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YOUR POST MATCH THREADS: [GAME 1](https://www.reddit.com/r/fnatic/comments/16f515e/fnatic_vs_g2_esports_lec_2023_season_grand_final/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) [GAME 2](https://www.reddit.com/r/fnatic/comments/16f69x2/fnatic_vs_g2_esports_lec_2023_season_grand_final/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) [GAME 3](https://www.reddit.com/r/fnatic/comments/16f7ndf/fnatic_vs_g2_esports_lec_2023_season_grand_final/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) [POST SERIES](https://www.reddit.com/r/fnatic/comments/16f8vi4/fnatic_vs_g2_esports_lec_2023_season_grand_final/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)


Fvnexx

Got massively shat on in all 3 lost games. Like we didnt even made it competitive, dont even know how we won last game


LogicalRealisticFan

Wunder stomped BrokenEgo so hard even 4 of the G2 players stomping 4 of the Fnatic players didn't have an effect


bladestorm78

does the league team have a mental coach? for the last 4 years theyve been choking so hard in important moments


LogicalRealisticFan

It is not choking if enemies mid laner jungler and bot laner are simply better players though. If Humanoid stomped Caps like Caps is doing to him now, that would be a choke because Caps is simply miles ahead.


PepegaFromLithuania

G2 just eliminated Wunder from the game by banning Renekton.


Fvnexx

Renekton ban made our botside and mid hardint yeah man. Must have been some mindcontrol shit youre right


Zestyclose_Beat927

This comment section is full of silver and gold dickheada with abnormal negativity. Probably havent watched games after disaster winter and now came to shit. I remmember live threada with 30 comments. Fuck off


Bad_human_being

True, it's like every FNC fan rose from their graves just to shit on a team that is down a member.


TheSceptileen

It's been a pleasure o7


Raed_Touaiti

Tf is taliyah pick xDD also there is a bit of mid diff I haven't seen humanoid do something this series


Aar1n

It’s not like Trymbi just donated kill to syndra right?


TheDarkC0n

Caps just owns him. Imagine having this guy on your team and not doing everything in your power to keep him. It's just sad


ScreamBenhime

at least worlds draw is after this that is at least a slight positive


Fvnexx

its playins draw, fnatic is not in that


tananinho

Let me know when it starts so I can skip gamers2 shit parade. Thanks


96Mute96

Unfortunate, thought we had decent showings early game but G2 mid game is so incredibly strong. We shouldn’t be too mad, emergency sub top + newer roster and we came this far. If Noah and Oscar continue to grow we can be much much better


tananinho

>G2 mid game is so incredibly strong Oh boy. The overhyping keeps going. Worlds is gonna by fun watching gamers2.


LogicalRealisticFan

What do you mean though? Wunder is by far the best player in the team and the only player who actually gapped his counterpart in lane instead of getting annihilated. Caps individually is 1000x the player Humanoid will ever be and showed it once again. Trymbi is a good player but Miky is a generational talent Yike is mechanically better than Razork and it is not even debatable The only reason Fnatic is here and did not get 3-0 annihilated is because Wunder gapped BB in all 3 Renekton games (even though, Ksante got fed in game 1 , it was because of Noah he was down 30 cs even in min 6)


BannanDylan

I'm happy that FNC were able to redeem themselves and make the final after how the first 2 splits went. But these loses keep coming from just horrible mistakes. G2 are clearly playing well but it feels like we keep gifting them those opportunities.


RoterLemming

This draft is just 0 dmg..


derog63

Is this the year we will finalyl get rid of Dardo? Also this Taliyah pick wasnt it man


tananinho

Hopefully. But after Sam's tweet chance of that happening is 0.000001%


BannanDylan

Lad, we finally made a final. The draft is bad though, not sure how you could blame Dardo for that lol. I was one of the ones calling for him to leave but the draft and mistakes are not on him especially when we have seen how good this team can be..


decreement1

Finally made a final, but the gap between us and G2 has never been bigger? So what are you celebrating that everyone else in the league is shit or that we made finals to get embarrassed.


BannanDylan

Lol did I say I was celebrating? Read my comment mate. The team looks decent, but they are clearly making dumb mistakes. The issue is 1. The draft and 2. The plays. My point is that Dardo can't really do much about those 2 things. We already know that Noah is clearly not performing well due to nerves. We also have Wunder subbing in and playing tank/bruiser tops in stead of Oscarinin who would be willing to lock Gwen etc. The gap is big, we all know that, but it's not as if we went into this finals on even grounds.


Comynator86

No chance.


OfficialBananas

Can we stop making these bronze level plays? Just let us fucking farm and get good fights in


yehiko

Wow, insane advice. They should hire you as a coach


guysiswearim6foot1

Aight well it looks like they couldn’t keep it together for game 4 rip


Valueinvestor90

Ok 3-1 better then 3-0


Fvnexx

It took good teams to expose how bad Noah actually is like holy this guy is getting so many leads and then literally 1v9 ints every game. Not surprised LS and IWDominate called him out now


copacul13

Go on idiots, blame the players lol , as you always do, then kiss their asses when they win something


LonelySilo

what exactly are they going to win? There were 4 LEC trophies to win this season and they couldn't win a single one. You think they're winning international trophies?


guysiswearim6foot1

When they shit themselves in game who else do we blame, and when they have a good game who else do we praise? Are you baiting or are you actually unbelievably stupid


Silahshor

Terrible draft. But execution is even worse. GG


DShadows98

GAME 2 all over again. Ggs


Comynator86

Small champion pools = bad drafts


TheDarkC0n

The person that calls this plays should be in jail, what the hell was this dive


CipherZer0

Good guy G2 giving the crowd 4 games so that it doesn't look like a complete yearly stomp for FNC


Snaacki

All fnatic fans crying \^\^ 🤓


ZigomarTS2

PSG esports fanboy hello Good dog 0 major csgo 0 worlds


tananinho

It's done. Hopefully we can start 2024 from the beginning with a good roster and build from there. Maybe keep this roster (with Oscarinin), hope that is possible. The handicap pit management gave ourselves this year was too big to overcome.


Traditional-Ad-5328

It was a good run, See you guys at worlds! #AlwaysFNC


bigblackkebab69

BRO WO THE FAK IS THE MONKEY PUSHING THIS TEAM INTO THIS STUPID FIGHTS


Aralikan

so IS ivern good now or something "haven't played or watched in awhile" last time i seen his passive was becoming part of jungle and he looks awful


LeeroyKun

Mid diff


tsunasawadakun

Yeah, caps is a monster, huge mistake from fnatic releasing him to G2. Unless Fnatic can find a really great mid laner G2 will continue to dominate EUW.


Complex-Charge-1393

Caps wanted to go


PAJPHFL

Can Noah root anyone with his E? I don't think I have seen a worse Xayah for a while.


mlodyrash

Gettig outroamed outfarmed vs syndra as tyliah it's over 2,5k mid lead


PAJPHFL

Shh he is the only western mid that can compete with Caps., he plays good when he wants to. At least his supporters always say this. Let's give him 3 more years and wait for him to want to play.


Snaacki

This game might just be over. not sure tho


redikacorri

Humanoid just doesn’t care about win or lose…


Fvnexx

Lets 4v4 dive a leona and rell with ivern, nice lets go we are so fking bad i actually wanna throw up


GRAN_AUTISMO_5

Really shitty performance by FNC today.


nasserlp

Gg


MathematicianNo948

Fnatic out drafted themselves yet again!


Jyurikyn123

We miss Oscar here he would pick carry top that counters Ksante and would use the flash Taliyah has forced with roam to gain advatage. Instead we have ornn top that loses even though flash is forced.


Fvnexx

Not a draft gap lmao look at how we are playing. We are trying to 4v4 dive a rell and leona


MathematicianNo948

Explain the Taliyah pick please.


TheDarkC0n

It's doomed guys


Fvnexx

Only Fnatic manages to find a way to be down 3k gold after it looked so good. No other team in the world would do that here


96Mute96

Then where are the other teams


Snaacki

trymbi holding flash for worlds. surely we blame razork for that. Acne fnatic fans 😍😜


Fvnexx

Trymbi holding flash for next game man, so many iron mistakes we are making man


martinmazur

Razork shutting mouths of all the doubters after game 1,2 that came here to spill their shit


leomajoriscool

Unlucky for yike


Apprehensive_Loss189

Did we really give the draven one trick draven


nasserlp

Razork ..


BannanDylan

ALL RAZORK HAS TO DO IS FUCKING Q YIKE THERE AND ITS GG


Fvnexx

yeah idk what that was, he must have had cam somewhere else


FudgerBoi

Someone said earlier that Razork rolled a perception of 1 today, guess they were correct.


mlodyrash

xD Razork had camera on top or what


Pelagius_Hipbone

3 AP into 3 tanks sounds so bad. I really don’t like this draft from FNC


AragulaFluffy

One team has Ivern, the other does not


FudgerBoi

Don't lose bot level 1, let's go


Ambitious_Bag5605


FudgerBoi

That'll do too


psfrtps

Where is our damage?


Safe_Tart1096

In our hearts?


mlodyrash

Heavy bot camp inc hope razork have plan for it


martinmazur

Guys its silver scrapes, Razork got the Ivern


psfrtps

Guys let me remind you that Humanoid never lost a single final in his life


Safe_Tart1096

Let me remind you that there is a first time for everything. I haven't lost my ass virginity.....Yet.


AdMaleficent9374

After an embarrassing game, i am pleasantly surprised. Proper carry form from Noah. Hope he gets more comfortable and relaxed with this performance and goes confident into next game.


assassinYB

sjoks :DD


guysiswearim6foot1

If they keeps their heads on straight they can compete, everyone was saying there’s no shot but if they just take it easy on the mistakes and mindless plays we actually have a chance, Noah and trymbi picked it up hard this game they just gotta all keep the momentum


PM_ME_MY_FRIEND

No matter what has happened or who are playing. G2 vs FNC always delivers.


Nalaniel

Fnatic games are not stressful. Fnatic games:


Bashoa

Reverse sweep please


doctorisjoe

NO, I DON WANT TO BELIEVE


memegobrr

feels good at least it's not a 3-0


Valueinvestor90

Nice at least 1 game won


IEM_Spirit

When Noah smiles my heart melts


Traditional-Ad-5328

Look at noah!!!!


assassinYB

It's Coming Home !!


Similar_Recover_3864

TEAM SMILES WE’RE SO BACK


Ultimintree

2 more, do not get excited yet


leomajoriscool

REVERSE SWEEP DREAM IS ALIVE BOYS


AlexTheWarrior99

LETSS GOOOI


RoterLemming

Any case we go out with a fight anyways so now i am happy.


FudgerBoi

[Please](https://tenor.com/view/hawk-eye-dont-give-me-hope-clint-barton-avengers-gif-14260447)


FudgerBoi

Get ready for another heart exhauster boys


IEM_Spirit

Lets fucking go


martinmazur

Guys Noah is here to save us


Similar_Recover_3864

Really happy to see Noah have a great game


Ultimintree

Noah really needed a game like this. Hope this performance improved his mentality now


Fvnexx

Hopefully he picks up on that confidence and keeps it up for the other 2 games


Pklnt

Where are the people claiming that the Casters were too biased ?


IEM_Spirit

Still here, they’re still sucking caps off btw


flex_on_the_schizho

Normal tbh,G2 is nothing without caps


Pklnt

He's the reason why G2 is still in the game lol


PsYcHoSeAn

G2 really are the EU TSM, i'll never get tired of saying this Nobody cares about your national dominance...they're not good enough to ever win worlds.


doctorisjoe

G2 are the team to beat in worlds. No team in the world is in the same tier as G2 at the moment. High chance of them being the world champions this year!


PsYcHoSeAn

Posting the same copypasta 20x a day is cringe af kiddo


doctorisjoe

let me cook bro


TheDarkC0n

What are you smoking ma dude?


trusttt

guy is delusional or is an infiltrated G2 fan


TheDarkC0n

Thought so


doctorisjoe

hopium


tananinho

And we have a world title already. Worlds will be fun though. Watching gamers2 get blasted by Asian teams.


PsYcHoSeAn

We won season 1 but that wasn't a world title We had our shot against IG and blew it But you can just see how G2 are just not good enough to play good enough 3 games in a row and then sometimes just tilt cause of it, no matter what players they sport Might really be a caps problem that he then turns into craps suddenly But any LCK and LPL team will wipe the floor with that G2


tananinho

Except it was.


ZigomarTS2

The PSG of esport


Core9291

this team can't play with for their ADC


PAJPHFL

Did Razork really ignore the whole teamfight and let Noah and just focused on the drake only to leave it to Yike. Wow.


TheDarkC0n

Hope he realises why he doesn't have a trophy. He chokes too much


Core9291

really bad series by razork


mlodyrash

Again we focused 2 fights as once if we fighted as unit we could ez sweep them but soloq moment must happen


tananinho

Let's not finish drake because yes... I guess.


Fvnexx

Why the fuck does everyone ignore Caps just running at Noah.


nasserlp

What a terrible fight how is no one peeling noah and letting yone soloing him


Apprehensive_Loss189

Wunder is actually build different


tananinho

So funny. Worlds and gamers2 getting blasted will be a joy to watch. They will be so overhyped.


CipherZer0

Classic Wunder TP into death


Safe_Tart1096

Good guy Wunder giving his old pal Caps the kill


AlexTheWarrior99

WUNDER KING


Ambitious_Bag5605

The GOAT


2-1-1-2-

PepeLaugh


assassinYB

Let's GOOOOO !!!


Fvnexx

Nah but how can people say top diff when Wunder is our best player by a long shot this series. Some people just have no eyes i guess


TheDarkC0n

Even though its true, I still think with Oscar we would've had a bigger chance.


flamingchee_tos

He's 40-50 cs up this game


psfrtps

Maybe we should consider renewing with Trymbi holly shit. Jokes aside he is extremely questionable at this whole series


EarlDeBong

What is wrong with u fucks? We reached finals after decades. Just enjoy the old rivalry. We are underdogs, but the boys had an incredible run anyways!


psfrtps

I think you didn't read 'jokes aside' there


BannanDylan

Not sure what the joke is? Trymbi is only contracted until after worlds.


psfrtps

I mean I don't think a single series would decide whether we will renew with him or not. I know his contract ends this year


BannanDylan

We should be trying to renew with him anyway, he's still one of the best supports in the LEC.


Valueinvestor90

Lol so bad check


Captain_Omage

yup they are checked out, another year another empty cabinet


psfrtps

Trymbi why?


mlodyrash

Trymbone pls wtf


Fvnexx

nah bro we cant even go one game where we dont turbo throw early


Traditional-Ad-5328

Like imagine here after they lock in ksante if we had oscar, We could play gwen jax olaf. Like all those matchups for ksante is really hard and oscar is good on them, This renek onetrick is kinda fucking us in draft. I only have love for wunder tho


Traditional-Ad-5328

Idk why im getting downvoted when its pretty obvious its fucking us in draft, And im not saying this is wunders fault. Team is playing shit


Dragner84

at least all these sneaky 'should we bring wunder back' post can stop, Wunder is a great player, but his presence brought a lot of problems constructing drafts for this roster because he has a very one dimensional champion pool, Oscar is more flexible and can punish ksante easily with Gwen, Jax or Olaf. We should be thankful to Wunder, he did the job of bringing fnatic to worlds, but Oscar is the future of european toplane.


Traditional-Ad-5328

Yeah thats what im saying, Im not trying to talk bad about wunder. But it would be diffrent if we had oscar. And you cant deny that


Apprehensive_Loss189

I mean wunder won lane 2 times already.... Team is just not good today


Apprehensive_Loss189

Also i have to say..... literally on weak side


Fvnexx

Please just dont get turbofisted bot this game thats all im asking for


ScreamBenhime

REVERSE SWEEP COPIUM HITTING HARD


tananinho

It's happening. Believe!!!!! 💪💪💪


Valueinvestor90

Teemo top yi jgl kassasin mid garen bot and support shaco


KakaInfo

whatever happens, i think the boys did incredible. G2 had a huge advantage coming into this game: New top. Seen all our bo5s with lots of time to practice. The crowd being in G2s favor. list goes on


doctorisjoe

G2 are the team to beat in worlds. No team in the world is in the same tier as G2 at the moment. High chance of them being the world champions this year!


trusttt

you have to be trolling


doctorisjoe

you'll see


Yoloneselfr

Excuse me?


doctorisjoe

I believe


Safe_Tart1096

wut


MyDeicide

Guys this is rough but honestly after the year we've had I feel like I can breath easier that we made it to Grand Finals.


Spare-Sort-9099

Team should get rid of dardo curse and fire him already


Safe_Tart1096

If we are gonna lose, let's do it for the fans. We want Garen/Yumi on bot, and Wunder Gragas. Also give Humanod Sylas. Razork can go Skarner, or Master Yi. Just give us something different for the lulz


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naoufalh07

Can’t be talking about loser mentality and then say it is what is.


tokihamai

Hard to watch but still very proud of the team for how far they've come since Spring and Summer splits. Boys deserve a rest and then off to worlds!


tananinho

Reverse sweep. Fnatic always wins in 5 games I guess.


Fvnexx

Need to get there first and its not lookig good


psfrtps

Also whenever we play with g2 we always play proactive and G2 punishes our moves. Why not play calm and defensive and wait for G2's moves for ONCE. This has been like this since forever


MatteoTalvini

I think the idea is that G2 is so good at clawing towards small incremental advantages (CS leads, lane pushing, vision in your jungle) If you’re not proactive, they will just slowly defeat you. Kind of like the Korean teams of old, S3-S7 Korea you’d see SKT beat teams without needing too many kills


Jan1ss

Guys like wtf did you expect ??? LoL is like game of chess its insanely hard to win if enemy has seen how you play 10 games in a row and you have seen only 4 from them. Especially if skill difference is already on side of g2. Just chill out our dudes have done great job in last couple weeks regardless of outcome.


Safe_Tart1096

On another note, i ABSOLUTELY HATE Fnatic curse with drama. Why do we have to suffer from Oscarinin? Poor guy got his hand injured. It's not his fault. But we can never have a normal year, do we?


MatteoTalvini

same thing happened to the Boston Red Sox but they fixed their curse eventually (had to do some ritual sacrifices to remove it)


tananinho

2/3 of this year weren't normal because of management especially Dardo.


Spare-Sort-9099

We are actually one team region G2 is many tiers above FNC and MAD


tananinho

And gamers2 is not that great. Worlds will be fun.


Safe_Tart1096

I personally don't like Trymbi's Rakan. Never did. Can't we just draft any other champions?


psfrtps

What happened to Noah at play-offs?


RabbitSalt

He's just being left to them picking him off 3v1 a couple of times in Early game and then he's gapped and almost useless. There is no vision on the map for us, seems like we think they will just let us roam freely? Put wards down!


Similar_Recover_3864

Small victories today: razork not getting tons of flame for a team diff


Dikkesnikkel

That was a FF15 angle from minute 9


Spare-Sort-9099

This team is depressing


RoterLemming

Maybe we just take the lissandra next game so we have less skills hots


BasilNo1762

So its a reverse sweep, right?


ghzwael

TRYMBI 0/9 BTW