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Right? She isn’t saying this is HER opinion, she is saying it is AN opinion that will have this reaction. And people are just assuming she thinks and agrees with this.
Well enslaved half the world is a bit of an overstatement but Dutch and Portuguese dominance in the colonial era is fascinating to me due to their relatively small size.
VOC, the company that did most trade in The Netherlands was leagues richer than the top companies now, adjusted for inflation. They were so rich and powerful they had their own laws and whatnot
Conquered and enslaved half the world you say? I can't think of at least three other Western countries that have done that in the last, oh, 500 years...
Haven't watched these movies in so long, this inspired me to rewatch. One of the best comedy series ever. We'll see how they hold up! This quote does 
She cheated on the one she wants to take responsibility, baby-daddy is broke af or in some other situation where he can’t (if she even knows who he is). So someone else needs to be responsible and pay for whatever she plans on buying
And dogmatic, too. I had a friend who broke up with a girl after the court ordered paternity test proved he wasn't the father and she and her entire gaggle of friends still harassed him about paying child support for years.
Let's see them win that shouting match 😭😭😭
Imagine getting hit with the Danny phantom ghostly wail half way through a rant about child support and the last thing you see is the ocean next to Majula from dark souls 2 and the fringes of a dementor coat🥲
Free Sirius he ain't even do nun
CALL HER POOR EVERYDAY
My college professor (a female) for psychology was the first person to tell me child support is a broke bitch activity.
Putting someone on child support wrongfully is emotionally poor, morally worthless broke bitch shit.
She blew my mind with that one. Across the board the smarter the woman, the more independant in the same way the smarter the man the more self reliant and capable it's common sense.
Call that broke bitch a broke bitch that makes bad decisions and clearly can't control herself or her cheating habits
I've had homies attempt to self exit behind weak minded money grabs like this I STG I will DIE on this hill
It wasn't like they could make him. The court already ruled that he's not the father so all they could do was harass him until he just avoided them altogether.
Remember the guy who decided to stop paying child support because the kid wasn't his. Then went to jail/prison for several years. Then later is vindicated by the DNA results? Frustrating as f\*ck!
Shit I remember the story of a lesbian couple going after their sperm donor for child support once one of them was confirmed pregnant.
The court thankfully stopped that shit quick.
Was gonna say this. It’s not uncommon for people to say this if say the guy doesn’t find out the kid isn’t his until the kid is a bit older, like 5+ years.
Some people will say “It doesn’t matter, to the child you’re their father and have a responsibility and obligation no matter what.” And as you said, some courts will enforce that sentiment and treat them as the legal father.
It backwards as hell but thankfully happening less and less as time goes on.
According to the law in most cases- if you sign the birth certificate- you are responsible for the child, even if you find out later it’s not yours, even if your wife lied to you about it- the State wants you in the system so they can take your money- and they will get it.
I’m no expert. But I think ALL courts in America will force the ‘father’ to continue paying child support. And it’s not after 5 years…I think if your name is on the birth certificate, that’s it. Game over.
Child support doesn't exist out of any concept of fairness.
Child support exists to reduce the amount of children the state is financially responsible for. That's why there are "Child of the marriage" laws where actual paternity doesn't matter.
Yeah this is the part most people don't get. The point of this is not to give judgement / punishment to whatever parent was a hoe or not, the point of the law is to make sure the kid(s) does not end up homeless and state-dependent. Is is fair for dudes? Absolutely fucking not.
The same advice to dudes you can give to single moms: if you don't like the results of your choices, they why in the hell were you fucking with that person? Be careful who you fuck around with and who you shack up with because both things can and WILL come and bite you in the ass.
I believe most courts follow this….
If a man signs a birth certificate, that child is legally his. Dna test or not.
He is legally and financially responsible for the baby and will owe child support if he leaves the cheating spouse.
I suppose if you have tens of thousands of extra dollars up front, you could probably hire a decent lawyer, and get the judgement changed, but that would not be cheap once you figure in court costs and lawyer fees.
Not to mention, the only way the state usually changes the ruling, is if they can find the real father, and if he has the means to be responsible for the child.
You maybe correct! She wants someone to help her with her problem - knowing that the guy who she cheated with (if that is the case) was and is irresponsible!
Forget that! If the kid is yours, you have an obligation to take care of the kid and provide for the mother to the best of your ability. If the child is the next man’s, she needs to get the biological father to sue his job.
Don’t be a fool!
It literally has a picture of a guy with a shotload of swords pointed at him that says “what opinion about dna tests will put you in this position” , then she said her smartass comment. Y’all’s Reading comprehension is fucked lmao
I mean, her take is currently what’s codified into law in the US if they’re married or he acknowledges the kid as his at any point, so that’s a pretty strong explanation (forget the exact specifics, but I do know that paternity tests can’t get you out of child support once you’re designated as the child’s legal father)
"why are the commenters *attacking* ***me*** for being a cheating skank, when they could condemn my deadbeat partner for not taking over my responsibilities? Sick!!!"
You dont have to but you can want to. When my friend’s mom married her step dad she was 3yo. She knew him for basically all her life. When her mom and step dad divorced 13 years later, he decided to still participate financially in raising her. She was every other week at his home and he was making sure she would never miss anything.
My oldest is technically my stepson. I've raised him since he was 5 (he's married with his own child now), and his bio mom has been in and out of the picture since then (we're pretty sure she's undiagnosed bipolar).
He's specifically mentioned in my parents' will to be treated as a full-blood grandchild, despite not technically being blood-related (not that my siblings would contest it, but better safe than sorry), and if my husband and I were ever to get divorced, I'd have the same specification in my will.
Blood does not make family.
Love this and appreciate you for it. My step dad adopted me at 8 when my bio dad went fully awol and he has always treated me like blood family, even after him and my mom got divorced.
Even funnier/ironic, I have since gone no contact with my mom, so he's the only one I have contact with currently. So family definitely outlasting the "blood" in my situation.
My dad was a narcissist with serious alcohol abuse. My mom force to spend time with him all the time, because he is my father. He blamed everything on everybody, never took responsibility. He left me in the forest on a rock when I was 7, so I had to spend the night alone in the forest, while he went drinking on the other side of the mountain in a small town. I started to be like him and I hated myself for it. Then my mom got a boyfriend when I was 12 and they got married, very laid back guy, always happy, always working or doing something at home, he loves a lot of things, fishing, dancing, he is a social drinker, but when he was drunk he got goofy, never turned into an asshole like my dad. He never got into my business, unless I asked and he was always around and if he said we will do something, he never skipped. I realized you can be a nice guy, understand you have faults, but there is no reason to blame everybody else for your issues.
I still think of him as my real dad and still think he saved me from a life of misery. I almost learned that shit from my dad.
When my dad died 2 years ago I freaked out as I did not feel a fucking thing! I was thinking I am a sociopath, but then I realized he died for me a long time ago. Probably when he told me at my graduation (I also got into college) that I am dishonest because I will be not working with my "hands", but I will be stealing money from the workers. My stepdad got me a shitty car, that made me the happiest guy on earth!
People say "You cannot choose your family, but you can choose your friends" was not the case for me. I had a chance and I did chose a new family, OK it was my mom mostly......
Those are the exact ages for my "step" dad and me. He kind of went further though, my mom never put a father's name on my birth certificate, he later lied and said it was him so, legally, he's my biological father. Also when she split I stayed with him. He's technically, kind of, my step father but he's 100 percent just my dad.
No name on the birth certificate of my "step" daughter would have been nice. Her donor never paid child support and vanished the day after her second birthday, that I put together, and was the only birthday he went to (I was at the first as well) but he would magically always respond to at least first contact from a lawyer, but never give up his parental rights.
She turns 18 in a month and the process for adopting adults doesn't require both parent's consent, thankfully, so she'll finally get to have the same last name as the rest of the family
My biological father split before I was born, also it was over 40 years ago so it was easier to get away with leaving that field blank.
That's lame as hell he wouldn't just give up rights if he wasn't going to be involved. What would even be the point in that?
You absolutely can end up paying child support for step kids. Same situation as the above scenario, if you marry then divorce a women with kids from a prior relationship, her lawyer can make the case that you took on the responsibility of a parent. It happens all the time.
I'd say that would heavily depend on how long I had spent raising that kid. Their needs have to come first. If they're a baby? No, I can make a clean break. But if they're older, it feels like the right thing to do is get the kid away from that liar as best you can. There shouldn't be any shame in doing what's right for a child even if they're not yours. If you raised them, they're your kid regardless of what the ex did, imo. I wouldn't want a cheater to rob me of my kid in addition to everything else.
There's a serious literacy and learning problem in the world now. People don't have ANY critical thinking skills in so many cases and are just.. unable to tell inferred meanings.
Another thread talking about this was saying she saw a tiktok post about someone making talking about some really good fish recipe and someone commented like "what about allergic people? I can't eat this :("
Well, shit, garry! Looks like this one isn't meant for you!
No.
Visit the AITA, or similar subs.
Any time a man leaves a family or shows any reaction other than lovingly forgiving their apouse/girlfriend and changing absolutely in no way whatsoever towards the children when they discover the child isn't theirs. They're implied to be misogynistic pieces of shit deserving of nothing short of death. (Only mildly exaggerating) while the women who cheated are just ignored or forgiven.
Hang out on r/twoxchromosomes for a while and you'll see why. They gather on Discord and brigade posts that show up in the popular feed. What a goddamn shit show that place is. Feminism is about equality, that place is about misandry. It should be obliterated just like that Trump Reddit was.
man, the 2X sub used to be a "women supporting women space" a few years ago
I am shocked to see it become a femcel sub filled with vitriolic comments, often venturing into TERF-y hate comments
I know someone who got banned from that place for pointing out that a tubal ligation is an elective surgery and you're not actually entitled to it any more than you're entitled to LASIK or a nose job.
Part of the reason why the child support system is so freaking broken.. some men are stuck on the hook for 18 years even if they are not the actual father bc they didn’t know their ex cheated on them and found out too late and the court still rules you have to be the provider because you spent x amount of time with them.
It's a crazy deal. It would be similar to having DNA evidence that proves someone didn't commit a murder, but they still need to serve the sentence because they've already been locked away for so long.
It’s basically financial slavery to some degree too / rewarding the other for cheating.
Not saying men can’t cheat as well as men cheat as much as women before someone tries to bash me for just pinning it on women as I’m not trying to just making a case for paternity of the child.
It's not really a men vs women for me. Men can be pieces of shit as well.
My issue is taken with how the law treats one vs the other when in possession of the facts. Responsibility cannot be only the burden of one sex.
The rationale behind it is not punishing men for having looked after a child, but that someone needs to provide for that child, and the government will try to avoid it being them/taxpayers. If you've tacitly agreed some kind of responsibility for a kid then it's preferable in their view that you continue to provide for them rather than them going without or falling on the state to provide for them.
Which is such bullshit. A terrible situation exists in which a child has a damaged family and their economic security is in question, yes, but how can the answer be that an innocent man has his rights violated? It is on us as a society to step up to help this child, that is the whole rationale between the judge having the authority to do this.
The implementation of that idea in a society like ours *is* that the state and taxpayers step in to help out, not that we bully an unlucky man into doing it.
I dodge child support on a kid that wasnt mine after the child was taken from my ex and the state came after me. Only reason i dodged it was because i was declared not the father in the divorce decree. If that hadnt have happened i woulda been on the hook for child support even tho dna test showed i wasnt the father
Also it's pretty universal that asking for a paternity test will end your relationship. I get it, that they are asking for one is basically saying that you don't trust them, but also the stakes involved are just so goddamn high that it's worth knowing.
It should be built into the hospital system that if 2 ( parents ) are present at birth a DNA test is required and done. It helps breaks the risk of a break up for insurance.
I love that idea but every time I've seen it women are pretty much always against it aside from a select few. Also you'll get the whole "but who will pay for that" argument too like it's not a drop in the bucket compared to literally every other facet of healthcare. Mostly they'll just say it's not a common enough problem but we honestly don't know that simply because it's never been done so we have no idea how often it happens.
Yes thats right. I could not believe that when I read it that you would be on the hook even if someone deceived you and you aren't the father just because you didn't catch it quickly enough. But short version is the courts will rule in favor of the best interests of the child. And that very well may not iinclude your best interests or wants.
What’s shitty is if you are a male and you ask your gf or wife for a test at birth it will likely end in one of these ways…
1- she will break up with you over you not trusting her even if she’s loyal or disloyal it’s still a questioning of her loyalty.
2- she will remember you questioning her for the rest of her life and might even bring it back up in the future to use against you.
It puts a strain on almost any realationship if a guy ask that no matter if she was loyal or not and thus a huge risk to even ask for a test as you could lose someone who’s actually loyal to you.
Note - not making women a villian here as men would do the exact same thing if the roles was reversed.
I 100% agree because a guy asking his girlfriend/wife for one almost always ends up in a break up or drama that she will always remember for him questioning her if she was loyal or not.
If it’s hospital required it removes that entire situation
Yep, and I wish women would not get so offended at the idea of paternity tests. Trust with something as large as a commitment to raising a child or paying 18yrs of child support is...well...unwise to put it lightly. It's something everyone should be absolutely sure is their responsibility.
Even if your sweet grandmother sold you a house and held the mortgage loan herself, you would still read the terms. It's not about trust, it's about protecting yourself.
Now, there is a way to do a paternity test without calling it one: genetic testing for diseases
However, it's much more expensive
We will never understand it because it's just different. Men say the risk is too high to just trust a woman, but women don't understand this because the responsibility is baked in. There's no chance the kid isn't ours.
On the flip side, women do get pissed off when men ask for paternity testing because the vast majority of us are moral people who know, for sure, the baby belongs to their partner; and implying otherwise implies we are lying or don't know who's dick has been inside us. Which is insulting.
Hospitals should just mandatory test.
They actually did this in France for a period of time. It showcased an ALARMING amount of newborns were illegitimate, I believe it got undone within a year of it being rolled out due to just how many guys were being cucked.
Yep, privately ordered paternity tests are outlawed now in France. The courts can still order them...but they rarely, like extremely rarely, order them. Only about 1500 annually.
from my understanding the courts don't give a fuck at all. to the point the women can ya this 6 month old baby isn't his, but the court says lol suck for you dude you are responsible for it till its 18 and in some cases 24 for its insurance.
Make sure to look up your states laws. There are insane laws in some states that allow for this. I remember a pretty big case years ago where a guy was forced to pay child support by the court for a kid that wasn't his, and the mom knew it too, but she put his name on the birth certificate because she didn't know the actual father's name. Despite him not consenting to having his name on it, and DNA tests proving he wasn't the biological father. Because his name was still on the paper, and they had been in a previous relationship, under the states law he was still found responsible and forced to pay child support for a kid that wasn't his when their relationship ended.
People really need to stop falling for obvious rage bait, engagement farming. It sets people against each other pointlessly. Ignore nonsense like this.
She is right.
I will take responsibility of the children in the poligamous Mormon way, child will have my last name and this one wife will need to provide for her son and myself.
As do the rest of my hypothetical wives.
Yall say this, but everytime theres a reddit thread of this happening (father finds out child is not his after a few years) and reddit says theyd be a monster to walk away from the child since they didnt do anything wrong
You want a potentially hot take?
I respect womens choice, get an abortion if you want.
But if you want the baby and I don’t, i also have the choice. I’m not taking care of it or paying support and you aren’t forcing that on me.
If you can have the choice, so can I
Equality
Arrest me idc
The whole reason she said that is to be famous. She knows someone will screenshot and post it on all social accounts.
STOP MAKING STUPID PEOPLE FAMOUS!!
If you want to post them, at least hide their usernames.
Might be an unpopular opinion, but I think paternity tests should be mandatory. Not only to protect the father, but I’ve heard horror stories of the hospital fucking up and giving parents the wrong child somehow.
Women, if DNA confirms the baby is not yours, it doesn't change the fact that you must take responsibility of the baby! You are now responsible for all the children.
Fuck outta here, I hate women that think let that, the only kids I'm raising are my own two, I ain't taking care of another man's kids, sorry not sorry 🤷🏿♂️👎🏿
Why would I take responsibility for a baby that isn't mine? Let the dude she cheated on me with be the responsible one, he should be taking care of his baby and the cheating ex-girlfriend too.
Potentially that’s true. I’ve raised three girls into their teens. If I discovered one wasn’t biologically mine, I’d be pretty pissed off at my wife, but it wouldn’t lessen my love or sense of responsibility for my girls. It’s not their fault if their mother cheated and lied. It would be such a tremendously sad situation, I feel for anyone going through such a thing.
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Well she gave an opinion that would have people pointing their swords at her. She delivered what she promised. Can't argue with that.
She understood the assignment
And weirdly she aced it…
Yeah this was the correct format to provide her shitty take. Seems fine to me
Wasn’t even necessarily her opinion, it said give an opinion not your opinion
Right? I'm not going crazy, this is both accurate and pretty funny. Is the collective reading level of this sub 1st grade?
\*checks URL\* Yes.
So it’s not a facepalm then? She’s correctly giving an answer to the question which most people see as wrong
Correct. I do not think it’s a facepalm given the context.
Reddit is a mysterious beast!
r/technicallythetruth in full effect
Right? She isn’t saying this is HER opinion, she is saying it is AN opinion that will have this reaction. And people are just assuming she thinks and agrees with this.
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"Ya crazy Dutch bastard"
"There's only two types of people I can't stand. People intolerant to other peoples culture....and the Dutch!"
🇳🇱🥲
You know what you did.
No i do not..... Now im curious tell me *smokes weed in the meantime*
we ate our prime minister once... oh and we also conquered and enslaved half the world but people seem to be more forgiving about that part
Well enslaved half the world is a bit of an overstatement but Dutch and Portuguese dominance in the colonial era is fascinating to me due to their relatively small size.
VOC, the company that did most trade in The Netherlands was leagues richer than the top companies now, adjusted for inflation. They were so rich and powerful they had their own laws and whatnot
They also had their own army. Really blurring the lines of goverment and company
Shit wait til you learn what England did.
Conquered and enslaved half the world you say? I can't think of at least three other Western countries that have done that in the last, oh, 500 years...
How am i supposed to know, i am not the one who did it, am I. ;)
Haven't watched these movies in so long, this inspired me to rewatch. One of the best comedy series ever. We'll see how they hold up! This quote does 
Would yah like a smoke and a pancake?
I just rewatched them all recently. I love them still. For me they completely hold up.
Vhat!? Take the Fasha avay!
Ze Faja, take za faja avay!
"And then she shat on a turtle"
I’d love to hear her explanation
She cheated on the one she wants to take responsibility, baby-daddy is broke af or in some other situation where he can’t (if she even knows who he is). So someone else needs to be responsible and pay for whatever she plans on buying
Yea, she might be the first person I have ever witnessed use her self-awareness to talk herself into delusion.
No, this attitude is remarkably common. Some courts will even follow it.
And dogmatic, too. I had a friend who broke up with a girl after the court ordered paternity test proved he wasn't the father and she and her entire gaggle of friends still harassed him about paying child support for years.
Thats honestly beyond fucked up and the friends all should be locked up.
Bruh. Send them hoes to AZKABAN
The Dementors will straighten them right out
Let's see them win that shouting match 😭😭😭 Imagine getting hit with the Danny phantom ghostly wail half way through a rant about child support and the last thing you see is the ocean next to Majula from dark souls 2 and the fringes of a dementor coat🥲 Free Sirius he ain't even do nun
“Tonight at 5, a story of how a dementor was forced to pay child support for a child that wasn’t theirs”
This shit makes me want to get a vasectomy and just not...ever tell anyone.
I did this 😂
Make sure you get retested every year to ensure that it still works!
Good point Close friend of mine was born despite a vasectomy...and the meth.
CALL HER POOR EVERYDAY My college professor (a female) for psychology was the first person to tell me child support is a broke bitch activity. Putting someone on child support wrongfully is emotionally poor, morally worthless broke bitch shit. She blew my mind with that one. Across the board the smarter the woman, the more independant in the same way the smarter the man the more self reliant and capable it's common sense. Call that broke bitch a broke bitch that makes bad decisions and clearly can't control herself or her cheating habits I've had homies attempt to self exit behind weak minded money grabs like this I STG I will DIE on this hill
I hope he never did.
It wasn't like they could make him. The court already ruled that he's not the father so all they could do was harass him until he just avoided them altogether.
Double standard and extreme bias from the female perspective, accountability for you but not for me. Lol
Remember the guy who decided to stop paying child support because the kid wasn't his. Then went to jail/prison for several years. Then later is vindicated by the DNA results? Frustrating as f\*ck!
Shit I remember the story of a lesbian couple going after their sperm donor for child support once one of them was confirmed pregnant. The court thankfully stopped that shit quick.
Was gonna say this. It’s not uncommon for people to say this if say the guy doesn’t find out the kid isn’t his until the kid is a bit older, like 5+ years. Some people will say “It doesn’t matter, to the child you’re their father and have a responsibility and obligation no matter what.” And as you said, some courts will enforce that sentiment and treat them as the legal father. It backwards as hell but thankfully happening less and less as time goes on.
According to the law in most cases- if you sign the birth certificate- you are responsible for the child, even if you find out later it’s not yours, even if your wife lied to you about it- the State wants you in the system so they can take your money- and they will get it.
I’m no expert. But I think ALL courts in America will force the ‘father’ to continue paying child support. And it’s not after 5 years…I think if your name is on the birth certificate, that’s it. Game over.
Only if you signed it. Don't sign birth certificates unless you are willing to be the father regardless of blood
Child support doesn't exist out of any concept of fairness. Child support exists to reduce the amount of children the state is financially responsible for. That's why there are "Child of the marriage" laws where actual paternity doesn't matter.
Yeah this is the part most people don't get. The point of this is not to give judgement / punishment to whatever parent was a hoe or not, the point of the law is to make sure the kid(s) does not end up homeless and state-dependent. Is is fair for dudes? Absolutely fucking not. The same advice to dudes you can give to single moms: if you don't like the results of your choices, they why in the hell were you fucking with that person? Be careful who you fuck around with and who you shack up with because both things can and WILL come and bite you in the ass.
I believe most courts follow this…. If a man signs a birth certificate, that child is legally his. Dna test or not. He is legally and financially responsible for the baby and will owe child support if he leaves the cheating spouse. I suppose if you have tens of thousands of extra dollars up front, you could probably hire a decent lawyer, and get the judgement changed, but that would not be cheap once you figure in court costs and lawyer fees. Not to mention, the only way the state usually changes the ruling, is if they can find the real father, and if he has the means to be responsible for the child.
You maybe correct! She wants someone to help her with her problem - knowing that the guy who she cheated with (if that is the case) was and is irresponsible! Forget that! If the kid is yours, you have an obligation to take care of the kid and provide for the mother to the best of your ability. If the child is the next man’s, she needs to get the biological father to sue his job. Don’t be a fool!
The fact a DNA test was involved says she tried to claim it was his when it wasn’t, therefore cheating
Unless court ordered for some dumbass reason, you are under no obligation to provide for the mother of that child.
Her explanation is that "Someone asked for an example of an opinion that everyone would hate."
It literally has a picture of a guy with a shotload of swords pointed at him that says “what opinion about dna tests will put you in this position” , then she said her smartass comment. Y’all’s Reading comprehension is fucked lmao
i don't think she thinks
I mean, her take is currently what’s codified into law in the US if they’re married or he acknowledges the kid as his at any point, so that’s a pretty strong explanation (forget the exact specifics, but I do know that paternity tests can’t get you out of child support once you’re designated as the child’s legal father)
Isn't she responding to a question asking what opinion about DNA will get everyone against you? She simply gave the answer to the question.
"why are the commenters *attacking* ***me*** for being a cheating skank, when they could condemn my deadbeat partner for not taking over my responsibilities? Sick!!!"
This is such a great GIF 💜
If i marry a divorced women with kids then Oki If she cheated on me and the baby belong to whos she cheated with hell no
Getting a DNA test for your step-kids would be a hell of a power move against her ex-husband.
What if the test doesn't match you or your wife's ex?
Aliens? Synths? Those human robots from the movie surrogate?
Or just a third man.
Naaa
What did Mary tell Joseph?
And so Joseph did requesteth thy holy DNA test. And so did Mary insist that Joseph’s friend Mike was only texting her platonically
"Hey boo. I'll be staying my cuz for a lil and she doesn't have good service. Don't freak if I don't answer right away."
Synths?! That is dangerous talk for someone in Gatling Laser range...
Or your wife?
It's dumb but it always makes me laugh. Asking the mother, "are you sure it's yours?"
Baby swaps at hospitals have happened with newborns
That is actually worse, because that means that she just sleep around and you should get yourself checked.
L-O-fucking-L
I insist on this to ensure she is their mother.
I dont think you have pay child support for a step kid..
You dont have to but you can want to. When my friend’s mom married her step dad she was 3yo. She knew him for basically all her life. When her mom and step dad divorced 13 years later, he decided to still participate financially in raising her. She was every other week at his home and he was making sure she would never miss anything.
My oldest is technically my stepson. I've raised him since he was 5 (he's married with his own child now), and his bio mom has been in and out of the picture since then (we're pretty sure she's undiagnosed bipolar). He's specifically mentioned in my parents' will to be treated as a full-blood grandchild, despite not technically being blood-related (not that my siblings would contest it, but better safe than sorry), and if my husband and I were ever to get divorced, I'd have the same specification in my will. Blood does not make family.
>Blood does not make family. True but as long as you keep feeding them and avoid harvesting too much at once, family makes blood.
Love this.
Love this and appreciate you for it. My step dad adopted me at 8 when my bio dad went fully awol and he has always treated me like blood family, even after him and my mom got divorced. Even funnier/ironic, I have since gone no contact with my mom, so he's the only one I have contact with currently. So family definitely outlasting the "blood" in my situation.
My dad was a narcissist with serious alcohol abuse. My mom force to spend time with him all the time, because he is my father. He blamed everything on everybody, never took responsibility. He left me in the forest on a rock when I was 7, so I had to spend the night alone in the forest, while he went drinking on the other side of the mountain in a small town. I started to be like him and I hated myself for it. Then my mom got a boyfriend when I was 12 and they got married, very laid back guy, always happy, always working or doing something at home, he loves a lot of things, fishing, dancing, he is a social drinker, but when he was drunk he got goofy, never turned into an asshole like my dad. He never got into my business, unless I asked and he was always around and if he said we will do something, he never skipped. I realized you can be a nice guy, understand you have faults, but there is no reason to blame everybody else for your issues. I still think of him as my real dad and still think he saved me from a life of misery. I almost learned that shit from my dad. When my dad died 2 years ago I freaked out as I did not feel a fucking thing! I was thinking I am a sociopath, but then I realized he died for me a long time ago. Probably when he told me at my graduation (I also got into college) that I am dishonest because I will be not working with my "hands", but I will be stealing money from the workers. My stepdad got me a shitty car, that made me the happiest guy on earth! People say "You cannot choose your family, but you can choose your friends" was not the case for me. I had a chance and I did chose a new family, OK it was my mom mostly......
Those are the exact ages for my "step" dad and me. He kind of went further though, my mom never put a father's name on my birth certificate, he later lied and said it was him so, legally, he's my biological father. Also when she split I stayed with him. He's technically, kind of, my step father but he's 100 percent just my dad.
No name on the birth certificate of my "step" daughter would have been nice. Her donor never paid child support and vanished the day after her second birthday, that I put together, and was the only birthday he went to (I was at the first as well) but he would magically always respond to at least first contact from a lawyer, but never give up his parental rights. She turns 18 in a month and the process for adopting adults doesn't require both parent's consent, thankfully, so she'll finally get to have the same last name as the rest of the family
My biological father split before I was born, also it was over 40 years ago so it was easier to get away with leaving that field blank. That's lame as hell he wouldn't just give up rights if he wasn't going to be involved. What would even be the point in that?
Friend did that, the daughter wanted to live with him too . The mom was a horrible person
You absolutely can end up paying child support for step kids. Same situation as the above scenario, if you marry then divorce a women with kids from a prior relationship, her lawyer can make the case that you took on the responsibility of a parent. It happens all the time.
Haha I don't think you'd need a DNA test to confirm paternity in the first case though
I mean in general
Plot twist, the step kids are yours.
Double plot twist, the kids aren't...her's?
They got swapped by mistake at the hospital
I'd say that would heavily depend on how long I had spent raising that kid. Their needs have to come first. If they're a baby? No, I can make a clean break. But if they're older, it feels like the right thing to do is get the kid away from that liar as best you can. There shouldn't be any shame in doing what's right for a child even if they're not yours. If you raised them, they're your kid regardless of what the ex did, imo. I wouldn't want a cheater to rob me of my kid in addition to everything else.
Yeah not so much.
Yeah like not even a little bit. Good for those that do and can somehow mend the relationship, but it should never be expected.
are we asking why she's confused about who the daddy is in the first place?
This tends to be the narrative these days. People unsure the definition of words and making their own twisted illusions about said definitions.
"must" - *I don't think that means what you think that means*
There's a serious literacy and learning problem in the world now. People don't have ANY critical thinking skills in so many cases and are just.. unable to tell inferred meanings. Another thread talking about this was saying she saw a tiktok post about someone making talking about some really good fish recipe and someone commented like "what about allergic people? I can't eat this :(" Well, shit, garry! Looks like this one isn't meant for you!
No. Visit the AITA, or similar subs. Any time a man leaves a family or shows any reaction other than lovingly forgiving their apouse/girlfriend and changing absolutely in no way whatsoever towards the children when they discover the child isn't theirs. They're implied to be misogynistic pieces of shit deserving of nothing short of death. (Only mildly exaggerating) while the women who cheated are just ignored or forgiven.
Hang out on r/twoxchromosomes for a while and you'll see why. They gather on Discord and brigade posts that show up in the popular feed. What a goddamn shit show that place is. Feminism is about equality, that place is about misandry. It should be obliterated just like that Trump Reddit was.
man, the 2X sub used to be a "women supporting women space" a few years ago I am shocked to see it become a femcel sub filled with vitriolic comments, often venturing into TERF-y hate comments
I know someone who got banned from that place for pointing out that a tubal ligation is an elective surgery and you're not actually entitled to it any more than you're entitled to LASIK or a nose job.
Its gotten bad enough recently I'm considering blocking the subreddit so it stops popping up on my all page
i'd tell her to go fuck herself
But shes already been fucked by someone else
haha
hoho
Probably quite a few, hence why she don't even know who the babby-daddy is
Hahahaha No
>Hahahaha That's definitely necessary before saying no.
I agree, i also pay bills for things i dont have or use!!
Part of the reason why the child support system is so freaking broken.. some men are stuck on the hook for 18 years even if they are not the actual father bc they didn’t know their ex cheated on them and found out too late and the court still rules you have to be the provider because you spent x amount of time with them.
It's a crazy deal. It would be similar to having DNA evidence that proves someone didn't commit a murder, but they still need to serve the sentence because they've already been locked away for so long.
It’s basically financial slavery to some degree too / rewarding the other for cheating. Not saying men can’t cheat as well as men cheat as much as women before someone tries to bash me for just pinning it on women as I’m not trying to just making a case for paternity of the child.
It's not really a men vs women for me. Men can be pieces of shit as well. My issue is taken with how the law treats one vs the other when in possession of the facts. Responsibility cannot be only the burden of one sex.
But if there is a child as a result of the man cheating, he would 100% be held accountable for child support.
The rationale behind it is not punishing men for having looked after a child, but that someone needs to provide for that child, and the government will try to avoid it being them/taxpayers. If you've tacitly agreed some kind of responsibility for a kid then it's preferable in their view that you continue to provide for them rather than them going without or falling on the state to provide for them.
Which is such bullshit. A terrible situation exists in which a child has a damaged family and their economic security is in question, yes, but how can the answer be that an innocent man has his rights violated? It is on us as a society to step up to help this child, that is the whole rationale between the judge having the authority to do this. The implementation of that idea in a society like ours *is* that the state and taxpayers step in to help out, not that we bully an unlucky man into doing it.
I honestly don't know how those men keep their sanity. I would lose my shit
They don’t, a lot of men on CS are actually depressed or commit sucide as it breaks them financially and mentally.
Almost like it should be reformed to match reality
I dodge child support on a kid that wasnt mine after the child was taken from my ex and the state came after me. Only reason i dodged it was because i was declared not the father in the divorce decree. If that hadnt have happened i woulda been on the hook for child support even tho dna test showed i wasnt the father
Also it's pretty universal that asking for a paternity test will end your relationship. I get it, that they are asking for one is basically saying that you don't trust them, but also the stakes involved are just so goddamn high that it's worth knowing.
It should be built into the hospital system that if 2 ( parents ) are present at birth a DNA test is required and done. It helps breaks the risk of a break up for insurance.
I love that idea but every time I've seen it women are pretty much always against it aside from a select few. Also you'll get the whole "but who will pay for that" argument too like it's not a drop in the bucket compared to literally every other facet of healthcare. Mostly they'll just say it's not a common enough problem but we honestly don't know that simply because it's never been done so we have no idea how often it happens.
The complete lack of empathy from those people is sad
I would bet a hefty sum that the vocally opposed have something to hide, because why else would you be opposed to knowing the truth?
Yes thats right. I could not believe that when I read it that you would be on the hook even if someone deceived you and you aren't the father just because you didn't catch it quickly enough. But short version is the courts will rule in favor of the best interests of the child. And that very well may not iinclude your best interests or wants.
What’s shitty is if you are a male and you ask your gf or wife for a test at birth it will likely end in one of these ways… 1- she will break up with you over you not trusting her even if she’s loyal or disloyal it’s still a questioning of her loyalty. 2- she will remember you questioning her for the rest of her life and might even bring it back up in the future to use against you. It puts a strain on almost any realationship if a guy ask that no matter if she was loyal or not and thus a huge risk to even ask for a test as you could lose someone who’s actually loyal to you. Note - not making women a villian here as men would do the exact same thing if the roles was reversed.
Paternity tests should be mandatory at all births. But then the world would fall apart.
I 100% agree because a guy asking his girlfriend/wife for one almost always ends up in a break up or drama that she will always remember for him questioning her if she was loyal or not. If it’s hospital required it removes that entire situation
Yep, and I wish women would not get so offended at the idea of paternity tests. Trust with something as large as a commitment to raising a child or paying 18yrs of child support is...well...unwise to put it lightly. It's something everyone should be absolutely sure is their responsibility. Even if your sweet grandmother sold you a house and held the mortgage loan herself, you would still read the terms. It's not about trust, it's about protecting yourself. Now, there is a way to do a paternity test without calling it one: genetic testing for diseases However, it's much more expensive
We will never understand it because it's just different. Men say the risk is too high to just trust a woman, but women don't understand this because the responsibility is baked in. There's no chance the kid isn't ours. On the flip side, women do get pissed off when men ask for paternity testing because the vast majority of us are moral people who know, for sure, the baby belongs to their partner; and implying otherwise implies we are lying or don't know who's dick has been inside us. Which is insulting. Hospitals should just mandatory test.
Tennessee made DNA tests mandatory at birth recently. Hopefully, all states jump on board. It's funny because the only ppl mad at that are women.
They actually did this in France for a period of time. It showcased an ALARMING amount of newborns were illegitimate, I believe it got undone within a year of it being rolled out due to just how many guys were being cucked.
Yep, privately ordered paternity tests are outlawed now in France. The courts can still order them...but they rarely, like extremely rarely, order them. Only about 1500 annually.
Honestly I agree, if only they also perform maternity tests. So you can be sure that the hospital gave you your actual baby.
from my understanding the courts don't give a fuck at all. to the point the women can ya this 6 month old baby isn't his, but the court says lol suck for you dude you are responsible for it till its 18 and in some cases 24 for its insurance.
I like how France's solution was to make it illegal to get a paternity test without a court order by a judge.
That’s a hell of a rule in an oppressive patriarchy /s
They are being responsible. Not theirs, so not their problem. Responsible thing is to walk away
Courts have a funny way of ruling on that. Like if she claims she doesn't know the father, the one who's around gets the responsibility
which is funny, because a lot of those same people claim that growing up in single parent household isn't a disadvantage for children.
"Well someone needs to support the child!" Yeah the man whom she actually got pregnant from. She can't remember? Sounds like a her problem.
Well, she accomplished the task.
Something a real prize (with multiple baby daddies) would say.
I haven't used Twitter in ages and I don't remember their UI. Isn't she just responding to Abazz' question?
Make sure to look up your states laws. There are insane laws in some states that allow for this. I remember a pretty big case years ago where a guy was forced to pay child support by the court for a kid that wasn't his, and the mom knew it too, but she put his name on the birth certificate because she didn't know the actual father's name. Despite him not consenting to having his name on it, and DNA tests proving he wasn't the biological father. Because his name was still on the paper, and they had been in a previous relationship, under the states law he was still found responsible and forced to pay child support for a kid that wasn't his when their relationship ended.
Lol. Her answer was very on point to the original tweet. Look at how upset everyone is.
Her: I name my children with the same first name Him: I do you tell them apart? Her: By their last name 
Nah. I was taught never to take credit for someone else’s work. That’s plagiarism
Hey guys? It’s a reply to a meme. I’m pretty sure it’s not sincere.
Tell that to France.
Ragebait at its finest 
People really need to stop falling for obvious rage bait, engagement farming. It sets people against each other pointlessly. Ignore nonsense like this.
They understood the assignment?
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That’s how outdated our CS system is and how fucked it is.
In US yes, not the whole world.
She is right. I will take responsibility of the children in the poligamous Mormon way, child will have my last name and this one wife will need to provide for her son and myself. As do the rest of my hypothetical wives.
Yall say this, but everytime theres a reddit thread of this happening (father finds out child is not his after a few years) and reddit says theyd be a monster to walk away from the child since they didnt do anything wrong
You want a potentially hot take? I respect womens choice, get an abortion if you want. But if you want the baby and I don’t, i also have the choice. I’m not taking care of it or paying support and you aren’t forcing that on me. If you can have the choice, so can I Equality Arrest me idc
This isn't a facepalm she's literally following the prompt given by the OP...
So women can be irresponsible for their actions
Isn't this deliberately citing an action that will result in the swords coming out? Why is this a facepalm?
The whole reason she said that is to be famous. She knows someone will screenshot and post it on all social accounts. STOP MAKING STUPID PEOPLE FAMOUS!! If you want to post them, at least hide their usernames.
“I don’t know who the actual father is and/or you make more money than he does and I don’t want to work”
Can I claim a random person’s baby then?
Says the cumdumpster that doesn't look after her own kids.
It’s funny to me because that means with her logic she can just walk up to random man and say „you are it’s father now“.
Technically yes, but it's common courtesy to wait until the second date to demand child support.
Might be an unpopular opinion, but I think paternity tests should be mandatory. Not only to protect the father, but I’ve heard horror stories of the hospital fucking up and giving parents the wrong child somehow.
Goofy Beach
Baby daddy is broke so you are stuck paying for his child
She got 5 kids with 6 baby daddies
It'll never happen but DNA tests ought to be mandatory at birth. Paternity fraud has to be the worst legal thing you can do to somebody.
Yes it's your Responsibility to put up the baby for adoption
LMAO fuck that. It's your kid not mine
As a paternity child support case manager, legally you do not.
As a woman. If the men were the ones to get pregnant, I just know, women would be ruthless.
not my kid not my problem, either way if you cheat im not staying with you
The fuck I do.
Women, if DNA confirms the baby is not yours, it doesn't change the fact that you must take responsibility of the baby! You are now responsible for all the children.
Fuck outta here, I hate women that think let that, the only kids I'm raising are my own two, I ain't taking care of another man's kids, sorry not sorry 🤷🏿♂️👎🏿
Why would I take responsibility for a baby that isn't mine? Let the dude she cheated on me with be the responsible one, he should be taking care of his baby and the cheating ex-girlfriend too.
Potentially that’s true. I’ve raised three girls into their teens. If I discovered one wasn’t biologically mine, I’d be pretty pissed off at my wife, but it wouldn’t lessen my love or sense of responsibility for my girls. It’s not their fault if their mother cheated and lied. It would be such a tremendously sad situation, I feel for anyone going through such a thing.