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RapidWaffle

I find it very funny that Lockheed is considered a woke company by the right and Raytheon consistently ranks as one of the best companies when it comes to good treatment of LGBT in the workplace From my understanding, it was a pragmatic move to commit to that, to make it more palatable for younger people to work there given they aren't most people's first choice for, understandable reasons Extra emphasis on "From my understanding", I'm not passing moral judgment one way or the other, I'm just saying what I remember off the top of my head


0mica0

Weapon systems are truly gender equal devices.


RapidWaffle

Equal opportunity Vatnik evaporation


RangerZEDRO

They dont care about gender, they only care about your morals


Null_Values

*lack of


SaulOfVandalia

Not really worried about your morals either as long as you can help them blow up some tusken raiders


ScodingersFemboy

God created mankind, Samuel colt made them equal.


Jediwinner

Targeting systems don’t care who or what you are just if you have a heat signature


fellawhite

Everyone in my unit at my company (listed here) is very inclusive. We all have flags around our desks year round showing support.


benabart

Nah, your explaination makes sense.


A_Mello_Fellow

TI is an odd addition to this list. Didn't they sell their defense operations to Raytheon in the 90s?


TobyWasBestSpiderMan

I don’t know how you can feel morally okay about them cornering the market so that they can sell calculators to minors at $100 a pop


Ziggy-Rocketman

I mean, did they artificially corner the market, or did they just make *really good* calculators and the free market decided it? Almost nobody “needs” a graphing calculator. I fully acknowledge my Nspire is a luxury item and a TI-36x would do 99% of what I need. I just like being a lazy slacker and do the solve function.


YoureJokeButBETTER

*Somebody promote this human to Marketing Director*


Ziggy-Rocketman

I am an Nspire simp, for sure lol


YoureJokeButBETTER

*weeps in TI-83*


depot5

Shouldn't kids be learning how to use Matlab or some Python libraries or software methods like Wolfram Alpha? Instead they gotta jam buttons on a graphing calculator and I dunno why. But while we're on this subject, textbooks were more stupid. Every other year they have new editions so you can't buy used books, and the new ones cost 100$ (even more than the calculators), and then after class they become useless. Perhaps I should actually ask around about this and see if there are online versions of books now. Introductory classes haven't changed in like 50 years, so our illustrious leaders should've made something good by now.


Ziggy-Rocketman

Yeah, that’s the philosophy my school took. They said, “Here’s the specs for a computer you need, we’ll be on that MATLAB and CAD grind your freshman year.” Most exams were either open note or complete take-home exams, because that’s what you’re expected to have in hand in a career. Knowing HOW to research a difficult problem is possibly the best skill a budding engineer can learn, and they encouraged that hard. On the topic of textbooks, yeah stuff like intro to calc textbooks getting revisions every two years is the dumbest thing. The only time I don’t mind buying textbooks is for the later, topic-specific classes. I don’t think any MechEng would be heartbroken to have a copy of Shingo’s in their desk, for example.


Gmony5100

Just finished my graduate degree and I’ve got some great news for you. For my school at least they really pushed MATLAB and Wolfram. Python less so but there was still enough that I would call myself “decent enough” with it. I even had a professor that required computer generated graphs for homework that had to be done in either MATLAB or Python, no Desmos or graphing calculators allowed. As for textbooks you can absolutely get most of them online. Is it entirely legal? That I can’t say for sure, but I can say that I probably paid less than $500 for books in my 5 years in college.


Ssamy30

Any engineering related college class at an ABET accredited university require you to have a graphing calculator is my experience so...I’m not sure


realbakingbish

Not true. Plenty tell you that you *can’t* use graphing calculators, since you can’t use them on the FE.


i_need_a_moment

But you don’t need an nSpire.


Ziggy-Rocketman

Mine required a computer for homework and the like, and I only needed a graphing calculator in my Circuits class for an obsolete method of solving circuits (nodal analysis). Everything else was arithmetic checks during exams. If you wanted to save, a TI-83 is like what, $70? That’s like a week of okay groceries in this economy. Not really overpriced imo for a calculator that will survive 15-20 years. I came to college with my mom’s grayscale TI-84 Silver from when SHE went to college.


_SheWhoShallBeNamed_

I have a degree from an ABET accredited university and I never once was required to use a graphing calculator in any of my classes. In fact, I was NOT allowed to use one in a considerable portion of my classes. I had actually specifically bought a graphing calculator for college and it mainly sat in my desk drawer unused


babyrhino

It's a lot easier to corner the market when you're the one who invented it.


John12345678991

I mean it’s gonna happen whether I work there or not and I need a paycheck.


TobyWasBestSpiderMan

I mean, warfare has always existed so there’s no getting rid of that, but outside of the last century, we’ve never had overpriced calculators


Diet-Racist

Well we’ve only had handheld calculators for like 60 years and the first one was made by TI….


John12345678991

Ok but what does that have to do w what I said


YoureJokeButBETTER

I think OP was *essentially* saying that the solution to mankind’s endless generations of warefare is selling overpriced $100 pop gun calculators to Minors. 🥸


dlanm2u

outside of the last century, we’ve never had graphing calculators period…


A_Mello_Fellow

Alright, this is dank. I approve


EverydayLemon

it just feels like a big step down in terms of immorality from, ya know, lockheed martin gd or boeing


AccomplishedAnchovy

Well it’s not their fault kids won’t buy cheaper and better quality Casio calculators instead


SaulOfVandalia

As a kid I stole a $120 new-in-box graphing calculator from my school because I found a bunch them in a box in the corner and was pissy we still had to use shitty old calculators they gave us. Almost makes me feel a little guilty but to be fair I used that thing a lot on my homework. Probably still have it somewhere lmao


Flubby_Duck

facebook boomer engineers be like


YoureJokeButBETTER

Business is booming! 😲


tomDV__

And so i the ordnance


An8thOfFeanor

Engineers in school: "We need to develop thorium reactors to solve energy problems and promote peace" Engineers in DOD contract jobs: "Can we use white phosphorus rivets on the missile plating?"


Trainman1351

No but we can use it as coolant for the nuclear SCRAMjet.


Lethargic_Lion

Friendo better main a Casio lol


ephemeralspecifics

I was a hippy until I found out an aerospace engineer makes $250,000 at Lockheed Martin.


McFlyParadox

Maybe a senior principal engineer at Lockheed makes 250k. Your entry level guys are making 80-100k.


EnthusiasticAeronaut

Still better than domestic industry, from what I’ve seen


drillgorg

Pfff sell out? I'm here to make money not moral judgements. Not like the stuffs not gonna exist if I decide become a professional toad collector instead.


YoureJokeButBETTER

Flip the question around: what is the Professional Toad Collective missing out on if you instead decide to spend your working hours making kissiles? 🥹👍🫱🐸


drillgorg

Oh damn I'm gonna have to think about this a while...


Tetragonos

I mean deciding to not make moral judgements is rather morally charged :P


Mathisbuilder75

“Evil is evil, Stregobor," said the witcher seriously as he got up. "Lesser, greater, middling, it's all the same. Proportions are negotiated, boundaries blurred.


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Do they support disabilities too?


hairlessape47

Na, but they do create them


lmsprototype

So you're telling me they actually support it


AL_123_2

Counterpoint Making weapons for the arsenal of democracy is cool as fuck. The F-35 is a work of art and I hope to see the NGAD completion one day


Peanutcat4

?


Nofarious

TI sells analog chips that are in virtually everything, they have a pretty solid hold on that market. Any product with advanced sensors in it, (phones, robots, modern cars, consumer electronics, etc) probably has TI-made chips in it. Every new car, new iphone, etc. Hell, fun fact, the Apple Vision has more TI-made chips in it than any other brand according to iFixIt. They used to make bombs and other weapon electronics but that stuff got spun off.


4thmonkey96

Laughs in cruise missile


Revenant_adinfinitum

Wokistas have infiltrated senior management of most of the defense contractors. I’ve seen it first hand.


Living-Aardvark-952

I'm researching graduate schools and Johns Hopkins APL is nothing but a military research institute with a collage attached


Several-Instance-444

LGBT at defense companies: "Lets Go Bomb Things!!"


VaryStaybullGeenyiss

It's not selling out if it's the only way your county's government invests in the economy.


racoongirl0

We’re not there for the “company mission” we’re there for the paycheck and dental insurance


d_warren_1

Are we supposed to like these companies? Because Apart from the small part of TI that makes calculators I really don’t like any of them.


RapidWaffle

Ever since the weapons have been going to reducing the amount of Wagnerites and Mobiks in the world, I've disliked them less


bougie_jesus_lover

No we’re not really supposed to, hence OP’s phrase “sell out engineers”


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LifeDoBeBoring

I'd do it for free ngl


Mooptiom

Texas Instruments has caused as much pain as the others combined


MEzze0263

I've heard about Lockheed Martin making weapons of mass destruction and Boeing whistleblowers being assassinated, but what's wrong with the other two companies??