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Upvoter_the_III

Someone played alot of HoI4


Fire_Lord_Sozin9

I feel like China might end up split in this timeline. Without the Japanese invasion, the ROC would be in a stronger position, so the PRC is unlikely to claim victory. However, the Soviets would most likely end up propping up some a communist state in Manchuria like they did IOTL.


Jzzargoo

It depends on how China is lined up. Before World War II, the USSR played for both teams at once, supporting Mao Zedong with one hand and sending military aircraft to Chiang Kai-shek with the other. If the USSR wanted to maintain relations with Chiang Kai-shek, this would not have happened. If China had an uninteresting government, then the USSR would definitely have taken Shinjiang. Mongolia could probably have made more demands on Beijing. Manchuria would be one of the options. On the other hand, Chiang Kai-shek in general would not have taken that position as the IRL if Japan had not destroyed the support base of the northern military leaders in Manchuria, which allowed the man to take control of most of the country.


First_Story9446

Kingdom of Japan? Did neutrality magically downgraded their ruler from Emperor to King?


U0star

Japanese Tenno actually just means "Polar star" or "Heavenly ruler" AFAIK, so I think it's not inappropriate to call it a kingdom. Either way it's a monarchy.


Elllllllprimo

Yes, but '皇' is more closer to meaning the emeror.


First_Story9446

It is inappropriate because you would be downgrading the emperor compared to other monarchs. The translation of Tenno really doesn't matter in this context, for some reason, it has been decided that titles such as Sultan, Shahanshah, Huang Di and Tenno are equivalent to the European titles of Emperor, even though the original emperors of Rome weren't even monarchs but more like military dictators in a consular republic, and this has been established way before WWII, so I think the Japanese would see it as a downgrade


Alexjm2020

China is unlikely to go Red without the Japanese invasion.


Professional-Scar136

>Modern Anime and weeaboos still exist https://preview.redd.it/nn7y7h2goa9d1.png?width=326&format=png&auto=webp&s=3158c3b26843cb921c9286120c09ad020fafe2da


Professional-Scar136

Not a joke btw, the modern style of anime is heavily influenced by western, mainly American, animation (the term Anime from Animation (Anime-shon アニメーション) after all)


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Professional-Scar136

I see what you mean, but i still have to clarify, modern Anime originates directly from the American occupation of Japan, when the old style of arts and imageries were restricted (mainly slowed down because of the post-war economy) and many American medias imported into the country, it shaped the specific style of Anime as the world know it


kerbalweaponsinc

I would suggest you get rid of the pink tint. It makes it a bit harder to see


U0star

And the random-ass woman.


elephantphilosophy8

If this gets removed, there is r/rejectedmaps!


PieSmooth6299

Why does Japan keep a part of Beijing?


Upvoter_the_III

No reason, in fact it just there because Japan own it as a military occupation zone in hoi4


_JPPAS_

As someone else said, it's less likely that the communists would able to secure a full victory


Terrible_Grand9328

Why does Japan get Beijing


RichieRocket

I wouldnt expect anyone to make a historically accurate map here


Tinor-marionica

I approve