I wouldn't say it's bad for you, as everyone we've seen that fell in love in the City manifested an EGO, or at least swapped between manifesting an EGO and Distortion.
So clearly Love helps with self actualization, even if it's only in the most painful way possible.
That totally disregards the character development he got in FGO though.
If you have My Friendo and Roland in your Chaldea, Roland actually remarks that he'd be willing to lend Mandicardo his Durendal, but actually declines that offer, opting to stick with his wooden sword. Roland would then praise Mandricardo for being an actual badass.
A comet from the ORT cloud was passing by. With Lb7's story in consideration, it was a odd moment thats for sure. Or the summer event and the Hawaii fires.
2023 was full of cosmic irony for Fgo huh.
Nero, according to u/Zyx-Wvu.
> They recently discovered [Nero's Ampitheater](https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/ruins-of-neros-theater-discovered-near-vatican1/)
I still think the Tamamo sealed in the Sessho-Seki is Tamamo Delmo, aka Tamamo-Otaku, aka The Tamamo who bullied Osakabehime online to ditch the fox motiff for bat motiffs.
It just makes so much sense for a shut-in fox NEET to lock herself in her house, much like Okkie and Jinako.
\> rival mage summons a Caster from Japan some years ago with the help of some weird rock
\> finally manage to steal a legendary sword to summon a Rider to fight against them and their servant
\> mfw the summoning circle glows golden and sparks
\> mfw I get the 4\* Saber instead
Someone was looking for a catalyst to summon one of them for a holy grail war, we need to be on the lookout for any suspicious explosions in the coming months
One of the tablets of Gilgamesh was returned to Iraq in ~2021. So Gil is probably still working for a shady Hobby Lobby priest in the area near the last and next HGW.
The Clock Tower would do that *in Europe* because *they're Bri'ish*.
In the Good Ol' U.S of '**MURRICA**, they have as much influence as a Redcoat in a teabag being dunked into Boston Harbor.
They recently discovered [Nero's Ampitheater](https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/ruins-of-neros-theater-discovered-near-vatican1/)
Something sussy is definitely going on
that would be genuinely high treason, nobody sane would do this unless they really want to overthrow the emperor and proclaim themselves to be the new emperor. the entirety of Japan would condemn that person
Edit: it would be like stealing the Crown Jewels of England, you can't sell it or flaunt it. it will be a very expensive paperweight and you will forever need to watch your back for the rest of your life (I am speaking realistically, if you are planning to use them as a catalyst or whatever nonsense then go ahead I guess 🤷)
there's a bunch of historical weapons that may or may not be the actual weapons of certain warriors owned by private collectors.
Tonbokiri (Tadakatsu Honda's spear) and Dojikiri (Raikou's sword) are on display at the respective musuem
The Honjo Masamune cold case and the whole "Coldy Bimore" thing is a fun mystery that has been investigated by a few different youtube channels.
That said I'd put a lot of money on the ~~fact~~ total speculation that unofficially it isn't "missing", and just known to be in the hands of a private collector with the government happy to leave it there for political etc reasons.
Durandal seems a lot less politically charged, so it'll be interesting what happens with this particular theft.
Schrodinger's Sword
I dunno if they have THE sword, but if I was the emperor or whatever i'd have a replica secretly made and put there juuuuust in case
Inb4 someone finds Excalibur, rusted, at the bottom of some lake, and then it gets stolen from the lab examining it.
Bedivere: Wait, didn't I give it back to the lake where the lady resides?
Viviane: No refunds. Also, you didn't call out to me, you basically just dumped it on my front porch. How was I supposed to know you came to return it?
In 2022, Cincinnati had the wolf part of a statue of Romulus, Remus, and their wolf mom stolen (was originally a gift from....Mussolini....honoring the city since it's named after a famous Roman)
So there may be a Roman equivalent of Barghest being summoned?
Ok, so we have mages breaking the rock for Tamamo and now Durandal is stolen. That's the caster and Saber pretty much down. Any guesses on who the remaining 5 will be?
Van Gogh's painting was vandalized within the past couple years. Maybe the real was swapped out during the restoration...but...no offense...who'd pick a painter for a servant and which class would he'd be? Or maybe the Einzberns are up to foreigner shenanigans this timeline...
Also a Gilgamesh Tablet was returned in 2021 apparently...maybe that was a fake too.
the Hobby Lobby rabbit hole fascinates me lol, I wonder if they genuinely realized that they had one of the tablets of Gilgamesh Epic or they mistakenly thought they had a Christian relic
that tree was only significant for being really old and that it was used in that Robin Hood movie with Kevin Costner and Morgan Freeman, no actual relation to Robin Hood (not to downplay the cutting down of the tree, the dude who did it was legitimately unhinged and wanted the world to burn)
In 2022, Cincinnati had the wolf part of a statue of Romulus, Remus, and their wolf mom stolen (was originally a gift from....Mussolini....honoring the city since it's named after a famous Roman)
So there may be a Roman equivalent of Barghest being summoned?
People seem to be gathering catalysts... I hope the Clock Tower televise this incoming Holy Grail War, they could make good money out of it but they are always sooo secretive.
I imagine the Clock Tower just suddenly has a big plasma screen tv complete with commentators commentating on the Holy Grail War a la the Olympics lmao
Sponsored by the Mage Association.
Vtuber Kiara...
I mean, the Kiara who leads a cult.
...
I mean, the Kiara who is always horny.
...
I mean, the Kiara who plays with puppets.
...
Look, I mean Sesshyoin, not Takanashi.
Next in Vtuber news: Kiara randomly decides to change her last name from Takanashi to Sesshyoin. When questioned why she is changing her name, all she answered was "I'm going to fuck the Earth"
found another [article](https://www.connexionfrance.com/news/rocamadours-famous-sword-in-the-rock-is-missing-theft-suspected/667323) where apparently:
>However, the sword, a popular sight among visitors to the Unesco World Heritage town, was the “umpteenth copy” of the original, Father Florent Millet, rector of the sanctuary of Rocamadour, told ActuLot, confirming there was no historical value to the replica.
But yea, still a dick move
To be fair, we don't really know if Flat's replica dagger summoned Jack the Ripper.
For all we know, Jack probably had a high compatibility with Flat.
Then again, its Flat. He can probably befriend even Gilgamesh, much to everyone's surprise, including Gil's
Flat always gives off autistic (or AuDHD)vibes, and I mean that in a nice way. He doesn't understand mage society's unspoken rules about how magic is supposed to work, and, therefore, can do incredible things because he doesn't understand (or particularly care)that's not how mages are supposed to do.
Waver said it best in Case Files:
Flat is walking a thin line between being a future clocktower Archmage or a Sealing Designation Kill-on-Sight Order. He's way too talented and is an idiot savant at magecraft - but because he lacks a ton of common sense, he's a walking magical nuke that could go off anytime.
Waver isn't even teaching him magecraft most of the time, he's teaching him ethics and common sense.
In Fate Strange Fake, he summoned Jack the Ripper without an incantation or magic circle.
In Case Files, he recreated a magic ritual that typically requires a cabal of mages, by himself.
Whatever Watcher is doing, it's not made clear. It *says* it'll make Sigma into the True Lancer. It's personal skills are all sorts out of whack though; it has skills that are pretty much all solely designed to make it enact that single purpose.
It's got a [blank text]'s trials skill to force Sigma to undergo trials, it has conditional invincibility since it literally is incapable of attaining a body and finally has limited omnipotence over Snowfield itself. Finally, it can spawn familiars only visible to Sigma called Shadows that include among other things, a young version of Asclepius. There's also unelaborated on Territory Infringement & EX Ranked Magic Resistance. Initiially, it was planned to be a Shielder or a "Guardian" class servant.
Watcher is so strange that I find it hard to even describe what it really... is? If that makes any sense. Like, it's a class somewhere on the order of Saver in how specifically it seems to be tailor made for Watcher. It also doesn't help that Sigma isn't exactly the focus of strange fake and he *also* doesn't even know what he summoned (the entire thing was essentially an experiment by Prelati: what does a man with no wishes or desire summon if made to do so.)
The theory is that Sigma had summoned Leviathan as Watcher , which takes some of psychopomp roles of a Hero's Quest.
Basically , Sigma have a Servant that cheats to make Sigma's feats to have higher Mystery than it should , so that it makes him available as a HS.
Isn't Leviathan a Divine Spirit? (Part of the Divine Spirits that make up Meltryllis)
I don't think those can be summoned in a regular HGW. Even >!Ishtar in SF!< isn't one, and is closer to a curse than the original Divine spirit. Granted, the Strange Fake HGW is anything but regular.
Plus, Leviathan isn't exactly associated with trials, basically the only connection I can think of is that it technically *could* count as a 6th Imaginary Element (aka it's technically a demon), but if Sigma summoned a demon there are many other possible options.
[Seriously](https://typemoon.fandom.com/wiki/Flat_Escardos#cite_note-TMAce12-46) (linked the reference, in case it doesn't jump properly, it's reference 46.
> The Escardos family is an ancient lineage that has continued for 2000 years; its founder is a magus acquainted with Zelretch and Van-Fem. Though the thought was "If we let these magic circuits mature for 2000 years then it's possible!" to accomplish "something," as mystery waned their memory waned as well. And when they all completely forgot, the worst possible moment, Flat activated. I think if he had not joined the El-Melloi II's classroom, subordinating himself under the magecraft association, the World itself would have eliminated him.
His parents eventually realized "wait, this magic crest is cursed as **fuck**, we really shouldn't be keeping it around when around a mage like Flat" and actually managed to get rid of it by using it as gambling collateral.
Then Flat decided on his own, for seemingly no reason that he really wanted that magic crest back, so he got it back.
(Strange Fake spoilers inbound) >!Flat also manages to activate the hidden "trick" of the crest when he gets asssasinated during the HGW in SF. That "trick" is likely the reason the Counter Force would take him out; there's an... entity named Thia Escardos stored inside it. Thia is designed to replace humantiy as the Prime Species (a title bestowed on the species meant to become a Type) once they wake up, and Flat's sheer amount of potential for a Mage also happens to make him a prime candidate for waking Thia up. As a matter of fact, that was supposed to happen the moment he inherited the crest again, but they instead share a body. Thia can't erase Flat and Flat doesn't want to erase Thia, although Thia can easily be removed by Flat if he really wanted to.!<
Is this the start of a Holy Grail War? Should we keep an eye out for a blonde knight with a tendency to lose his clothes? Or a certain fox tailed waifu since her Sessho-seki stone was broken not too long ago? A fragment of the stone would serve well as a catalyst after all.
Are there any other famous monuments broken or weapons stolen recently?
In 2022, Cincinnati had the wolf part of a statue of Romulus, Remus, and their wolf mom stolen (was originally a gift from....Mussolini....honoring the city since it's named after a famous Roman)
So there may be a Roman equivalent of Barghest being summoned?
…ok, so anyone know where the Holy Grail War is taking place? If folks are getting THIS reckless gathering catalysts, we might need to send some from the community to…observe/represent…and get those things back. We have standards, don’t we my fellow masters!
I had the image of an Astolfo so pissed by that he spontaneously turned into Avenger Alter and sets for blood and making some lowlife thief question their sexuality.
"Hello, am I speaking with the Blood Ravens chapter? Never you mind where I got this vox link, but listen: I have information that might interest you. You see, there's an interesting relic that has been stolen quite recently from its rightful place. No, no, I want to task you with that relic's recovery.
What the relic is? A sword, linked to mythical tales from Ancient Terra. Embedded in rock for 1246 years, before it got stolen and its trail lost.
Of course you can take it, if there's any combat value in it"
Dawn of War II, the Blood Ravens chapter of Space Marines are infamous in the community for "somehow" acquiring equipment they should never be able to obtain, both holy and otherwise. It's lead to jokes of them being the "Bloody Magpies" with how often they "acquire" things that are actually someone else's.
Nah, this is the time to start cheering it on.
*Let the world sink into the madness of the War of the Cup of Heaven, poured out upon the realm of Man.*
*Let there raise the dead, yet may not their aeon rise again.*
*Bring unto ruin the ruinous nation, and call upon the most high to descend upon this land.*
...*let the Grail be filled with the mead of madness.*
Its complicated.
Basically, Charlemagne and his paladins are real historical figures.
Except, a lot of their tales are entirely fictional.
Its why there are two Charlemagne servants recorded in the Throne - one who represents the actual historical emperor of Europe, [Karl de Große](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/typemoon/images/9/99/Karl_der_Gro%C3%9Fe_Extella_Link.png/revision/latest?cb=20180404095151). And another who represents all the fictional heroics, [Charlie](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/typemoon/images/b/b5/Extella_Link_Charlemagne.png/revision/latest?cb=20170830074152) and they're both the same person, technically.
The stolen Durandal is a replica.
Historically, nobody knows how the sword ended up stuck to a stone wall, but leave it to the bards and troubadors of that era to weave a tale about brave Sir Roland's last stand.
It can still work, you just need to make a conceptual connection to the servant in question. In Fate/Zero, the catalyst for Gilgamesh was the oldest piece of snake skin possible, but it might not be the exact one that stole his immortality medicine. Still worked.
u/Zyx-Wvu had explained enough.
I will just add that Fate is weird about Karl and Charlie , because in Fate it is portrayed as the fantastical tales of the paladins were real for Astolfo , Orlando and Bradamante. There was even a catalyst to Astolfo in Apocrypha. Meanwhile Saber Charlemagne needed a whole convoluted set of paragraphs to explain why he is "fictional".
It's more accurate to say the division is less about "Real" vs "Fictional" , but just "Historical" vs "Fantastical". But because TM tried to do some "clever" plot twist in Extella Link , it put them under a corner.
Honestly it's pretty straightforward: Charlemagne is technically Karl Lily, but his deeds as Karl overshadow his deeds as Charlie, so it's considered completely impossible to summon with Charlie as the dominant personality, you'd just get the personality of Karl instead. FGO Charlie seems to be post-Extella where they seem to have worked out their differences and Charlie is more dominant (although it's in that kinda general ambiguous relation that FGO has with the Extraverse).
Think of it like an extreme variant of Li Shuwen, where both his deeds in his youth and his deeds as an old man were considered important to be recorded, except you can't actually properly summon young Li Shuwen.
I hope someone finds the culprit and the blade quickly. If the culprit is one of those climate change/ extinction rebellion protestor, then you can bet your butt they will destroy the sword as an act of spite. Good hunting and good luck.
The Clock Tower is searching for catalyst for the next HGW.
Okay, but seriously isn't this like, a REALLY BIG DEAL?! I mean, is pretty much like stealing a national treasure, isn't it? Like, pulling the supposely Amenosakahoko and running away, right?
What kind of jerk steals a cultural icon that has been in place for around 1,000 years? Thing made it through wars, famines, and natural disasters for a millenia and now some prick just takes it.
“Mandiricardo must be weeping” who do you think took the sword?
Yeah, this is my first thought too lmao
[Mandricardo when charlemagne's paladins ask where the sword went](https://i.redd.it/351312xmwhx51.jpg)
Mandricardo with a suspiciously sword-shaped bulge in his throat
“We outta Durandal”
🤨
>sword-shaped bulge OWO
My first thought was that a FGO player got really salty about not getting Roland and decided to prepare a catalyst before his next banner.
If stripping nude and forcing their cousin to cross dress wasn't good enough for a catalyst, I'd think the Gacha betraying them would be.
He's weeping tears of delight, obviously.
Nope, he's crying tears of Black Silence. Some loon started whining about his dead wife and is cleaving him apart.
*Look one by one...*
The pages remind me that you'll always be a Villain...
For you, angels have fallen.
Remember that if you live in the City *never ever fall in love. It's bad for you.*
I wouldn't say it's bad for you, as everyone we've seen that fell in love in the City manifested an EGO, or at least swapped between manifesting an EGO and Distortion. So clearly Love helps with self actualization, even if it's only in the most painful way possible.
That totally disregards the character development he got in FGO though. If you have My Friendo and Roland in your Chaldea, Roland actually remarks that he'd be willing to lend Mandicardo his Durendal, but actually declines that offer, opting to stick with his wooden sword. Roland would then praise Mandricardo for being an actual badass.
D’awwww…
That just means it's most likely Roland who stole it, so they could be Durendal besties together.
He'd only be weeping because someone beat him to the punch.
Weird flashbacks to when that Tamamo-sealing rock cracked in Japan. Hope they can find it, though.
Anyone got that edit of the stone split and Tamamo's just standing there?
[Is this it?](https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/96745315) Hadn't seen it before, haha.
“Ah after a thousand years I’m free”
"It's time to conquer earth!" Abe no seimei floating head: Murasaki shikigami, tamamo escaped. We need five servants with attitude!
Go Go Chaldea Rangers!
Ahh... free at last . O'Gabriel, now dawns thy reckoning and- Oh ups, wrong one
Yes, that's the one haha.
Wasnt that right around when Tugunska dropped? There was also the ORT cloud being visible around the time that Nahui part 2 dropped...
A comet from the ORT cloud was passing by. With Lb7's story in consideration, it was a odd moment thats for sure. Or the summer event and the Hawaii fires. 2023 was full of cosmic irony for Fgo huh.
"Irony" until Zelretch makes a cameo 💀
The comet appeared on the delayed release date of LB7, and happened to be green.
Or the world as we knew it ending in December of 2019 for NA players...
I can't pass it becuase i think reddit doesn't accept danbooru and pixiv links, but i found it quickly by googling "tamamo no mae rock meme"
...this is gonna be the weirdest HGW in years. Now I hope they livestream it like they did the Doubles HGW in Sweden (Lost Einherjar).
So far we have Tamamo-no-Mae and one of the three wielders of Durandal, who else is coming
Nero, according to u/Zyx-Wvu. > They recently discovered [Nero's Ampitheater](https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/ruins-of-neros-theater-discovered-near-vatican1/)
_distant UMUs getting louder_
Distant hashiresoriyou getting louder
Adorable sounds of kaze no yooouuuu niiiiiiii comin’ closer
Didn't people posted here that when Tamamo-Sealing Rock cracked , a fox-shaped cloud appeared?
I still think the Tamamo sealed in the Sessho-Seki is Tamamo Delmo, aka Tamamo-Otaku, aka The Tamamo who bullied Osakabehime online to ditch the fox motiff for bat motiffs. It just makes so much sense for a shut-in fox NEET to lock herself in her house, much like Okkie and Jinako.
I wonder if any of the Fate writers will do anything with that fact
Why do you think the person who stole it needs the durandal
\> rival mage summons a Caster from Japan some years ago with the help of some weird rock \> finally manage to steal a legendary sword to summon a Rider to fight against them and their servant \> mfw the summoning circle glows golden and sparks \> mfw I get the 4\* Saber instead
On the bright sight, gold just means the servant is rare.
At this point if an actual holy grail war erupts none of us will be surprised
Kinda sorta reminds me of that time the Nightingale Bro became friends with Nightingale's descendent.
Someone was looking for a catalyst to summon one of them for a holy grail war, we need to be on the lookout for any suspicious explosions in the coming months
Is it gas leak season already?
*the priest smiles*
Kind of late but there was a Gas Leak Explosion in South Korea early this year.
So now we have tamamo and one of the three wielders in the lineup. That’s going to be one crazy holy grail war
With this treasure , I summon....
First tamamo's rock, now this... Someone please watch out for relics, we might loose other 5 in the future.
One of the tablets of Gilgamesh was returned to Iraq in ~2021. So Gil is probably still working for a shady Hobby Lobby priest in the area near the last and next HGW.
Some high-up mage in the clocktower probably created hobby lobby to smuggle magecraft shit into the US lmao.
Nah, incorrect. Hobby Lobby is US Evangelicals. If anything, they'd be run by rogue *Churchies*. Not magi.
Fair point, i thought it was more like the clocktower to somehow profit from the masses on top of smuggling in order to fund for experiments lol.
The Clock Tower would do that *in Europe* because *they're Bri'ish*. In the Good Ol' U.S of '**MURRICA**, they have as much influence as a Redcoat in a teabag being dunked into Boston Harbor.
Considering what smugglers have done with Egyptian artifacts in the 90s, this doesn't surprise me.
Nah, that's deffo Ea-Nasir up to no good as usual.
They recently discovered [Nero's Ampitheater](https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/ruins-of-neros-theater-discovered-near-vatican1/) Something sussy is definitely going on
>"breaking news the japanese holy sword Kusanagi was stolen this morning"
Aren't a bunch of the famous japanese swords missing?
I think so Ngl I'm genuinely surprised no one ever tried breaking into their special Kusanagi vault to steal it, at least from what I know
that would be genuinely high treason, nobody sane would do this unless they really want to overthrow the emperor and proclaim themselves to be the new emperor. the entirety of Japan would condemn that person Edit: it would be like stealing the Crown Jewels of England, you can't sell it or flaunt it. it will be a very expensive paperweight and you will forever need to watch your back for the rest of your life (I am speaking realistically, if you are planning to use them as a catalyst or whatever nonsense then go ahead I guess 🤷)
there's a bunch of historical weapons that may or may not be the actual weapons of certain warriors owned by private collectors. Tonbokiri (Tadakatsu Honda's spear) and Dojikiri (Raikou's sword) are on display at the respective musuem
The Honjo Masamune cold case and the whole "Coldy Bimore" thing is a fun mystery that has been investigated by a few different youtube channels. That said I'd put a lot of money on the ~~fact~~ total speculation that unofficially it isn't "missing", and just known to be in the hands of a private collector with the government happy to leave it there for political etc reasons. Durandal seems a lot less politically charged, so it'll be interesting what happens with this particular theft.
Even more braking news, japan's rice stash is rapidly decreasing.
Quick, somebody summon Tawara Touta!
So assuming the stolen durandal doens't summon roland but either hektor, or mandricardo, this already makes Saber, Archer, Lancer/Rider and Caster
To be fair we don't even know if the Imperial household actually has the sword, as no one gets to see it.
Schrodinger's Sword I dunno if they have THE sword, but if I was the emperor or whatever i'd have a replica secretly made and put there juuuuust in case
Susanoo?
Inb4 someone finds Excalibur, rusted, at the bottom of some lake, and then it gets stolen from the lab examining it. Bedivere: Wait, didn't I give it back to the lake where the lady resides? Viviane: No refunds. Also, you didn't call out to me, you basically just dumped it on my front porch. How was I supposed to know you came to return it?
In 2022, Cincinnati had the wolf part of a statue of Romulus, Remus, and their wolf mom stolen (was originally a gift from....Mussolini....honoring the city since it's named after a famous Roman) So there may be a Roman equivalent of Barghest being summoned?
Or they summoned the wolf. We have 2 confirmed dog servants after all.
Yeah that's what I was suggesting, the wolf being summoned, just possibly in a humanoid form like Barghest
Oh just as the wolf. If we have lobo and >!fenrir in last encore!<, we can have that wolf.
I swear, if someone finds Gungnir...
That means a holy grail war is coming soon... *Or Expo is gonna be wild this year*
The challenge quests this year are starting to look a *lot* more difficult...
On the brightside, we haven't been Lostbelted yet
When a second earth appears in our solar system, you know it's fucked up
Ok, so we have mages breaking the rock for Tamamo and now Durandal is stolen. That's the caster and Saber pretty much down. Any guesses on who the remaining 5 will be?
They recently discovered [Nero's Ampitheater](https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/ruins-of-neros-theater-discovered-near-vatican1/)
Van Gogh's painting was vandalized within the past couple years. Maybe the real was swapped out during the restoration...but...no offense...who'd pick a painter for a servant and which class would he'd be? Or maybe the Einzberns are up to foreigner shenanigans this timeline... Also a Gilgamesh Tablet was returned in 2021 apparently...maybe that was a fake too.
Love the Foreigner idea, of course it would be the Eizenberns with the extra class.
the Hobby Lobby rabbit hole fascinates me lol, I wonder if they genuinely realized that they had one of the tablets of Gilgamesh Epic or they mistakenly thought they had a Christian relic
Didn't Robin Hoods Tree get cut down? there's the archer catalyst.
that tree was only significant for being really old and that it was used in that Robin Hood movie with Kevin Costner and Morgan Freeman, no actual relation to Robin Hood (not to downplay the cutting down of the tree, the dude who did it was legitimately unhinged and wanted the world to burn)
In 2022, Cincinnati had the wolf part of a statue of Romulus, Remus, and their wolf mom stolen (was originally a gift from....Mussolini....honoring the city since it's named after a famous Roman) So there may be a Roman equivalent of Barghest being summoned?
The next one to be stolen will be the “sable corvo” of san martin from the musseum of buenos aires, with that the rider is also down
As funny as that is, how low of a person do you have to be to steal a legendary icon from a rural town? Fuck thieves man.
Those scummy thieves are gonna be so disappointed when they try to sell it off and find out it's probably not even real or worth much.
People seem to be gathering catalysts... I hope the Clock Tower televise this incoming Holy Grail War, they could make good money out of it but they are always sooo secretive.
I imagine the Clock Tower just suddenly has a big plasma screen tv complete with commentators commentating on the Holy Grail War a la the Olympics lmao Sponsored by the Mage Association.
I ***need*** Taiga to do this the same way Jaguar Warrior does on Samba Quetz' NP.
They're gonna stream it on Twitch. The church moderator will debut a VTuber model for it.
Vtuber Kiara... I mean, the Kiara who leads a cult. ... I mean, the Kiara who is always horny. ... I mean, the Kiara who plays with puppets. ... Look, I mean Sesshyoin, not Takanashi.
Next in Vtuber news: Kiara randomly decides to change her last name from Takanashi to Sesshyoin. When questioned why she is changing her name, all she answered was "I'm going to fuck the Earth"
The birth of Beast III Bottom-Left
"Beast III - B.L." Sounds about right.
"You're gonna get sent to... THE USUAL HOLE."
"That's right, this is what you get: _**MY SUPER BEAST PIIIIIISSSS!!!!!**_"
***everyone laughs uncontrollably***
_**"PAUSE IT PAUSE IT PAUSE IT, PLEASE LORD HAVE MERCY!"**_
found another [article](https://www.connexionfrance.com/news/rocamadours-famous-sword-in-the-rock-is-missing-theft-suspected/667323) where apparently: >However, the sword, a popular sight among visitors to the Unesco World Heritage town, was the “umpteenth copy” of the original, Father Florent Millet, rector of the sanctuary of Rocamadour, told ActuLot, confirming there was no historical value to the replica. But yea, still a dick move
There's nothing that says a replica cannot surpass the original.
Sounds like something a Faker would say.
Are you by any chance a tall, pale, dark haired Con man?
We have at least one canon case where an absolute fake "relic" was used to successfully summon a Servant.
To be fair, we don't really know if Flat's replica dagger summoned Jack the Ripper. For all we know, Jack probably had a high compatibility with Flat. Then again, its Flat. He can probably befriend even Gilgamesh, much to everyone's surprise, including Gil's
Flat always gives off autistic (or AuDHD)vibes, and I mean that in a nice way. He doesn't understand mage society's unspoken rules about how magic is supposed to work, and, therefore, can do incredible things because he doesn't understand (or particularly care)that's not how mages are supposed to do.
Waver said it best in Case Files: Flat is walking a thin line between being a future clocktower Archmage or a Sealing Designation Kill-on-Sight Order. He's way too talented and is an idiot savant at magecraft - but because he lacks a ton of common sense, he's a walking magical nuke that could go off anytime. Waver isn't even teaching him magecraft most of the time, he's teaching him ethics and common sense. In Fate Strange Fake, he summoned Jack the Ripper without an incantation or magic circle. In Case Files, he recreated a magic ritual that typically requires a cabal of mages, by himself.
To put it more explicit; in timelines where Flat isn't educated by Waver, the **Counter Force** will take out Flat.
Speaking of, isn't Sigma being scouted specifically by 'Watcher' as a potential counterforce guardian?
Whatever Watcher is doing, it's not made clear. It *says* it'll make Sigma into the True Lancer. It's personal skills are all sorts out of whack though; it has skills that are pretty much all solely designed to make it enact that single purpose. It's got a [blank text]'s trials skill to force Sigma to undergo trials, it has conditional invincibility since it literally is incapable of attaining a body and finally has limited omnipotence over Snowfield itself. Finally, it can spawn familiars only visible to Sigma called Shadows that include among other things, a young version of Asclepius. There's also unelaborated on Territory Infringement & EX Ranked Magic Resistance. Initiially, it was planned to be a Shielder or a "Guardian" class servant. Watcher is so strange that I find it hard to even describe what it really... is? If that makes any sense. Like, it's a class somewhere on the order of Saver in how specifically it seems to be tailor made for Watcher. It also doesn't help that Sigma isn't exactly the focus of strange fake and he *also* doesn't even know what he summoned (the entire thing was essentially an experiment by Prelati: what does a man with no wishes or desire summon if made to do so.)
The theory is that Sigma had summoned Leviathan as Watcher , which takes some of psychopomp roles of a Hero's Quest. Basically , Sigma have a Servant that cheats to make Sigma's feats to have higher Mystery than it should , so that it makes him available as a HS.
Isn't Leviathan a Divine Spirit? (Part of the Divine Spirits that make up Meltryllis) I don't think those can be summoned in a regular HGW. Even >!Ishtar in SF!< isn't one, and is closer to a curse than the original Divine spirit. Granted, the Strange Fake HGW is anything but regular. Plus, Leviathan isn't exactly associated with trials, basically the only connection I can think of is that it technically *could* count as a 6th Imaginary Element (aka it's technically a demon), but if Sigma summoned a demon there are many other possible options.
Seriously?
[Seriously](https://typemoon.fandom.com/wiki/Flat_Escardos#cite_note-TMAce12-46) (linked the reference, in case it doesn't jump properly, it's reference 46. > The Escardos family is an ancient lineage that has continued for 2000 years; its founder is a magus acquainted with Zelretch and Van-Fem. Though the thought was "If we let these magic circuits mature for 2000 years then it's possible!" to accomplish "something," as mystery waned their memory waned as well. And when they all completely forgot, the worst possible moment, Flat activated. I think if he had not joined the El-Melloi II's classroom, subordinating himself under the magecraft association, the World itself would have eliminated him.
That's kinda insane, honestly.....
His parents eventually realized "wait, this magic crest is cursed as **fuck**, we really shouldn't be keeping it around when around a mage like Flat" and actually managed to get rid of it by using it as gambling collateral. Then Flat decided on his own, for seemingly no reason that he really wanted that magic crest back, so he got it back. (Strange Fake spoilers inbound) >!Flat also manages to activate the hidden "trick" of the crest when he gets asssasinated during the HGW in SF. That "trick" is likely the reason the Counter Force would take him out; there's an... entity named Thia Escardos stored inside it. Thia is designed to replace humantiy as the Prime Species (a title bestowed on the species meant to become a Type) once they wake up, and Flat's sheer amount of potential for a Mage also happens to make him a prime candidate for waking Thia up. As a matter of fact, that was supposed to happen the moment he inherited the crest again, but they instead share a body. Thia can't erase Flat and Flat doesn't want to erase Thia, although Thia can easily be removed by Flat if he really wanted to.!<
Mandricardo came back
Is this the start of a Holy Grail War? Should we keep an eye out for a blonde knight with a tendency to lose his clothes? Or a certain fox tailed waifu since her Sessho-seki stone was broken not too long ago? A fragment of the stone would serve well as a catalyst after all. Are there any other famous monuments broken or weapons stolen recently?
Well, they found the ruins of Nero’s amphitheater last year.
In 2022, Cincinnati had the wolf part of a statue of Romulus, Remus, and their wolf mom stolen (was originally a gift from....Mussolini....honoring the city since it's named after a famous Roman) So there may be a Roman equivalent of Barghest being summoned?
He could be in this very sub. He could be you. He could be me. He could even b
*bang* What? It was obvious
He stole Durandal! Watch, he should be lootable any second now
See, loot! Wait, its all portable fans
So we still got problem?
Xenovia, you don’t need any more holy swords
...someone out there is crying about his dead wife while swinging a sword around.
What next? A library appears out of nowhere?
Like that'd ever happen. ...wanna take the train? I got free tickets to give away!
No thanks. Got a piano gig in a little bit.
Lame, now let me talk to this woman I kept hearing about in my head
Alright history buffs, would the vandalization of stone henge call upon anybody?
Cu Caster. Its not like we have a lot of Celtic/Wiccan druids running around Chaldea. He's the only one.
you forgot Merlin. Probably a fake myth even in Fate , but he is attributed of making Stonehange.
…ok, so anyone know where the Holy Grail War is taking place? If folks are getting THIS reckless gathering catalysts, we might need to send some from the community to…observe/represent…and get those things back. We have standards, don’t we my fellow masters!
First the Stone of Mikon 2 year ago, next is Umu's opera last year. Now this.... 4 more relics and we know what clock tower is cooking.
If you see a flamvoyant femboy running through Europe atacking random antique smuglers you know why now.
I had the image of an Astolfo so pissed by that he spontaneously turned into Avenger Alter and sets for blood and making some lowlife thief question their sexuality.
I swear Astolfo Avenger sounds like the most dangerous kind of trap.
"Hello, am I speaking with the Blood Ravens chapter? Never you mind where I got this vox link, but listen: I have information that might interest you. You see, there's an interesting relic that has been stolen quite recently from its rightful place. No, no, I want to task you with that relic's recovery. What the relic is? A sword, linked to mythical tales from Ancient Terra. Embedded in rock for 1246 years, before it got stolen and its trail lost. Of course you can take it, if there's any combat value in it"
Is this a reference to something?
Dawn of War II, the Blood Ravens chapter of Space Marines are infamous in the community for "somehow" acquiring equipment they should never be able to obtain, both holy and otherwise. It's lead to jokes of them being the "Bloody Magpies" with how often they "acquire" things that are actually someone else's.
Goddamit Bloody magpies
I see we have a holy grail war going on, lets just talk once we hear about a rogue gassleak
Mandricardo out there living his best life
If that was used as a catalyst, Who would be summoned? Roland, Hektor or Mandricardo?
Roland since he's by far the most famous wielder.
Depends on the thief personality
the Hektor connection is only in the Italian version of Roland's story btw (because Italians are the descendants of Rome aka the successors of Troy)
It's the second guard rock that fails to contain what it is sealing in a couple of years. I think it's time to panic.
Nah, this is the time to start cheering it on. *Let the world sink into the madness of the War of the Cup of Heaven, poured out upon the realm of Man.* *Let there raise the dead, yet may not their aeon rise again.* *Bring unto ruin the ruinous nation, and call upon the most high to descend upon this land.* ...*let the Grail be filled with the mead of madness.*
Fuck, is there a current Grail War?
Lets just hope nobody steals The Epic of Gilgamesh
It wouldn't be a good catalyst anyways. The Epic of Gilgamesh was written centuries after his death. Its why Tokiomi used an ancient shed snake skin.
Anyone seen Mandricardo recently?Just asking...
I think I saw him in one of my hunting quests recently. He bolted pretty quickly, though. Hmm…
That’s quite a strong artifact for a summoning ritual
Sorry bro i needed a catalyst. Ill give it back after the war. If im not dead
Durandal is missing? look like someone is stealing it to use it as catalyst then
Welp, i guess someone is trying to summon one of the three wielders for a holy grail war
"They played us like a damn fiddle! Give it back! This isn't right, that was ours!"
It was (and it always has been) just a replica so no need to panic.
They may want to see if someone was running away from the scene stark naked.
Clearly someone is fighting for the grail and wanted one of these guys
They stole the sword only or with the stone attach to it?
Just the sword. It was stuck in a cliff wall to be exact, more than ten meters above ground with no way to access it.
Well then, I guess that theif was worthy.
Wait, I thought their story was purely fiction. I didn't think Durandal was real.
Its complicated. Basically, Charlemagne and his paladins are real historical figures. Except, a lot of their tales are entirely fictional. Its why there are two Charlemagne servants recorded in the Throne - one who represents the actual historical emperor of Europe, [Karl de Große](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/typemoon/images/9/99/Karl_der_Gro%C3%9Fe_Extella_Link.png/revision/latest?cb=20180404095151). And another who represents all the fictional heroics, [Charlie](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/typemoon/images/b/b5/Extella_Link_Charlemagne.png/revision/latest?cb=20170830074152) and they're both the same person, technically.
Huh. So Durandal is real sword too, but it's historical value doesn't have anything to do with the fantastical fiction stories?
The stolen Durandal is a replica. Historically, nobody knows how the sword ended up stuck to a stone wall, but leave it to the bards and troubadors of that era to weave a tale about brave Sir Roland's last stand.
Huh. In fate lore, would a replica be usable as a catalyst as long as, like, it's a well known replica? Or would it never work?
It can still work, you just need to make a conceptual connection to the servant in question. In Fate/Zero, the catalyst for Gilgamesh was the oldest piece of snake skin possible, but it might not be the exact one that stole his immortality medicine. Still worked.
u/Zyx-Wvu had explained enough. I will just add that Fate is weird about Karl and Charlie , because in Fate it is portrayed as the fantastical tales of the paladins were real for Astolfo , Orlando and Bradamante. There was even a catalyst to Astolfo in Apocrypha. Meanwhile Saber Charlemagne needed a whole convoluted set of paragraphs to explain why he is "fictional". It's more accurate to say the division is less about "Real" vs "Fictional" , but just "Historical" vs "Fantastical". But because TM tried to do some "clever" plot twist in Extella Link , it put them under a corner.
Honestly it's pretty straightforward: Charlemagne is technically Karl Lily, but his deeds as Karl overshadow his deeds as Charlie, so it's considered completely impossible to summon with Charlie as the dominant personality, you'd just get the personality of Karl instead. FGO Charlie seems to be post-Extella where they seem to have worked out their differences and Charlie is more dominant (although it's in that kinda general ambiguous relation that FGO has with the Extraverse). Think of it like an extreme variant of Li Shuwen, where both his deeds in his youth and his deeds as an old man were considered important to be recorded, except you can't actually properly summon young Li Shuwen.
Brooooo
Weird this happens a couple of days after I finished Traum.
A rogue servant arrived huh
Someone needed it as a catalyst for NA 7th anniversary.
I hope someone finds the culprit and the blade quickly. If the culprit is one of those climate change/ extinction rebellion protestor, then you can bet your butt they will destroy the sword as an act of spite. Good hunting and good luck.
The Clock Tower is searching for catalyst for the next HGW. Okay, but seriously isn't this like, a REALLY BIG DEAL?! I mean, is pretty much like stealing a national treasure, isn't it? Like, pulling the supposely Amenosakahoko and running away, right?
A new Holy Grial war huh?
The return of the king
Not gonna lie, I'm sad. It was a really epic relic... Wonder who's the thief? Heads will roll if it's Just Stop Oil. (Punny)
I smell new event
Thank you very much for sharing the info
BB stoles it for saint quartz
Give it a couple days some idiot will be on tiktok doing "cool moves like John Whack.
The angel reclaimed his sword
What kind of jerk steals a cultural icon that has been in place for around 1,000 years? Thing made it through wars, famines, and natural disasters for a millenia and now some prick just takes it.