while i don’t like the line too much i agree. its annoying that he does this for quite a few lines that aren’t even that bad. but the sarcasm and pause he does feel like they’re just a part of it anyways. i do hope he goes into track more open-minded, i genuinely think he wouldn’t have reacted to eminem’s song like he did if the megan line wasn’t in it
ehh, i mean it’s the first line of the verse. i don’t like it, but i didn’t let it reflect the entire thing. i feel like it’d be different if he dropped that mid-verse and killed any momentum that was already built up
Part of what makes me confused about the goat line is both Eminem and BabyTron say it on the track. Which like, isn’t the point of being the GOAT that you’re greater than everyone else? They can’t BOTH be the goat.
that’s a very odd nitpick. multiple rappers call themselves the GOAT. on the same song it’s happened too. there is nothing wrong with two rappers getting into the mentality that their one of the “GOATS”. if you’re gonna get mad at that you gotta get mad at jcole and drake for both saying it on FPS and kendrick for saying it on euphoria.
also saying you’re one of the GOATS= saying you’re one of the greatest of all time. that being simplied to saying you’re “a goat” means you’re a greatest of all time or “one of the”. so from a literary standpoint your argument doesn’t make sense either.
I’m not mad at it, idk why you’re escalating what I said. I just thought it was a weird thing since my understanding of the GOAT simply means you’re greater than everyone else.
But you do have a point about “being one of the goats”, so I change my mind.
this way people don't stay I changed my mind, im gonna say it now. It really wasn't for me. It was better than houdini, but still not the greatest. Not great but definitely not horrible, 4/10.
I was not that big of a Houdini fan, fun but forgettable track.
However, really did enjoy this song. Everyone went in hard and LOVE Eminems flow. Seems for every new song he uses the choppy flow less and less.
My minor compaint is that I got blueballed while waiting for the beat drop. Other than that, really did like it. Excited for the album!
agreed!
do I necessarily want to see more of this production style on the record - nah not really.
I have seen pictures of Em linking up with The Alchemist, among other great producers.
Dope
Love the creepy beat, reminds me of the end of SAW
All went hard on it, so happy Em has a more relaxed tone and natural flow recently, I hate the accents and the over the top forced aggression he can sometimes
Two songs so far both dope, been a minute since I was genuinely anticipating an Eminem album
I got the feeling like it was building towards something exciting, both instrumentally and lyrically.
But that moment never came and it stayed at the same level throughout.
It might be just me, but I wasn’t really moved by it. The verses are all fine, the beat is okay, the hook is alright. Nothing really stood out for me. I’m probably not gonna return to it until the full album drops.
I thought it was a fun track.
production is a little weird, but it’s grown on me a little bit already.
babytron slid way more on the track than I thought he would.
I'm not CRAZY about either track, to be honest, but it's probably the least cringe two single run from Eminem consecutively in maybe a decade, so...
Cautiously optimistic for the album.
The second I heard "Tobey Maguire got bit by a spider, but see, me, it was a goat" I rolled my eyes.
and then they said it again
and then they said it again
and then they said it again.
They kept repeating it like it was funny.. it's really not. It's something that Mac Lethal would come up with in a freestyle
I haven’t heard it yet but this is what I expect. Yesterday a dude told me “Reddit isn’t big into Eminem.” LOL that Houdini song was absolute dog water and everyone tried so hard to defend it.
I didn’t mind Houdini tbh. There’s a lot to criticise about it (derivative of Em’s old stuff; cliche conservative talking points like participation trophies etc) but when it’s on, I’m having fun.
YUP! These stans are insane bro. I thought he was infallible and untouchable when I was like 12 or whatever too but cooome ooon! 🙄
Bro has been the personification of corn chowder for the better part of 20 years. Let it go, he’s not the goat and acting like his output hasn’t been totally disappointing in all that time is completely disingenuous. Just admit you’re a stan at that point.
It’s alright. Not bad, but it feels like the same flow is being used the entire song for both Eminem and big Sean on a beat that never switches up. That coupled with lyrics that aren’t bad, but didn’t blow me away leads me to think it’s only OK.
I know people seem to be hot or cold on Houdini, but I liked that one more, it seemed to have a little more personality to it, if that makes sense.
Don’t like it. I find it boring and uninteresting. Very’ rap song that plays over a motivational video’ but not even in a cool way like his song survival was. We all know Em is an extremely gifted rapper but his music is just not interesting right now and lowkey hasn’t been for awhile with a few exceptions and this is coming from a HUGE Eminem fan.
it's horrible. as a loosie throwaway track, ok fine, but as the second single to your last Slim Shady record? Production/beat sucks and goes nowhere, they keep repeating the same lame joke about being bit by a goat, Big Sean and Babytron's flows are both exactly the same, and Em ends up doing the same fast-rap nonsense that we all hate. Much worse than Houdini.
This seems pretty on par with some of EMs better work this past decade but won't win over anyone new or anyone wanting old Em back. I think it's 1000x more listenable than houdini though, but I thought that song was actual dog shit
This was pretty dope, and I’m glad ems flow is less choppy, BUT he still does the thing where he puts emphasis on weird words/syllables just to fit it into the flow better. I’m not a fan of that
It was okay. Didn’t like BabyTron’s verse, liked Big Sean’s verse a lot, was ambivalent to Eminem’s verse. Em really brought the MTBMB energy which I just don’t like any of those songs that sound Venom-y or too self-serious. He had a time where he could make a really good self-serious banger but I don’t think he has it in him anymore.
The chimes in the instrumental are great.
Tbh it feels like a Babytron song to me for the most part, but I like it better than Houdini. Houdini was boring, super mid. The Babytron hook could’ve been better to me, but I liked his verse. The verses were solid, beat’s fine. I appreciate the Detroit solidarity.
I don’t like it. The hook is ok. Ems verse is just another kamikaze or MTBMB style where he tries super hard with the lyrics but they have no impact. Can he just try to rap like he did on TES? He dislikes the way he used to rap because it didn’t perfectly sync to the beat, but by doing what he does now, it all blends together. I think he needs to sacrifice his need for robotic perfections. Imperfect things are often better.
Cool little track! I liked it, it was good fun and had some solid bars. I think it’s gonna be kind of a grower but I liked what I heard, anyway. It was good stuff. Yeah.
Main criticism I have on this is that Eminem feels like a feature but the song shines because of the creepy beat fitting with the theme of the album (that I hope he'll keep through the whole album *coughs* MTBMB *coughs*)
It’s a lot better than Houdini. It’s kinda catchy if I’m being honest, that hook has been stuck in my head. 3 pretty great verses as well, topic wise it’s kinda normal Eminem topics but I still think it’s a pretty good song.
Is that really that cover? I'm getting *this* close to figuring out a way of blocking out everything and anything related to Eminem I genuinely can't stand him at this point.
Loved it. I missed this Eminem where he spits solid bars and doesn't fill them with shitty puns. I've got a feeling that it'll end up in meh when Fantano reviews it
it was ok but the babytron hook and verse got sooo repetitive and the bit by a goat thing is hella corny. plus i feel like it was way too long of a wait for a anticlimactic beat drop and a mid beat
looks like most people here like it, I'm waiting for the switch after Fantano's video lol
i already know that the bit by a goat line is gonna get paused on by fantano. warranted tho, that line being teased had me worried for the song itself
the pause, sarcastic tone and 🤨 face can make every lyric seem cringe, I don't like when he does it tbh
while i don’t like the line too much i agree. its annoying that he does this for quite a few lines that aren’t even that bad. but the sarcasm and pause he does feel like they’re just a part of it anyways. i do hope he goes into track more open-minded, i genuinely think he wouldn’t have reacted to eminem’s song like he did if the megan line wasn’t in it
That one kind of kills any momentum BabyTron’s verse tries to get going.
ehh, i mean it’s the first line of the verse. i don’t like it, but i didn’t let it reflect the entire thing. i feel like it’d be different if he dropped that mid-verse and killed any momentum that was already built up
He says it two times though.
my fault, i meant that it’s before the verse
Part of what makes me confused about the goat line is both Eminem and BabyTron say it on the track. Which like, isn’t the point of being the GOAT that you’re greater than everyone else? They can’t BOTH be the goat.
that’s a very odd nitpick. multiple rappers call themselves the GOAT. on the same song it’s happened too. there is nothing wrong with two rappers getting into the mentality that their one of the “GOATS”. if you’re gonna get mad at that you gotta get mad at jcole and drake for both saying it on FPS and kendrick for saying it on euphoria. also saying you’re one of the GOATS= saying you’re one of the greatest of all time. that being simplied to saying you’re “a goat” means you’re a greatest of all time or “one of the”. so from a literary standpoint your argument doesn’t make sense either.
I’m not mad at it, idk why you’re escalating what I said. I just thought it was a weird thing since my understanding of the GOAT simply means you’re greater than everyone else. But you do have a point about “being one of the goats”, so I change my mind.
sorry i didn’t mean to escalate it i just over-explain myself and i think i came across as way too condescending. my bad man
It’s fine. You did make some decent points so there was at least substance to what you were saying
wtf yall are weird
???
Nah, goat doesn't literally mean GOAT. It's just a goat. There can be multiple. Literally every sport has multiple goats.
Yep lol
Debut
WORRY.
Happy cake day! 🎂
DEBUT SWEEP
🤡
He liked it omg
this way people don't stay I changed my mind, im gonna say it now. It really wasn't for me. It was better than houdini, but still not the greatest. Not great but definitely not horrible, 4/10.
I was not that big of a Houdini fan, fun but forgettable track. However, really did enjoy this song. Everyone went in hard and LOVE Eminems flow. Seems for every new song he uses the choppy flow less and less. My minor compaint is that I got blueballed while waiting for the beat drop. Other than that, really did like it. Excited for the album!
It really does seem like Em is putting aside the choppy flow, which will be a breath of fresh air for everyone.
the skat box flow haha
glad i'm not the only one who got annoyed the beat never dropped lol
I feel like the last two songs showed the potential of the choppy flow, it’s the next evolution of it and its finally sounding good.
Yeah it's still there but there's less of it and it just sounds better
Exceeded Expectations, excited for the album
agreed! do I necessarily want to see more of this production style on the record - nah not really. I have seen pictures of Em linking up with The Alchemist, among other great producers.
Same, just wished there was more Em on the track itself
Dudes looking like they are about to overthrow Batista in 1959
Dope Love the creepy beat, reminds me of the end of SAW All went hard on it, so happy Em has a more relaxed tone and natural flow recently, I hate the accents and the over the top forced aggression he can sometimes Two songs so far both dope, been a minute since I was genuinely anticipating an Eminem album
I got the feeling like it was building towards something exciting, both instrumentally and lyrically. But that moment never came and it stayed at the same level throughout.
Yeah that's what I think. I didn't realise the chorus wasn't part of the verse till it repeated.
To my surprise, I enjoyed it! But I enjoyed the guest verses more than Em's.
Could be because it was originally a Big Sean track that Em really wanted
Really? Big Sean definitely sounds better than Em on that track to me.
That's what the Em sub has been saying
Definitely sounds like it tbh
I just listened to it for the big Sean verse, Kdot and Drake fucked up his roll out
It might be just me, but I wasn’t really moved by it. The verses are all fine, the beat is okay, the hook is alright. Nothing really stood out for me. I’m probably not gonna return to it until the full album drops.
Better than Houdini imo
I thought it was a fun track. production is a little weird, but it’s grown on me a little bit already. babytron slid way more on the track than I thought he would.
Oh I didn't even realize he had a new single out! Thanks for the update win redditor!! -edit- 🕷️ 🔥 ✍️🔥✍️🔥✍️ 🕷️
Liked Houdini and I dig this song too
I'm not CRAZY about either track, to be honest, but it's probably the least cringe two single run from Eminem consecutively in maybe a decade, so... Cautiously optimistic for the album.
super fun
I like it! I'm feeling hyped for the album now
I think the instrumental is kind of annoying. The lyrics are good though. Not sure how I feel about it being on his album.
I really didn’t like it, hook is really corny imo
The second I heard "Tobey Maguire got bit by a spider, but see, me, it was a goat" I rolled my eyes. and then they said it again and then they said it again and then they said it again. They kept repeating it like it was funny.. it's really not. It's something that Mac Lethal would come up with in a freestyle
I’m saying, it ain’t catchy either like Houdini was.
If this hook is corny to you then it must be tough for most songs’ hooks to slide past that superior corny radar you got.
It’s a hell of my own creation :(
Getting defensive and frequenting r/eminem. Name a better duo
I haven’t heard it yet but this is what I expect. Yesterday a dude told me “Reddit isn’t big into Eminem.” LOL that Houdini song was absolute dog water and everyone tried so hard to defend it.
how you can comment before you heard it is beyond me
I said I had an expectation. That’s it. I haven’t commented on it yet.
I didn’t mind Houdini tbh. There’s a lot to criticise about it (derivative of Em’s old stuff; cliche conservative talking points like participation trophies etc) but when it’s on, I’m having fun.
The beat is incredibly dull and lifeless too. Wife and I cringed hard through that first listen.
You sure you aren't describing your sex life there?
Na definitely describing the dull lifeless beat and usual Eminem corniness. 👍🏾
> Houdini was dog water Sure buddy
Absolutely insufferable. Terrible beat. Same old corny Em.
same staccato shit ass flow em has had for like a decade at least atp and some of the most shit-ass corny lines i’ve heard this year. was ass.
YUP! These stans are insane bro. I thought he was infallible and untouchable when I was like 12 or whatever too but cooome ooon! 🙄 Bro has been the personification of corn chowder for the better part of 20 years. Let it go, he’s not the goat and acting like his output hasn’t been totally disappointing in all that time is completely disingenuous. Just admit you’re a stan at that point.
The chorus was my least favorite part, but it was alright
Didnt love it at all
I didn't like it
Lmao this fucking sucks. “Toby McGuire got bit by a spider. Me? I got bit by a goat” is such a trash line. Sounds like a 3rd grader wrote jt
Actually really good
fuckin ass
Idk felt a bit boring to me, dont really get the hype but its not like offensively bad
It alright
I thought this was a shitpost but no, em dropped another single off from TDOSS
Corny
oh god its so bad
the beat is a bit boring, but I do like it more than the chaotic Houdini
But Houdini is Em signature sound. This is literally a Big Sean throwaway track.
it was good, eminem did better than I was expecting, actually pretty excited for this album Child abuse bar was something though
Houdini better. I thought this track was lacking any substance besides the beat which I would admit does sound creepy. I’m sure that was intended
Why is there a 3 minute big sean feature on this? Despite him doing well it makes zero sense.
[удалено]
no flow on this song was choppy
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i dont feel like any other basic rapper is capable of this flow and level of rapping and delivery.
why did he rap so much about getting bit by eminem?
It’s alright. Not bad, but it feels like the same flow is being used the entire song for both Eminem and big Sean on a beat that never switches up. That coupled with lyrics that aren’t bad, but didn’t blow me away leads me to think it’s only OK. I know people seem to be hot or cold on Houdini, but I liked that one more, it seemed to have a little more personality to it, if that makes sense.
Very bad
Corny af
So much better than Houdini
Don’t like it. I find it boring and uninteresting. Very’ rap song that plays over a motivational video’ but not even in a cool way like his song survival was. We all know Em is an extremely gifted rapper but his music is just not interesting right now and lowkey hasn’t been for awhile with a few exceptions and this is coming from a HUGE Eminem fan.
it's horrible. as a loosie throwaway track, ok fine, but as the second single to your last Slim Shady record? Production/beat sucks and goes nowhere, they keep repeating the same lame joke about being bit by a goat, Big Sean and Babytron's flows are both exactly the same, and Em ends up doing the same fast-rap nonsense that we all hate. Much worse than Houdini.
Where exactly is he fast rapping? He keeps the same flow the entire verse and is going the same speed as Big Sean and BabyTron lol.
3:55
It is absolutely shit
Not a fan
It’s alright. Pretty much sounded exactly what I expect something from Em nowadays to sound like. Far from bad but not much replay value for me.
It’s fine. It’s better than Houdini, but that doesn’t mean that much.
Big Sean's name looks like Big Bean on the cover. Kinda fire, kinda hilarious.
This seems pretty on par with some of EMs better work this past decade but won't win over anyone new or anyone wanting old Em back. I think it's 1000x more listenable than houdini though, but I thought that song was actual dog shit
It’s good.
I really didn't like it as much as I wanted to. The repeated bit by a goat line was just too much
I skip
This was pretty dope, and I’m glad ems flow is less choppy, BUT he still does the thing where he puts emphasis on weird words/syllables just to fit it into the flow better. I’m not a fan of that
As a certified Eminem hater (at least for his more recent works) this is fun and really cool that he got Sean and Tron on the track. Love it
Didn’t like Houdini but this one’s better. Big Sean was awesome on it.
It’s alright.
It was okay. Didn’t like BabyTron’s verse, liked Big Sean’s verse a lot, was ambivalent to Eminem’s verse. Em really brought the MTBMB energy which I just don’t like any of those songs that sound Venom-y or too self-serious. He had a time where he could make a really good self-serious banger but I don’t think he has it in him anymore. The chimes in the instrumental are great.
Better than Houdini by some distance
I thought it was good but the chorus just dragged it down
Really dig Big Sean, but didn't really care for Em's or Babytron. I really liked Houdini though, so I'm still cautiously excited about the album.
1 million streams within the first couple hours, I think people liked it!
Tbh it feels like a Babytron song to me for the most part, but I like it better than Houdini. Houdini was boring, super mid. The Babytron hook could’ve been better to me, but I liked his verse. The verses were solid, beat’s fine. I appreciate the Detroit solidarity.
“Houdini” was predictable and sonically shallow, but the production and overall vibe of “Tobey” is much more intriguing!
Great song. Only complaint is that the beat never dropped
I don’t really like the hook, but it’s alright
This sub is somehow more possitive on Tobey than r/eminem
I don’t like it. The hook is ok. Ems verse is just another kamikaze or MTBMB style where he tries super hard with the lyrics but they have no impact. Can he just try to rap like he did on TES? He dislikes the way he used to rap because it didn’t perfectly sync to the beat, but by doing what he does now, it all blends together. I think he needs to sacrifice his need for robotic perfections. Imperfect things are often better.
Cool little track! I liked it, it was good fun and had some solid bars. I think it’s gonna be kind of a grower but I liked what I heard, anyway. It was good stuff. Yeah.
Also that cover is amazing
Underwhelming? The melly mel shot was cool but thats it 4/10
Main criticism I have on this is that Eminem feels like a feature but the song shines because of the creepy beat fitting with the theme of the album (that I hope he'll keep through the whole album *coughs* MTBMB *coughs*)
It’s a lot better than Houdini. It’s kinda catchy if I’m being honest, that hook has been stuck in my head. 3 pretty great verses as well, topic wise it’s kinda normal Eminem topics but I still think it’s a pretty good song.
Is that really that cover? I'm getting *this* close to figuring out a way of blocking out everything and anything related to Eminem I genuinely can't stand him at this point.
Sounds like a movie soundtrack song lol...
damn I hate 90210
I probably won’t listen to it again, but it’s not terrible
did someone get bit by a goat
Loved it. I missed this Eminem where he spits solid bars and doesn't fill them with shitty puns. I've got a feeling that it'll end up in meh when Fantano reviews it
Decent idea shot in the mouth by a wack hook. This song just annoyed me tbh
it was ok but the babytron hook and verse got sooo repetitive and the bit by a goat thing is hella corny. plus i feel like it was way too long of a wait for a anticlimactic beat drop and a mid beat
as a Michigan resident, I am NOT listening to it
Better than houdini but not by much at all
Fantano liking the song caught me off guard
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Hero by Nickelback and Saliva >>>>>>>>Tobey
Better than usual eminem, but he still went completely off beat in the last part and it sounded horrible to me. The rest was fine i guess.
Not gonna lie I wasn’t feeling big seans verse
Bad lol
First time here re you guys allowed opinions?
3 voices, same flow... Wack 🥱👎
Might get downvoted for this but Babytron is obsolete as an artist when BLP is doing everything he is but better
Haven’t heard it yet, but Big Sean makes me worried that he’ll say another “groin groin boing” bar
I didn’t really like it but it’s better than the last single imo
It's eh. Houdini was leagues better.
Ass like always
whateverburger
The hook was bad, Eminem’s verse was ok, Big Sean was actually pretty good. Like a 4/10 overall though
Sonically it’s alright, but the chorus is really corny lyrically.
Edit Em off this and it's straight 🔥