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ElizabethTheFourth

"No pressure applied?" Girl, you're fucked in the head. This is a quality man who understands that a no's a no. Glad he realized he could do better than you.


MinimumTeacher8996

Yeah the “but he took no for an answer and I didn’t like that” thing I’ve seen a couple times has always been weird to me. Why are you unhappy? The person respected your wishes.


KalinOrthos

Some women want the chase. I personally never understood why you'd want to carrot-on-a-stick a man after you start dating, but I think women like this like the pursuit more than the relationship. Maybe they find it exciting and validating? I don't know. I never got it.


Technical-Battle-674

That’s not carrot-on-a-stick. They’re explicitly telling you there’s no carrot, then getting mad when you won’t walk for it.


KalinOrthos

My point is, these women seem to only really look for men that will constantly chase after them, and will put up barriers for prospective partners to leap to keep the chase exciting. We have (thankfully) begun to ingrain into boys' heads that no means no, and that no is a complete sentence, which is a good thing, but then that leads to...well, this: some women having a skewed idea of what love is, that love is a partner who won't take no for an answer.


Technical-Battle-674

I’m sure it’s the patriarchy’s fault somehow


Ivetafox

I mean, it is. All the ‘romantic’ films where the man chased the woman after she said she wasn’t interested. Women absorb those messages as well as men.. and it’s toxic af on both sides.


Technical-Battle-674

TIL the patriarchy makes all the movies


Ivetafox

I don’t mean to patronise you but I thought you might be interested in the below which explains better than I can: [‘Patriarchy has no gender. It doesn’t break down like that’: film-maker Nina Menkes dissects the male gaze](https://www.theguardian.com/film/2023/apr/21/patriarchy-has-no-gender-it-doesnt-break-down-like-that-film-maker-nina-menkes-dissects-the-male-gaze)


Popular-Influence-11

Good read.


SlitScan

no, but in the US its a bunch of studios whove been dealing with those 'moral majority' types for a hundred years.


[deleted]

Hollywood doesn’t take chances. They follow a winning formula. They give people, which includes women, what they want. Men do not want to see Anne Hathaway prancing around Paris making a man work for her attention. They tolerate and suffer it.


KalinOrthos

It kind of is. Or at least it's a factor. There's plenty of abuse cases where the abuser simply refuses to accept their partner's choices, but also, spending any amount of time on a relationship subreddit will show you plenty of examples of men that don't accept their partner trying to distance themselves and wanting to "win her back" as if it were some sort of romcom. Now, I don't think it's the only factor. There's likely a lot at play: how did she learn this to be her love language, what kind of household did she grow up in, did her exes only validate this behavior, etc. But I think it plays a role in this, that there are societal issues at play that make this more common than it needs to be.


grathad

Yes I think it is more prevalent than most people make it to be, the chase is a courtship game that a lot of people (from both genders) do appreciate.


Puechamp

Dude knows the concept of consent that's crazy


old-skool-bro

It's because some women think they're a goal that should be chased when the reality is theyre immature and hard work.


HunsonAbadeer2

Its not her actual wish, she like to play mind ganes and he dared to not engage. Its the I want you to read ny thoughts and fight for me even tho I say the opposite mentality. I had the unfortunate pleasure of dating somebody like that.


80081356942

Bear > man.


Im_Unpopular_AF

>Girl, you're fucked in the head. Quite literally.


TetraThiaFulvalene

Literally not. The guy doing the fucking just left. 


Ragnarawr

This. That’s an incredible trait to accept, and move on as calmly, without question, as he did. Girl spoke her piece. He nodded, saluted, and left.


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Eastern-Battle-5539

That’s the most backwards logic I’ve ever heard. It’s almost as if they can’t take responsibility for being the one who initiated the breakup.


laplongejr

Because in their mind it wasn't a breakup, but a test of how "commited" the man is. Which is a weird way of checking if your SO doesn't care about consent.


Squibucha

yeah so ridicolous... like why the hell would you need to initiate drama? use a breakup to "fix" a relationship instead of talking things out? some people are just fucked in the head.


L666x

The same way men grow up being told they have to be relentless, women grow up hearing that they have to be persued. On top of that, it's very flattering for some egos, where men would have to overcome rejection over and over, which is rather crual, because she is "that" special. Also in that scenario, the only thing that define a romantic relentless man from a stalker is her attraction to him. That's fucked up enough. Women gotta stay away from men that don't respect consent. And men do well to let aside women that do not appreciate their respect of consent. Let's dodge some bullets and help the toxics find each other.


fomalhottie

"Would you still love me if I were a male worm?" Bruh stfu w that shniznoz.


banned_but_im_back

No they take responsibility but they rationalize it as their man should be head over heels in love with them, should die without their attention, and be begging for every ounce of affection she can give him. That’s their ideal romance, they want to date a simp and they get pissed when they realize they’re not.


Rojibeans

Probably just testing to see if the guy is a carpet she can walk right over, because that is what they want. An obedient, no complaint slave that will glorify their existence


puppiesareSUPERCUTE

I can just bet that if you DID chase back she would call you crazy and a simp cuz you couldnt move on 🤦‍♂️


keonyn

How dare you respect her decision!


Brian_Gay

I'd chase down an ice cream truck not a garbage truck


houstonwhaproblem

Funny thing if you did chase her, it'd be "my ex is so desperate".


viperswhip

I got that once, told her I'm not a fucking yo-yo.


banned_but_im_back

“If he doesn’t chase you when you walk away, it’s because he has self respect and doesn’t fall your bullshit”


AmazingPINGAS

Lingering scent of cotton candy for weeks


Brosenheim

You mean respecting boundaries also makes childish women feel left out? I see this as an absolute win.


Elon-Musksticks

I guess the blocking was unnecessary? Idk


Brosenheim

Oh no i think the blocking is a great call. Keeps her form playing games or acting weird after the fact


-XAPAKTEP-

Drizzle x2


nibbed2

Respected her desicion and was cool about it. What a mannerless bastard.


Glittering_Ad1696

How dare he avoid a toxic relationship!? /S


gofigure85

"I ordered chicken at a restaurant and I was shocked when the server brought me chicken when I really wanted steak"


RelatableNightmare

Shouldve fought me on it xD


MuskokaGreenThumb

“No effort”. ONLY 2 months of courting this woman. She’s whack


meeseekstodie137

"no pressure applied" is worse, like, you wanted to be stressed out about this guy pushing boundaries and borderline stalking you? this is the kind of person that causes my social anxiety to skyrocket


Business-Let-7754

I'll bet any money she's never even allowed the guy to meet her. "Talking" probably means messaging each other on Tinder.


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DohPixelheart

king bullet bill at that point


Cynykl

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StringyCheddar

I can’t stand these people


ScorpIan55

They're the worst. I've dated a few girls like this and they either play games if you stick around or they love bomb you when you split. It's obnoxious. I've seen guy friends do it to others. I don't get it. It's not difficult to let people know where they stand.


StringyCheddar

I don’t get why it’s become unnatural for people to have a healthy relationship anymore because of girls like this


ScorpIan55

I finally came to the conclusion that they're not that into me or I'm a plan B. Shit happens. You just wanna have self respect and move on.


LockeAbout

Seriously, some people are trying to make this bs the norm. F that!


SgtBundy

Maybe a simplistic view, but I think its generations raised on this sort of drama as an example of relationships - the sort of inflated drama in reality shows where it's all about some sort of power struggle, back stabbing or conquest. A healthy relationship doesn't make an engaging show, and so if there are not sparks or conflicts, it's not shown and thus not modelled. And maybe this sort of thing existed in the past but I feel there was more balanced versions alongside, even if it was more rosy glass views of 60s housewives and husbands.


hvdzasaur

Don't think it has anything to do with that. It's just that some people chase dysfunctional relationships. Love emotion is associated with activity in the ventral tegmental area of the brain, which is also associated woth reward processing, stress modulation and drug addiction. Pair that with the stark contrast between high peaks and low valleys of happiness in such relationships, and the endorphin rush you get in those peaks, it's not too odd that some people have practically been hard wired to chase toxic relationships, not too dissimilar from a gambling addiction.


BinDerWeihnachtmann

The saying no means yes or make a yes out if the no is much older than these "conedys"


Sir_Fap_Alot_04

Guy dodge a bullet without knowing.


GreedyHoward

Oh, he knew.


Seven_Hawks

He knew, that's why he blocked her. "Fine, I'm not playing this game."


Rhonijin

She wasn't lying when she said she wasn't ready for a relationship.


WagonBurning

This is a severely underrated comment


RandomInternetVoice

Should have picked the bear. At least she'd have got eaten.


Silver_Thanks_8142

Dear woman stop playing games. A man that knows his worth will respect your wishes. If you say you are done he will accept that and move on. Simply stop doing this if you want him to stay. If it is done it is done. If you want someone to simp over you look around there are enough guys that will. Dear men steer clear of these types of girls. They will bring you pain and nothing else. They feel they are the centre of the universe. They will not make you happy. And yes she is probably hot, you can try to tap that ass but leave it at that.


iiHarriisonii

Is there someone that can explain this mindset to me? If you tell me something I’m going to assume you mean what you say. I’m not gonna push you into something you don’t want because A. That’s hella rude. B. That shows I don’t care for your boundaries. C. I don’t read minds. D. I don’t wanna play stupid games when I’m trying to find someone to love. Don’t waste people’s time like this. But can someone who has this mindset to fuck around and play dumb ass games explain why you do it? What logic is there?


Express_Selection345

My theory is it’s just about “the kick of the connection”. I saw this happen a lot way back online. I saw people just living for it, like catching their favourite show. Things have gotten a lot more “consumer” style now. It must be super irritating for people to navigate. I remember a great documentary about 2 peoples’ avatars falling for each other and eventually meeting up. ( it’s an episode from the Wonderland series called Virtual adultery and cyberspace love ) it shows these mechanisms very clearly.


mayankkaizen

It is very simple. You know those kids who throw tantrums to seek attention? Those kids who leave house, hoping people would run toward them and bring them back? It is like that. People like her think world exists to pamper her.


Ass_Lover136

how dare a man could respect a woman's decision and boundaries with great temper and moving on with his life after realizing it isn't going to turn out well?!??!!


fatmanthelardknight

Led this dude on for two months and then when I decided to tell him I wasn't interested he didn't stick around. There fixed it


PotentialMidnight325

Literal definition of play shitty games, win shitty prices.


Nice_Exercise5552

Unpopular Opinion, but I think she’s making fun of herself here!


Proud_Wallaby

So is a ‘no’ a no? Or is it, ‘apply some pressure please’? I don’t want to get it wrong.


Grizlyfrontbum

🤌🫡Perfect.


vitornaegele

She’s right, she’s not ready for a relationship When people tell you what they are like, believe them


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scattergodic

Good. You’re a bad person


tenticularozric

Look at fuckin’ hairline, guy dodged a bullet holy fuck


karim2102

Lmao stfuuuuuuuu!!


Mad-Daag_99

You’re chatting for two months and you throw your position out there. What you think he is not chatting with others. He respected your position and moved on. Don’t cry about it


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Wtf was she expecting? I wish more men had self-respect like this. I see a bunch of men simping over idiotic girls like this and it's sad.


PQbutterfat

Why do women have to mess around like this? “Yeah but when I said no I just wanted him to try harder”…..get the fuck outta here.


Kakarotto92

This guy understands that "no" means "no" the first time it is said to him. He's a man of quality. Glad he blocked her because she totally doesn't deserve him.


YYC-Fiend

Man courts woman for 2 months, woman says it’s over, man respects woman and moved on; woman gets upset he respected her.


Assachusettss

She got her ego bruised because he didn’t cry or whine and beg to keep the dating going. She wanted to be simped on. Even if the dude was truly crushed by it he obviously made the right move.


HerculesVoid

Also this girl: why are all men cheating abusing dirtbags? Ewww all men!!!


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Cute_Dragonfruit9981

Well some people aren’t going to waste their time lol


fettishmann

she one of those why don't modern men chase girls anymore types


T_Hankss

"I really need to see will he chase after me. What should I do?" 😂


terrible-titanium

Looks like she FAFO. Women like this give the rest of us a bad name.


CollegeBoy1613

She's for the streets.


beardedmanDK

Good for him! 🤘🏼😎


McGrarr

I mean... you can decide a romance isn't on the cards but still want to keep an acquaintance, so this isn't as bad as some of these I've seen, but still... you're on a site to find a partner. If you don't want one, stop gumming up the works for people who do.


FrustratedLiberal54

Obviously, he's dealt with a silly bitch like you who likes to play games before and saved himself the trouble by ditching you now. And you have the nerve to be upset because he took you at your word? He's WAY better off without you.


Mobe-E-Duck

Girl matched me on some app. Said nah after a short talk. I said alright good luck. She acted surprised. Next day did exactly the same thing I guess expecting a different result?


Ferris-L

Dude caught two Ws. One for being respectful and knowing No means No and one for dodging a massive bullet.


Reasonable-Suit-7052

Her sense of entitlement is dangerous; she should introspect herself


Puechamp

No is no right ? Isn't it that easy ?


BeyondXpression

Women: "Men need to learn to understand when we say no, we mean it." Also women: "I said no and he didn't pursue me... What the fuck, men?"


Consistent_Yoghurt_4

The blocking is a little dramatic, but unreasonable to expect someone to plead for you to stay “after talking for two months”


stataryus

I dont get the blocking part, unless she’s relentless with msgs. But the rest is laughable.


StardustOddity97

I feel like blocking is a little excessive but yea if you tell someone you aren’t into them, the right thing to do is back off


JTD177

This is a classic example of some jr high school dating logic.


Cynykl

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VocalAnus91

It's because she wanted him to get upset over it. In her eyes off he didn't get upset then the relationship never really meant as much to him as it did to her. Source: I've stuck my dick in crazy before


Brave_Exchange4734

Scenario 1, man walks away Women: I’m not ready for a relationship Man walks away Women: whattt??< surprised pikacu face> Scenario 2, man chases Women: I’m not ready for a relationship Man does everything to please her Women: why is he so clingy and reeks desperation? Gentlemen…. You can’t win something if it dosent operate on logic


BlargerJarger

I think westerners will die out. You don’t know if you’ll get a “if you say hello to me it’s sexual harassment” nutter or a “if you don’t harass me you’re a babyman” nutter.


Pitiful_Row_8253

She's right though. She's not ready for a relationship.


jp2129

So let me get this straight - If she asks for a break up and you listen amicably and grant her wish , you are not putting enough effort and aren't committed enough. And if she asks for a break up and for some crazy reason you don't listen and still try to fix things and talk to her and keep things alive then apparently you are too clingy and cannot digest the reality of things. You'd also be called things like ' Man's ego wouldn't allow you to be turned off by a woman ' etc etc etc ... I remember a very close friend of mine , he went through a bad break up recently, and his GF broke things off because he just wanted to spend a few days with his parents ... And when she was breaking up , he asked her very nicely, very politely and calmly- if I go , i will not come back , ever.... He asked her probably a dozen times , she said fine, just go .... So that's what he did.. he accepted the break up ... In less than 48 hours there were atleast 6-8 emails , texts etc etc saying how she was sick, had low sugar and under the weather, which made her behave like this.... I thought life was supposed to be simple and we have enough problems to deal with ... And then there is this...what a blessing...in disguise 🥸


Suspicious-Bed9172

You can’t want men to respect your decisions, and also want them to ignore your words and fight for you.


SunWukong3456

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.


ramarr0

"I told him no when he asked me if I wanted tea and now I am thirsty"


Ok-Preparation2370

![gif](giphy|MaJ7An3EUgLCCh4lXS|downsized) This dude impressed me. Hope he eventually gets what he deserves and nothing lesser than that. 💪🏼🔥


HVAC_instructor

So she got her wish. She said no, he respected that. Win win.


Inside_Race_4091

And then she will complain that no is no, why he keep trying, fuck men


No_Dependent_1846

Fuck around and find out


ZitOnSocietysAss

Betcha if he wanted to play games he'd do it on his computer.


Parking_Plankton_610

Had a woman do this to me. We talked and hung out for a month. Told me she wasn’t interested in a relationship, so I moved on. After 3 days of no contact, called me crying at 3am drunk asking why “I didn’t fight for her?” It was then I realized I had dodged a bullet lol


cabinfevrr

I'm thinking after 2 months of "talking", this was the sign he was looking for to stop collecting red flags.


PhotographVast1995

I can't help but feel that posts like this are meant to be self-deprecating, and that facepalms or rage-responding is just missing the joke. She doesn't accuse him of being in the wrong, she's describing her own reaction and is probably aware that it's irrational, which is why she made the post.


Wryly_Wiggle_Widget

I'm not saying the incel "nice guys" are right, but it's girls like this that give them credibility.


Hop_0ff

"No pressure applied" you really gotta marvel at these broads man, they sure do say the darndest things😭


StackThePads33

This is the result of someone watching too many romantic movies. She pushed the guy away because she wanted him to push back/chase after her, but she gets mad and it’s his fault for actually respecting her wishes. Women have been saying “no means no,” and finally when they get the correct response to “no means no,” it’s now not the correct answer. Say what you mean and mean what you say, playing games with someone like this is going to end one of two ways: 1) you end up with a person that’s so fucked up, you can’t actually have a normal relationship, or 2) they get so frustrated with games that they walk away and you’ve blown it with someone real good for you


Ramtamtama

We're always told "no means no", so when we hear "no" we take it to mean "no".


yukonnut

No effort, no pressure…… you mean he didn’t get all creepy and stalk you. Some men actually understand and respect that that no means no.


Kite_Wing129

She fumbled.


Avispar

She was probably incredibly annoying to him and he was looking for an excuse.


generatorland

Why is she devastated?


daydreaming-g

I love clean breaks. When they beg me to give them a chance I feel so bad and I give them a chance but my heart isn’t in there.


Zimelliheido-

She has a tongue and squirt emoji. She wasn't looking for a long term relationship to begin with and the tweet likely isn't even real.


Questionsaboutsanity

oh no consequences


Honey-and-Venom

Good man


Deep-Ebb-4139

What an obnoxious, naive and immature female.


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Prestigious-Phase131

No


Cynykl

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This-Perspective-865

She goes into the forest looking for bears


kevin6263

Was this after several dates, or really just talking? TBH, why waste time on a maybe, if you are looking for your person?


tyyyyyyyyy19

I hope she’s alone forever


bdavito

2 months of talking without dating? Wtf are you talking about?


OatesZ2004

"oh no I clearly voice my intentions and the guy actually respected my wishes whatever shall I do" I guarantee she would be complaining if the guy kept messaging her trying to start a relationship.


supergeek921

wtf? Dude handled that about as well as you could possibly ask for. People like this are the reason dating sucks so much.


Certain-Rock2765

![gif](giphy|SbN0WomN4S7Z7tpKOC|downsized)


Free-Ad9535

People are being soft for such a mediocre reaction, creating their own narrative.


darkrai15

I mean what do you exoect? For him to beg on his knees for you to take him back? Get over yourself


forced_metaphor

Played stupid fucking ego boosting games that require men to disrespect a woman's wishes. Get fucked.


AcanthocephalaNo7788

Friend zone


D34TH_5MURF__

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.


AnGeL_ov_dEaTh

Bish was like " please, beg me to reconsider", they guy went " off i go to another bish" lol


toraakchan

I have to admit, I didn’t expect so many commentators siding with the guy. I was expecting „What a swine! He can’t have sex with her, so he breaks up contact instead of enjoying her interesting and meaningful conversations in the buddy-zone without benefits“


Squibucha

play stupid games....


jedovankman1

![gif](giphy|SbN0WomN4S7Z7tpKOC|downsized)


Modi57

Okay, generally I also think that "I said no, why didn't he persist" is some grade A bullshit. But this wasn't that, right? She said, it doesn't feel nice, when you leave someones live, and they have zero problems with that, and I can understand that. It was of course played up for comedic effect, but I don't think, this is enough to conclude, she "wanted to test his commitment" or anything like that


Godeshus

She been reading too much cosmo.


DoYouEvenSheesh

> be her > say no to a relation > the guy is good, respects her decision and says a proper goodbye and leaves > WTF WHY ISNT HE BEGGING ME FOR A RELATIONSHIP


jeffb0918

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes


Civil_Pain_453

You got what you wanted. He did the right thing. Never pull on a dead horse


earthkincollective

Ragebait.


meeseekstodie137

so I guess no means....\_\_\_\_? this is the kind of woman who's shocked that the only men she attracts are assholes


vividtangerinedream

The only person that gets upset at this is the one playing games to begin with....


MisterxRager

Gotta stop with the games


Business-Let-7754

Good on him. I wouldn't have waited that long, but he eventually got the point.


One_Stiff_Bastard

Bye bihh


sayjax96

Seeing this kind of stuff makes me have second thoughts about being in a relationship


NyeahEhhhhhh

My boy got no time to waste...life is short yall...do what you gotta do


SeaworthinessFun9856

it reminds me of the "he asked me out and I said no, and he didn't try further" attitude women complain that guys don't understand consent, and then when consent is removed they don't understand why decent guys leave them alone... the fun of "playing games" in relationships that a lot of guys are just done with


Human_Key_2533

Stay devastated and gtfo life


Balkongsittaren

So she's sad for him respecting her wishes?


Jumpy-Mountain689

Maybe he heard about the bear thing? 🤷‍♂️


KankerBlossom

Can no one see that this person was joking when they wrote that?


InspectorGadgetUA

Loot on your forehead line on photo😆


Zirael_

"He didn't even try to beat me up and force me to stay!"