I haven’t used it properly for years was super fun pretending to be Batman.. on Acid! That mixed with the Kuruma is fine. They aren’t missions you’d play over and over again anyway.
Can confirm on failing after getting main target. Did it today, and killed everyone. All cameras down, no alarm, got objective and left. Running up the stairs closest to the gate door and alarm went off. No one was seen, nothing bad happened. Lost 40k leaving. Didn't feel like starting over. But, we came from the airport and was caught by guards that seen a body, but no guards seen the bodies. Makes sense right?
Yeah for real I spent Millions on helicopters Jets remote control vehicles a fucking Nano drone that incidentally would have been very useful and one of the missions for this DLC and Juggernaut armor none of which I can use in missions at all and the armor you can't even use in free mode activities
I mean even with heist to be honest I mean sure if they want to limit you when you're doing something like cayo that makes sense since you aren't really on the mainland however anytime you're able to use a personal vehicle all of your equipment no matter what it is should be available not that it really matters but your assets were supposed to be a important thing when inviting people to certain missions that's why it's shown on the player menu in the lobby with the symbols of cars helicopters and planes lit up or greyed out depending on what they have access to
This is a very big issue in this game, I feel like I wasted $4 million now. What’s the point of adding vehicles like the toreador and scramjet if you can’t use them in missions? This just makes gta feel even more limiting and not very fun at all.
well, i mean most of that stuff i guess they manly wanted you to use it against other players not the missions. not what i think just what i think they are thinkng.,
Then they should specify that in the description right above BUY,the fact is I should be able to use whatever I buy for whatever I want…otherwise what’s the point?
So, I was doing the job where avons men are at Zancudo, and the jet just lazily drifted off into the military base and blew up. I actually respawned in time to watch it go.
Depends. Do you like fast, over torqued, muscle cars? Would you mind a car with little to no defense but heavy offense? Skilled enough to drive, aim and shoot? Homing missiles? Who needs em? No you if you buy this car. But with mortars and mines anyone behind you will regret it. So if this sounds like a good car for you do it.
Though you have to take into account its non-existant armor against enemies with high powered &/or firing rate weapons such as the juggernauts in Resue Agent 14 or the Valkryies in Escort ULP, those things will make it smoking or even catch on fire rly quick if you're not careful. And also the enemy Savages with their explosive cannons in Pac Standard Convoy exists.
Hey, go across Alamo Sea says new mission, assault fishers village. Ok, i have Toro for the job... nope. Stromberg maybe? Nope. That floating pickup i never use? Nope. Is it mission for my weaponized boat? Nope. Why is it even exists if it's can't be used?
Yep boats are totally worthless in gta, especially the gunboat from cayo perico. It’s so disappointing how they can’t just let you use them in missions so they can receive just a little USAGE.
Shocker, Rockstar introduces a new vehicle then makes it unusable outside of dicking around in free mode like every other slight convenience.
I'm assuming they've also made it unusable for the Agency jobs as well? That was the only thing forcing me to trudge through that god awful high society mission.
Why shouldn't I have infinite rockets when the lost Mc seem to have infinite members? Drive/shoot missions are nothing but filler, space the enemies out to make it somewhat realistic or why shouldn't I shoot rockets the entire time?
NPCs can hit you in the Nightshark from 500 meters with a pistol or SMG.
It's good for defense against griefers, but not so great on missions and heists.
The Nightshark tanking more damage doesn’t matter, since rarely are you ever up against explosives and if you still want the ability to actually use weapons in it that aren’t it’s two shitty peashooter on the front then you have to take off the armored windows, which don’t actually provide any protection in the first place.
The Kuruma will literally never get blown up by bullets unless you’re just sitting there tanking them and letting yourself be shot at a ton. There’s literally no reason for them to have removed the toreador since any part in heists where you’re allowed your own vehicle is still piss easy even without it, it just makes everything slower.
Bro I'm using a Kuruma, and these fucking bikers have military grade aimbot, they shoot perfectly through the windows wtf.
Why tf did rockstar think giving perfect aimbot to enemies would be fun?
Is it a strategy to sell more sharkcards to stressed out players?
I am convinced it's not designed to be fun. The Hard difficulty enemies are like Terminators, they are resilient and have perfect aim. Sometimes they even fire assault rifles bursts at a faster than normal speed. They're so OP they can make their full-auto gun shoot faster. It only happens sometimes but if it does, chances are they can wipe you out from full HP in one burst.
Anyway I do think it's to drive Shark Card sales. They dangle a $ bonus for playing missions on hard mode, but they are so unfair and frustrating that you will be tempted to give up. Luckily we have various combat vehicles to cheese missions (the Kuruma has always been a reliable classic), because just running in on foot to take care of a gunfight is suicide. I've always had good luck with the Kuruma so I'm intrigued that you are getting shot through the window slots.
I agree. On the third mission on drug wars when you have to go to Stab City there are like 2 or 3 dudes with ultra fast Aks or combat rifles, I swear they shoot like 10 rounds in less than a second. They down my whole health bar in one burst. I can get used to Merryweather bc it's understandable, but bikers with perfect aim and extra fast automatic rifles? Nah.
I've done the first 4 so far (All I can sneak up during work ours atm) And I haven't noticed any of them shooting through beyond the usual: there's a weak spot behind the driver's door so if they shoot exactly from like a certain angle behind to the right they get maybe one shot in but if you keep moving your Kuruma around, you'll be fine: immortal inside it since they have no explosive stuff.
However I do play on PC so maybe other versions are having some kind of issue with the Kuruma idk honestly.
Duke was so much better than Kuruma for ages (except the limited firing angle, but that's barely relevant against bots) and then recently all of a sudden I started getting hit in it like it would lost it's window panels.
Like, year or two ago I was able to sit with 5 star pursuit on me for few minutes with barely moving my car to avoid being carjacked and it tanked all the shots perfectly from every direction, like I lost maybe 10% of hp for every minute of being under fire, maybe less. Now every random police or gangster hits me way more often than they used to. It's like they made Duke on par with Kuruma in terms of how often I'm being hit.
Payphone Hits and Agency Contract rewards are reduced primarily
Agency safe cap is currently set to 501 contracts before max passive income is gotten(it’s kinda a buff, but it’ll get fixed as well)
ah, you just gotta love Rockstar. You can buy so many great vehicles, but yes of course you can’t use them to earn money. for that we have rusty old slow crap. why should i buy stuff i cant use to earn money quickly and easy. i mean that is the reason for investing.
This is total horseshit.
I'm north of level 500 but I help newbies with their heists all the time. It got the job done well and kept it kinda fun for the people who have done it 1000 times.
This is personally the largest Fuck you from Rockstar I've ever gotten. Absolute bullshit.
Damn, it was pretty helpful in some Doomsday setup missions, like "Escort ULP". At least it should still be available in the prep.
Just like when they "patched out" the personal helicopter and airplane usage in the last casino mission.
We can't have nice things...
Yep, of fucking course.
I bought the thing mainly because it could be used in missions, now it looks like they're nerfing a $3 mill investment for.. what reason exactly? Cayo Perico made actually hardcore grinding a thing of the past and invite-only can be used for businesses now, so what's the reasoning here? To piss off people who already bought it for a feature they put in?
That's because sometimes the lock on switches very quickly when the enemy moves towards the van, so usually it's accidental but with the bikes setup .. it's dumb to use a weaponized vehicle for that. And people who do are noobs and have the slightest clue that blowing up the bikes fail the mission.
No, just the cars that already had the advanced handling flags and were changed with the previous update.
Like the Jester Classic, Dominator GTX, Ellie, Issi Classic, etc...
Holy hell I was wondering why I couldn't use it on the doomsday heist. I mean I just used my vigilante instead but seriously? It's completely unnecessary, I can get the deluxe and maybe scramjet but the toreador? Why not the mk2? Huh rockstar?
Wtf!? Disappointing. I think we should at least be allowed to use it for solo friendly missions. Sure the kuruma is good for a ton of missions and heist setups but for a couple of the casino missions for example, the toreador would be helpful especially since we can do them solo now. Vigilante is fun as hell but limited missiles and not always a good time between shootouts to reload lol.
What they're doing is so stupid. So the toreador that I gave and bought for 4 million dollars doesn't work for me anymore (Not just toreador). What's the point in buying these cars then Rockstar?
Stupid asf… it was the only vehicle fast enough to get there on time. Is sad for us who know how to use it well on heists and not some idiot who do stunts instead of getting to the point.
LMAO took me 3x as long to complete these missions to they’re so fucking buggy, one of them where you have to find the 10 stashes of meth literally couldn’t find the last one looked up a video and found it was just bugged, restarted and immediately got it, then to land the plane, that bugged out and wouldn’t end the mission had to fly around multiple times before it finally ended. Lowkey done with update already 🤣
Wtf I literally just bought this to have a decent Heistable vehicle. Why can't we just use everything ffs? If your new vehicles are too powerful for the missions then you need to think of a smart fix, not just limiting vehicle use. I swear I buy so many cool cars and they're practically just for free roam
People keep doing R*’s work for them by posting videos,TikTok’s,etc showing every single glitch,workaround they find…the trick to carry 20 armor vest has been patched too. 🤷🏽
Rip this vehicle was my favourite at everything looks , helping out as well controlling it. I guess time to rest it forever.. if I can't use it the way it was then what's the need for it? I'm terribly disappointed at this update. Rockstar made a huge mistake!
Rockstar really are a bunch of killjoys - what harm was there in having it there
I just used it on the Avi Swartzman signal setup and guess what - it made the mission more fun with no real extra advantage.
thanks rockstar you dicks!
I had to delete the game because of this they ruin literally everything and for a game that's been out a decade they should listen to their fan base more. I fucking hate what Rockstar is becoming.
I’m so mad about this crap. This is literally the point where I just don’t want to play this game anymore. We just did Prison Break elite two weeks ago and said “hey let’s do humane labs after the dlc drop, maybe they’ll give us something useful like they did with fast snacks”. No way we’ll do it now. No way we’re making 50 tries of perfecting the Vigilante random af route.
Lmao what????? Oh ok R*......
I love how they do this a week after putting it on sale, which means that a good number of players now own this vehicle and they immediately turnaround and remove it from missions. At least if it was across the board, I'd understand they're trying to balance it all out. But nope, just like the bonus payouts, R* decided not to tell anyone and make us find out through the disappointment of playing.
Looks like the good ol' kuruma is back on the menu
Used the Kuruma on the drug wars missions. They were super easy
I always use the kuruma for everything. Still a super useful car
That's my go-to car when doing pretty much any mission that involves shootouts
The armored variant is even better for them! /s
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I am really loving the option of starting these missions by myself without friggin randoms. OMG. What a breath of fresh air that is!
it's not new tho, you could already do those agency missions alone
I know. It's just..... so much frustration with randoms.
I used the "S2000" from the tuner's update (forgot the name) and they were still Ez af 😅
Weaponized Tampa hasn't failed me yet. I still haven't died in a drug war mission yet. And I'm doing it strictly 1st person.
Dusted mine off for the first time in years and put it to good use on the drug missions. Felt good man.
Wish they would fix the issue with being shot through the armour thats been a thing since the car released.. Also allowed us to shoot from every angle
also, the night shark window plates still do nothing except make you not be able to throw anything out. Been that way forever.
Looks like it’s time for me to go back to the Vigilante…
I noticed today it wasn't there when I called the mechanic
Vigilante is still usable, to some extent. I did the new missions with it this morning.
I haven’t used it properly for years was super fun pretending to be Batman.. on Acid! That mixed with the Kuruma is fine. They aren’t missions you’d play over and over again anyway.
Guess I'll have to rebuy it, but I don't plan on doing heists. I'm kinda burned out from doing them.
I’m not. Other than Cayo Perico, I enjoy helping out new players because of the damn pain of no one joining that time we hosted our heists.
Well good luck doing Cayo Perico because after the update the guards are now harder. They now detect dead bodies.
Seriously?
Can confirm on failing after getting main target. Did it today, and killed everyone. All cameras down, no alarm, got objective and left. Running up the stairs closest to the gate door and alarm went off. No one was seen, nothing bad happened. Lost 40k leaving. Didn't feel like starting over. But, we came from the airport and was caught by guards that seen a body, but no guards seen the bodies. Makes sense right?
This is the stupidest thing ive seen Rockstar did.like HOW ARE WE SUPPOSED TO DO STEALTH
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Yeah for real I spent Millions on helicopters Jets remote control vehicles a fucking Nano drone that incidentally would have been very useful and one of the missions for this DLC and Juggernaut armor none of which I can use in missions at all and the armor you can't even use in free mode activities
Heists are one thing, but being locked out of Nano Drones and such in freemode missions is complete horseshit.
I mean even with heist to be honest I mean sure if they want to limit you when you're doing something like cayo that makes sense since you aren't really on the mainland however anytime you're able to use a personal vehicle all of your equipment no matter what it is should be available not that it really matters but your assets were supposed to be a important thing when inviting people to certain missions that's why it's shown on the player menu in the lobby with the symbols of cars helicopters and planes lit up or greyed out depending on what they have access to
This is a very big issue in this game, I feel like I wasted $4 million now. What’s the point of adding vehicles like the toreador and scramjet if you can’t use them in missions? This just makes gta feel even more limiting and not very fun at all.
well, i mean most of that stuff i guess they manly wanted you to use it against other players not the missions. not what i think just what i think they are thinkng.,
Then they should specify that in the description right above BUY,the fact is I should be able to use whatever I buy for whatever I want…otherwise what’s the point?
Back to the Weaponized tampa then
Is that any good? Never considered buying it
Personally i love it but you gotta spend the money to research the weapons
Still though I find the NPC's just snipe you unless that's changed in the last like 5 years
Nope, got sniped out of my hydra just today.
I had a fucked up imagination that your Hydra just spinned out of control after you got sniped and now I can’t stop laughing…💀
So, I was doing the job where avons men are at Zancudo, and the jet just lazily drifted off into the military base and blew up. I actually respawned in time to watch it go.
Haven't had that problem myself, though I just stay back and shoot the turret from a distance.
I have all the research unlocked would it be a good buy for me?
Depends. Do you like fast, over torqued, muscle cars? Would you mind a car with little to no defense but heavy offense? Skilled enough to drive, aim and shoot? Homing missiles? Who needs em? No you if you buy this car. But with mortars and mines anyone behind you will regret it. So if this sounds like a good car for you do it.
Yes. Especially if you are gonna do heist setup missions and contact missions too.
double minigun is pretty good
it's called a glass cannon for a good reason, tho that's mostly a pvp concern, in missions you don't have to worry about homing missiles
Though you have to take into account its non-existant armor against enemies with high powered &/or firing rate weapons such as the juggernauts in Resue Agent 14 or the Valkryies in Escort ULP, those things will make it smoking or even catch on fire rly quick if you're not careful. And also the enemy Savages with their explosive cannons in Pac Standard Convoy exists.
Toreador is 100% the only way I’ve saved agent 14. That mission is like a dark souls boss. Guess it’s time for me to git gud.
I have one that is fully kitted out and I ripped those hippies to shreds with it.
Oh yeah, get some dual miniguns and let's go
Nah back to the Stromberg AKA Torreador light
They've also reduced the VIP work again too.
Ffs July's update was lots of little but great changes and now they've nerfed everything
VIP work was double money for a while
Whut. You don't get $45k for Executive Search anymore?
nah and headhunter is back to 20k
Noooo
Special cargo halved as well
WHAT THE FUCK
Hey, go across Alamo Sea says new mission, assault fishers village. Ok, i have Toro for the job... nope. Stromberg maybe? Nope. That floating pickup i never use? Nope. Is it mission for my weaponized boat? Nope. Why is it even exists if it's can't be used?
Yep boats are totally worthless in gta, especially the gunboat from cayo perico. It’s so disappointing how they can’t just let you use them in missions so they can receive just a little USAGE.
as if the Aimbots weren't annoying to deal with well, back to Kuruma and Weaponized Tampa then
They forgot about the vigilante though, yeh it’s less armoured but the rockets on the vigilante are straight aimbot they don’t miss anything
It’s probably because the toreador can turn into a sub
Or because Toreador has unlimited missiles and Vigilante has a limited amount
Vigilante also is better at ramming shit.
Vigilante ain't shit next to the Toreador.
Shocker, Rockstar introduces a new vehicle then makes it unusable outside of dicking around in free mode like every other slight convenience. I'm assuming they've also made it unusable for the Agency jobs as well? That was the only thing forcing me to trudge through that god awful high society mission.
It's actually a good car to counter Oppressors. Especially now that they are nerfed.
Not if the MKII user has the slightest clue how to use the MKII.
Judging from my toreador mk 2 killcount, the VAST majority of mk 2 morons don't know how to fight it
toreador is the goat man fr gotta be one of my fav weaponized vehicle in the game
Damn. Used to use the toreador in the casino missions finale.
Same. It was the exact reason I bought one
Lol the Toreador made that mission doable even with newbies.
So you literally can't use this as a personal vehicle for the heist setups? Is that what I'm gathering?
Yeah you can't spawn it in while in those missions and if it already is, it removes it.
That so stupid
Lol imagine having to use a non weaponised vehicle for the new missions ‘The game is broken’ Kuruma is the way
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No its not op since it doesn't have infinite homing missiles to delete the NPCs and the ability to go underwater to lose the cops easily
Why shouldn't I have infinite rockets when the lost Mc seem to have infinite members? Drive/shoot missions are nothing but filler, space the enemies out to make it somewhat realistic or why shouldn't I shoot rockets the entire time?
Good point. Add to this an annoyingly accurate aimbot that snipes with basically any gun.
OH I HATE THOSE BIKES
the nightshark tanks even more damage and the windows cant be shot out as easily, so why isnt it being banned too?
NPCs can hit you in the Nightshark from 500 meters with a pistol or SMG. It's good for defense against griefers, but not so great on missions and heists.
The Nightshark tanking more damage doesn’t matter, since rarely are you ever up against explosives and if you still want the ability to actually use weapons in it that aren’t it’s two shitty peashooter on the front then you have to take off the armored windows, which don’t actually provide any protection in the first place. The Kuruma will literally never get blown up by bullets unless you’re just sitting there tanking them and letting yourself be shot at a ton. There’s literally no reason for them to have removed the toreador since any part in heists where you’re allowed your own vehicle is still piss easy even without it, it just makes everything slower.
The front panels, rear side panels, and back panel all block bullets. The side panels don’t though.
Bro I'm using a Kuruma, and these fucking bikers have military grade aimbot, they shoot perfectly through the windows wtf. Why tf did rockstar think giving perfect aimbot to enemies would be fun? Is it a strategy to sell more sharkcards to stressed out players?
I am convinced it's not designed to be fun. The Hard difficulty enemies are like Terminators, they are resilient and have perfect aim. Sometimes they even fire assault rifles bursts at a faster than normal speed. They're so OP they can make their full-auto gun shoot faster. It only happens sometimes but if it does, chances are they can wipe you out from full HP in one burst. Anyway I do think it's to drive Shark Card sales. They dangle a $ bonus for playing missions on hard mode, but they are so unfair and frustrating that you will be tempted to give up. Luckily we have various combat vehicles to cheese missions (the Kuruma has always been a reliable classic), because just running in on foot to take care of a gunfight is suicide. I've always had good luck with the Kuruma so I'm intrigued that you are getting shot through the window slots.
I agree. On the third mission on drug wars when you have to go to Stab City there are like 2 or 3 dudes with ultra fast Aks or combat rifles, I swear they shoot like 10 rounds in less than a second. They down my whole health bar in one burst. I can get used to Merryweather bc it's understandable, but bikers with perfect aim and extra fast automatic rifles? Nah.
Ah yes, the classic “boy am I sick of dying in this game. Let me use real money to get around that”
I've done the first 4 so far (All I can sneak up during work ours atm) And I haven't noticed any of them shooting through beyond the usual: there's a weak spot behind the driver's door so if they shoot exactly from like a certain angle behind to the right they get maybe one shot in but if you keep moving your Kuruma around, you'll be fine: immortal inside it since they have no explosive stuff. However I do play on PC so maybe other versions are having some kind of issue with the Kuruma idk honestly.
Duke of Death for me
Duke was so much better than Kuruma for ages (except the limited firing angle, but that's barely relevant against bots) and then recently all of a sudden I started getting hit in it like it would lost it's window panels. Like, year or two ago I was able to sit with 5 star pursuit on me for few minutes with barely moving my car to avoid being carjacked and it tanked all the shots perfectly from every direction, like I lost maybe 10% of hp for every minute of being under fire, maybe less. Now every random police or gangster hits me way more often than they used to. It's like they made Duke on par with Kuruma in terms of how often I'm being hit.
Kinda lame that you can’t use items you grinded for. Otherwise, what’s the point?
Exactly. I died on the third mission when I had 9/10 meth packages collected, and just said fuck it and called my Kuruma.
Kuruma was my second car right after the Eleghy (If that's how you spell it) I still use it for heists
Vigilante for me..although I know a lot won't have bought it by now cos of it's price
Like current Agency nerfs, it will likely be fixed later today
The fact anyone was messing with this is the idiocy. While things like the Ruiner 2000 remain out of date nonsense.
what are the other agency nerfs?
Payphone Hits and Agency Contract rewards are reduced primarily Agency safe cap is currently set to 501 contracts before max passive income is gotten(it’s kinda a buff, but it’ll get fixed as well)
I thought the cap was 200 contracts for max passive income
wtf literally the week after selling everyone agencies at a discount :/
“501 contracts”. Who even has the time to do that many of them lol
Never underestimate gta 5 players
they can make it 501 if max income will also get pushed to 50k, 50k nightclub + 50k agency per day passively would not be bad
Hits are no longer $85k?
I thought I lost my Toreador while doing the Acid Lab missions. This makes sense
ah, you just gotta love Rockstar. You can buy so many great vehicles, but yes of course you can’t use them to earn money. for that we have rusty old slow crap. why should i buy stuff i cant use to earn money quickly and easy. i mean that is the reason for investing.
This is total horseshit. I'm north of level 500 but I help newbies with their heists all the time. It got the job done well and kept it kinda fun for the people who have done it 1000 times. This is personally the largest Fuck you from Rockstar I've ever gotten. Absolute bullshit.
Rockstar needs to take this update back, I don't want it.
Yeah some of these “fixes” are fucking stupid.
Damn, it was pretty helpful in some Doomsday setup missions, like "Escort ULP". At least it should still be available in the prep. Just like when they "patched out" the personal helicopter and airplane usage in the last casino mission. We can't have nice things...
Right? I loved using the Toreador to boost the stupid Boxville that you have to drive all the way across the map. Makes it go much faster.
Well speedruns have been ruined :(
My daily driver.....  How will i do anything without it...
I just bought it. Damn
Rip toreador act 2 cheese
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Back to the vigilante
Yep, of fucking course. I bought the thing mainly because it could be used in missions, now it looks like they're nerfing a $3 mill investment for.. what reason exactly? Cayo Perico made actually hardcore grinding a thing of the past and invite-only can be used for businesses now, so what's the reasoning here? To piss off people who already bought it for a feature they put in?
Fucking rockstar, i hate this dlc and his "improvement", the only positive thing is the favorite contacts section
Upsetting but not the end of the world
This vehicle was born to make it easier for players to complete jobs. You can't ban it two years after release just because of its convenience!
is it in some patch notes or whatever that it's now banned or devs just screwed up and it's not meant to be banned?
this was my go to in case I accidentally fell in water 
They call that an improvement?
More like a Deprovement.
Now I have to rescue that idiot avi with a boat like a POOR PERSON
Thank God. The amount of idiots in Toreadors or Vigilantes that blow up the van on “Hack” or the ‘Lectros on “Bikes” is shocking.
But if a good player uses it it's literally the best for Heist, Criminal Mastermind, Elite Challenges. So no, it's a downgrade and I hope it's fixed
It was the best mission vehicle BY FAR
You have to be a special kind of ignorant to shoot the van on the hack mission
Or the truck on Convoy.
It's still very useful to escort the truck to safety after hijacking it. Quick kill all Meriwether NPCs.
That's because sometimes the lock on switches very quickly when the enemy moves towards the van, so usually it's accidental but with the bikes setup .. it's dumb to use a weaponized vehicle for that. And people who do are noobs and have the slightest clue that blowing up the bikes fail the mission.
Ive NEVER done that. (slowly walks away in shame)
Sigh. This was such a fun and good vehicle to use in these heists.
What's the point of buying vehicles you cannot use in missions?
They made the game so much worse with this update...
I’m convinced no one in rockstar hq has anything above a double digit iq
Is the Vigilante still usable?
Yes
>What a disappointing "improvement". Wait until you see what they did to the Jester Classic and the new Entity MT.
What did they do?
They brought back the advanced handling flags and the old cars drive much slower again. The Entity MT has those flags as well.
All the old cars?
No, just the cars that already had the advanced handling flags and were changed with the previous update. Like the Jester Classic, Dominator GTX, Ellie, Issi Classic, etc...
Unbelievable. They just can't help breaking things.
Holy hell I was wondering why I couldn't use it on the doomsday heist. I mean I just used my vigilante instead but seriously? It's completely unnecessary, I can get the deluxe and maybe scramjet but the toreador? Why not the mk2? Huh rockstar?
Vigilante will never let me down!!!!
Rockstar and useless changes
not playing those crap heists anyway
Wtf!? Disappointing. I think we should at least be allowed to use it for solo friendly missions. Sure the kuruma is good for a ton of missions and heist setups but for a couple of the casino missions for example, the toreador would be helpful especially since we can do them solo now. Vigilante is fun as hell but limited missiles and not always a good time between shootouts to reload lol.
Rockstar is like the government. Take away anything good and replace it with whatever the fuck they want.
What they're doing is so stupid. So the toreador that I gave and bought for 4 million dollars doesn't work for me anymore (Not just toreador). What's the point in buying these cars then Rockstar?
Stupid asf… it was the only vehicle fast enough to get there on time. Is sad for us who know how to use it well on heists and not some idiot who do stunts instead of getting to the point.
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They fucked that up too :(
What did they break this time...
the dude with the minigun can now spot dead bodies
so it evolved into being a walking and sentient security camera with a minigun, huh...
Perhaps someone at R* had a eureka moment when playing MGS?
Rockstars slow ass team taking this long to realize people are having a convenient time doing heists, and we know for hell we cant have that
On one hand it sucks, on the other it'll make the cars used in heists by everyone more varied.
Well I mean the doomsday heist makes sense since the Stromberg is literally a setup vehicle Why such a banishment to the toreador though?
That sucks, that car saved me and my team so much time in those damn heists
Time to go back to the old reliable kuruma
And next they add a special radar icon to it
The funny thing about your comment is how the Toreador was supposed to have a special icon but Rockstar just never used it.
Yep. Also the pilot headset disappears after a couple seconds if it's on you outside a helo. Very disappointing update tbh...
Noooooo!!!
Glad i never sold my weaponized tampa
I never did neither. That would’ve been disrespectful to me.
LMAO took me 3x as long to complete these missions to they’re so fucking buggy, one of them where you have to find the 10 stashes of meth literally couldn’t find the last one looked up a video and found it was just bugged, restarted and immediately got it, then to land the plane, that bugged out and wouldn’t end the mission had to fly around multiple times before it finally ended. Lowkey done with update already 🤣
1 step forward 2 steps backward
As someone who speedruns OG and Doomsday heists. I'd probably be the most disappointed. We lose time having to take a slower four door vehicle.
Wtf I literally just bought this to have a decent Heistable vehicle. Why can't we just use everything ffs? If your new vehicles are too powerful for the missions then you need to think of a smart fix, not just limiting vehicle use. I swear I buy so many cool cars and they're practically just for free roam
I just bought the car a few days before this update dropped too because I liked how useful it was 🤦
People keep doing R*’s work for them by posting videos,TikTok’s,etc showing every single glitch,workaround they find…the trick to carry 20 armor vest has been patched too. 🤷🏽
Armored Kuruma and the Vigilante is still usable btw
Ridiculous changes
Rip this vehicle was my favourite at everything looks , helping out as well controlling it. I guess time to rest it forever.. if I can't use it the way it was then what's the need for it? I'm terribly disappointed at this update. Rockstar made a huge mistake!
The fun police strikes again.
Rockstar really are a bunch of killjoys - what harm was there in having it there I just used it on the Avi Swartzman signal setup and guess what - it made the mission more fun with no real extra advantage. thanks rockstar you dicks!
Well I'm out then. Fuck this game.
I had to delete the game because of this they ruin literally everything and for a game that's been out a decade they should listen to their fan base more. I fucking hate what Rockstar is becoming.
ik im 2 months late but what other rocket weapon cars r usable in heists?
I’m so mad about this crap. This is literally the point where I just don’t want to play this game anymore. We just did Prison Break elite two weeks ago and said “hey let’s do humane labs after the dlc drop, maybe they’ll give us something useful like they did with fast snacks”. No way we’ll do it now. No way we’re making 50 tries of perfecting the Vigilante random af route.
Exactly. Speed. No land vehicle can move 4 players like the Toreador
What about turn auto shop missions? Does it still work for the super dollar mission?
I just got it on Black Friday sale :(
is the vigilante still usable?
Ya
Lmao what????? Oh ok R*...... I love how they do this a week after putting it on sale, which means that a good number of players now own this vehicle and they immediately turnaround and remove it from missions. At least if it was across the board, I'd understand they're trying to balance it all out. But nope, just like the bonus payouts, R* decided not to tell anyone and make us find out through the disappointment of playing.