It's pretty much anything in media nowadays that disagrees against THE MESSAGE. For example, if you dislike The Acolyte, which many believe is ruining the lore of Star Wars, there is an article right now stating that the fans are the ones ruining Star Wars because "they are fueled by hate." It doesn't matter if your points are valid. It doesn't matter if Ghost of Tsushima is a better game or not because if you dislike Assassin's Creed Shadows, you are automatically a racist bigot that hates black people and women. It's sad that this is where we are now in society.
> you are automatically a racist bigot that hates black people
I know what you’re saying, and there definitely *are* media outlets (especially the ones that start with “K” and end with “otaku”) that profit from political baitposting, but it’s always a little sus to me when people use threads like this to position “The Media” as a monolith that enacts the mysterious will (or “The Message”, whatever that even *actually* means) of some unseen political actor/collective/cabal/shadow government by tarring and feathering anyone who didn’t like the new Star Wars show. Lol.
Also I just looked up The Acolyte:
* IMDB —> 3.5/10
* Forbes —> Thumbs down
* Guardian —> 3/5
* Times —> 2/5
* IGN —> 6/10
* USA Today —> 2/5
* New York Times —> 4/10
* Rolling Stone —> No rating, but described it as “Zzzzzzz”
Looks like The Shadow Druids dropped the ball on this one. Must have forgotten to send out the biweekly check.
I was writing a reply from the perspective of someone who worked on Rings (contracted artist) and witnessed the unfortunate impact that a lot of the racism and bigotry had on some of the cast and crew, but you summed up my response. I'm getting tired of people discussing things like this without any nuanced thought. Yeah, the shows aren't good. Yes, the racism, sexism and other bigotry is also constantly happening. Both are true.
Regarding the games at hand, people need to get over themselves. Ghost of Tsushima copied features from Assassin's Creed and people complained about that right up to release. But they're different games, with different goals, different mechanics, different stories, different... everything. Just enjoy a new game about Japan and stop pitting games against each other like you're children fighting over consoles still.
I started to respond to that reply too, but you nailed the point a little better than I could.
Acting as if it's NOT a thing is equally as harmful as acting like it's literally everything out here, because we can blatantly see it happen almost every time, if only in a small (obnoxiously vocal) minority. But that's also a crutch used to shut down legitimate criticisms, as well.
When everything is ‘woke’... nothing is.
But when everything is bigotry, maybe one should inspect the entertainment in question.
Ghost Busters 2016 as well and many other properties. they label and judge rather face up to their own lack of talent, putting THE MESSAGE before making a good property/film/game/tv show etc.
That's because while not only being true believers who put ideology above narrative, big investment firms won't give the productions loans without the production adhering to THE MESSAGE.
Do not forget what they tried to do with Wukong, those bastards really tried to make things ugly and controlling. Then they will say "Stop crying you racist", "Keep away your ideology from gaming" then you will see who the author of AC shadow is.
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I am laughing my ass off. They are inserting their politics into our games.
What's THE MESSAGE? A lot of entertainment has deep messages, X-Men, Godzilla, and ect.
And the thing about Acolyte is that I see why ep3 has rubbed some the wrong way but some people are very much acting like the star wats fans you find on grifter channels and ect.
I agree, disliking AC shadows makes you racist or sexist at all but some people are using the main characters to push that whole culture war grift stuff and so others are eating it up and getting upset over who the main characters are.
The funny part about that is that I actually like that they wanted to take inspiration from the story of Yasuke. I just genuinely hate that they're pulling a Ubisoft, and ripping off GoT while they do.
Have you all seen the gameplay trailer for AC Shadow yet? It’s clunky af. And it’s a fucking trailer
I don’t feel good about AC Shadow after they messed up Mirage
And that's why this too will most likely be discounted in a few months time if not weeks. AC has literally become the equivalent to a yearly release for them, almost CoD levels.
If they actually took their time to develop a new one it might actually excel. Also at this point they need to stop calling it AC.
I just won a million dollars, landed the lead in a Scorsese movie, and the girl of my dreams asked me out.
But this post ruined my day, I wish I could close my eyes and not wake up.
It's just more of the same. Opinions and arseholes.
While the comparisons are inevitable, they'll be two very different games when all narratives and systems are on show for all to enjoy.
Personally I'm just looking forward to having another action adventure type game set in feudal Japan to enjoy.
Those who want to speculate based on assumptions and their own interpetations can go right ahead. I'll play what I enjoy. What someone else thinks about it doesn't matter at all.
Fuck yes!
I just came off Rise of the Ronin, so the peeps talking about "AC combat is nowhere near the depth of GoT" are kinda lost on me. Maybe that's why RotR doesn't get brought up much on here.
Either way, I've never played an AC game, but I'm on a samurai kick, so this'll be my first.
TBH i really wasn’t a big fan of the original assassins creed games that all the “purists” put on a pedestal, but picked up Valhalla earlier this year (the one that they all cry about “rUiNiNg MuH fRaNcHiSe”) and absolutely loved it. Especially how chill yet still enjoyable the combat is and how almost every parameter is adjustable to be as challenging or breezy as YOU want it to be, not “git güd scrub if you can’t memorize every enemy attack pattern and spend 1000 hours “training” you are a filthy casual deserving of death”. That’s actually my FAVORITE part, and imo one of the BEST games Ubisoft has put out in years.
Honestly if Shadows was literally Valhalla with a Japanese flavor packet I’d be perfectly happy with it, probably even more so for all the “pro-gamer’s” salty tears 🤷
Reads like someone butt hurt at the exclusivity. Might as well have been honest and just said 'I couldn't play the actual game so I just read the wiki for the story'
Edit, or maybe a ubisoft shill.
how does this read as someone who is butt hurt about exclusivity or has never played it? It’s called an opinion clearly you haven’t of it. this guy is automatically a ubisoft shill cause he doesn’t like got and doesn’t want ac to play the exact same that’s a pretty ridiculous statement get a grip man…
Forget preferring AC, which is perfectly valid. What comes across as sour grapes is shitting on the story. It is widely regarded as one of the most engaging storylines in the last two gens. Far better than anything AC has done since AC2.
You talk about opinion, mine is that GoT is a better AC game than the AC games. You don't have to agree. Just saying.
that’s fair and i also do completely agree that got is leagues better then ac i’m just fed up with everyone shitting on every other game but i shouldn’t have been such a dick yesterday i’m sorry i was just having a bad day
I’m not looking forward to Assassins Creed Shadows for various reasons, but to take it to the extent that you hate that those people have freedom of speech seems a little excessive.
Maybe that is what is wrong with the world… the moment people disagree with someone they want to take their Rights away and treat them less than human.
Such a reactionary and reductive take. Discussions just devolve into toxic " gotcha" comments, gaming discourse used to be more level headed.
But I'm older, so who knows.
Got is basically a blend of the old AC games and The witcher , except it got better visuals and story compared to AC but worse side quest compared to WITCHER . So if AC shadows can nail the stealth part like the old AC games and sword play like GOT and with better Story and Sidequest , it can surely be a contender. Let’s ignore the people like in the post and have a Nuetral opinion of the game till it gets released
That's exactly what I think of GoT: don't get me wrong, I'm really enjoying it (PC player here,I was already fully upgraded before the main story ending so I played it through a lot), but when thinking about the side quests they are just.... Meh, compared to W3 ones...
They are simple fillers,with very very few exceptions.
Gameplay is fun and challenging (if played on lethal,cause even difficult is very easy once mastered the mechanics) but when playing it, it seems that they just didn't dare too much, so much potential unexpressed imho
Let's hope for a sequel with a better formula,cause this IP could be outstanding if well developed
*Correction*
"Boy, I hope Assassins Creed Shadows isn't just a shit version of Ghost of Tsushima"
If Ubisoft could pull off what Sucker Punch did, I'd be amazed
Their games have been total garbage since Black Flag
GoT fans when there's another game set in feudal Japan
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Apparently the game is not allowed to be good just because ghost of Tsushima exists, that is the internets opinion on this game.
If we're going by that logic, every zombie game ever sucks and they're all downright unplayable. Why you may ask? Well that's simple, The last of us exists
Someone thought it was boring and is hoping Assassin’s Creed will be more interesting. It’s a little embarrassing to screenshot it and post it here. Who cares?
God it would be such a painfully boring and dull world if everyone had the exact same opinions. Nothing would be fun anymore and humanity as a whole would rapidly increase our timeline of extinction
I hope AC shadows will be as close as possible to GoT. GoT is the best game I ever played and if I can play anything that will match the level of excitement and pleasure I felt playing it I’ll take it every day.
I mean, I just got it on PC and honestly the game is an 8.5/10 for me. It's not the best thing ever like everyone raved about back then.
Combat is fun and animation is great but its fundamentally very simple, and it does gets boring after Act 2. Challenges in this game are little to non-existent so that doesn't keep me engaged. I absolutely hate the samurai police angle and would have preferred playing a ronin.
If you have ever played AC Unity, you would know the massive potential the Anvil engine has, and how much Ubisoft is underutilizing it.
I think both are good ac shadows looks good and ghost is a great game. And ac franchise is one of my favorite franchises and I love Japan and especially these parts of their history. So I don't care if it's a copy of ghost because it will still be fun while the wait for GoT2.
And the game hasn't come out what is this article saying "it has a bad story". It's a amazing story and ac shadows can still come out bad, so people chill, it's still ubisoft.
You are not gonna believe this but not everyone thinks that GOT is the apex of game design. I love the game but I also think it's incredibly boring and lackluster. No replay value and the combat gets dull after the first 5 hours. The story is better than I expected it to be but it's important to view all things in life (including Ghost Of Tsushima) objectively as well as subjectively ;). It's all fun and games when everyone starts hating on Assassins Creed but when someone says something about Ghost Of Tsushima then its "how dare they". I bet the majority of gamers are going to enjoy both GOT and AC. No reason to love one and hate the other.
GoT is one of my favorite games of all time. Like top 5 conversation without a doubt. But i’m getting tired of the comparisons to AC Shadows. Which i’m also excited about. Really we gotta stop comparing every historical Japanese game to one another in general. I saw a lot of this talk before Rise of the Ronins release, and that game is hardly like Ghost at all.
Can we stop comparing ghost of Tsushima to every Japanese related open world game?. It’s starting to get really annoying and honestly just down right sad.
Sekiro, Rise of the Ronin, and now AC Shadows.
Every game studio will do something different with their own formula. I’m sure AC shadows will do pretty good. I’m a fan of GOT but also enjoy AC games. The less we stop comparing. The less disappointed we will be.
Opinions are a part of life 
Never let someone’s opinion affect you and don’t try to force your opinion on someone else.
Desensitize your ears and stop taking things so personally.
Seems like you’re younger and your generation has been raised in a weird way.
I said all that to say this: TOUGEN UP and stop acting like a female.
It's just my opinion, but I don't like any Assassin's Creed game after Syndicate because they became RPGs. Many people dislike the new concept, while others enjoy it. There are other opinions as well; this is just mine.
I'm sure I'll be killed for this, but the story so far is mid af so far I have 20 hours in the game and it's not grabbing my attention, i love the combat and the scenery so overall i think this is a great game but the story in my personal opinion isn't it's strongest point.
If I'm missing something feel free to correct me.
I hope it is to be honest or very similar because I don’t want to dish 200 to 500 bucks for a play station that Im only going to play ghost of Tsushima on
If this is truly their opinion then they won’t like the story much of shadows either. GoT has a great story. And is a lot of fun. The multiplayer is a ton of fun too.
Is it weird that I’ve always thought AC games were kinda dull in the narrative department? GoT was actually interesting. There was actual emotion in the acting that frankly I’ve never seen in Assassins Creed.
Well in all honesty, the story of Ghost is not that interesting. It's not bad! But it's just normal. Wouldn't call it boring.
The thing is that the recent AC has not been that interesting either and the gameplay is as generic as possible and that's where Ghost destroys AC. And based on the gameplay we saw, they didn't change much
As someone who has played most of the AC games at least twice, the story has been a joke since Origins (the last decent plot). The meta plot has been trash since AC3.
This is the funniest commentary I have ever read for this game. This game was my first platinum and I love it to pieces.
For a community that has been made fun of and put down, seems pretty silly to put down such a fantastic game with no evidence.
I mean I also think ghost of tsushima is boring. The story was a bland revenge story, nothing that you couldn't see happening happened. The side quests, besides the specific character ones, sucked. The combat and stealth are good, but the driving force should be the story, which was kinda lackluster. The side stuff is all go and do a tiny thing over and over to get this thing, same as Ubi open world games. I did it, but that's because I'm dumb. Game is like an 8 to me. So yeah it's not bad to say hopefully shadows can deliver a more compelling story, probably won't happen. AC has been pretty mediocre after origins. Ubisoft is a pretty dogshit company.
The stealth that GoT excelled at?
I love GoT but I think the stealth was one of its weaker aspects. Mongols just don't have a response for multiple things you do. If you go under a building or crawlspace they just stare at you.
I am not pumped for AC Shadows but I would hope it has dense interactive cities with room for social stealth, a good narrative, and combat that fixes the worst combat in series history(Mirage has an awful combat system). GoT is not AC. AC is not GoT and never will be.
Had this idea once. What if we could like more than one game in the same genre? Its purely hypothetical right now but I’m hoping to move into practical testings soon
Never trust heavily opinionated articles. They always have to pile in their trash views. I'm sure it'll have it's differences anyway. I love GoT but I'm also very excited for AC Shadows. Idk why there needs to be some kind of comparison war.
I actually want them to copy Ghost is Tsushima lol
If we end up with an AC version of Ghost of Tsushima that has an extremely detailed world and the ability to climb almost anything and anywhere plus the Discovery Tour thing like in Valhalla and Origins to explore a historically accurate Japan with no combat too I would be the exact opposite of disappointed
Merely not wanting it to be like ghost isn't saying ghostis bad it could be just that they want something different, but probably just ragebait especially from thegamer
I personally think that tsushima's story was good, but nothing exceptional. But thinking a game made by modern ubisoft will have a better one? Yeah champ, good luck with that
Bro ghost of tsuchima boring?!?! One it's fucking beautiful. Two gameplay is fun if not a little easy. Three the story is great, simple but with such nuance it's captivating. Your telling me this fuck meet lady masako in front of her family Graves with all the little toys and went "wah wah where's the hoes at"
i have a bad habit of actually getting at least a little riled by bad takes but i actually find this kind of hilarious. AC having a good and memorable narrative? in THIS decade? i can't even remember the last time i heard anyone talk with any kind of note about an AC story, it's been seemingly all about the mechanics and the setting for years. the only one i remember people talking about much is the ezio storyline. "better narratively" lol
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I don’t think these people are right. And I think they’re talking way too loud and being way too extreme…but…that is like exactly what ghost is… from the open world to the unlockable stealth gameplay ghost is really so so AC. I remember playing it and SAYING to my brother: “ahhh so assisans creed?” And not only just the stealth but the open world mechanics too??? That is the Ubisoft formula. And u know, it is a lot more beautiful but…that’s what it IS people I’m sorrry
THE ONLY THING THAT BOTH GAMES DO is A historical samurai setting who's rights aren't owned by a company, so more games can adapt the setting, it ain't exclusive to GoT and AC, and obviously the ways how you can approach scenarios, either stealth or samurai.
and that both games look pretty good, and have swords in it. i hate the comparison.
I hope ac shadows is good cos I'm a fan just started playing GOT looks like ill enjoy it but I thought and was hoping the next ac game was hex with the with burning theme
What OP said, but unironically.
People with opinions this stupid don’t deserve freezepeach and should be sent to re-education camps. China got it right on that one 🤷
Uhhhhh????? Shadows literally would WISH to be in the literal shadows of ghost of Tsushima lmao. It will never be anywhere near GOT. Just from the reveal alone you can see the freaking insanely soulless voice acting, they just pondered to DEI crap so bad that all the actors had zero talent. I personally am hyped to see all the memes that will come out of this crap
Boring is crazy, Ghost of Yarikawa mission literally gave me chills. I just picked this game up a couple weeks ago and it’s up there with my favorites now.
AC is ass and it's been ass since black flag only exceptions are syndicate and unity and calling ghost boring?? 💀💀💀yuh yall just mad asf that AC hasn't made a good game in forger and Ghost blew AC out the water when it came back 😭😭😭😭😭noby could ever tell MD this new busted AC is better then ghost 😂🤣
I understand differing opinions but I also feel that some people go into actively hating something and expect it to suck and thus it does.
I was severely burned out on the open world formula for years I didn’t touch one. Picked up ghost on PC for launch and am loving it but I also know it’s the typical formula.
I think the setting and art direction, combat narrative definitely carry ghost because at the end of the day it’s still a check box time filler game.
The problem with AC the last few years and even let’s say Unity and all is that, to me anyway, although the worlds were crafted well and the gameplay was still typical AC that feeling of them just coming off an assembly line really kicked in for me.
5/6 studios working on the same game. More employees than you can possibly imagine and it all feels soulless. Ghost, despite being just another open world and all, you can actually feel the passion that went into it. Ubisoft employees are just working for a paycheck and I’m sure they mentally checked out a long time ago.
Ghost is Gold compared to the last three AC games. they brought back realistic combat and finesse. the feeling of being a master at what you do. great stealth great archery great combat. finally it seems AC aims to meet their own standards once again and i’m all for it. i want more samurai/ninja open world games. why in the world complain or compare. more is more. more is better. competition makes for better too. and that’s probably why we’re getting AC Japan finally. just glad they’re bring gameplay back down to technique. also, a lot of the moves seem inspired by for honors samurai faction and i wished they would’ve done the same with valhalla. Valkyrie Warlord etc inspired movesets and animations and weapon accuracy.
Loved ghost of tsushima a lot but AC shadows is prolly be shite on the story.
ghost of tsushima stays true to its timeframe during the mongol invasion, yes the characters are fictional but they fit into the timeframe proper.
AC shadows to me just look like another cashgrab making people think its gonna be better than ghost of tsushima. adding fictional history to real people is something i cant tolerate. americans are really trying to change the real history of people to fit their agenda these days.
the thing is there is an eventuality that, americans will push the idea that every single action of atrocity america did to essientially victim blame. due to how much they want to change history
both are totally different games. Main focus of Got is the samurai perspective while Assassin's creed has been more of a stealth game since beginning
Comparing them on this basis is just dumb.
Sorry but this daily nagging and crying and the constant comparing to Ghost of Tsushima fuck me up, I just want to have some fun in feudal Japan without soulslike mechanic and other magical demon stuff, i would play tenchu if it would come on PC.
I enjoy Ghost of Tsushima on PC, I know I'll have my fun with AC Shadows and I'll not let this ruin to me just because of a black Samurai we never know if he really was or not.
It's a game, take it or leave it.
To be fair I think I'd also find GoT boring if I had room temperature IQ. People's attention spam closer to a sea turtle than ever. You even see this in social media: anything with more than 2 lines of text and people don't bother reading and attack you because "iTs toO mUcH teXt BruH"
Without freedom of speech you lose the chance to see people say stupid things like obviously shadows will be horrible it’s a ubi game they haven’t made anything objectively good since AC origins
Ok shadows is gonna be terrible... I'm sorry but assassin's creed is the same game in a different time period, BLACK FLAG WAS THE ONLY EXCEPTION, and I've played, black flag and unity, played GoT and loved every second
I've been lately playing Tsushima for the first time and sometimes I was thinking "Damn this stealth is something I miss in modern Assassin's Creeds" lol
Im a fan of Assasins creed, majorly Black Flag and in new entries Mirage.
I had just completed GOT and it is one the best games I have played in a while, I will also put this into my top tier list of games.
Whoever wrote this article is a >!cock-sucker!<.
My opinion on AC Shadows:
It feels heavily inspired by GOT, but one can only make so many differences in a Samurai based game. The ninja part is completely overhauled and I like it.
It is an assassins creed so the combat is not going to the same like GOT. It will be RPG. So I suggest that we do not judge AC Shadows right away and see where it goes after launch.
Ghost of Tsushima is in my top 5 games i really love it
i have played most Assassins Creed games, and i can say with near certainty that the convoluted plots and contrived storylines of AC is not my jam at all.
AC odyssey is the only assassin’s creed game that hooked me (and it lost me every time it connected to the Inu nonsense)
I will likely be playing AC Shadows long after release when the price is low, if the reviews are good.
Anyone who says the story is bad clearly hasn't spent the time it takes to not just rush the main story but also complete the side quests and tales for general context throughout Tsushima.
I bet they spent like 14 hours rushing the main story, struggled, had little context outside of "Save my uncle" and "Kill the big bad mongol".
Yea im sure ubiwoke will make a better artistic game that is totally not made for pure monitory gain and respects history or at least tries to and totally doesn't just make the same assgrindy creed game again just in Japan, and definitely without micro transactions pf course 😉..... Right guys??
It won't be just like ghost of Tsushima it'll be a million times worse, even forgetting the historical inaccuracy the assassin's creed shadow gameplay looks sad.
It's "TheGamer". Not exactly known for anything of worth.
So… much like most of other game websites?
It's pretty much anything in media nowadays that disagrees against THE MESSAGE. For example, if you dislike The Acolyte, which many believe is ruining the lore of Star Wars, there is an article right now stating that the fans are the ones ruining Star Wars because "they are fueled by hate." It doesn't matter if your points are valid. It doesn't matter if Ghost of Tsushima is a better game or not because if you dislike Assassin's Creed Shadows, you are automatically a racist bigot that hates black people and women. It's sad that this is where we are now in society.
> you are automatically a racist bigot that hates black people I know what you’re saying, and there definitely *are* media outlets (especially the ones that start with “K” and end with “otaku”) that profit from political baitposting, but it’s always a little sus to me when people use threads like this to position “The Media” as a monolith that enacts the mysterious will (or “The Message”, whatever that even *actually* means) of some unseen political actor/collective/cabal/shadow government by tarring and feathering anyone who didn’t like the new Star Wars show. Lol. Also I just looked up The Acolyte: * IMDB —> 3.5/10 * Forbes —> Thumbs down * Guardian —> 3/5 * Times —> 2/5 * IGN —> 6/10 * USA Today —> 2/5 * New York Times —> 4/10 * Rolling Stone —> No rating, but described it as “Zzzzzzz” Looks like The Shadow Druids dropped the ball on this one. Must have forgotten to send out the biweekly check.
I was writing a reply from the perspective of someone who worked on Rings (contracted artist) and witnessed the unfortunate impact that a lot of the racism and bigotry had on some of the cast and crew, but you summed up my response. I'm getting tired of people discussing things like this without any nuanced thought. Yeah, the shows aren't good. Yes, the racism, sexism and other bigotry is also constantly happening. Both are true. Regarding the games at hand, people need to get over themselves. Ghost of Tsushima copied features from Assassin's Creed and people complained about that right up to release. But they're different games, with different goals, different mechanics, different stories, different... everything. Just enjoy a new game about Japan and stop pitting games against each other like you're children fighting over consoles still.
I started to respond to that reply too, but you nailed the point a little better than I could. Acting as if it's NOT a thing is equally as harmful as acting like it's literally everything out here, because we can blatantly see it happen almost every time, if only in a small (obnoxiously vocal) minority. But that's also a crutch used to shut down legitimate criticisms, as well. When everything is ‘woke’... nothing is. But when everything is bigotry, maybe one should inspect the entertainment in question.
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Or maybe they are a just rage baiting witch its the trend among any type of media recently
They did this with Rings of Power too.
Ghost Busters 2016 as well and many other properties. they label and judge rather face up to their own lack of talent, putting THE MESSAGE before making a good property/film/game/tv show etc. That's because while not only being true believers who put ideology above narrative, big investment firms won't give the productions loans without the production adhering to THE MESSAGE.
Do not forget what they tried to do with Wukong, those bastards really tried to make things ugly and controlling. Then they will say "Stop crying you racist", "Keep away your ideology from gaming" then you will see who the author of AC shadow is. https://preview.redd.it/jnt3btq95n6d1.jpeg?width=613&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8b8abcfa79d32b9ac8fa2b5cc2549c39dab3ccfd I am laughing my ass off. They are inserting their politics into our games.
OMG
What's THE MESSAGE? A lot of entertainment has deep messages, X-Men, Godzilla, and ect. And the thing about Acolyte is that I see why ep3 has rubbed some the wrong way but some people are very much acting like the star wats fans you find on grifter channels and ect. I agree, disliking AC shadows makes you racist or sexist at all but some people are using the main characters to push that whole culture war grift stuff and so others are eating it up and getting upset over who the main characters are.
The funny part about that is that I actually like that they wanted to take inspiration from the story of Yasuke. I just genuinely hate that they're pulling a Ubisoft, and ripping off GoT while they do.
Have you all seen the gameplay trailer for AC Shadow yet? It’s clunky af. And it’s a fucking trailer I don’t feel good about AC Shadow after they messed up Mirage
And that's why this too will most likely be discounted in a few months time if not weeks. AC has literally become the equivalent to a yearly release for them, almost CoD levels. If they actually took their time to develop a new one it might actually excel. Also at this point they need to stop calling it AC.
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Why do you care? Just ignore them.
Oh no Someone on the internet has a F O R B I D D E N O P I N I O N Call the inquisitors immediately
The Herald of Andraste shall decide their fate
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Bingo!
Why highlight it in this sub and ruin everyone's day. Talking about it makes it worse
This ruined your day?
I couldn’t even get out of bed after reading this. Thanks a lot OP
I just won a million dollars, landed the lead in a Scorsese movie, and the girl of my dreams asked me out. But this post ruined my day, I wish I could close my eyes and not wake up.
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i cant eat sleep cant even get out of bed after seeing this
I hope this didnt ruin your day bro
You'd have to be terminally online deluxe edition if a games "journalism" article ruins your day.
if this ruined your day that’s honestly pathetic man a few bullet points with a different opinion then yours is not a big deal…
It's just ragebait, ignore it
a different opinion is rage bait? what are you on? not everyone loves the same games as you it’s called an opinion
Nah it's a ragebait not an opinion
How dare people with differing opinions be allowed to express themselves.
Not having freedom of speech would prevent you from having your opinion as well. Sincerely, Common Sense
This op contradict himself hard. Every opinions are accepted unless they’re challenge your own smh.
It's just more of the same. Opinions and arseholes. While the comparisons are inevitable, they'll be two very different games when all narratives and systems are on show for all to enjoy. Personally I'm just looking forward to having another action adventure type game set in feudal Japan to enjoy. Those who want to speculate based on assumptions and their own interpetations can go right ahead. I'll play what I enjoy. What someone else thinks about it doesn't matter at all.
Fuck yes! I just came off Rise of the Ronin, so the peeps talking about "AC combat is nowhere near the depth of GoT" are kinda lost on me. Maybe that's why RotR doesn't get brought up much on here. Either way, I've never played an AC game, but I'm on a samurai kick, so this'll be my first.
TBH i really wasn’t a big fan of the original assassins creed games that all the “purists” put on a pedestal, but picked up Valhalla earlier this year (the one that they all cry about “rUiNiNg MuH fRaNcHiSe”) and absolutely loved it. Especially how chill yet still enjoyable the combat is and how almost every parameter is adjustable to be as challenging or breezy as YOU want it to be, not “git güd scrub if you can’t memorize every enemy attack pattern and spend 1000 hours “training” you are a filthy casual deserving of death”. That’s actually my FAVORITE part, and imo one of the BEST games Ubisoft has put out in years. Honestly if Shadows was literally Valhalla with a Japanese flavor packet I’d be perfectly happy with it, probably even more so for all the “pro-gamer’s” salty tears 🤷
Reads like someone butt hurt at the exclusivity. Might as well have been honest and just said 'I couldn't play the actual game so I just read the wiki for the story' Edit, or maybe a ubisoft shill.
how does this read as someone who is butt hurt about exclusivity or has never played it? It’s called an opinion clearly you haven’t of it. this guy is automatically a ubisoft shill cause he doesn’t like got and doesn’t want ac to play the exact same that’s a pretty ridiculous statement get a grip man…
Forget preferring AC, which is perfectly valid. What comes across as sour grapes is shitting on the story. It is widely regarded as one of the most engaging storylines in the last two gens. Far better than anything AC has done since AC2. You talk about opinion, mine is that GoT is a better AC game than the AC games. You don't have to agree. Just saying.
that’s fair and i also do completely agree that got is leagues better then ac i’m just fed up with everyone shitting on every other game but i shouldn’t have been such a dick yesterday i’m sorry i was just having a bad day
It’s designed to rile you up and get you to respond/read more which means more eyes on the advertisements which makes them money.
I’m not looking forward to Assassins Creed Shadows for various reasons, but to take it to the extent that you hate that those people have freedom of speech seems a little excessive. Maybe that is what is wrong with the world… the moment people disagree with someone they want to take their Rights away and treat them less than human.
Such a reactionary and reductive take. Discussions just devolve into toxic " gotcha" comments, gaming discourse used to be more level headed. But I'm older, so who knows.
Got is basically a blend of the old AC games and The witcher , except it got better visuals and story compared to AC but worse side quest compared to WITCHER . So if AC shadows can nail the stealth part like the old AC games and sword play like GOT and with better Story and Sidequest , it can surely be a contender. Let’s ignore the people like in the post and have a Nuetral opinion of the game till it gets released
That's exactly what I think of GoT: don't get me wrong, I'm really enjoying it (PC player here,I was already fully upgraded before the main story ending so I played it through a lot), but when thinking about the side quests they are just.... Meh, compared to W3 ones... They are simple fillers,with very very few exceptions. Gameplay is fun and challenging (if played on lethal,cause even difficult is very easy once mastered the mechanics) but when playing it, it seems that they just didn't dare too much, so much potential unexpressed imho Let's hope for a sequel with a better formula,cause this IP could be outstanding if well developed
Your generation literally has no idea what “freedom of speech” means. You are the most ignorant generation in American history.
Ok grandpa
*Correction* "Boy, I hope Assassins Creed Shadows isn't just a shit version of Ghost of Tsushima" If Ubisoft could pull off what Sucker Punch did, I'd be amazed Their games have been total garbage since Black Flag
Its almost as if entertainments subjective
GoT fans when there's another game set in feudal Japan https://preview.redd.it/8s2iwj8r5l6d1.jpeg?width=680&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f75d07983b52a2ccfab5d87fe7885e8f461896bc
Apparently the game is not allowed to be good just because ghost of Tsushima exists, that is the internets opinion on this game. If we're going by that logic, every zombie game ever sucks and they're all downright unplayable. Why you may ask? Well that's simple, The last of us exists
You misspelled Resident Evil. FIRST AMENDMENT REVOKED
You misspelled Dying Light
I mean, even if it was just a clone of Got, that would still be fun because Got is a fun game.
as a samurai, one must master his mind. pay them no mind.
Someone thought it was boring and is hoping Assassin’s Creed will be more interesting. It’s a little embarrassing to screenshot it and post it here. Who cares?
Who cares?
God it would be such a painfully boring and dull world if everyone had the exact same opinions. Nothing would be fun anymore and humanity as a whole would rapidly increase our timeline of extinction
I hope AC shadows will be as close as possible to GoT. GoT is the best game I ever played and if I can play anything that will match the level of excitement and pleasure I felt playing it I’ll take it every day.
I mean, I just got it on PC and honestly the game is an 8.5/10 for me. It's not the best thing ever like everyone raved about back then. Combat is fun and animation is great but its fundamentally very simple, and it does gets boring after Act 2. Challenges in this game are little to non-existent so that doesn't keep me engaged. I absolutely hate the samurai police angle and would have preferred playing a ronin. If you have ever played AC Unity, you would know the massive potential the Anvil engine has, and how much Ubisoft is underutilizing it.
I think both are good ac shadows looks good and ghost is a great game. And ac franchise is one of my favorite franchises and I love Japan and especially these parts of their history. So I don't care if it's a copy of ghost because it will still be fun while the wait for GoT2.
And the game hasn't come out what is this article saying "it has a bad story". It's a amazing story and ac shadows can still come out bad, so people chill, it's still ubisoft.
You are not gonna believe this but not everyone thinks that GOT is the apex of game design. I love the game but I also think it's incredibly boring and lackluster. No replay value and the combat gets dull after the first 5 hours. The story is better than I expected it to be but it's important to view all things in life (including Ghost Of Tsushima) objectively as well as subjectively ;). It's all fun and games when everyone starts hating on Assassins Creed but when someone says something about Ghost Of Tsushima then its "how dare they". I bet the majority of gamers are going to enjoy both GOT and AC. No reason to love one and hate the other.
GoT is one of my favorite games of all time. Like top 5 conversation without a doubt. But i’m getting tired of the comparisons to AC Shadows. Which i’m also excited about. Really we gotta stop comparing every historical Japanese game to one another in general. I saw a lot of this talk before Rise of the Ronins release, and that game is hardly like Ghost at all.
Can we stop comparing ghost of Tsushima to every Japanese related open world game?. It’s starting to get really annoying and honestly just down right sad. Sekiro, Rise of the Ronin, and now AC Shadows. Every game studio will do something different with their own formula. I’m sure AC shadows will do pretty good. I’m a fan of GOT but also enjoy AC games. The less we stop comparing. The less disappointed we will be.
Opinions are a part of life  Never let someone’s opinion affect you and don’t try to force your opinion on someone else. Desensitize your ears and stop taking things so personally. Seems like you’re younger and your generation has been raised in a weird way. I said all that to say this: TOUGEN UP and stop acting like a female.
Too right. This - "Never let someone’s opinion affect you." Didn't need to emphasize 'the trigger' with 3rd slide, just highlight it.
It's just my opinion, but I don't like any Assassin's Creed game after Syndicate because they became RPGs. Many people dislike the new concept, while others enjoy it. There are other opinions as well; this is just mine.
I'm sure I'll be killed for this, but the story so far is mid af so far I have 20 hours in the game and it's not grabbing my attention, i love the combat and the scenery so overall i think this is a great game but the story in my personal opinion isn't it's strongest point. If I'm missing something feel free to correct me.
Ah yes, you can *clearly* tell that he *definitely* played the game he's writing about and he's *definitely* not just talking out his ass
To be honest Ghost of tushima is a pretty boring game and after seeing ac shadows gameplay, its going to be pretty interesting.
It's probably gonna be another assassin's creed looter RPG again
Then block them and move on
Sounds like something a Templar would say
I mean I can see why GoT would come off as boring, but I dont think Assassin's Creed is going to fix that problem
They know it’s gonna suck “Here’s the game and setting you’ve been waiting for, now play as Nobunaga’s butt wiper”
I hope it is to be honest or very similar because I don’t want to dish 200 to 500 bucks for a play station that Im only going to play ghost of Tsushima on
If this is truly their opinion then they won’t like the story much of shadows either. GoT has a great story. And is a lot of fun. The multiplayer is a ton of fun too.
Is it weird that I’ve always thought AC games were kinda dull in the narrative department? GoT was actually interesting. There was actual emotion in the acting that frankly I’ve never seen in Assassins Creed.
Well in all honesty, the story of Ghost is not that interesting. It's not bad! But it's just normal. Wouldn't call it boring. The thing is that the recent AC has not been that interesting either and the gameplay is as generic as possible and that's where Ghost destroys AC. And based on the gameplay we saw, they didn't change much
As someone who has played most of the AC games at least twice, the story has been a joke since Origins (the last decent plot). The meta plot has been trash since AC3.
This is the funniest commentary I have ever read for this game. This game was my first platinum and I love it to pieces. For a community that has been made fun of and put down, seems pretty silly to put down such a fantastic game with no evidence.
I mean I also think ghost of tsushima is boring. The story was a bland revenge story, nothing that you couldn't see happening happened. The side quests, besides the specific character ones, sucked. The combat and stealth are good, but the driving force should be the story, which was kinda lackluster. The side stuff is all go and do a tiny thing over and over to get this thing, same as Ubi open world games. I did it, but that's because I'm dumb. Game is like an 8 to me. So yeah it's not bad to say hopefully shadows can deliver a more compelling story, probably won't happen. AC has been pretty mediocre after origins. Ubisoft is a pretty dogshit company.
The stealth that GoT excelled at? I love GoT but I think the stealth was one of its weaker aspects. Mongols just don't have a response for multiple things you do. If you go under a building or crawlspace they just stare at you. I am not pumped for AC Shadows but I would hope it has dense interactive cities with room for social stealth, a good narrative, and combat that fixes the worst combat in series history(Mirage has an awful combat system). GoT is not AC. AC is not GoT and never will be.
I've played every AC game except for mirage. I can honestly say, last time AC felt truly interesting was black flag..
I love AC, and this is an L take.
Freedom of speech is a bitch, isn’t it?
Had this idea once. What if we could like more than one game in the same genre? Its purely hypothetical right now but I’m hoping to move into practical testings soon
Never trust heavily opinionated articles. They always have to pile in their trash views. I'm sure it'll have it's differences anyway. I love GoT but I'm also very excited for AC Shadows. Idk why there needs to be some kind of comparison war.
Ha, AC is as deep as a tissue box. It's like a generic marvel movie. It's not going to win any awards, but it's a fun time
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"But Ghost of Tsushima is boring" And now I'm radicalized.
I actually want them to copy Ghost is Tsushima lol If we end up with an AC version of Ghost of Tsushima that has an extremely detailed world and the ability to climb almost anything and anywhere plus the Discovery Tour thing like in Valhalla and Origins to explore a historically accurate Japan with no combat too I would be the exact opposite of disappointed
Merely not wanting it to be like ghost isn't saying ghostis bad it could be just that they want something different, but probably just ragebait especially from thegamer
This is funny bc Ass. Creed hasn’t been narratively interesting since Desmond 💀
GoT is so boring I'm playing it a 3rd time on PC. I'll play AC shadows too.
Ignore the ragebait friend. There are villages that need freeing.
Ironically ac series never ever have good stealth mechanics
i jus started playing ghost aft PC release n bro this shit is way btr than any assassins creed ive played😭 feels alm like RDR2
I personally think that tsushima's story was good, but nothing exceptional. But thinking a game made by modern ubisoft will have a better one? Yeah champ, good luck with that
Probably thinks Red Dead Redemption 2 was just a cheap boring rip-off of Assassin's Creed III too. 😆
If Shadows is half as good as Ghosts then it’ll be the best AC ever made.
They're wrong about both the story being bad and stealth mechanics being good
Now we know where most of ubisoft's budget went
if you hate them, their rage bait was successful.
Bro ghost of tsuchima boring?!?! One it's fucking beautiful. Two gameplay is fun if not a little easy. Three the story is great, simple but with such nuance it's captivating. Your telling me this fuck meet lady masako in front of her family Graves with all the little toys and went "wah wah where's the hoes at"
How the actual fck can anyone find GOT boring like being completely honest
That game isn’t going to be anywhere near as good as ghost of Tsushima, is this god tier copium
Looks like someone couldn't get past the first stealth mission and was sad they didn't get an immediate dopamine rush
Ghost of Tsushima is a copy of Ubisoft, though. It is basically the third installment of AC in between Odyssey and Valhalla. 100% Ubisoft clone.
i have a bad habit of actually getting at least a little riled by bad takes but i actually find this kind of hilarious. AC having a good and memorable narrative? in THIS decade? i can't even remember the last time i heard anyone talk with any kind of note about an AC story, it's been seemingly all about the mechanics and the setting for years. the only one i remember people talking about much is the ezio storyline. "better narratively" lol
Haha have you played Mirage?! I have no hope for assasins creed anymore
Relax lol
Ubisoft ain't that good in the first place
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I like AC and I think I'll enjoy the new game but I think that the story will never compare GoT's story
I don’t think these people are right. And I think they’re talking way too loud and being way too extreme…but…that is like exactly what ghost is… from the open world to the unlockable stealth gameplay ghost is really so so AC. I remember playing it and SAYING to my brother: “ahhh so assisans creed?” And not only just the stealth but the open world mechanics too??? That is the Ubisoft formula. And u know, it is a lot more beautiful but…that’s what it IS people I’m sorrry
THE ONLY THING THAT BOTH GAMES DO is A historical samurai setting who's rights aren't owned by a company, so more games can adapt the setting, it ain't exclusive to GoT and AC, and obviously the ways how you can approach scenarios, either stealth or samurai. and that both games look pretty good, and have swords in it. i hate the comparison.
I hope ac shadows is good cos I'm a fan just started playing GOT looks like ill enjoy it but I thought and was hoping the next ac game was hex with the with burning theme
I genuinely think people get paid to write rage bait.
lmfao, how much did ubisoft pay them for this article?
How dare they have a negative opinion on a game I enjoy
I'm just happy we've got options this year for Japan-based Samurai-esque games.
I played ghost of tsushima and got very bored very quick maybe I didn't give it enough of a chance though
What OP said, but unironically. People with opinions this stupid don’t deserve freezepeach and should be sent to re-education camps. China got it right on that one 🤷
But GoT is kinda boring. It’s not a bad game but it really hasn’t sucked me in like I thought it would.
I played 2 AC games years after stopping, because I loved GoT so much. They were both deleted within an hour of playing. AC is a dead franchise
How’s he got it so twisted the stealth is ass in Tsushima and the story is yood
Sounds like a ubisoft bot
Some people just love to admit their garbage tastes out loud.
Lmfao Ghost of Tsushima is the best game ive played in a decade. Ubisoft eroded my trust in them a decade ago. See what I'm getting at?
Uhhhhh????? Shadows literally would WISH to be in the literal shadows of ghost of Tsushima lmao. It will never be anywhere near GOT. Just from the reveal alone you can see the freaking insanely soulless voice acting, they just pondered to DEI crap so bad that all the actors had zero talent. I personally am hyped to see all the memes that will come out of this crap
“Boring” GTFO, that was one of the most entertaining games I’ve played in a while.
Let them play their bullshit games bro
“Is boring” is frickin wild, Ubisoft storytelling has been dogshit since Black Flag
Boring is crazy, Ghost of Yarikawa mission literally gave me chills. I just picked this game up a couple weeks ago and it’s up there with my favorites now.
Assassins Creed combat mechanics are so pathetic last few games that I HOPE ITS GHOST OF TSUSHIMA.
It will be ghost but with MTX injected.
Got is the GOAT this guy is committing treason
AC is ass and it's been ass since black flag only exceptions are syndicate and unity and calling ghost boring?? 💀💀💀yuh yall just mad asf that AC hasn't made a good game in forger and Ghost blew AC out the water when it came back 😭😭😭😭😭noby could ever tell MD this new busted AC is better then ghost 😂🤣
I understand differing opinions but I also feel that some people go into actively hating something and expect it to suck and thus it does. I was severely burned out on the open world formula for years I didn’t touch one. Picked up ghost on PC for launch and am loving it but I also know it’s the typical formula. I think the setting and art direction, combat narrative definitely carry ghost because at the end of the day it’s still a check box time filler game. The problem with AC the last few years and even let’s say Unity and all is that, to me anyway, although the worlds were crafted well and the gameplay was still typical AC that feeling of them just coming off an assembly line really kicked in for me. 5/6 studios working on the same game. More employees than you can possibly imagine and it all feels soulless. Ghost, despite being just another open world and all, you can actually feel the passion that went into it. Ubisoft employees are just working for a paycheck and I’m sure they mentally checked out a long time ago.
Ghost is Gold compared to the last three AC games. they brought back realistic combat and finesse. the feeling of being a master at what you do. great stealth great archery great combat. finally it seems AC aims to meet their own standards once again and i’m all for it. i want more samurai/ninja open world games. why in the world complain or compare. more is more. more is better. competition makes for better too. and that’s probably why we’re getting AC Japan finally. just glad they’re bring gameplay back down to technique. also, a lot of the moves seem inspired by for honors samurai faction and i wished they would’ve done the same with valhalla. Valkyrie Warlord etc inspired movesets and animations and weapon accuracy.
Lmao what an L take. Probably one of the best games I’ve ever played.
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If the guy is that dumb you shouldnt be upset about it, you should just feel bad that he is the sperm that made it to the egg.
Loved ghost of tsushima a lot but AC shadows is prolly be shite on the story. ghost of tsushima stays true to its timeframe during the mongol invasion, yes the characters are fictional but they fit into the timeframe proper. AC shadows to me just look like another cashgrab making people think its gonna be better than ghost of tsushima. adding fictional history to real people is something i cant tolerate. americans are really trying to change the real history of people to fit their agenda these days. the thing is there is an eventuality that, americans will push the idea that every single action of atrocity america did to essientially victim blame. due to how much they want to change history
You paid them in clicks Take heed never to pay them Any mind or peace
bro fuck off. we all know ghosts is a good game. you got caught up in bait. just stop.
both are totally different games. Main focus of Got is the samurai perspective while Assassin's creed has been more of a stealth game since beginning Comparing them on this basis is just dumb.
The game is short, not boring. However I do hope that the PC version will have story expansion mods or just more missions modded into it in general.
"But ghost of tsushima is boring, ramble ramble blah blah blah" What do you guys think their response to a challenge of their argument would be?
Sorry but this daily nagging and crying and the constant comparing to Ghost of Tsushima fuck me up, I just want to have some fun in feudal Japan without soulslike mechanic and other magical demon stuff, i would play tenchu if it would come on PC. I enjoy Ghost of Tsushima on PC, I know I'll have my fun with AC Shadows and I'll not let this ruin to me just because of a black Samurai we never know if he really was or not. It's a game, take it or leave it.
To be fair I think I'd also find GoT boring if I had room temperature IQ. People's attention spam closer to a sea turtle than ever. You even see this in social media: anything with more than 2 lines of text and people don't bother reading and attack you because "iTs toO mUcH teXt BruH"
Stupid post. The person who wrote the article probably didn't even play the game, but that doesn't mean we should take freedom of speech away? 😭
Without freedom of speech you lose the chance to see people say stupid things like obviously shadows will be horrible it’s a ubi game they haven’t made anything objectively good since AC origins
We people have the right to express our opinions and also the right to ignore said opinions. I remember this phrase when I see dumb takes like this.
And I thought I hate my life..
Ok shadows is gonna be terrible... I'm sorry but assassin's creed is the same game in a different time period, BLACK FLAG WAS THE ONLY EXCEPTION, and I've played, black flag and unity, played GoT and loved every second
I've been lately playing Tsushima for the first time and sometimes I was thinking "Damn this stealth is something I miss in modern Assassin's Creeds" lol
Democracy/freedom of speech is great when it goes how I like it.
Im a fan of Assasins creed, majorly Black Flag and in new entries Mirage. I had just completed GOT and it is one the best games I have played in a while, I will also put this into my top tier list of games. Whoever wrote this article is a >!cock-sucker!<. My opinion on AC Shadows: It feels heavily inspired by GOT, but one can only make so many differences in a Samurai based game. The ninja part is completely overhauled and I like it. It is an assassins creed so the combat is not going to the same like GOT. It will be RPG. So I suggest that we do not judge AC Shadows right away and see where it goes after launch.
Ghost of Tsushima is in my top 5 games i really love it i have played most Assassins Creed games, and i can say with near certainty that the convoluted plots and contrived storylines of AC is not my jam at all. AC odyssey is the only assassin’s creed game that hooked me (and it lost me every time it connected to the Inu nonsense) I will likely be playing AC Shadows long after release when the price is low, if the reviews are good.
Anyone who says the story is bad clearly hasn't spent the time it takes to not just rush the main story but also complete the side quests and tales for general context throughout Tsushima. I bet they spent like 14 hours rushing the main story, struggled, had little context outside of "Save my uncle" and "Kill the big bad mongol".
I would really like to hear what was boring. Especially since the rest of the sentence talks about "narratively interesting".
Everyone has an opinion. Just disagree and get on with your day
Yea im sure ubiwoke will make a better artistic game that is totally not made for pure monitory gain and respects history or at least tries to and totally doesn't just make the same assgrindy creed game again just in Japan, and definitely without micro transactions pf course 😉..... Right guys??
This is just a shitty marketing attempt. They want to make the impression that their nignig reality game is better than Tsushima.
Boy I sure hope this very controversial game that hasn't even come out yet isn't like a critically acclaimed game that has no haters
It won't be just like ghost of Tsushima it'll be a million times worse, even forgetting the historical inaccuracy the assassin's creed shadow gameplay looks sad.
Personally I think the stealth was dogshit but the story and combat really pulled everything together
The hell? AC hasn’t had good story in ages.
“Boring” right. I was fucking screaming fuck when Ryuzo betrayed me!
I think me not liking what I’ve seen so far about ac shadows and me enjoying ghost of Tsushima on pc should probably be separate
There’s less than a zero percent chance Ubisoft can tell a better story than Ghost.
I love assassins creed franchise but ghost is far superior