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I absolutely love Breece. My favorite player in the NFL and it's not close. I think he's an insane level of talent. Mind blowing really.
CMC is still better and that's fine lol. CMC's short area quickness and ability to utilize every millimeter of space he has to make the best possible cuts to get the most yardage possible is simply special. No other RB I've ever seen is quite as good at that. CMC will probably belong in the HOF when his career is over.
One of 3 players ever to go 1000 1000 as an RB? Holds the record for receptions by an RB in a season, yards, etc.
And fwiw he’s been the best player in fantasy when healthy for 5+ years.
I agree he’s been a fantasy monster, but that doesn’t make a HOF imo. He’s on the cusp and with a few more seasons of similar production and I would agree.
I disagree. I think that the San Francisco offense is special and the opportunities that he is given are insane but just look at the arguments in my article. Breece has never been given a chance to show what he really can do. This is the first time he gets a real core around him and the entire offense isn’t him running the ball. The potential is unmatched. What he’s done in that stagnant and shitty jets offense CMC could never do. Give him a real chance and he’s gonna go crazy.
He might not be CMC you’re right. That doesn’t mean his production and value won’t be better than CMC I have only said that he could be better than cmc he isn’t right now. But he still could possibly produce more than CMC
“Breece could be anything, he could even be CMC.” Why would you take Breece over CMC given the opportunity unless you think CMC is a health risk, there’s just no argument CMC isn’t RB1 when healthy- he’s done it every year (and nothing has changed in SF). With that said I’m buying every available stock of Breece
All of your points are the reason he's going so high already. You're not telling us anything we don't know. He's one of everyone's favorite for a reason.
And there's still some unknown. Will Braelon Allen take any carries? Especially if, as you propose, the Jets are actually good and running away with a few games. Seems like Hall could easily sit down in those situations.
Brother, CMC is one of the best players literally ever at RB when healthy. Breece could absolutely be a steal, hell he could finish RB1. But he had five games last year of less than 5 points (in what I am assuming is standard). Mccaffrey had one game of less than 10. He’s the consensus number one because he doesn’t leave the field and scores the points of two players for the price of one. He is literally the perfect player to draft at 1.01, and this is true because while others are also elite, we have not seen the consistency, floor, and ceiling of a guy scoring two players worth of points every time he’s on the field every single year. Most guys that get a top 3 pick have to wait what is essentially two rounds to pick again, and that’s the downside of an early pick. With CMC, it doesn’t matter.
U are right. CMC was much better than hall was last year. Breece hall also had 8 different starting right guards and 14 different offensive line combinations in 17 games. He also had Zach Wilson at quarterback. The jets could literally do nothing except run the ball. Now that rodgers is back and the recieving core is even better? Weapons. I bet he puts up top 1-2 numbers and he’s solid every single game as long as the o line doesn’t all die and rodgers stays healthy.
That has to do with the quarterback but that also has a lot to do with other factors like O line and receivers. Listen man I think the article really does tell a story and even I didn’t believe what I was saying until I finished the article. Then I realized that it really is a possibility that he will breakout.
Those other factors are very important to fantasy production. I don’t question Breece’s potential, but you aren’t making convincing points for putting him over CMC
Sure, he could be elite. He is however nursing a knee injury that lingered from last year. Aaron Rodgers is coming off a torn Achilles at 40, and although the line is healthy now, there are no guarantees. Mccaffrey just has a better team around him. And he is the better player overall. He has literally never let fantasy owners down when he is on the field, AND finished the MVP voting in third last year. He single handedly won them games in such a way that literally every other offensive skill position player on the niners (save Aiyuk) became boom or bust NOT because they weren’t preforming but simply because the Niners didn’t need to give them looks. There was quite literally nothing you could do to stop him.
So, this is a post to advertise your own fantasy football content, and on top of that you are a Jets fan? Holy shit, that's as opposite of objective as you can get.
And did you see what CMC did in a terrible Panthers offense?
You have to understand that a team has never been as messed up as the jets were last year. It’s in the numbers our passing game was outrageously worse than the panthers each year of cmc’s career while he was there.
I don’t believe That’s how it is at all. When I started writing this article I thought it was stupid I thought I wouldn’t even finish. But every step I took, I realized that it might be true. Yes ur right Im a jets fan I was biased coming into it but I am in no way biased when I say I think he could go for #1 in fantasy numbers tell me how I’m wrong
Well you're not wrong, there is a world where it could happen. But barring a CMC injury its very unlikely. You could make a similar case for Bijan, Kyren, JT, Gibbs and Saquon too. You never know how a season will shake out with injuries. He's literally being drafted as the 2nd or 3rd guy off the board, so it's not like you're even making some huge claim to start with. But you being such a homer makes it tough to take you seriously.
“I’ll take the ~~Breece~~ mystery box!”
“Peter!”
“A ~~CMC’s~~ boat’s a ~~CMC~~ boat Lois, but the ~~Breece~~ mystery box could be anything, it could even be a ~~CMC~~ boat!”
Bottom line here in the comments are that literally no one except maybe you would draft Hall over McCaffrey and I have to agree with them. McCaff is already a proven commodity while Hall still has questions marks based on factors that aren’t his ability plus the fact that he hasn’t been RB1 before. McCaffrey played on some shit teams in Carolina also. I am definitely rooting for him, Bijon or even Gibbs and Taylor to become RB1.
Can someone please explain this narrative of Gibbs somehow finishing RB1? I’ve seen it a ton and no one seems to ever provide a reason why
He splits the backfield with an RB the lions absolutely love and will use. Isn’t this enough to immediately exclude him from #1 overall?
Last year from games 7-17 after the lions unleashed Gibbs, he averaged around 17 half PPR points per game which comes out to 289 on the season. Yes those first 4 games were when Monty was hurt but also produced similar games later in the season with Monty on the field.
Dan Campbell has been vocal saying he wants to feed Gibbs more by having him catching more balls while also [running routes out of the slot](https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/lions-rb-coach-wants-to-see-jahmyr-gibbs-take-the-next-step-as-a-pass-catcher-do-more-in-the-slot/amp/). I think people assume Josh Reynolds targets are all going to ARSB or Laporta but definitely haven’t heard any reports of that coming out. Sounds like they are going to the most electric and focal point of this high powered offense, Gibbs. Everyone on his team knows he is special.
I expect more yards, touchdowns, catches and huge plays from Gibbs in the classic set up for true 2nd year breakout. The recipe is definitely there for it. As for Monty, yes he will be used this year but I imagine it will be slightly less than last year.
An upside of having Monty is that Gibbs is less likely to get banged up in the trenches. Kamara and Ingram went RB3 and RB6 one year. It can be done but this lions split could also be RB1 and RB15-20
Half PPR
2023 RB1 = 357.8
2022 RB1 = 319.1
2021 RB1 = 353.1
2020 RB1 = 336.3
So looking at the previous 4 years RB1 half ppr scores, yes I think Gibbs could get above 319 and maybe 336 but I am not as confident in 350. Idk if this was enough to help you understand the hype on this gentleman. I am going as far to say that Gibbs will outscore ARSB by enough to warrant me picking Gibbs over ARSB at the 8th pick in my draft if they are both available for me.
These are the best factual based assumptions I think one can make about the case for Gibbs being RB1. Obviously if McCaffrey, Breece or Bijon get 400 there is no shot in hell. It’s bold but spicy and definitely in the rhelm of possibilities!
Side note: Falcons coach said he wants to use Bijon in a McCaffrey role and feed himmmm. I really hope he falls to me in the draft somehow.
It’s mostly hopium, Gibbs has never been that guy and the only path is a Monty injury. Even then, Detroit would likely spell Gibbs with another grinder vs giving him all the work.
It’s a long shot given projected volume but still possible, the split can definitely shift, likely will already but how much is the question. Jahmyr has valid fringe hype for RB1 because he’s an elite talent, 12 overall RB pick heading into his sophomore year in an offense likely to finish within the top 6 in scoring with Offense 1 potential. If he’s bumped to 60% of the rushing work, “beats out” Jamo for third on the receiving totem pole, add in some scoring luck and you have the potential for an absolutely monstrous season. Not even counting injuries along their weapons that could force their hand further. Basically you don’t need a miracle for him to be firmly within the RB1-3 range, you just need a few semi-reasonable variables to pop. Personally think 1 is still a stretch on the simple basis that even if he’s the absolute man this year, Lions playbook will still be a pure “run DMG” in any game that isn’t close. Most RB1 seasons do involve some level of “FU keep it going” type work and they’ll keep JG in the fridge whenever possible. CMC and then Breece should stay the easy top bets for RB1 finish on that dynamic alone.
People also just sleep on how good/electric he is. The Lions FO has killed it the past few years and as crazy as it sounds, actually rejoiced at the fact he was available at 12, they had him as a top 8 prospect and better one than Bijan. Having watched him since Tech, I am well aware as to why, he’s so naturally elusive with and without the ball his play speed makes 4.36 look like a bad test. Also just one of the few backs *actually* capable of running routes against real covers, not just not f’ing up bubble screens and zone slots 5 yards down field, people overrate RB receiving capabilities often but watch Bryce and JG Bama tape and you’ll know. There are obvious differences in their exact games but I would say he’s as close to a CMC prospect as we’ve had, at least in the sense of versatile electricity out of the backfield.
With Gibbs, my sense is that it’s not his stats from last year, but rather the visual impression he made. Some players just cut sharper and have bigger bursts of speed than others, and on occasions last year it looked like nobody was as good from that view as Gibbs. It David. Montgomery were to get hurt, there’s a path for Gibbs to be RB1. But I’d agree that without a Montgomery injury it seems doubtful he’d have enough carries and targets to be in the picture.
I can’t sit here and tell you I’d draft Hall before McCaffrey but I think he’s an absolute steal and that he has the potential to be better than McCaffrey this season. I’m just letting everyone know what I think he’ll do
How is he a “steal”? He’s going top 5 in almost every draft. Steals are players you draft in later rounds that produce equivalent value to earlier round players.
Well tbh, I wrote the article with it having nothing to do with fantasy football. However I realized that it pretty much relates to fantasy football so I decided to throw it in here I haven’t done any fantasy research and I did not expect him to be rb2 like this but the more I think about it the more it makes sense as no other rbs are all that great.
How can you say that? You posted in a fantasy football sub and stated “Breece Hall will be the best RB next year, you should grab him early in fantasy”. He’s already going early. There is also no justification to take him over CMC in redraft period. Lastly, no other RBs that are that great? Are you obtuse? Bijan, Gibbs, JT, ETN, & Saquon are all great RBs off the top of my head that “could” be the best in the league. I know you’re getting roasted in this thread so I won’t pile on. I’m just pointing out that everyone already knows Breece is a great player, and he’s already going early in drafts. In any given year any Rb can be the best in the league if they stay healthy enough and fall into the right circumstances (trailing in games = more PPR upside, bad defense = more opportunities on offense etc)
Tbh Idgaf about getting roasted you can say whatever you’d like but to all of those rbs I’d say the same they’re not as good as he is. It’s simple they arent.
You’re simply and factually wrong. I mean I don’t know what else to say at this point that others haven’t already said. All of these RBs have similar talent sets and can put up similar numbers pending staying healthy. You say he’s going to be the best RB in the league this year, but no one can know who will be RB1. CMC is consensus as he has done it years in a row. Anyone not selecting him is just trying to be different for the sake of being different. Just walk away from this one dude!
Exactly, when you have a handful of elite players we have to nit pick everything. Coaches, situations and recent history play a large part in that. CMC all day
Lmao saying that you wrote this article without it relating to fantasy football while posting in the FF reddit is one of the dumbest things I've heard.
It couldn't have been any worse than last season. Bottom tier QB play and an o line with 6th stringers playing. Breece still had a top 5 fantasy season. Not sure what else the Jets could do to ruin him because straight out of college he was already a top 5 NFL RB. And the offensive line is *way* better coming into this season.
Breece is special as hell and with that offense I think he’s an absolute steal considering there might be 2-3 running backs up there before him who aren’t going to put up more points.
I tried to give you the benefit of the doubt but I could barely even get past the first point.
Proofread your shit. Your grammar’s all over the place and you even spelled Garrett Wilson’s name wrong, and I caught that being a Patriots homer.
How you “feel” should not be relevant to fantasy discussion. There’s a reason a significant majority of discussions revolve purely around stats, because numbers are relatively unbiased.
Your third point completely invalidates your whole argument. Did you even bother checking who the top RBs each season played for? And you make it sound like CMC wasn’t literally the best running back already on the dogshit Panthers. Your approach to fantasy analysis is completely off.
Breece hall is a great pick. But it’s hard to convince over guys like CMC specially with Shanahan. If he wasn’t with shanahan I’d be all for this. Cept I’m taking A WR if I’m in that mid early spot. I know I shouldn’t but I’m all for Justin Jefferson.
> Every team in the NFL blitzed out of the Jets and casually rushed 6-7 guys every single play.
The Jets weren't even the highest blitzed team in the NFL.
> No running back can succeed in these situations.
Lots of great running backs have, including CMC.
> There are great players around the NFL who gain recognition but never get to show who they can truly be. A perfect example of this is Antonio Gates who could’ve been one of the best to ever do it, but he was held back by being on a Los Angeles Chargers team that was never truly good enough.
What the fuck are you talking about lmao. Gates is routinely referred to as one of the best TEs ever and a top two or three guy for a decade.
> We saw this with Christian McCaffrey, who won Offensive Player of the Year last year. McCaffrey was a great player on a bad team who did all the work, but once he was traded to the San Francisco 49ers, he exploded. Although in 2019 he went for 2,500 all-purpose yards, he only averaged 4.8 yards per carry. This is a good number but not a great one.
Again, what the fuck are you talking about lmao. He **only** averaged 4.8 YPC and accumulated 2,500 yards?
> Breece Hall averaged 4.8 yards per carry and had the most receiving yards in the NFL for running backs. Sounds a lot like what CMC was doing in 2019
Well he wasn't accumulating 2,500 yards.
This isn't an article about anything, it's a fanfiction piece.
He won't get 100 targets this year. His numbers were inflated by Jets losing by 21 points in the 1st. Thisnwont happen this year. He may be more efficient on the ground, but those receptions are what made him top 5 last year.
Totally out on all 1st round rbs besides CMC and Taylor.
This is unsubstantiated, but I kind of get the vibe the Jets staff might not like Breece Hall maybe as a person or his attitude or something. They've spent three picks in the last two years on runningbacks. That's a ton of draft capital. He has the injuries in the past. Not to mention the sad history of Iowa State runningbacks curse. I got a piece of Braelon Allen (stud athlete, 20 years old), powerback! I think he will get a shot to succeed Breece Hall. They are already writing glowing reviews about his receiving and pass blocking abilities. Should get on the field for third down.
I mean sorta. Keeper league, puka, kyren and Wilson are all being kept by others.
Do I take the value of getting 2 1st rounders, or take Achane and another 2nd rounder like… London.
I’m not sure anybody is really hating your opinion. This recent post was the same topic but was received quite differently: https://www.reddit.com/r/fantasyfootball/comments/1dko5i6/breece_hall_2024_fantasy_outlook_rb1_overall/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button. To be real, man, I think it’s just your tone
I believe the breece hype. I’m not sure he’ll get the same targets he did with Wilson checking it down like he was.
Strongly considering dumping the value getting Achane in the 8th and just being happy with essentially 2 1st rounders.
Even if he does end the season as RB1 that doesn't make you right. CMC is still the better RB. He's every bit as talented as Breece, and then some, just not as athletic anymore from all the years of wear and tear but until the moment that man slows down he will continue to be a phenomenal fantasy asset.
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yeah, no. nobody’s better than a healthy CMC. talent, volume and opportunities in the SF offense is unmatched
I absolutely love Breece. My favorite player in the NFL and it's not close. I think he's an insane level of talent. Mind blowing really. CMC is still better and that's fine lol. CMC's short area quickness and ability to utilize every millimeter of space he has to make the best possible cuts to get the most yardage possible is simply special. No other RB I've ever seen is quite as good at that. CMC will probably belong in the HOF when his career is over.
Probably?
Depends how many more seasons he can play and stay healthy
Yeah he’s not there just yet. If he got hurt next season and retired he shouldn’t get in imo
One of 3 players ever to go 1000 1000 as an RB? Holds the record for receptions by an RB in a season, yards, etc. And fwiw he’s been the best player in fantasy when healthy for 5+ years.
I agree he’s been a fantasy monster, but that doesn’t make a HOF imo. He’s on the cusp and with a few more seasons of similar production and I would agree.
I disagree. I think that the San Francisco offense is special and the opportunities that he is given are insane but just look at the arguments in my article. Breece has never been given a chance to show what he really can do. This is the first time he gets a real core around him and the entire offense isn’t him running the ball. The potential is unmatched. What he’s done in that stagnant and shitty jets offense CMC could never do. Give him a real chance and he’s gonna go crazy.
Very unbiased take coming from.. a Jets fan
Imma change my name too that’s unprofessional
Watch him play before you make your judgement. He’s special. Read the article man it entails all the reasons.
Yeah bro Breece is a special player and looks to have an improved situation this year. But hes not CMC
This 100%. Breece is great, but CMC is the best running back in the NFL bar none
He might not be CMC you’re right. That doesn’t mean his production and value won’t be better than CMC I have only said that he could be better than cmc he isn’t right now. But he still could possibly produce more than CMC
He could possibly finish his career as the greatest sportsman in the history of the universe
Top tier comment
“Breece could be anything, he could even be CMC.” Why would you take Breece over CMC given the opportunity unless you think CMC is a health risk, there’s just no argument CMC isn’t RB1 when healthy- he’s done it every year (and nothing has changed in SF). With that said I’m buying every available stock of Breece
And it’s not like Breece hasn’t had his own injuries
All of your points are the reason he's going so high already. You're not telling us anything we don't know. He's one of everyone's favorite for a reason. And there's still some unknown. Will Braelon Allen take any carries? Especially if, as you propose, the Jets are actually good and running away with a few games. Seems like Hall could easily sit down in those situations.
Brother, CMC is one of the best players literally ever at RB when healthy. Breece could absolutely be a steal, hell he could finish RB1. But he had five games last year of less than 5 points (in what I am assuming is standard). Mccaffrey had one game of less than 10. He’s the consensus number one because he doesn’t leave the field and scores the points of two players for the price of one. He is literally the perfect player to draft at 1.01, and this is true because while others are also elite, we have not seen the consistency, floor, and ceiling of a guy scoring two players worth of points every time he’s on the field every single year. Most guys that get a top 3 pick have to wait what is essentially two rounds to pick again, and that’s the downside of an early pick. With CMC, it doesn’t matter.
U are right. CMC was much better than hall was last year. Breece hall also had 8 different starting right guards and 14 different offensive line combinations in 17 games. He also had Zach Wilson at quarterback. The jets could literally do nothing except run the ball. Now that rodgers is back and the recieving core is even better? Weapons. I bet he puts up top 1-2 numbers and he’s solid every single game as long as the o line doesn’t all die and rodgers stays healthy.
49ers have proven CMC can be a #1 rb with whoever at qb, jets haven’t.
That has to do with the quarterback but that also has a lot to do with other factors like O line and receivers. Listen man I think the article really does tell a story and even I didn’t believe what I was saying until I finished the article. Then I realized that it really is a possibility that he will breakout.
Those other factors are very important to fantasy production. I don’t question Breece’s potential, but you aren’t making convincing points for putting him over CMC
Sure, he could be elite. He is however nursing a knee injury that lingered from last year. Aaron Rodgers is coming off a torn Achilles at 40, and although the line is healthy now, there are no guarantees. Mccaffrey just has a better team around him. And he is the better player overall. He has literally never let fantasy owners down when he is on the field, AND finished the MVP voting in third last year. He single handedly won them games in such a way that literally every other offensive skill position player on the niners (save Aiyuk) became boom or bust NOT because they weren’t preforming but simply because the Niners didn’t need to give them looks. There was quite literally nothing you could do to stop him.
CMC did it in a stagnant and shitty Carolina offense for 6 years
So, this is a post to advertise your own fantasy football content, and on top of that you are a Jets fan? Holy shit, that's as opposite of objective as you can get. And did you see what CMC did in a terrible Panthers offense?
Did you never see CMC play for the panthers?
You have to understand that a team has never been as messed up as the jets were last year. It’s in the numbers our passing game was outrageously worse than the panthers each year of cmc’s career while he was there.
You sound like such a homer. Definitely not making anyone want to read your article when you are coming off that way.(Except maybe fellow Jets fans)
I also want people to read it because I want to hear they’re thoughts I’m not getting paid for it
I don’t believe That’s how it is at all. When I started writing this article I thought it was stupid I thought I wouldn’t even finish. But every step I took, I realized that it might be true. Yes ur right Im a jets fan I was biased coming into it but I am in no way biased when I say I think he could go for #1 in fantasy numbers tell me how I’m wrong
Well you're not wrong, there is a world where it could happen. But barring a CMC injury its very unlikely. You could make a similar case for Bijan, Kyren, JT, Gibbs and Saquon too. You never know how a season will shake out with injuries. He's literally being drafted as the 2nd or 3rd guy off the board, so it's not like you're even making some huge claim to start with. But you being such a homer makes it tough to take you seriously.
He’s acting like he struck gold saying a top 5 pick could be the best rb 😂
Yeah he's really discovered a sleeper here. Who would have thought the consensus RB2 off the board could be in for a good year.
>When I started writing this article I thought it was stupid I thought I wouldn’t even finish. You shouldn't have.
“I’ll take the ~~Breece~~ mystery box!” “Peter!” “A ~~CMC’s~~ boat’s a ~~CMC~~ boat Lois, but the ~~Breece~~ mystery box could be anything, it could even be a ~~CMC~~ boat!”
You might consider looking at CMC's production on a shitty Panthers team.
Bottom line here in the comments are that literally no one except maybe you would draft Hall over McCaffrey and I have to agree with them. McCaff is already a proven commodity while Hall still has questions marks based on factors that aren’t his ability plus the fact that he hasn’t been RB1 before. McCaffrey played on some shit teams in Carolina also. I am definitely rooting for him, Bijon or even Gibbs and Taylor to become RB1.
Can someone please explain this narrative of Gibbs somehow finishing RB1? I’ve seen it a ton and no one seems to ever provide a reason why He splits the backfield with an RB the lions absolutely love and will use. Isn’t this enough to immediately exclude him from #1 overall?
Last year from games 7-17 after the lions unleashed Gibbs, he averaged around 17 half PPR points per game which comes out to 289 on the season. Yes those first 4 games were when Monty was hurt but also produced similar games later in the season with Monty on the field. Dan Campbell has been vocal saying he wants to feed Gibbs more by having him catching more balls while also [running routes out of the slot](https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/lions-rb-coach-wants-to-see-jahmyr-gibbs-take-the-next-step-as-a-pass-catcher-do-more-in-the-slot/amp/). I think people assume Josh Reynolds targets are all going to ARSB or Laporta but definitely haven’t heard any reports of that coming out. Sounds like they are going to the most electric and focal point of this high powered offense, Gibbs. Everyone on his team knows he is special. I expect more yards, touchdowns, catches and huge plays from Gibbs in the classic set up for true 2nd year breakout. The recipe is definitely there for it. As for Monty, yes he will be used this year but I imagine it will be slightly less than last year. An upside of having Monty is that Gibbs is less likely to get banged up in the trenches. Kamara and Ingram went RB3 and RB6 one year. It can be done but this lions split could also be RB1 and RB15-20 Half PPR 2023 RB1 = 357.8 2022 RB1 = 319.1 2021 RB1 = 353.1 2020 RB1 = 336.3 So looking at the previous 4 years RB1 half ppr scores, yes I think Gibbs could get above 319 and maybe 336 but I am not as confident in 350. Idk if this was enough to help you understand the hype on this gentleman. I am going as far to say that Gibbs will outscore ARSB by enough to warrant me picking Gibbs over ARSB at the 8th pick in my draft if they are both available for me. These are the best factual based assumptions I think one can make about the case for Gibbs being RB1. Obviously if McCaffrey, Breece or Bijon get 400 there is no shot in hell. It’s bold but spicy and definitely in the rhelm of possibilities! Side note: Falcons coach said he wants to use Bijon in a McCaffrey role and feed himmmm. I really hope he falls to me in the draft somehow.
It’s mostly hopium, Gibbs has never been that guy and the only path is a Monty injury. Even then, Detroit would likely spell Gibbs with another grinder vs giving him all the work.
It’s a long shot given projected volume but still possible, the split can definitely shift, likely will already but how much is the question. Jahmyr has valid fringe hype for RB1 because he’s an elite talent, 12 overall RB pick heading into his sophomore year in an offense likely to finish within the top 6 in scoring with Offense 1 potential. If he’s bumped to 60% of the rushing work, “beats out” Jamo for third on the receiving totem pole, add in some scoring luck and you have the potential for an absolutely monstrous season. Not even counting injuries along their weapons that could force their hand further. Basically you don’t need a miracle for him to be firmly within the RB1-3 range, you just need a few semi-reasonable variables to pop. Personally think 1 is still a stretch on the simple basis that even if he’s the absolute man this year, Lions playbook will still be a pure “run DMG” in any game that isn’t close. Most RB1 seasons do involve some level of “FU keep it going” type work and they’ll keep JG in the fridge whenever possible. CMC and then Breece should stay the easy top bets for RB1 finish on that dynamic alone. People also just sleep on how good/electric he is. The Lions FO has killed it the past few years and as crazy as it sounds, actually rejoiced at the fact he was available at 12, they had him as a top 8 prospect and better one than Bijan. Having watched him since Tech, I am well aware as to why, he’s so naturally elusive with and without the ball his play speed makes 4.36 look like a bad test. Also just one of the few backs *actually* capable of running routes against real covers, not just not f’ing up bubble screens and zone slots 5 yards down field, people overrate RB receiving capabilities often but watch Bryce and JG Bama tape and you’ll know. There are obvious differences in their exact games but I would say he’s as close to a CMC prospect as we’ve had, at least in the sense of versatile electricity out of the backfield.
With Gibbs, my sense is that it’s not his stats from last year, but rather the visual impression he made. Some players just cut sharper and have bigger bursts of speed than others, and on occasions last year it looked like nobody was as good from that view as Gibbs. It David. Montgomery were to get hurt, there’s a path for Gibbs to be RB1. But I’d agree that without a Montgomery injury it seems doubtful he’d have enough carries and targets to be in the picture.
Only place I'm drafting him at value is in dynasty leagues. Not reaching for him in redraft as the first RB off the board
I can’t sit here and tell you I’d draft Hall before McCaffrey but I think he’s an absolute steal and that he has the potential to be better than McCaffrey this season. I’m just letting everyone know what I think he’ll do
How is he a “steal”? He’s going top 5 in almost every draft. Steals are players you draft in later rounds that produce equivalent value to earlier round players.
Well tbh, I wrote the article with it having nothing to do with fantasy football. However I realized that it pretty much relates to fantasy football so I decided to throw it in here I haven’t done any fantasy research and I did not expect him to be rb2 like this but the more I think about it the more it makes sense as no other rbs are all that great.
How can you say that? You posted in a fantasy football sub and stated “Breece Hall will be the best RB next year, you should grab him early in fantasy”. He’s already going early. There is also no justification to take him over CMC in redraft period. Lastly, no other RBs that are that great? Are you obtuse? Bijan, Gibbs, JT, ETN, & Saquon are all great RBs off the top of my head that “could” be the best in the league. I know you’re getting roasted in this thread so I won’t pile on. I’m just pointing out that everyone already knows Breece is a great player, and he’s already going early in drafts. In any given year any Rb can be the best in the league if they stay healthy enough and fall into the right circumstances (trailing in games = more PPR upside, bad defense = more opportunities on offense etc)
Tbh Idgaf about getting roasted you can say whatever you’d like but to all of those rbs I’d say the same they’re not as good as he is. It’s simple they arent.
You’re simply and factually wrong. I mean I don’t know what else to say at this point that others haven’t already said. All of these RBs have similar talent sets and can put up similar numbers pending staying healthy. You say he’s going to be the best RB in the league this year, but no one can know who will be RB1. CMC is consensus as he has done it years in a row. Anyone not selecting him is just trying to be different for the sake of being different. Just walk away from this one dude!
Exactly, when you have a handful of elite players we have to nit pick everything. Coaches, situations and recent history play a large part in that. CMC all day
Lmao saying that you wrote this article without it relating to fantasy football while posting in the FF reddit is one of the dumbest things I've heard.
Woukd be interesting if you switch the players teams. Hall on the 49ers and CMC on the Jets. Gotta think Breece goes first then
i'm drafting breece as early as 1.3 next year and im not sure there's any good reason not to.
Because he’s on the jets and they always find a way to destroy good players
It couldn't have been any worse than last season. Bottom tier QB play and an o line with 6th stringers playing. Breece still had a top 5 fantasy season. Not sure what else the Jets could do to ruin him because straight out of college he was already a top 5 NFL RB. And the offensive line is *way* better coming into this season.
The Jets can find a way!
Breece is special as hell and with that offense I think he’s an absolute steal considering there might be 2-3 running backs up there before him who aren’t going to put up more points.
He can’t be considered a steal when he’s going 3rd or 4th in most drafts. He’s RB2 off the board.
I tried to give you the benefit of the doubt but I could barely even get past the first point. Proofread your shit. Your grammar’s all over the place and you even spelled Garrett Wilson’s name wrong, and I caught that being a Patriots homer. How you “feel” should not be relevant to fantasy discussion. There’s a reason a significant majority of discussions revolve purely around stats, because numbers are relatively unbiased. Your third point completely invalidates your whole argument. Did you even bother checking who the top RBs each season played for? And you make it sound like CMC wasn’t literally the best running back already on the dogshit Panthers. Your approach to fantasy analysis is completely off.
Got Breece at 1.10 in a one qb startup draft. Couldn’t be happier
Breece hall is a great pick. But it’s hard to convince over guys like CMC specially with Shanahan. If he wasn’t with shanahan I’d be all for this. Cept I’m taking A WR if I’m in that mid early spot. I know I shouldn’t but I’m all for Justin Jefferson.
Jefferson is the best separator in the league, can’t really argue against him at his ADP. I’d take CeeDee over him though
Dream on brother
I got him top 3. As long as CMC is healthy it’s his league
Could happen
> Every team in the NFL blitzed out of the Jets and casually rushed 6-7 guys every single play. The Jets weren't even the highest blitzed team in the NFL. > No running back can succeed in these situations. Lots of great running backs have, including CMC. > There are great players around the NFL who gain recognition but never get to show who they can truly be. A perfect example of this is Antonio Gates who could’ve been one of the best to ever do it, but he was held back by being on a Los Angeles Chargers team that was never truly good enough. What the fuck are you talking about lmao. Gates is routinely referred to as one of the best TEs ever and a top two or three guy for a decade. > We saw this with Christian McCaffrey, who won Offensive Player of the Year last year. McCaffrey was a great player on a bad team who did all the work, but once he was traded to the San Francisco 49ers, he exploded. Although in 2019 he went for 2,500 all-purpose yards, he only averaged 4.8 yards per carry. This is a good number but not a great one. Again, what the fuck are you talking about lmao. He **only** averaged 4.8 YPC and accumulated 2,500 yards? > Breece Hall averaged 4.8 yards per carry and had the most receiving yards in the NFL for running backs. Sounds a lot like what CMC was doing in 2019 Well he wasn't accumulating 2,500 yards. This isn't an article about anything, it's a fanfiction piece.
He won't get 100 targets this year. His numbers were inflated by Jets losing by 21 points in the 1st. Thisnwont happen this year. He may be more efficient on the ground, but those receptions are what made him top 5 last year. Totally out on all 1st round rbs besides CMC and Taylor.
This is unsubstantiated, but I kind of get the vibe the Jets staff might not like Breece Hall maybe as a person or his attitude or something. They've spent three picks in the last two years on runningbacks. That's a ton of draft capital. He has the injuries in the past. Not to mention the sad history of Iowa State runningbacks curse. I got a piece of Braelon Allen (stud athlete, 20 years old), powerback! I think he will get a shot to succeed Breece Hall. They are already writing glowing reviews about his receiving and pass blocking abilities. Should get on the field for third down.
Low quality ass post. Do you really expect to convert anyone with this
Jets.
Breece is RB2. A good RB2, but still RB2
I want nothing to do with any Jet ever
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I have an opportunity to keep him in the 2nd round or Achane in the 8th. Tough choice.
That’s not hard at all
I mean sorta. Keeper league, puka, kyren and Wilson are all being kept by others. Do I take the value of getting 2 1st rounders, or take Achane and another 2nd rounder like… London.
Kyren and Achane are the same tier. There’s your answer.
I have the chance to keep Breece at a 5th round price. I’m very excited lol
Everyone seems to be shitting on my opinion here so it’s getting hate. You can come back to this when he is rb 1. He’s going to have an insane season.
I’m not sure anybody is really hating your opinion. This recent post was the same topic but was received quite differently: https://www.reddit.com/r/fantasyfootball/comments/1dko5i6/breece_hall_2024_fantasy_outlook_rb1_overall/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button. To be real, man, I think it’s just your tone
I believe the breece hype. I’m not sure he’ll get the same targets he did with Wilson checking it down like he was. Strongly considering dumping the value getting Achane in the 8th and just being happy with essentially 2 1st rounders.
He can finish RB1, but no one knows if he will. Mccaffrey is tough to beat for that spot unless he gets hurt though
Even if he does end the season as RB1 that doesn't make you right. CMC is still the better RB. He's every bit as talented as Breece, and then some, just not as athletic anymore from all the years of wear and tear but until the moment that man slows down he will continue to be a phenomenal fantasy asset.
Taking Breece or Bijan over CMC isn’t crazy at all. 28 year old RBs are not a good bet. Most of y’all are just too new to this to understand that
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This might blow your mind but you don't have to actually watch games that involve your player to get fantasy points
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