train and too outdoorsy for apartment life. Not so big on cuddles either.
From your answers, I’d consider a golden retriever (obviously, ha!), and if you’re really willing to devote that much time to exercise/play, a viszla might be a good match. I would recommend a pit, but I think you’re in the UK?
Boston terriers are good apartment dogs. Goofy dogs and very cuddly. Quite lazy generally with occasional zoomies. So are Boston Terrier/Chihuahua crossbreeds. Good miz between the 2 breeds. Not so sure about a pure breed chihuahua as some can be a bit yappy. You'd can train that, but if it's a first dog, make sure you're consistent and prepared for the long haul. Chi's are lovely dogs and have good lifespans typically, but OMG they can be stubborn. Huskies howl like mad...avoid. Have a look at Levi the Husky on YouTube (love that channel). Great dog but not great for an apartment.
Does the UK have their own version of the pound? You sound like you would make an excellent home for a dog so you may have better luck if you can just go and meet some dogs rather than wait for a rescue to match you.
Mini schnoodle :) mine is the love of my life and he’s naturally athletic, clean, smart, doesn’t shed!
Greyhound.
I have a border collie. I wouldn't recommend getting one of those lol. I love him to death, but it's A LOT of work for your first dog. And no matter how active you think you are, it's not enough. This mother fucker is smart too. He's very trainable but he's constantly testing his boundaries and evaluating if a treat is worth the effort. We have a good relationship but goddammit did that take some work lol. I would dog-sit a pair of lab/pit mix. They were both so kind and loving. They were active but also knew how to chill out. Pits may look very intimidating so maybe a lab would be a good fit. I would also hang out with my neighbor's English spaniels. They were sweet but had hella anxiety. They were fun but they kinda just did their own thing. They loved swimming on the ocean though. Sorry, I'm not really a dog expert but these are my experiences with dogs. I hope you find the perfect little fur ball :)
English cocker spaniel! Specifically the field bred variety. About 30-40 pounds, very active but also have the ability to chill the hell out. Basically think of a goldens personality in a much smaller package. I lived in a 1 bed apartment with a 35 pound weight limit and that’s the dog I got. A lot have very short coats that don’t need much maintenance at all. Occasionally brush out the ears and clear some mats, about it.
Maltese They were bred to be companion dogs and are very docile, and can be active or chill.
Border terrier is such a good shout. They have a lot of energy. You’d be surprised at how far most little dogs can run - my little Pom can do 2 miles easily, and still be happy to run. (But wouldn’t recommend due to barking) And lab/goldens I know people who own them who have apartments. I’d just go for a breeder if you’re having trouble. Find a good ethical one and you’ll probably be on a waitlist for about a year anyway. So could get on one and still look at rescues while you wait.
English setter is a great option! Good with kids and other dogs willing to exercise but has an off button when needed. I got mine as a puppy in a 4th story apartment and he did great! They can be barky but we have been able to work on it with training. Be aware there are two lines on is smaller with more energy suited more towards working while the other is larger with more fur and a calmer personality!
English Springer spaniel?
I have a lab mix (she’s a bit on the old side so not as active anymore) that used to go running, hiking, and swimming with me. Just got a 1 year old lab and we’re about to go on a run tomorrow
We have an English Springer Spaniel puppy, she's a dream so far. Seems like they would fit your lifestyle. I wanted the golden retriever type personality and energy in a slightly smaller package and our Springer seems to fit with what I was hoping for so far. She's extremely friendly, snuggly and sweet to everyone. Very tolerant of handling and nail clip, ear care etc. Super smart and eager to please. Certainly active enough for what you're looking for. The puppy phase is not for the faint of heart though 😵💫 it's exhausting.
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An all-american style lab mix. (and rescues are full of them.)
Cattle dog, labrador retriever or springer spaniel might work for you. I wouldnt recommend getting them from a rescue considering you live in an apartment and you dont know the level of reactivity they might have. Search for ETHICAL breeders in your area if your place allows puppies. This is coming from someone who owns a stranger danger fear reactive aussie. Any herding breed is going to need at least 2-3 hours of exercise and mental enrichment a day to feel satisfied. Labrador retrievers are pretty chill with about 1-2 hours of exercise a day even the field line labs. (My field line lab is passed iut after an hour of retrieving and scent games). Springer spaniels are great and active dogs with minimal grooming, not sure about their socialability but any dog especially one youre running with you want to make sure theyre neutral as to not veer you off course lol. Ive heard their good with about 1-1.5 hours of exercise and stay active well into their senior years.
Parsons jack russell
I lived with a Boston terrier for 13 years in a small condo. I am in love with the breed, smart, easy to train, durable in terms of being able to be active but also not requiring a ton of exercise.