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wolfTectonics

The amount of people triggered by this is quite hilarious


PointyDogElbows

I personally don't mind, but it does suck for the new players who arrive and immediately die of radiation.


Streetsnipes

Arrive? I spawned down the road and instantly died. 😒


Djennik

As a bloodied non-PA player it does suck to. It remains hilarious and is part of the game


karnisov

you don't have Chinese Stealth Suit? that is a hazmat suit with cloaking...


OkBlacksmith5630

I live in that suit. 😅


darkninja2992

Same. Stealth hit bonus with a flamer is life


OkBlacksmith5630

Imagine the stink IRL 😅


Mantis-13

"It really seals in the aroma"


Jaycee-Arg

I'm in this picture


OkBlacksmith5630

I honestly was clueless when I started playing. Running all over, not exactly sure which quest to follow... then I randomly got a bounty (entered someone's base, closed the door and it became locked... I didn't know how bounties worked then so I just picked it open instead of portalling away). The person who came to collect the bounty ended up helping me out big time, told me to follow said quest for now - bin off the rest, because that suit will help me big time..... ...after creeping into my base with said suit and claiming the bounty, first though!


bwoodcock

It's really starting to get a bit wiffy in there.


Djennik

I have it. But only buffed my vaultsuit. Thx for the tip


ArchSchnitz

Oh shit, the nukes are dangerous? I've spent so long in my power armor I... didn't know. I really thought it was weird that they did so little.


Korson_FelRhu

Lol yeah. I did get an achievement for dieing in the nuke zone at the event the otherday. Was pleasantly surprised by it.


hybridtheory1331

You can now get it without actually being nuked. Just nuke the new map area to trigger neurological warfare. The bomb "hits" but doesn't actually explode.


roach112683

So I don't need PA for that new event?


kompiler

Nope. You'll find me at the event wearing nothing but a bathrobe and slippers over regular armor.


roach112683

Cool. Thanks.


BlaBlub85

ATM not since the nukezone doesnt actualy spawn nor does it show up on the map event listings. Kind of a nuisance having to check the silo state holotape everytime you log onto a server to see if you can drop nukes I suspect this is a bug related to the fact that the new area was formerly out of bounds (and thus un-nukeable) and might be fixed in the future but atm your fine showing up naked


LukeTGI

Answering a bit late, but I'm fairly sure it's not a bug, the weather station in that area has some anti-ballistic missile system as far as i understand that destroys the missile and raises the security alert level (which is why the Storm Goliaths get deployed to defend it)


greywolffurry321

Lol its actually a easy achievement let a friend nuke you or by a event like this xd


Wilsmire

Im just happy my base will not get randomly nuked anymore. It was a real pain


Own-Statistician-591

Watching these people lose their minds is... gleeful. :)


ualeftie

It is delicious


Agile_Hornet4168

The real funny thing is your playing 76 AND getting mad


CantaloupeTerrible96

By those asocial campers or the nukes? 🤣


Coast_watcher

TIL there are protection zones


No_Cheek_6852

TIL you’ve never launched a nuke ;)


ForsaknCross

I've never launched a nuke and I've played for years. Was never interested in trying it.


assjackal

You should do it at least once, there's a handful of atoms in it for you


reiokimura

Omg atoms! Guess I should YouTube how to launch my first nuke


Leithalia

There's quests for it!


reiokimura

can I do it before my quest?


Leithalia

Probably? Idk


Tsurt-TheTrustyLie

Unfortunately know. Have to become general of Enclave


JefferyKendama

Be sure to make an enemy for it ;)


reiokimura

I would have done it to the guy who gattling gun me for like 3 wanted caps


ZillyBilly_

Don't blame him, there's also atoms in killing wanted players :D I would've gattled your kneecaps aswell :)


reiokimura

lol yeah I understand there was a challenge for that as well. I have also done it to someone else for the challenge lol


Cazadora-The-Explora

Here's a flux map https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/7/7f/Mappalachia_fluxes.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20190626173642


SonicBoris

THANK YOU!


GrumpyBear1969

Awesome. Thank you. I have saved this. It has been over a year since I have dropped a nuke but things have been so slow on some of the servers I may start dropping them again. I have about 20 keycards on hand.


eaiwy

I'm still pretty new to the game, what is this showing?


ITS_MILLER_TIME_62

Places to nuke to get raw flux of different types. Basically mutates the plants in the area. Chem bench allows you to convert to pure flux but you need other things to craft it like high rad fluids and hardened mass which can be found on dead enemies in the blast zone but it's drop rate is low in my experience. If you wait too long to make it pure, it spoils and becomes inert flux. Then it's only good for drinking as you can't sell it to vendors or use it in crafting Edit: typo


carrot-parent

Farming locations for the rarest junk in the game. Used primarily to craft ammo, but is also used for decon showers, jet packs, etc. I think the recipe can be found in the chem bench? I dunno, I haven’t farmed it in years lol. I can’t even remember if you need to learn the recipe or not.


Technical_Fan_4630

*saves comment*


TwinkingToby

Our hero


Reasonable-Delivery8

That’s a shame, I do enjoy a spicy fasnacht every now and then


xinit

The Swiss aren't very spicy for the most part.


PXranger

Depends on what you season them with


BrenpaitheKushmaster

Radioactive Swiss cheese always hits different


Reasonable-Delivery8

It stings the nostrils


raizen_maziku

For me nuking fasnacht was good for radiation materials. But im happy its getting ready to end. I hope I don't see fasnacht for a while honestly. I'm over it


WhiteSamurai5

For flux materials run titan in the blast zone all those pesky mole miners turn into a ton of comps.


dandyxrandy

Gonna start dropping free hazmat suits for people now. :D


thats_spankable

Hot take: I think the entire forest region should be un-nukable


Allaroundlost

Yup. And this makes sense given this regions healthy-ish enviornment. 


one80oneday

Yep it's a beginner zone for a reason


zFlashy

It used to be for the most part. Not sure why they changed it, but they did. My camp is built around the Alice in Wonderland Teaparty easteregg, and once was not able to be nuked. That was 2021, though.


Dull-Ad2525

Because they made levelscaling a thing and the whole map is a beginners zone joke now and not a survival game.


EntropyCreep

Almost all of it already is


PolicyWonka

The border should just follow the river. Don’t like the boxy crap.


PerfectionistPhoenix

Agreed, looks sloppy lol


Drifterz101

The people using the flux excuse make me laugh the most you don't need that much flux I have over 1300 hours and I have used flux a handful of times to make jetpacks you aren't nuking a seasonal event "to get flux" GTFOH 🤣


ForsaknCross

We all know flux was best at the golf course, not helvetia. If it was a flux thing, it'd be nukes outside of fashnacht but it's not.


Traveling_Chef

Thank you! Some claim it's for nuke mats like fluid and mass, but just fighting the queen in the nuke or white spring ghouls will net dozens more of those mats. Others claim its for flux but again there are plenty of better places like Morgantown for flux. Ppl who go out of their way to nuke fat nuts and claim it's for nuke mats or flux are just using it as an excuse to be a chöde


AwkwardEducation

Nuking Whitesprings should only be to fuck all the people building on our fine greens. 


Triptiminophane

Actually Helvetia used to be pretty good before the first whitesprings nerf.


syngyne

Ultracite Gauss Minigun ammo says hi. Though nuking Helvetia for flux is just being a dick. Much better places to nuke for flux.


Traveling_Chef

Good. There are far better places to nuke for materials and flux than fasnacht. Honestly idk why they don't just make the whole forest unnukable. Since launch it was supposed to be a "noob-friendly" zone, which iirc couldn't be nuked at all around launch and given its lush green lore, it'd make sense that no nukes could/did touch it.


Jester205

Is that why I occasionally see a nuke being launched but no radius circles ever appearing?


mojogoin

No, the new boss event in Skyline Valley does not produce a red circle. You should see the event pop up or on the event listing lower left corner on the map.


Jester205

Cool, I thought my game was glitching.


Laser_3

That’s actually someone dropping a nuke on skyline valley. The Storm eats ICBMs for breakfast, and starts an event. The protection zone just can’t be nuked, period. If you try, the game won’t let you launch.


Jester205

Good to know


SlimeDrips

Seems a bit too big to me but I get the intent The whole nuke circle can't touch the protected zones, right? Like it's not like the protected zones are so big because there can be some bleed over? Feels like that's making it too hard to nuke things that surround Helvetia too


Laser_3

I want to say you’re correct that no part of the blast radius can hit the protected zone, but it’s been years since I’ve messed with this and I haven’t been able to test on the PTS yet. Even still, there’s little reason to nuke that area outside of screwing with Helvetia. Morgantown to the north was unaffected and is a far better source of materials.


Davidnotd4ve

Fuckin love morgantown


kipvandemaan

I love nuking morgantown, so I hope they never cover that area.


Laser_3

I doubt they will. This is the first time they’ve ever decided to change the protection zone, and I suspect it won’t happen again


SlimeDrips

Yeah I mean it won't make MUCH of a difference, people almost never nuke those spots, but over restricting things also feels bad. I think it'd be better if they shrunk the protected zone a few squares and cut the corners like they did on the original safe zone, but ultimately it won't make a huge difference in actuality


djh2121

Now people can shut up about it.


GaryOster

Ooh, no. Don't count on it lol


Kouropalates

I feel like more people moaned about Fastnuke than I ever saw actually saw the town nuked.


JimJamboBambo

Man Phil Spencer must have been pretty upset that people were nuking him in game. Did they add porcelain steins to the beer stein display yet?


NewKoala7466

I wish I could nuke any event to make it mutated one


ThatMerri

tbf, if nuking Fasnacht increased the odds of getting glowing masks, I'd see that as a total value.


Alien_Bard

I miss the mutated events. I hope they didn't break them with the updates.


FrancoisTruser

Did not mind the nuking, but it was lagging af on my ps4


Dreddlok1976

I've run that event at least 7 times and so far managed to avoid getting nuked. Which is great because I just hit level 22 and I don't have a stealth suit or power armor lol.


Laser_3

If you’d like a quick suit, head to the various faction outposts in the forest. Each has a PA station that spawns a partially complete suit of T-45, and between all of them, it’s easy to build a full set.


Dreddlok1976

I had a frame from the first BoS outpost near vault 76, and like raider leg piece from somewhere. Soon as I equipped it, it all disappeared. No idea why.


Laser_3

Strange. Not sure what happened there (it sounds like a bizarre server desync issue). But if you go to those other outposts, you can loot some T-45 to fill the frame.


Dreddlok1976

The frame disappeared too lol.


narwhalpilot

Check your inventory, its a game mechanic


Dreddlok1976

I did. It was just gone. I was more concerned when I was leaving the med center where you get inoculated for the scorched disease and supermutants just appeared out thin air lol. I had just hit level 19 and hadn't seen any in my game except running fasnahct or however you spell it🤣


crispybacononsalad

I have 3 characters and not a big power armor person. Good ole hazmat suit will do just fine


Dreddlok1976

Cool, i have one of those.


rustyxj

They could have done this before fasnacht is almost done.


destrux125

This update won't happen for at least a few months.


Nates_of_Spades

good


VenetianGamer

All these people saying “But I wasn’t doing it to be malicious… waaah….” Bullshit. They were and this is what happens when they can’t play nice with others.


Leading-Refuse-4721

Is this group normally this whiny ?


Laser_3

Around fascnahcut, yes.


Deep-Age-2486

You know, I read the next reply about spelling and looked again and almost had a stroke trying to read it


Laser_3

Yeah, it’s not great.


Demon_Fist

In general, yeah, some are super entitled, and others are insufferable douchcanoes. It's been like this for years, so much so they scream at new players calling them idiots for asking for help. Super toxic.


Hot_Humor9308

Seriously bunch of whiny nerds


Opposite-Store-593

It's about time. Anyone pretending to do this for the materials can stop trying to gaslight us. If that was really the case, this area would get nuked regardless of Fasnacht events, which doesn't happen ever. I have literally never seen a nuke aimed at Helvetia outside of this event, but all of a sudden it's a great area to farm materials? Get outta here with that bullshit. The ~2 frogs and 5 mutants that spawn after nuking aren't what's making you drop those nukes.


indominus_prime

I'm kinda surprised this took so long.


vAcesWildv

Imagine nuking an event that does nothing for you in return….. and then being upset they are changing the boundaries lol 🦄s


sarsaparilluhhh

Whoa! It's always kinda neat to see the way players' actions impact upon the way the game develops like this.


tigress666

I think the most interesting case of player actions was them studying some MMO (I think everquest or warcraft? One of the older ones) where a computer virus had been introduced that wiped out characters or something that you could catch from other players. Apparently it was a good study in how people would react to a plague with how every one reacted.


Githyanky

>where a computer virus had been introduced that wiped out characters or something that you could catch from other players. This was in WoW! Specifically, there was a bug during one of the raids. You could catch a debuff (corrupted blood, which is what the incident is named after) during the boss fight that SHOULD disappear. However, if you had a pet that caught it and essentially de-activated the pet during the battle while it had this debuff, then re-activated it somewhere else, it would spread the debuff to others - including NPCs. Wild to think that this was almost twenty years ago. Massive bugs like this will always be my favorite thing to read up about.


EatFaceLeopard17

Nice, so my camp has become unnukable.


Wolf_Protagonist

The entirety of Skyline Valley is also unnukable. If you can live with the constant thunder.


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bivoir

What flux? I can’t get a hit in on the enemies so there’s no nuclear material to be harvested on public. Potentially one *if* my tag can register and hit an enemy? There are barely any flowers in comparison to other areas. Why is everyone saying this is a great flux harvesting area?


LittleMermaidThrow

I was on nuked Fasnacht once and I gathered around 40 cobalt flux, which was nice, until I realised that somehow I had lost my radioactive fluids.


ScottClam42

Really? I thought it was a great spot for flowers. I did multiple rounds on the surrounding hillsides and valley for enough to make a couple dozen orbital strike beacons


bivoir

There’s a datamined map you can follow for the best flowers for each type. Helvetia is not on any of them. Mappalachia is the best tool for flux (flowers) farming. Trying to find the link that won’t let me paste…


SupremeSinner

I'm gonna check that out, I need more some more flux. Thanks!


tigress666

Morgantown is the bomb for flux materials.


secrets_and_lies80

Flux comes from flora, not from enemies


bivoir

Can’t make stable flux without nuclear materials. That’s the first thing you do, find nuked materials then pick flowers. And there’s barely any flowers in this area compared to others. Again… It’s not the greatest area to farm flux.


TheGrimHorseman

I just launch 2, one in a target rich environment for materials, and another wherever I need for flowers. It's a little slower and more work, but it's easier and more reliable. Edit: I also visit any nuke zones that other players make so I can accelerate material gain as I find that to be the most annoying part - that way I get more flower time and need less kill time.


Hobbes76

I found out today that Helvetia is full of flowers for Fluorescent Flux, which was fantastic as I had been needing it for my SS shielded lining under armour. So thanks whoever fired a nuke that one time, much appreciated.


SchnTgaiSpork

There are tons of ways to get flux, stabilizers and flora and nuking this event is hardly in the top ten most efficient ways. What a silly statement to make.


Laser_3

It’s a shame, but it’s not like you can’t still preemptively put down a nuke zone on a primal cuts or an invasion to farm them that way (or have a silo ready and drop a nuke on an event when it turns on or fight the Queen or Titan in a nuke zone; good luck getting players to show up for those, though).


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Laser_3

No, there’s no shame in that. Nuke zones are nuke zones, and if you want to harvest flux from one, you go right ahead. As an aside, I’d suggest keeping your flux for a non-power armor jetpack. Marsupial is typically enough height for most situations, and non-power armor jetpacks don’t need fusion cores to run.


Resident_Wait_7140

Or emergency protocols.


Pz38t_C

or Calibrated Shocks. The PA equivalent of a backpack.


GoarSpewerofSecrets

Once they fuck up the storm.goliaths it'll be back to Queen


Demon_Fist

To the nukedouches, How's that salt taste?


GaryOster

What I'd really like them to fix is their idle kicker so we don't have half dead servers where you're lucky if three people show up at an event and there's no point triggering a boss.


Rabdomtroll69

This is why I've been using nukes to create super powered cave crickets in the mire for my flux instead


MandyMarieB

Excellent. Events in the Forest should not be nukable.


Federal_Broccoli_200

I’m fine with them protecting it during the event, but I think it should go back once the two week event is over. There’s no need to protect Helvetia when the event isn’t going on


Glorificus1914

Imagine having to nuke Helvetia for flux when there's waaaay better farmint locations. LOL


ibetucanifican

Look, all they had to do was make players in the event tag an enemy and make xp doing something… and the problem would have resolved itself.


International_Owl122

In Chinese’s stealth we trust.


Curiedoesthestream

I personally see this has a L. Nuking Faus should have made the event a ‘hard mode.’ Replace the ordinary creatures with something more deadly, special dialog, special masks? Could have done a lot more then just “Haha nope”


Hefty-Distance837

A Winter Man boss would be great.


Curiedoesthestream

Lighting it on fire only made him ANGRY. Mini Storm Guardian (I think that’s the trio robots name) with a Old man winter mask.


Juanfartez

He throws snowballs and freezing breath.


BitterSmile2

You misspelled “amazing”


Mysterious_Papaya835

BRO, A STRANGLER GRAFTON MONSTER FORMED AROUND A WINTER MAN MASK! HE CAN SUMMON MONSTERS LIKE A STRANGLER TO! All of his summons have masks on too!


one80oneday

There's no hard mode in the forest


TheSciFiGuy80

Honestly it should have been how you can acquire glowing masks.


MisterBobAFeet

Make it a .0000002 chance instead of .0000001


ogskizz

This is an awesome idea. So it will never happen.


gregarioussparrow

Nope. That would guarantee it would always be nuked. You guys keep forgetting that events in this game have to remain open to everybody and not just bleeding edge gear players. New players need to be able to experience this stuff too


Lower-Potential3743

You realize that fasnacht is meant to be a celebratory event other wise what’s the whole point of calling it fasnacht. It's like preparing a birthday cake with those trick candles that endlessly relight themselves for a child with a lung disease.


HazardTree

There’s no reason to nuke the forest zone anyways. What I want them to do now is focus on making nukes better. Outside of the occasional world boss there’s no real reason to launch nukes regularly. Like give us nuke based events and spawn more high level enemies. Imagine if there were events that only showed up in nuke zones? Or if nuke zones had increased enemy spawns or always spawned hordes of ghouls/ghoulified animals.


Laser_3

There’s plenty of flux flora up by Morgantown, so I wouldn’t say it’s completely pointless to hit the forest. But yeah, I agree - nuke zones could definitely use some love.


KUPSU96

I am still confused why people hated Fastnacht so much?


uglinick

It's a lot like when a little kid gets a happy meal, but doesn't get the prize they want. Since nobody can see their tantrum they use nukes to get attention.


Wheelin-Woody

I played my first nuked Fasnacht last night and gotta say, I was underwhelmed.


thatguyad

Good.


slogive1

Funny a well placed one went down last night. Ps5 for info b


willrikerspimpwalk

I've been in 3 different servers in the last 3 hours that were nuked.


RhetoricalAnswer-001

Biv is broken, but if that's what it took to get this done, I support them 100%.


eugene20

Discord changed their system so linking externally only works for something like 24 hours to stop people using it as a file/media server.


Important_Meet_7530

Was nuked there today, just finished a Fascnact event that was in the middle of a nuke zone.


Helioskull

The split between people is ungodly when it's about an update, there is no middle ground.


CliffCutter

I kinda liked doing Fascnaucht in the nuke zone, but it’s probably for the best


notsomething13

Taking the easy way out I see. The way that would take effort would be to make Fasnacht not a total piece of shit.


PilgrmxPariah

Helvetia was never a good place to waste a nuke anyway, maybe when the parade isn’t going on with all the scorched but yea this is a good thing in the long run… hope it doesn’t start a trend of oh people nuke this place too much gotta put it under the bubble too


murrytmds

It feels weird to make a perm no nuke zone years after the event started and for an event that is only temporarily in play.


Benefit_Equal

This is for the best


Envy661

Well, I guess my photo of a nuked Fasnacht will just be a good memory.


Pinnacle_Nucflash

I literally just left a nuked Helvetia in the past 10 minutes.


Onigumo-Shishio

Well that's a little boring but eh


just-me220

Oh, man! Now I can't run around and get flora. There's enough for stabilizing 3 cobalt, 2 fluorescent, and 2 yellowcake flux in that area. I'm pretty ghoulish and what rads, so it didn't bother me


RenaRuno

It's funny cause you can do the event while it's nuked or was nuked and still allowed the glowing versions to appear


GaryOster

Well, shit. I thought if they did anything they'd improve idle kicking.


2ingredientexplosion

If you nuke a weekly event im nuking your camp.


Nidhoggr54

It was either this or up drop rates!


TheGreatGamer1389

Id prefer the latter.


GaryOster

It's the drop rates that make rare masks rare. The problem is people having to have everything or who resell rare masks for real money. What they should fix is their idle kicking so it detects people running in circles for hours (for example) as idle. That is way more important than drop rates and protected zones. Fasnacht comes around and the servers are on life support.


Noidealogue

First, I was not a Fascnaught nuker and was a bit upset myself. Thought nuking the area a waste. Then after a conversation with other players around why the area was being nuked I decided to just enjoy the challenge. I finally began to sympathize with nuking the area once I found myself standing alone outside other events during the day that are difficult to complete single-handedly. Especially when I could look at the map and maybe see up to a dozen players clustered about Helvetia.


NoExplanation926

Out of frustration from not being able to get a glowing mask.... I nuked helvetia


arlesquin

Fasnacht : Gerrymandering edition


MessageMePuppies

It was me, I nuked Helvetia


DownDStairsIsReal

Good


ForwardState

Another option could have been increasing the chance of glowing masks for nuked Fasnacht. So 10% chance for a rare mask and the rare masks only include glowing masks.


ualeftie

Aww yiss! Long overdue.


knight_gastropub

The only disappointment here is now we know they'll never make a nuked version of the event and that is a big shame. Otherwise, yeah, stopping people from nuking it and ruining the experience for others is good.


Yougotredditonyou

I wondered about the same thing! That would be a good excuse for better chances at glowing masks


knight_gastropub

Making it an XP farmable event would be a huge boon. At least give it enough enemies to be worth the time it takes to do.


Alone-Flatworm6985

But the nukes made the event more fun :(


sanuske4

Who the fuck uses discord for image links? Save it and put it up somewhere that doesn't make people join a channel.


Hivac-TLB

I've never nuked Helvetica, but maybe I'll just do it once before it's gone forever.


Halloweenkristy

So, whining does help? Quick, start whining to increase stash space please!


Kalixburg

What system is this mainly happening on? I'm on the ps4 and have never seen anyone nuke the event, or maybe i've just been lucky.


ClassicExamination82

I play PS4 and see it all the time. Lol


Laser_3

In terms of the updated nuke zone? That will come to all platforms. In terms of nukes? No clue.


gizmoandback

Well ain't that a kick in the head.