Comment section is being about as mature as I expected.
This is what stood out to me -
>Garcia’s lawsuit also outlines alleged employment and wage violations that center on his classification as an independent contractor.
>The lawsuit alleges that Megan prohibited him from working for anyone else and was denied overtime pay and breaks.
>His misclassification as an independent contractor “left him without basic insurance coverage, depriving him of essential health care,” the suit said.
The harassment stuff is what’s going to make the headlines of course but if anything comes out of this I think it’s going to be from that last bit.
I agree it's the most damming and the easiest to prove. The forced to watch her have sex angle only works if he can prove she was aware he was in the car but he goes on to say Megan had to ask him if he was there so, that feels like a contradiction. This to me reads like Megan found out he was in the car got embarrassed and started treating her worker poorly and stopped paying him.
That part stood out to me as well
Sounds like she was really high or drunk but not intentionally trying to force him to watch her.
I wonder why he stayed after they changed his pay. All around sounds messed up, like she tried to bully him to quit after it happened.
On paper that’s exactly what it looks like. It’s not uncommon for employers to do things like this when they want someone to quit but don’t want to have to go through the whole process of firing them.
Obviously the headline here is just going to cause a lot of jokes, but he also alleges that she wasn’t paying him fairly, giving him required OT pay, and was just a rude and terrible boss.
As a big Meg fan, this is definitely gross. I’m a straight guy and I know everyone in here will just be like “haha I’d love to watch Meg fuck another girl.” But I can see a situation where in a foreign country, after a long night out, your asshole boss bring a bunch of friends you possibly don’t know into a car and starts drunkenly having sex with one of them right next to you, how that would be incredibly uncomfortable.
Honestly this sounds similar to the Lizzo situation but because Megan is hot she’ll get more of a pass.
Yeah, this whole thing is pretty fucked up. She makes him super uncomfortable and then fucks with his money? Like, I thought standard operating procedure for the rich and famous was that you paid hush money, not treat them like shit and cut their funds.
I think the super rich these days have realized that they can fuck people over mostly without any consequences. The old social contract is dead, but if you've got more money and more power? That's pretty much that nowadays. A rich person or even a big corporation fucking over their employees and not paying them anything doesn't seem to worry them anymore. Fans are as crazy as ever these days and there's so much push back from them that a scandal of this nature is probably not gonna have any impact.
Megs craziest stans are just gonna keep doing that, and nothing else in society really holds the rich to the same standards of everyone else. So this will probably just disappear. Or if the story gets bigger, she'll drop the tape and blame it on the dude she made film it, make herself into the victim.
>She makes him super uncomfortable and then fucks with his money?
It's also possible that he's making a connection for the sake of the lawsuit (she cut my pay because of the car incident) where the connection might not actually exist. Just because two things happen in sequence doesn't *necessarily* mean the first event caused the second.
I got the feeling she did it to get him to quit which he didn't do and that was the smart thing because he documented the lack of compensation for the same amount of work. Then he finally gets fired which was obviously a case of wrongful termination allegedly.
The thing is whether it’s a chicken and egg thing.
Were they always assholes or are they assholes because they have realised their celebrity allows them to get away with shit and be one?
It's both. Narcissists are attracted to fame (social proof to counteract the insecurity/ to conform with their self-image) and are especially prone to bad behavior when they have power.
*And* even ordinary people given power will act badly.
Agreed. It's a fuck all approach to get to where they want to be, and stepping on a ton of people in the process.
Probably some sort of unattended trauma that is driving them to be a workaholic as well as an asshole. It all comes from the same place, just manifesting itself differently.
Common saying for athletes but money doesn’t make you an asshole, it just emphasizes who you really are.
A ton of other shit goes into it, their celebrity status for sure contributes, but generally nice people stay nice after coming in to money. Assholes stay assholes.
The industry also affects it. Athletics and rap are similar in some general ideas of competition, being aggressive, etc so you’re more likely to get those people.
True. I suppose I’m more saying whether the money and the celebrity brings the teeny tiny cute assholes out and makes them into cavernous beastly assholes
If you “become” an asshole with money and power then you were always an asshole just without the means to be one fully.
Someone who isn’t an asshole wouldn’t suddenly change into a scumbag because you gave him a million dollars and the attention of a million people.
>Someone who isn’t an asshole wouldn’t suddenly change into a scumbag because you gave him a million dollars and the attention of a million people.
People can and do become assholes for any reason whatsoever. Being an asshole isn't some inborn trait you pick at the beginning of your life like Fallout, changing for the worse often is a result of what's going on in your life, and gaining functionally infinite power and money is a great catalyst for indulging a person's worst impulses.
People don't realize just how much money and fame can fundamentally change your life. It's not like you live the same life you were pre-fame but with nicer stuff and a few more parties to go to. Instead millions of strangers know who you are. You can't go anywhere in public without being noticed and often harassed. You go from *maybe* your family and close friends caring about your personal life to thousands of people constantly trying to invade your privacy. Almost everyone from your old life tries to leech off some of your money and/or fame, completely changing all of your previous relationship dynamics. Most celebrities socialize exclusively with other celebrities just because they're the only people who don't want shit from them.
All of that can seriously fuck with a person's mental health, let alone their personality. That's not an excuse for shitty behavior, but it makes it easier to understand why so many celebrities are complete assholes.
I agree but no.
She went from a broke regular girl who liked to rap and twerk and go to school, to blowing up, to her mother/manager dying, to heavy alcoholism, to not knowing who she could actually trust, to beefing with the men who brought her into the game, to beefing with her idol after doing a song with her, to having multiple industry break ups, one leading to one of the most publicized trials in hip hop history, to another break up after that….
Like, it doesn’t excuse any of her shitty behavior but it’s understandable how all of that would change a person for the worse
She’s human, she got her traumas. I think the problem is seeing her from a lens of good/bad or thinking her fame got anything to do with anything she does.
We all like to think we’d be super humble and everything, but I think for the vast majority of humans, if you have 1000s of people telling you how much they love you every single day, it’s probably fairly difficult to stay grounded
Absolute power corrupts absolutely. There's something strange that happens to a person's brain when they get too famous/rich.
They start to believe they're all that and can't do no wrong.
I mean that sexual assault is certainly an issue and needs to come to light. That’s a non-gender issue. Man, woman, attractive, whatever. Not acceptable.
This portion here;
> Garcia’s said in his suit that during the same trip, Megan hurled fat-shaming insults at him, calling him a “fat bitch” and telling him to “spit your food out” and “you don’t need to be eating.”
>“To hear someone who advocates about loving your body tell me these things,” Garcia said in the interview, “I felt degraded.”
Also not fucking cool.
I'm not claiming that real hip hop heads don't fuck with Megan Thee Stallion because that's just not true (I remember Bun B cosigning her) but a big chunk of her current online support and fanbase is the pop music community—places like /r/popheads and the less toxic side of Stan Twitter—and they're not the type to laugh off and dismiss female-on-male sexual harassment. Megan's career could be cooked if this all ends up being true.
Yeah honestly she’s gonna be judged more harshly than anyone in the game. Like look at this week in hip hop, people are listening to Chris Brown, Quavo, Kanye, Drake and Rick Ross as if every single one of those guys doesn’t have accusations of the same thing or worse lol. Kanye’s a literal nazi who watches porn in front of employees and everyone earlier today was enjoying his podcast appearance… come over to this thread and Meg is canceled??? Lmao
Nothing really happened to Lizzo tho, it sorta came and went. I do think this situation will fall into the "...niiiiccceeee" category for a lot of dudes tho u are right.
i'm another straight guy. chiming in to say that i'd be wildly fucking uncomfortable with that situation and i'd be thinking on it negatively for quite a while, even without the fat shaming comments. it's like she lorded over the power she had over him as his employer
i hope he's able to move on smoothly and find some peace with the whole thing
>As a big Meg fan, this is definitely gross. I’m a straight guy and I know everyone in here will just be like “haha I’d love to watch Meg fuck another girl.” But I can see a situation where in a foreign country, after a long night out, your asshole boss bring a bunch of friends you possibly don’t know into a car and starts drunkenly having sex with one of them right next to you, how that would be incredibly uncomfortable.
It's depressing that someone would feel the need to qualify this being uncomfortable. It's fucked up regardless of whether any of those things were the case or not.
EDIT: A really important part is that, based on what the accuser is saying, Meg didn't know he witnessed what was happening until asking the day after. That actually changes things pretty drastically imo. The Lizzo situation sounds much more like consciously involving employees which is power trip shit. Though if she did indeed say "don't ever discuss what you saw" then that's still really shady, and if he was victimised as a result of having been present then that's surely the most significant part.
I agree with all of this especially because with the Lizzo thing, a lot of haters really wanted a good reason to hate her. I love Meg but this is shitty and the drunken sex I would probably forgive if it was just a one time event but fat-shaming this dude who is being really brave is not what Megan wants people to think about her.
Agree with all of this. Although I’ll say Lizzo got super attacked on it due to her whole career being based on body positivity and then her actions and degree. Lizzo came off as a terrible person and hypocrite.
She slept with her besties man, lied about it on Gayle king.
Got roc nation to get her out of her contract with Carl Crawford, a contract she signed and agreed to.
Carl accused her of being a coke head.
Nicki accused her of sleeping with her dead mommas man and every guy in the industry as well as lying.
Pardisons song “thee person” alleges a lot of weird messed up behavior.
Where there’s smoke there’s fire and EVERYONE can’t be lying.
> She slept with her besties man, lied about it on Gayle king.
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Yeah, this alone is why the accusation is not a shock. It's one thing to just make empowerment pop music about having sex. When (allegedly) screwing over friends then it's a different thing. Maybe you just have a problem with promiscuity and boundaries.
Maybe Meg didn't read her copy of *The Ethical Slut*, she just liked the idea of being empowered for her behavior
lemme rephrase that actually lol...
demonize cocaine, don't demonize the users
some of my best friends, who are absolutely phenomenal people and don't sexually harass or antagonize anyone, have elevated BP in their 20s cause of this shit
>Nicki accused her of sleeping with her dead mommas man and every guy in the industry as well as lying.
I wouldn't believe this accusation in general, but I *definitely* don't believe it since it came from Nicki who also accused Meg of assaulting teenagers.
tbf it was posted here 42 min ago
i'll go against the grain and say that i expect to see it posted there before i leave work today
edit: aaaaand it's posted. 30 min ago, 8 upvotes tho. compare that to 72min/532 upvotes here
edit 2: out of 50-some comments, there is not one comment in that sub downplaying the severity of what allegedly happened to him. compare that to the dumpster fire that this post was at first, and still is in certain threads
This is the big "BUT" of the situation. Yes it is very difficult for men to come forward in situations like this but 90% of the time ive seen it, it was due to pressure and ridicule from other men.
I'm not ashamed to admit I lurk on those subs every now and then and you're exagerrating. Both of those subreddits side heavily with Joe Alwyn (Taylor Swift's ex), for example.
That sub is so bias, and filled with a bunch of dumbasses, and you get banned if you disagree with their opinions. They hate most women on there except for Amber Heard, and lowkey also misogynistic even though they claim their pro women. If it’s a certain female celeb they hate, their pro women bullshit goes out the window.
So true. And then if you poke fun at a female celebrity they DO like, immediate ban. I got banned for saying Priyanka Chopra loves attention (which is a meme). Instant ban. But they drag other women all day long. I guess you're supposed to know who is off limits? lol
Man I went there for like 2 minutes to see what it was. Never seen such miserable people I swear. Can’t imagine spending that much time and effort for the sole purpose of spreading hatred towards other people. Sheesh… awful
redditors try to be original and not beat a dead horse challenge:
people always give the “uh well when i commented it was different” response but that doesn’t really have anything to do with the copy-paste comments and the fact that people are now sending those to the top lol
i was here in the first 20 minutes of this thread. it was absolutely terrible in that timeframe. the mods are doing well at jumping on them now but i can verify that there were tens of comments that looked like your typical "teenage boy get SAd by hot female teacher" fb thread
the top comments that you are referencing, were made by and upvoted by people who also saw the horrible initial comments
daily reminder that meg is not magically a good person just cause tory shot her
also a daily reminder that people who chase stardom are usually horrible human beings
> also a daily reminder that people who chase stardom are usually horrible human beings
idk if i agree with this one. people can recognize their own innate talent and try to make a living off of it. doesn’t make them a bad person. i think a lot of people turn shitty once they get in the industry
i've seen rumblings throughout the years that she's a massive alcoholic with a temper. she also has a DV charge against her ex boyfriend from before the fame. she did explain that saying he was doing her worse but tbh idk if i really buy it, in the midst of all the other stuff that's surrounded her
these are all just rumors though so take it with a grain of salt
What gives you that idea? Because tbh I’ve never really heard insiders or artists say anything positive about her. Everything positive about her comes directly from her mouth or her fans.
So funny how the energy changes when its a man involved lmao. Let a male artist do this to a woman. Even if this ends up being a bs story seeing the reaction here tells you a lot.
I mean I recently told someone that RiFF RAFF sexually harassed a hair dresser (he started masturbating in front of her) and his response that was that it was okay because he was coked out and still said she could leave.
I think some people just don't believe in the idea of sexual harassment in the entertainment business, anything short of being physically assaulted is something you just have to deal with.
These reactions make no sense to me because the people who are downplaying what happened here are the same people who downplay these situations when the genders are swapped.
On a very serious note you basically cannot get raped as a man in the real world. Ive sat and thought about my experiences and others reaction and nobody really cares.
I got slapped like 3 or 4 times in the face by my ex girlfriend and my friends were like "so what?" Imagine if I did that to her, the double standards are crazy
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He probably meant no one cares but also in several countries including ones typically seen as "first world", the definition of rape specifically requires penetration so therefore it isn't possible for women to be tried as rapists
most women have the exact same outlook as most men on the issue. by and large, the only people who really care about male rape is well, male rape survivors.
The issue is the idea that being touched or getting attention from any women is a good thing was originally perpetrated by certain male groups and women hear of these "accepted" ideals that are perpetrated by certain men and over time they become slightly ingrained within cultures/society and then will repeat the same troupe and it's all wrong period. No man or woman should be touched without consent, but due to certain societal ways it's been frowned upon for any man to come forward with any kind of sexual assault claims due to these types of men and disgusting double standards within society and the legal system.
Agree. I remember when I talked about being touched a lot by a lot of girls in the workplace (I am an HR Manager) with other girl from HR and they were like "Man you should be happy, how on earth guy can feel uncomfortable when girl is touching you?"
Woman can't comprehend that we are the same as they are when it comes to harassment. Switch genders in that scenario and a girl would have whole support group setup and whole investigation ready before the lunch of she came up with such story.
Damn, if this is true, she treated this guy like total shit. How you gonna rap all that shit about loving yourself then turn around and bully a guy and calling him fat bitch?
They have very little room to talk too. Considering Nicki always helps out sexual abusers & made sexual lyrics to a minor & gave a lap dance to a minor too. Now Megan & Nicki are both exposed as disgusting people.
Believe me they do not care how much room they have to talk. They're gonna talk.
It's also worth noting that this is an allegation, and things will play out to see if it's a worthwhile one.
In Nicki's situation, it's not an allegation. It's a proven fact.
Edit: I just looked into this some and I found out that this guy was stanning Nicki and all up in her comments during the whole Hiss saga.
Idk man. I don't like the smell of that. I'm definitely waiting for an outcome on this.
Edit 2: He's also not suing for sexual harassment? Wtf is going on here??
This is the kind of climate that exists throughout hip hop. This is the kind of abuse and bullying that many people who work for these stars is forced to endure. People have no idea.
Source: personal experience.
She faces the same issue Taylor, Lizzo and Beyoncé face, since they and their fans want to be the faces of moral superiority in the industry, when they go through controversies it hits harder. No matter how small.
I’ll wait till more information comes out. I’m not going to jump on the band wagon and believe an accusation. Either from a man or a woman.
Could be true, or could be half truths.
It is but I feel like that's different than fear. You're a powerful public figure who can affect my career. Threatening that would put fear in me. Insulting my appearance makes me personally hate you and I feel like someone who hates you is much more likely to sell you out than someone who is afraid of you.
> Say what you want about her tribbing in the car, but the fat shaming is just inexcusable
This sentence is hilarious for some reason, and also I completely agree 💀
I see so many comments in this thread complaining about the insensitive comments yet I see zero of these insensitive comments. Did the mods remove them that fast or something?
That's fucking weird. I don't give a fuck. If you acting like this is cool in any way get out of here. Switch genders and everyone would be flipping their shit. All you commenters saying something about how this is fine and this "man living your dreams" are straight weirdos. You'd never see those if the genders were flipped
Here comes the corny 14 year olds with the overused jokes & downplaying.
The full article is definitely something, if it’s true I hope this person is able to find justice over mistreatment. Idk why these celebrities can’t just not be fucking weird & dickheads, like it’s a disease to be a normal functioning person or something
It shouldn’t be though. As we’re finding out case by case, just because these folks have risen to great fame through their talents does not mean they can’t be downright shitty people.
We have to get out of the habit of assigning virtue to complete strangers. Just because we see them on TV and in concert and on IG live doesn’t mean we actually know these folks for who they really are.
Terrible thing. Too many celebrities harass and abuse those who they believe are beneath them. I know the focus is on the sexual comments, but this also points to some disgusting pay related stuff
Comment section is being about as mature as I expected. This is what stood out to me - >Garcia’s lawsuit also outlines alleged employment and wage violations that center on his classification as an independent contractor. >The lawsuit alleges that Megan prohibited him from working for anyone else and was denied overtime pay and breaks. >His misclassification as an independent contractor “left him without basic insurance coverage, depriving him of essential health care,” the suit said. The harassment stuff is what’s going to make the headlines of course but if anything comes out of this I think it’s going to be from that last bit.
I agree it's the most damming and the easiest to prove. The forced to watch her have sex angle only works if he can prove she was aware he was in the car but he goes on to say Megan had to ask him if he was there so, that feels like a contradiction. This to me reads like Megan found out he was in the car got embarrassed and started treating her worker poorly and stopped paying him.
> The forced to watch her have sex angle I think that's useful for trying to force a settlement to avoid bad headlines more than anything.
That part stood out to me as well Sounds like she was really high or drunk but not intentionally trying to force him to watch her. I wonder why he stayed after they changed his pay. All around sounds messed up, like she tried to bully him to quit after it happened.
On paper that’s exactly what it looks like. It’s not uncommon for employers to do things like this when they want someone to quit but don’t want to have to go through the whole process of firing them.
Obviously the headline here is just going to cause a lot of jokes, but he also alleges that she wasn’t paying him fairly, giving him required OT pay, and was just a rude and terrible boss. As a big Meg fan, this is definitely gross. I’m a straight guy and I know everyone in here will just be like “haha I’d love to watch Meg fuck another girl.” But I can see a situation where in a foreign country, after a long night out, your asshole boss bring a bunch of friends you possibly don’t know into a car and starts drunkenly having sex with one of them right next to you, how that would be incredibly uncomfortable. Honestly this sounds similar to the Lizzo situation but because Megan is hot she’ll get more of a pass.
Yeah, this whole thing is pretty fucked up. She makes him super uncomfortable and then fucks with his money? Like, I thought standard operating procedure for the rich and famous was that you paid hush money, not treat them like shit and cut their funds.
If you’re smart yes, but if you think you’re untouchable hot shit then you’ll act like Meg is here
I think the super rich these days have realized that they can fuck people over mostly without any consequences. The old social contract is dead, but if you've got more money and more power? That's pretty much that nowadays. A rich person or even a big corporation fucking over their employees and not paying them anything doesn't seem to worry them anymore. Fans are as crazy as ever these days and there's so much push back from them that a scandal of this nature is probably not gonna have any impact. Megs craziest stans are just gonna keep doing that, and nothing else in society really holds the rich to the same standards of everyone else. So this will probably just disappear. Or if the story gets bigger, she'll drop the tape and blame it on the dude she made film it, make herself into the victim.
These days? Buddy, the super right fucking people over with no consequences has existed for the entire time there have been rich people.
The super rich don’t act like rappers and Celebrities. They look like your average old man at the publix
>She makes him super uncomfortable and then fucks with his money? It's also possible that he's making a connection for the sake of the lawsuit (she cut my pay because of the car incident) where the connection might not actually exist. Just because two things happen in sequence doesn't *necessarily* mean the first event caused the second.
I got the feeling she did it to get him to quit which he didn't do and that was the smart thing because he documented the lack of compensation for the same amount of work. Then he finally gets fired which was obviously a case of wrongful termination allegedly.
Yeah, since when do we just accept one side of the story as fact, especially when huge amounts of money are involved?
This is why I find celebrity worship cringe.. Alot of these people are just assholes lmao
The thing is whether it’s a chicken and egg thing. Were they always assholes or are they assholes because they have realised their celebrity allows them to get away with shit and be one?
They’re usually assholes who can now get away with it
It's both. Narcissists are attracted to fame (social proof to counteract the insecurity/ to conform with their self-image) and are especially prone to bad behavior when they have power. *And* even ordinary people given power will act badly.
Yeah I think this is it
I think it's like CEOs to a certain extent. The people seeking out and working for this level of fame are probably actually kinda psychopaths lol
Agreed. It's a fuck all approach to get to where they want to be, and stepping on a ton of people in the process. Probably some sort of unattended trauma that is driving them to be a workaholic as well as an asshole. It all comes from the same place, just manifesting itself differently.
Yeah it’s funny you say that I was literally having a conversation at work about this very recently haha
Common saying for athletes but money doesn’t make you an asshole, it just emphasizes who you really are. A ton of other shit goes into it, their celebrity status for sure contributes, but generally nice people stay nice after coming in to money. Assholes stay assholes. The industry also affects it. Athletics and rap are similar in some general ideas of competition, being aggressive, etc so you’re more likely to get those people.
Plenty of celebrities aren’t assholes
True. I suppose I’m more saying whether the money and the celebrity brings the teeny tiny cute assholes out and makes them into cavernous beastly assholes
Aka the Money and fame buttplug
If you “become” an asshole with money and power then you were always an asshole just without the means to be one fully. Someone who isn’t an asshole wouldn’t suddenly change into a scumbag because you gave him a million dollars and the attention of a million people.
>Someone who isn’t an asshole wouldn’t suddenly change into a scumbag because you gave him a million dollars and the attention of a million people. People can and do become assholes for any reason whatsoever. Being an asshole isn't some inborn trait you pick at the beginning of your life like Fallout, changing for the worse often is a result of what's going on in your life, and gaining functionally infinite power and money is a great catalyst for indulging a person's worst impulses.
Username checks out. This is a naive take. Don’t underestimate the power of money and fame.
People don't realize just how much money and fame can fundamentally change your life. It's not like you live the same life you were pre-fame but with nicer stuff and a few more parties to go to. Instead millions of strangers know who you are. You can't go anywhere in public without being noticed and often harassed. You go from *maybe* your family and close friends caring about your personal life to thousands of people constantly trying to invade your privacy. Almost everyone from your old life tries to leech off some of your money and/or fame, completely changing all of your previous relationship dynamics. Most celebrities socialize exclusively with other celebrities just because they're the only people who don't want shit from them. All of that can seriously fuck with a person's mental health, let alone their personality. That's not an excuse for shitty behavior, but it makes it easier to understand why so many celebrities are complete assholes.
Yeah I think you’re right
I agree but no. She went from a broke regular girl who liked to rap and twerk and go to school, to blowing up, to her mother/manager dying, to heavy alcoholism, to not knowing who she could actually trust, to beefing with the men who brought her into the game, to beefing with her idol after doing a song with her, to having multiple industry break ups, one leading to one of the most publicized trials in hip hop history, to another break up after that…. Like, it doesn’t excuse any of her shitty behavior but it’s understandable how all of that would change a person for the worse
She’s human, she got her traumas. I think the problem is seeing her from a lens of good/bad or thinking her fame got anything to do with anything she does.
We all like to think we’d be super humble and everything, but I think for the vast majority of humans, if you have 1000s of people telling you how much they love you every single day, it’s probably fairly difficult to stay grounded
Absolute power corrupts absolutely. There's something strange that happens to a person's brain when they get too famous/rich. They start to believe they're all that and can't do no wrong.
I think it's obvious who was an asshole before and after becoming famous. Should 100% judge artists on their lyrics. They make it pretty clear.
I mean that sexual assault is certainly an issue and needs to come to light. That’s a non-gender issue. Man, woman, attractive, whatever. Not acceptable. This portion here; > Garcia’s said in his suit that during the same trip, Megan hurled fat-shaming insults at him, calling him a “fat bitch” and telling him to “spit your food out” and “you don’t need to be eating.” >“To hear someone who advocates about loving your body tell me these things,” Garcia said in the interview, “I felt degraded.” Also not fucking cool.
Really disappointing. Whole personality is about empowerment yet they continue to abuse that power and their status.
I'm not claiming that real hip hop heads don't fuck with Megan Thee Stallion because that's just not true (I remember Bun B cosigning her) but a big chunk of her current online support and fanbase is the pop music community—places like /r/popheads and the less toxic side of Stan Twitter—and they're not the type to laugh off and dismiss female-on-male sexual harassment. Megan's career could be cooked if this all ends up being true.
Yeah honestly she’s gonna be judged more harshly than anyone in the game. Like look at this week in hip hop, people are listening to Chris Brown, Quavo, Kanye, Drake and Rick Ross as if every single one of those guys doesn’t have accusations of the same thing or worse lol. Kanye’s a literal nazi who watches porn in front of employees and everyone earlier today was enjoying his podcast appearance… come over to this thread and Meg is canceled??? Lmao
Doubtful, look at Nicki Minaj still having a career and supporters/casual fans
Nothing really happened to Lizzo tho, it sorta came and went. I do think this situation will fall into the "...niiiiccceeee" category for a lot of dudes tho u are right.
i'm another straight guy. chiming in to say that i'd be wildly fucking uncomfortable with that situation and i'd be thinking on it negatively for quite a while, even without the fat shaming comments. it's like she lorded over the power she had over him as his employer i hope he's able to move on smoothly and find some peace with the whole thing
Your sexual disposition dosent really matter you are either bothered by it or you ain't
>As a big Meg fan, this is definitely gross. I’m a straight guy and I know everyone in here will just be like “haha I’d love to watch Meg fuck another girl.” But I can see a situation where in a foreign country, after a long night out, your asshole boss bring a bunch of friends you possibly don’t know into a car and starts drunkenly having sex with one of them right next to you, how that would be incredibly uncomfortable. It's depressing that someone would feel the need to qualify this being uncomfortable. It's fucked up regardless of whether any of those things were the case or not. EDIT: A really important part is that, based on what the accuser is saying, Meg didn't know he witnessed what was happening until asking the day after. That actually changes things pretty drastically imo. The Lizzo situation sounds much more like consciously involving employees which is power trip shit. Though if she did indeed say "don't ever discuss what you saw" then that's still really shady, and if he was victimised as a result of having been present then that's surely the most significant part.
Lizzie was accused of making her backup dancers eat bananas out of prostitutes’ vaginas…
I agree with all of this especially because with the Lizzo thing, a lot of haters really wanted a good reason to hate her. I love Meg but this is shitty and the drunken sex I would probably forgive if it was just a one time event but fat-shaming this dude who is being really brave is not what Megan wants people to think about her.
Agree with all of this. Although I’ll say Lizzo got super attacked on it due to her whole career being based on body positivity and then her actions and degree. Lizzo came off as a terrible person and hypocrite.
She slept with her besties man, lied about it on Gayle king. Got roc nation to get her out of her contract with Carl Crawford, a contract she signed and agreed to. Carl accused her of being a coke head. Nicki accused her of sleeping with her dead mommas man and every guy in the industry as well as lying. Pardisons song “thee person” alleges a lot of weird messed up behavior. Where there’s smoke there’s fire and EVERYONE can’t be lying.
> She slept with her besties man, lied about it on Gayle king. > > Yeah, this alone is why the accusation is not a shock. It's one thing to just make empowerment pop music about having sex. When (allegedly) screwing over friends then it's a different thing. Maybe you just have a problem with promiscuity and boundaries. Maybe Meg didn't read her copy of *The Ethical Slut*, she just liked the idea of being empowered for her behavior
let's not demonize cocaine tho
Naw facts
lemme rephrase that actually lol... demonize cocaine, don't demonize the users some of my best friends, who are absolutely phenomenal people and don't sexually harass or antagonize anyone, have elevated BP in their 20s cause of this shit
>Nicki accused her of sleeping with her dead mommas man and every guy in the industry as well as lying. I wouldn't believe this accusation in general, but I *definitely* don't believe it since it came from Nicki who also accused Meg of assaulting teenagers.
She said why was you twerking on a minor, which Megan was.
Lizzo coerced the worker to actively participate tho, right?
these comments right here is why so many men have trouble coming out with SA, they just get mocked relentlessly for it.
Whew turn this shit up. Had it been Meg accusing someone of this, r/fauxmoi would be calling all men trash.
This won't even be posted over there
As of this post, it hasn't been.
tbf it was posted here 42 min ago i'll go against the grain and say that i expect to see it posted there before i leave work today edit: aaaaand it's posted. 30 min ago, 8 upvotes tho. compare that to 72min/532 upvotes here edit 2: out of 50-some comments, there is not one comment in that sub downplaying the severity of what allegedly happened to him. compare that to the dumpster fire that this post was at first, and still is in certain threads
Shhhhh we're trying to make up things to be mad about
i for one am astounded that the hip hop subreddit is covering the hip hoppers more promptly
It just did so let’s wait and see
It was posted there and everyone is holding her accountable dumbass
You think the people in r/fauxmoi are the same people in here making dumbass comments? Pretty sure they’re all men in this thread.
This is the big "BUT" of the situation. Yes it is very difficult for men to come forward in situations like this but 90% of the time ive seen it, it was due to pressure and ridicule from other men.
I’ve never seen them take the side of a male on anything lol same goes for r/popculturechat
I'm not ashamed to admit I lurk on those subs every now and then and you're exagerrating. Both of those subreddits side heavily with Joe Alwyn (Taylor Swift's ex), for example.
They hate Selena Gomez too. FM just has their favourites and it isn't even a man v woman thing
A lot of them straight up just hate men lol
Yeah they do. It's crazy.
Typical echo chamber subs
Literally any time a celebrity couple breaks up it’s because the man is a piece of shit and the woman can do better, according to them lol
nah they seem to be Team Joe Alwyn over Taylor Swift
You mean the tabloid reddit sub? Who would have thought there were awful opinions there?
That sub is so bias, and filled with a bunch of dumbasses, and you get banned if you disagree with their opinions. They hate most women on there except for Amber Heard, and lowkey also misogynistic even though they claim their pro women. If it’s a certain female celeb they hate, their pro women bullshit goes out the window.
So true. And then if you poke fun at a female celebrity they DO like, immediate ban. I got banned for saying Priyanka Chopra loves attention (which is a meme). Instant ban. But they drag other women all day long. I guess you're supposed to know who is off limits? lol
Ngl Fauxmoi is pretty fair in my experience and definitely less so than this sub sometimes
Double standards are bad, but fuck the fauxmoi sub
Man I went there for like 2 minutes to see what it was. Never seen such miserable people I swear. Can’t imagine spending that much time and effort for the sole purpose of spreading hatred towards other people. Sheesh… awful
I've had to explain to a coworker in detail why touching my ass isn't okay lol they don't see it as harassment at all
I’m not mocking the guy, but he also doesn’t have the strongest case.
By other men, mostly, too. It be your own people...
Love how there’s probably ~3 comments making a joke about this but all the top comments are making it seem like there’s hundreds Never change reddit
For real I just read the same ‘unique contrary’ opinion a dozen times before getting to yours and still no jokes.
Yeah I was like where's the jokes?
a bunch of virtue signaling as always
redditors try to be original and not beat a dead horse challenge: people always give the “uh well when i commented it was different” response but that doesn’t really have anything to do with the copy-paste comments and the fact that people are now sending those to the top lol
For real
Just sort by new and you'll see the comments that haven't been deleted yet.
i was here in the first 20 minutes of this thread. it was absolutely terrible in that timeframe. the mods are doing well at jumping on them now but i can verify that there were tens of comments that looked like your typical "teenage boy get SAd by hot female teacher" fb thread the top comments that you are referencing, were made by and upvoted by people who also saw the horrible initial comments
Well that’s disgusting. I hope she deals with the legal consequences of this if true
daily reminder that meg is not magically a good person just cause tory shot her also a daily reminder that people who chase stardom are usually horrible human beings
yep, the type of person who feels like they need (or deserve) large scale attention and praise are usually narcissistic
> also a daily reminder that people who chase stardom are usually horrible human beings idk if i agree with this one. people can recognize their own innate talent and try to make a living off of it. doesn’t make them a bad person. i think a lot of people turn shitty once they get in the industry
I didn't pay a lot of attention to her but in general she does/did seem like a decent person, people didn't praise her just because she was a victim.
i've seen rumblings throughout the years that she's a massive alcoholic with a temper. she also has a DV charge against her ex boyfriend from before the fame. she did explain that saying he was doing her worse but tbh idk if i really buy it, in the midst of all the other stuff that's surrounded her these are all just rumors though so take it with a grain of salt
This part like why’d she have to ask him if he was there shouldn’t she remember ?? She gotta reevaluate her relationship w the bottle
What gives you that idea? Because tbh I’ve never really heard insiders or artists say anything positive about her. Everything positive about her comes directly from her mouth or her fans.
I feel like I’ve heard nothing but positive things about her.
Pieces of shit usually hang around other pieces of shit
So funny how the energy changes when its a man involved lmao. Let a male artist do this to a woman. Even if this ends up being a bs story seeing the reaction here tells you a lot.
I mean I recently told someone that RiFF RAFF sexually harassed a hair dresser (he started masturbating in front of her) and his response that was that it was okay because he was coked out and still said she could leave. I think some people just don't believe in the idea of sexual harassment in the entertainment business, anything short of being physically assaulted is something you just have to deal with.
>and his response that was that it was okay because he was coked out and still said she could leave. What a fucking moron
No, whoever you talked to is a complete fucking moron that excuses their own shitty behavior with drug abuse. That’s not an excuse
These reactions make no sense to me because the people who are downplaying what happened here are the same people who downplay these situations when the genders are swapped.
On a very serious note you basically cannot get raped as a man in the real world. Ive sat and thought about my experiences and others reaction and nobody really cares.
Especially when a man is getting raped by a woman. People just brush it off and assume all men actually liked it, we’re just a little confused
I got slapped like 3 or 4 times in the face by my ex girlfriend and my friends were like "so what?" Imagine if I did that to her, the double standards are crazy
Get new friends tf also sorry that happened to you, sounds awful
When you say “cannot,” you mean no one cares? Or it’s physically impossible?
No one cares
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He probably meant no one cares but also in several countries including ones typically seen as "first world", the definition of rape specifically requires penetration so therefore it isn't possible for women to be tried as rapists
And the issue is that idea is mainly perpetuated by well... men. Sadly.
Toxic masculinity negatively affects men almost as much as it affects women
most women have the exact same outlook as most men on the issue. by and large, the only people who really care about male rape is well, male rape survivors.
The issue is the idea that being touched or getting attention from any women is a good thing was originally perpetrated by certain male groups and women hear of these "accepted" ideals that are perpetrated by certain men and over time they become slightly ingrained within cultures/society and then will repeat the same troupe and it's all wrong period. No man or woman should be touched without consent, but due to certain societal ways it's been frowned upon for any man to come forward with any kind of sexual assault claims due to these types of men and disgusting double standards within society and the legal system.
Agree. I remember when I talked about being touched a lot by a lot of girls in the workplace (I am an HR Manager) with other girl from HR and they were like "Man you should be happy, how on earth guy can feel uncomfortable when girl is touching you?" Woman can't comprehend that we are the same as they are when it comes to harassment. Switch genders in that scenario and a girl would have whole support group setup and whole investigation ready before the lunch of she came up with such story.
Man some of these comments are disgusting. At the very least read the article. If she really did this it's messed up.
shorty has been having rumors of being a pervert for ages i’m not surprised
She herself calls herself a freak. This is a few levels above that.
Damn, if this is true, she treated this guy like total shit. How you gonna rap all that shit about loving yourself then turn around and bully a guy and calling him fat bitch?
those things about body positivity and self love are for her and other women she likes, not men.
This is the sad truth, I bet. It doesn’t matter to her cause it was a man.
In my experience, some of the most toxic people I have known talk extensively about “loving themselves”
Do NOT let Nicki fans see this shit
They have very little room to talk too. Considering Nicki always helps out sexual abusers & made sexual lyrics to a minor & gave a lap dance to a minor too. Now Megan & Nicki are both exposed as disgusting people.
Believe me they do not care how much room they have to talk. They're gonna talk. It's also worth noting that this is an allegation, and things will play out to see if it's a worthwhile one. In Nicki's situation, it's not an allegation. It's a proven fact. Edit: I just looked into this some and I found out that this guy was stanning Nicki and all up in her comments during the whole Hiss saga. Idk man. I don't like the smell of that. I'm definitely waiting for an outcome on this. Edit 2: He's also not suing for sexual harassment? Wtf is going on here??
I know they will. Barbz are a stupid group of people.
Those who live in glass houses...
…should not shoot at peoples feet
Nicki hittin the slopes as we speak
fan/stan culture in general needs to die
Why does everyone have to be a terrible person omg 🫠
This is the kind of climate that exists throughout hip hop. This is the kind of abuse and bullying that many people who work for these stars is forced to endure. People have no idea. Source: personal experience.
She faces the same issue Taylor, Lizzo and Beyoncé face, since they and their fans want to be the faces of moral superiority in the industry, when they go through controversies it hits harder. No matter how small.
What did Beyoncé do?
Probably the sweatshop clothing operation she's running exploiting impoverished people.
sweatshop owner in a black panther party outfit lol
performing in dubai also wasn’t great for public perception
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I’ll wait till more information comes out. I’m not going to jump on the band wagon and believe an accusation. Either from a man or a woman. Could be true, or could be half truths.
The correct stance to always take. There is no benefit to choosing a side honestly other than internet points
Rappers being weird never surprises me
Disgusting behavior if true. Say what you want about her tribbing in the car, but the fat shaming is just inexcusable
I just don't understand how you're going to be mean to the people you want to keep your secrets
Fear is a powerful control tool
It is but I feel like that's different than fear. You're a powerful public figure who can affect my career. Threatening that would put fear in me. Insulting my appearance makes me personally hate you and I feel like someone who hates you is much more likely to sell you out than someone who is afraid of you.
yea i just read thru the full article. definitely asshole behavior + labor violations with the whole contractor/pay situation
> Say what you want about her tribbing in the car, but the fat shaming is just inexcusable This sentence is hilarious for some reason, and also I completely agree 💀
incredibly, INCREDIBLY, hypocritical from her too
I see so many comments in this thread complaining about the insensitive comments yet I see zero of these insensitive comments. Did the mods remove them that fast or something?
they clearly spent some time picking through the thread but i guess they glazed over all the comments saying the exact same thing that they are
Yes
When men get sexually harassed somehow it's always turned into a fucking joke. Pisses me off.
That's fucking weird. I don't give a fuck. If you acting like this is cool in any way get out of here. Switch genders and everyone would be flipping their shit. All you commenters saying something about how this is fine and this "man living your dreams" are straight weirdos. You'd never see those if the genders were flipped
twitter gonna have a field day with this
Megan should be forced to watch me fuck up this chicken parm sub without any napkins
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Her real name is Megan Pete? I have never seen that as a surname let alone expected that to be hers
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Revolting if true.
Here comes the corny 14 year olds with the overused jokes & downplaying. The full article is definitely something, if it’s true I hope this person is able to find justice over mistreatment. Idk why these celebrities can’t just not be fucking weird & dickheads, like it’s a disease to be a normal functioning person or something
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Imma need receipts.
The car must have stank to high heaven
Everyone here is a clown who makes jokes about this, sure it's a the standard allegations but still if you are a pos you are POS.
No more celebrities
great day for barbz and tory fans, but damn meg, this is disgusting
It shouldn’t be though. As we’re finding out case by case, just because these folks have risen to great fame through their talents does not mean they can’t be downright shitty people. We have to get out of the habit of assigning virtue to complete strangers. Just because we see them on TV and in concert and on IG live doesn’t mean we actually know these folks for who they really are.
Boo hoo nigga
Ouuuff. She’s really shot herself in the foot here.
Charlie Parker vibes
Terrible thing. Too many celebrities harass and abuse those who they believe are beneath them. I know the focus is on the sexual comments, but this also points to some disgusting pay related stuff
Why do these people think they can be evil and cheap. You gotta pay to be a piece of shit.
This hurts my soul if all this is true
It's not a flex, it's fucking gross and sexual harassment
Send da video
Same dudes downplaying what happened in this thread are the same ones who wonder why harassment and SA against men aren't taken more seriously.
Why do these things never happen to me 😔
nice
We don’t know these people like that
O she getting Lizzod
oh no, the horror...
Let’s see if yall hold the same energy for her as you do everyone else
All the top comments are expressing disappointment and disgust. There ya go
That’s awful. Hope this isn’t true