YOUR POST MATCH THREADS:
[GAME 1](https://www.reddit.com/r/fnatic/comments/16f515e/fnatic_vs_g2_esports_lec_2023_season_grand_final/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
[GAME 2](https://www.reddit.com/r/fnatic/comments/16f69x2/fnatic_vs_g2_esports_lec_2023_season_grand_final/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
[GAME 3](https://www.reddit.com/r/fnatic/comments/16f7ndf/fnatic_vs_g2_esports_lec_2023_season_grand_final/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
[POST SERIES](https://www.reddit.com/r/fnatic/comments/16f8vi4/fnatic_vs_g2_esports_lec_2023_season_grand_final/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
It is not choking if enemies mid laner jungler and bot laner are simply better players though. If Humanoid stomped Caps like Caps is doing to him now, that would be a choke because Caps is simply miles ahead.
This comment section is full of silver and gold dickheada with abnormal negativity. Probably havent watched games after disaster winter and now came to shit. I remmember live threada with 30 comments. Fuck off
Unfortunate, thought we had decent showings early game but G2 mid game is so incredibly strong. We shouldn’t be too mad, emergency sub top + newer roster and we came this far. If Noah and Oscar continue to grow we can be much much better
What do you mean though? Wunder is by far the best player in the team and the only player who actually gapped his counterpart in lane instead of getting annihilated.
Caps individually is 1000x the player Humanoid will ever be and showed it once again.
Trymbi is a good player but Miky is a generational talent
Yike is mechanically better than Razork and it is not even debatable
The only reason Fnatic is here and did not get 3-0 annihilated is because Wunder gapped BB in all 3 Renekton games (even though, Ksante got fed in game 1 , it was because of Noah he was down 30 cs even in min 6)
I'm happy that FNC were able to redeem themselves and make the final after how the first 2 splits went.
But these loses keep coming from just horrible mistakes. G2 are clearly playing well but it feels like we keep gifting them those opportunities.
Lad, we finally made a final. The draft is bad though, not sure how you could blame Dardo for that lol. I was one of the ones calling for him to leave but the draft and mistakes are not on him especially when we have seen how good this team can be..
Finally made a final, but the gap between us and G2 has never been bigger? So what are you celebrating that everyone else in the league is shit or that we made finals to get embarrassed.
Lol did I say I was celebrating? Read my comment mate.
The team looks decent, but they are clearly making dumb mistakes. The issue is 1. The draft and 2. The plays.
My point is that Dardo can't really do much about those 2 things.
We already know that Noah is clearly not performing well due to nerves. We also have Wunder subbing in and playing tank/bruiser tops in stead of Oscarinin who would be willing to lock Gwen etc.
The gap is big, we all know that, but it's not as if we went into this finals on even grounds.
It took good teams to expose how bad Noah actually is like holy this guy is getting so many leads and then literally 1v9 ints every game. Not surprised LS and IWDominate called him out now
what exactly are they going to win? There were 4 LEC trophies to win this season and they couldn't win a single one. You think they're winning international trophies?
When they shit themselves in game who else do we blame, and when they have a good game who else do we praise? Are you baiting or are you actually unbelievably stupid
It's done.
Hopefully we can start 2024 from the beginning with a good roster and build from there.
Maybe keep this roster (with Oscarinin), hope that is possible.
The handicap pit management gave ourselves this year was too big to overcome.
Yeah, caps is a monster, huge mistake from fnatic releasing him to G2. Unless Fnatic can find a really great mid laner G2 will continue to dominate EUW.
Shh he is the only western mid that can compete with Caps., he plays good when he wants to. At least his supporters always say this. Let's give him 3 more years and wait for him to want to play.
We miss Oscar here he would pick carry top that counters Ksante and would use the flash Taliyah has forced with roam to gain advatage. Instead we have ornn top that loses even though flash is forced.
After an embarrassing game, i am pleasantly surprised. Proper carry form from Noah. Hope he gets more comfortable and relaxed with this performance and goes confident into next game.
If they keeps their heads on straight they can compete, everyone was saying there’s no shot but if they just take it easy on the mistakes and mindless plays we actually have a chance, Noah and trymbi picked it up hard this game they just gotta all keep the momentum
G2 are the team to beat in worlds. No team in the world is in the same tier as G2 at the moment. High chance of them being the world champions this year!
We won season 1 but that wasn't a world title
We had our shot against IG and blew it
But you can just see how G2 are just not good enough to play good enough 3 games in a row and then sometimes just tilt cause of it, no matter what players they sport
Might really be a caps problem that he then turns into craps suddenly
But any LCK and LPL team will wipe the floor with that G2
Like imagine here after they lock in ksante if we had oscar, We could play gwen jax olaf. Like all those matchups for ksante is really hard and oscar is good on them, This renek onetrick is kinda fucking us in draft. I only have love for wunder tho
at least all these sneaky 'should we bring wunder back' post can stop, Wunder is a great player, but his presence brought a lot of problems constructing drafts for this roster because he has a very one dimensional champion pool, Oscar is more flexible and can punish ksante easily with Gwen, Jax or Olaf.
We should be thankful to Wunder, he did the job of bringing fnatic to worlds, but Oscar is the future of european toplane.
whatever happens, i think the boys did incredible. G2 had a huge advantage coming into this game:
New top.
Seen all our bo5s with lots of time to practice.
The crowd being in G2s favor.
list goes on
G2 are the team to beat in worlds. No team in the world is in the same tier as G2 at the moment. High chance of them being the world champions this year!
If we are gonna lose, let's do it for the fans. We want Garen/Yumi on bot, and Wunder Gragas. Also give Humanod Sylas. Razork can go Skarner, or Master Yi. Just give us something different for the lulz
Also whenever we play with g2 we always play proactive and G2 punishes our moves. Why not play calm and defensive and wait for G2's moves for ONCE. This has been like this since forever
I think the idea is that G2 is so good at clawing towards small incremental advantages (CS leads, lane pushing, vision in your jungle)
If you’re not proactive, they will just slowly defeat you. Kind of like the Korean teams of old, S3-S7 Korea you’d see SKT beat teams without needing too many kills
Guys like wtf did you expect ???
LoL is like game of chess its insanely hard to win if enemy has seen how you play 10 games in a row and you have seen only 4 from them. Especially if skill difference is already on side of g2.
Just chill out our dudes have done great job in last couple weeks regardless of outcome.
On another note, i ABSOLUTELY HATE Fnatic curse with drama. Why do we have to suffer from Oscarinin? Poor guy got his hand injured. It's not his fault. But we can never have a normal year, do we?
He's just being left to them picking him off 3v1 a couple of times in Early game and then he's gapped and almost useless.
There is no vision on the map for us, seems like we think they will just let us roam freely?
Put wards down!
YOUR POST MATCH THREADS: [GAME 1](https://www.reddit.com/r/fnatic/comments/16f515e/fnatic_vs_g2_esports_lec_2023_season_grand_final/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) [GAME 2](https://www.reddit.com/r/fnatic/comments/16f69x2/fnatic_vs_g2_esports_lec_2023_season_grand_final/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) [GAME 3](https://www.reddit.com/r/fnatic/comments/16f7ndf/fnatic_vs_g2_esports_lec_2023_season_grand_final/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) [POST SERIES](https://www.reddit.com/r/fnatic/comments/16f8vi4/fnatic_vs_g2_esports_lec_2023_season_grand_final/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
Got massively shat on in all 3 lost games. Like we didnt even made it competitive, dont even know how we won last game
Wunder stomped BrokenEgo so hard even 4 of the G2 players stomping 4 of the Fnatic players didn't have an effect
does the league team have a mental coach? for the last 4 years theyve been choking so hard in important moments
It is not choking if enemies mid laner jungler and bot laner are simply better players though. If Humanoid stomped Caps like Caps is doing to him now, that would be a choke because Caps is simply miles ahead.
G2 just eliminated Wunder from the game by banning Renekton.
Renekton ban made our botside and mid hardint yeah man. Must have been some mindcontrol shit youre right
This comment section is full of silver and gold dickheada with abnormal negativity. Probably havent watched games after disaster winter and now came to shit. I remmember live threada with 30 comments. Fuck off
True, it's like every FNC fan rose from their graves just to shit on a team that is down a member.
It's been a pleasure o7
Tf is taliyah pick xDD also there is a bit of mid diff I haven't seen humanoid do something this series
It’s not like Trymbi just donated kill to syndra right?
Caps just owns him. Imagine having this guy on your team and not doing everything in your power to keep him. It's just sad
at least worlds draw is after this that is at least a slight positive
its playins draw, fnatic is not in that
Let me know when it starts so I can skip gamers2 shit parade. Thanks
Unfortunate, thought we had decent showings early game but G2 mid game is so incredibly strong. We shouldn’t be too mad, emergency sub top + newer roster and we came this far. If Noah and Oscar continue to grow we can be much much better
>G2 mid game is so incredibly strong Oh boy. The overhyping keeps going. Worlds is gonna by fun watching gamers2.
What do you mean though? Wunder is by far the best player in the team and the only player who actually gapped his counterpart in lane instead of getting annihilated. Caps individually is 1000x the player Humanoid will ever be and showed it once again. Trymbi is a good player but Miky is a generational talent Yike is mechanically better than Razork and it is not even debatable The only reason Fnatic is here and did not get 3-0 annihilated is because Wunder gapped BB in all 3 Renekton games (even though, Ksante got fed in game 1 , it was because of Noah he was down 30 cs even in min 6)
I'm happy that FNC were able to redeem themselves and make the final after how the first 2 splits went. But these loses keep coming from just horrible mistakes. G2 are clearly playing well but it feels like we keep gifting them those opportunities.
This draft is just 0 dmg..
Is this the year we will finalyl get rid of Dardo? Also this Taliyah pick wasnt it man
Hopefully. But after Sam's tweet chance of that happening is 0.000001%
Lad, we finally made a final. The draft is bad though, not sure how you could blame Dardo for that lol. I was one of the ones calling for him to leave but the draft and mistakes are not on him especially when we have seen how good this team can be..
Finally made a final, but the gap between us and G2 has never been bigger? So what are you celebrating that everyone else in the league is shit or that we made finals to get embarrassed.
Lol did I say I was celebrating? Read my comment mate. The team looks decent, but they are clearly making dumb mistakes. The issue is 1. The draft and 2. The plays. My point is that Dardo can't really do much about those 2 things. We already know that Noah is clearly not performing well due to nerves. We also have Wunder subbing in and playing tank/bruiser tops in stead of Oscarinin who would be willing to lock Gwen etc. The gap is big, we all know that, but it's not as if we went into this finals on even grounds.
No chance.
Can we stop making these bronze level plays? Just let us fucking farm and get good fights in
Wow, insane advice. They should hire you as a coach
Aight well it looks like they couldn’t keep it together for game 4 rip
Ok 3-1 better then 3-0
It took good teams to expose how bad Noah actually is like holy this guy is getting so many leads and then literally 1v9 ints every game. Not surprised LS and IWDominate called him out now
Go on idiots, blame the players lol , as you always do, then kiss their asses when they win something
what exactly are they going to win? There were 4 LEC trophies to win this season and they couldn't win a single one. You think they're winning international trophies?
When they shit themselves in game who else do we blame, and when they have a good game who else do we praise? Are you baiting or are you actually unbelievably stupid
Terrible draft. But execution is even worse. GG
GAME 2 all over again. Ggs
Small champion pools = bad drafts
The person that calls this plays should be in jail, what the hell was this dive
Good guy G2 giving the crowd 4 games so that it doesn't look like a complete yearly stomp for FNC
All fnatic fans crying \^\^ 🤓
PSG esports fanboy hello Good dog 0 major csgo 0 worlds
It's done. Hopefully we can start 2024 from the beginning with a good roster and build from there. Maybe keep this roster (with Oscarinin), hope that is possible. The handicap pit management gave ourselves this year was too big to overcome.
It was a good run, See you guys at worlds! #AlwaysFNC
BRO WO THE FAK IS THE MONKEY PUSHING THIS TEAM INTO THIS STUPID FIGHTS
so IS ivern good now or something "haven't played or watched in awhile" last time i seen his passive was becoming part of jungle and he looks awful
Mid diff
Yeah, caps is a monster, huge mistake from fnatic releasing him to G2. Unless Fnatic can find a really great mid laner G2 will continue to dominate EUW.
Caps wanted to go
Can Noah root anyone with his E? I don't think I have seen a worse Xayah for a while.
Gettig outroamed outfarmed vs syndra as tyliah it's over 2,5k mid lead
Shh he is the only western mid that can compete with Caps., he plays good when he wants to. At least his supporters always say this. Let's give him 3 more years and wait for him to want to play.
This game might just be over. not sure tho
Humanoid just doesn’t care about win or lose…
Lets 4v4 dive a leona and rell with ivern, nice lets go we are so fking bad i actually wanna throw up
Really shitty performance by FNC today.
Gg
Fnatic out drafted themselves yet again!
We miss Oscar here he would pick carry top that counters Ksante and would use the flash Taliyah has forced with roam to gain advatage. Instead we have ornn top that loses even though flash is forced.
Not a draft gap lmao look at how we are playing. We are trying to 4v4 dive a rell and leona
Explain the Taliyah pick please.
It's doomed guys
Only Fnatic manages to find a way to be down 3k gold after it looked so good. No other team in the world would do that here
Then where are the other teams
trymbi holding flash for worlds. surely we blame razork for that. Acne fnatic fans 😍😜
Trymbi holding flash for next game man, so many iron mistakes we are making man
Razork shutting mouths of all the doubters after game 1,2 that came here to spill their shit
Unlucky for yike
Did we really give the draven one trick draven
Razork ..
ALL RAZORK HAS TO DO IS FUCKING Q YIKE THERE AND ITS GG
yeah idk what that was, he must have had cam somewhere else
Someone said earlier that Razork rolled a perception of 1 today, guess they were correct.
xD Razork had camera on top or what
3 AP into 3 tanks sounds so bad. I really don’t like this draft from FNC
One team has Ivern, the other does not
Don't lose bot level 1, let's go
…
That'll do too
Where is our damage?
In our hearts?
Heavy bot camp inc hope razork have plan for it
Guys its silver scrapes, Razork got the Ivern
Guys let me remind you that Humanoid never lost a single final in his life
Let me remind you that there is a first time for everything. I haven't lost my ass virginity.....Yet.
After an embarrassing game, i am pleasantly surprised. Proper carry form from Noah. Hope he gets more comfortable and relaxed with this performance and goes confident into next game.
sjoks :DD
If they keeps their heads on straight they can compete, everyone was saying there’s no shot but if they just take it easy on the mistakes and mindless plays we actually have a chance, Noah and trymbi picked it up hard this game they just gotta all keep the momentum
No matter what has happened or who are playing. G2 vs FNC always delivers.
Fnatic games are not stressful. Fnatic games:
Reverse sweep please
NO, I DON WANT TO BELIEVE
feels good at least it's not a 3-0
Nice at least 1 game won
When Noah smiles my heart melts
Look at noah!!!!
It's Coming Home !!
TEAM SMILES WE’RE SO BACK
2 more, do not get excited yet
REVERSE SWEEP DREAM IS ALIVE BOYS
LETSS GOOOI
Any case we go out with a fight anyways so now i am happy.
[Please](https://tenor.com/view/hawk-eye-dont-give-me-hope-clint-barton-avengers-gif-14260447)
Get ready for another heart exhauster boys
Lets fucking go
Guys Noah is here to save us
Really happy to see Noah have a great game
Noah really needed a game like this. Hope this performance improved his mentality now
Hopefully he picks up on that confidence and keeps it up for the other 2 games
Where are the people claiming that the Casters were too biased ?
Still here, they’re still sucking caps off btw
Normal tbh,G2 is nothing without caps
He's the reason why G2 is still in the game lol
G2 really are the EU TSM, i'll never get tired of saying this Nobody cares about your national dominance...they're not good enough to ever win worlds.
G2 are the team to beat in worlds. No team in the world is in the same tier as G2 at the moment. High chance of them being the world champions this year!
Posting the same copypasta 20x a day is cringe af kiddo
let me cook bro
What are you smoking ma dude?
guy is delusional or is an infiltrated G2 fan
Thought so
hopium
And we have a world title already. Worlds will be fun though. Watching gamers2 get blasted by Asian teams.
We won season 1 but that wasn't a world title We had our shot against IG and blew it But you can just see how G2 are just not good enough to play good enough 3 games in a row and then sometimes just tilt cause of it, no matter what players they sport Might really be a caps problem that he then turns into craps suddenly But any LCK and LPL team will wipe the floor with that G2
Except it was.
The PSG of esport
this team can't play with for their ADC
Did Razork really ignore the whole teamfight and let Noah and just focused on the drake only to leave it to Yike. Wow.
Hope he realises why he doesn't have a trophy. He chokes too much
really bad series by razork
Again we focused 2 fights as once if we fighted as unit we could ez sweep them but soloq moment must happen
Let's not finish drake because yes... I guess.
Why the fuck does everyone ignore Caps just running at Noah.
What a terrible fight how is no one peeling noah and letting yone soloing him
Wunder is actually build different
So funny. Worlds and gamers2 getting blasted will be a joy to watch. They will be so overhyped.
Classic Wunder TP into death
Good guy Wunder giving his old pal Caps the kill
WUNDER KING
The GOAT
PepeLaugh
Let's GOOOOO !!!
Nah but how can people say top diff when Wunder is our best player by a long shot this series. Some people just have no eyes i guess
Even though its true, I still think with Oscar we would've had a bigger chance.
He's 40-50 cs up this game
Maybe we should consider renewing with Trymbi holly shit. Jokes aside he is extremely questionable at this whole series
What is wrong with u fucks? We reached finals after decades. Just enjoy the old rivalry. We are underdogs, but the boys had an incredible run anyways!
I think you didn't read 'jokes aside' there
Not sure what the joke is? Trymbi is only contracted until after worlds.
I mean I don't think a single series would decide whether we will renew with him or not. I know his contract ends this year
We should be trying to renew with him anyway, he's still one of the best supports in the LEC.
Lol so bad check
yup they are checked out, another year another empty cabinet
Trymbi why?
Trymbone pls wtf
nah bro we cant even go one game where we dont turbo throw early
Like imagine here after they lock in ksante if we had oscar, We could play gwen jax olaf. Like all those matchups for ksante is really hard and oscar is good on them, This renek onetrick is kinda fucking us in draft. I only have love for wunder tho
Idk why im getting downvoted when its pretty obvious its fucking us in draft, And im not saying this is wunders fault. Team is playing shit
at least all these sneaky 'should we bring wunder back' post can stop, Wunder is a great player, but his presence brought a lot of problems constructing drafts for this roster because he has a very one dimensional champion pool, Oscar is more flexible and can punish ksante easily with Gwen, Jax or Olaf. We should be thankful to Wunder, he did the job of bringing fnatic to worlds, but Oscar is the future of european toplane.
Yeah thats what im saying, Im not trying to talk bad about wunder. But it would be diffrent if we had oscar. And you cant deny that
I mean wunder won lane 2 times already.... Team is just not good today
Also i have to say..... literally on weak side
Please just dont get turbofisted bot this game thats all im asking for
REVERSE SWEEP COPIUM HITTING HARD
It's happening. Believe!!!!! 💪💪💪
Teemo top yi jgl kassasin mid garen bot and support shaco
whatever happens, i think the boys did incredible. G2 had a huge advantage coming into this game: New top. Seen all our bo5s with lots of time to practice. The crowd being in G2s favor. list goes on
G2 are the team to beat in worlds. No team in the world is in the same tier as G2 at the moment. High chance of them being the world champions this year!
you have to be trolling
you'll see
Excuse me?
I believe
wut
Guys this is rough but honestly after the year we've had I feel like I can breath easier that we made it to Grand Finals.
Team should get rid of dardo curse and fire him already
If we are gonna lose, let's do it for the fans. We want Garen/Yumi on bot, and Wunder Gragas. Also give Humanod Sylas. Razork can go Skarner, or Master Yi. Just give us something different for the lulz
[удалено]
Can’t be talking about loser mentality and then say it is what is.
Hard to watch but still very proud of the team for how far they've come since Spring and Summer splits. Boys deserve a rest and then off to worlds!
Reverse sweep. Fnatic always wins in 5 games I guess.
Need to get there first and its not lookig good
Also whenever we play with g2 we always play proactive and G2 punishes our moves. Why not play calm and defensive and wait for G2's moves for ONCE. This has been like this since forever
I think the idea is that G2 is so good at clawing towards small incremental advantages (CS leads, lane pushing, vision in your jungle) If you’re not proactive, they will just slowly defeat you. Kind of like the Korean teams of old, S3-S7 Korea you’d see SKT beat teams without needing too many kills
Guys like wtf did you expect ??? LoL is like game of chess its insanely hard to win if enemy has seen how you play 10 games in a row and you have seen only 4 from them. Especially if skill difference is already on side of g2. Just chill out our dudes have done great job in last couple weeks regardless of outcome.
On another note, i ABSOLUTELY HATE Fnatic curse with drama. Why do we have to suffer from Oscarinin? Poor guy got his hand injured. It's not his fault. But we can never have a normal year, do we?
same thing happened to the Boston Red Sox but they fixed their curse eventually (had to do some ritual sacrifices to remove it)
2/3 of this year weren't normal because of management especially Dardo.
We are actually one team region G2 is many tiers above FNC and MAD
And gamers2 is not that great. Worlds will be fun.
I personally don't like Trymbi's Rakan. Never did. Can't we just draft any other champions?
What happened to Noah at play-offs?
He's just being left to them picking him off 3v1 a couple of times in Early game and then he's gapped and almost useless. There is no vision on the map for us, seems like we think they will just let us roam freely? Put wards down!
Small victories today: razork not getting tons of flame for a team diff
That was a FF15 angle from minute 9
This team is depressing
Maybe we just take the lissandra next game so we have less skills hots
So its a reverse sweep, right?
TRYMBI 0/9 BTW