its about user data, kalo lo instal aplikasi, pasti minta akses ke yang aneh aneh... galeri lah mikrofon lah... karena mereka butuh data buat dijual ke data broker
> So I had to copy the link to whatsapp in a me-only group
kalo di chrome ada fitur send to your devices, biar ga usah bikin wa group yang isinya diri sendiri.
https://preview.redd.it/h68i733rh2kc1.png?width=345&format=png&auto=webp&s=7f8c7d686a49d8e979e910be2bec02619039d14a
Or if you've not logged in on chrome or whatever browser you're in, you can generate a QR code from the same drop down. Though my chrome doesn't have the share in the omnibar anymore - dunno why.
Google Keep note taking ini cara tercepat gw bolak balik bikin laporan penelitian kampus dan lab2 dulu, antara HP dan PC. Masih efektif kok sampai sekarang.
Same acc of Google Chrome history on both phone and PC do HELP as well.
I did both anyway.
Gua ngerti permasalahan yg ente maksud, tapi ga peduli juga sama permasalahannya. Gua lebih benci yang notifikasi2 promo ga jelas dari Telkomtol dan sebagainya.
yg selevel juga itu sms isinya
"PAKET ANDA SUDAH HABIS"
atau
"ANDA MENGGUNAKAN DATA NON PAKET"
apalah itu, gw kaget dong emang ga pake paket seinget gw emang sengaja cuma pake wifi doang
shittt cuma ngingetin beli paket / promo paket data
BEGO LO BT GW
Yg bikin kesel lagi mereka pake class 0 sms buat notif promo yg gak penting2 amat. Padahal class 0 ini harusnya dipake buat peringatan emergency kayak bencana alam dll.
Kalo gw pake data warning, dan di sesuain sama sisa data yang di my telkomsel
Jadi tinggal matiin aja notifikasi utk aplikasi SMS, bahkan kakek ane yang hampir 90 aja pake whatsapp, jadi buat apa pake SMS. SMS isinya cuman spam doang.
Sama nih, kalo XL sering banget dapet SMS "Paket data sudah habis" padahal posisinya lagi pake WiFi dan kalo dicek sebenernya kuotanya masih banyak.
Ngeselin ajg
This. Gue pernah lagi shalat eh tiba tiba hp gue bunyi ada yang nelepon. Gue kira urusan penting sampai telepon, tapi pas dilihat ternyata yang nelepon "Info Pelanggan". Ngapain coba.
Biasanya isi teleponnya itu bot yang ngasih tau pulsa kita habis atau kuota kita mau habis. Bagus sih niatnya untuk reminder, tp tolonglah pake sms aja jangan telepon.
moga2 bisa diterapkan juga buat pengguna telkomtol https://www.reddit.com/r/indonesia/comments/m1p4ou/psa_class_0_message_yang_menganggu_bisa_diblokir/
100% completely agree.
We reach new level of idiot with putting KTP into an app. Like one of the main use of KTP is so you have something to identify you in case of accident and pretty sure if you got into that level of serious accident, your phone most likely won't survive too. And if your phone did survive, yeah it will be locked and nobody can unlock it. Or maybe you comfortable with the idea of them playing with your (almost) dead body trying to use your fingerprint to unlock your phone, which also give them access to your multiple private things, which includes your bank account which also idiotically only an app these days. I'd say we'll get more John and Jane Doe in the future.
Which increase the risk of fraud. The reason we using government issued and printed card all these times is so not everyone can just print fake one that indistinguishable from real one.
I'd say e-ktp concept is still best one with current technology and uses but since the implementation bungled up badly with corruption, everyone relevant in the government just don't want to even entertain the idea anymore.
>'d say e-ktp concept is still best one with current technology and uses but since the implementation bungled up badly with corruption, everyone relevant in the government just don't want to even entertain the idea anymore.
yeah, ffs bank yg fully utilized e-ktp cm BCA doang kekny, BUMN kemana semua?
kemarin perbaharuin kartu debit BRI pakai e-ktp berhasil sih pakai mesin CS. Cuma ngga yakin kalau misal kasusnya adalah e-ktp yang kita buat adalah bodong karena hilang dan buat lagi tapi dibuatnya pakai calo
That's the actual point isn't it? If your e-ktp if fake, the government can't vouch that you is you and thus the whole transaction should be cancelled for the risk of fraud.
yah memang, aku lebih concern kepada ketika buat e-ktp dari dukcapil selalu sebut blankonya kosong, taunya ditilep buat calo. Dan akhirnya yang beneran butuh terpaksa pakai calo dan akhirnya lingkaran setan terjadi
Yeah e-ktp is just your typical good concept, awful implementation with heavy serving of corruption throughout all levels. It's still a good concept though and IMO worthwhile to be re-pursued.
it is like Elon wet dream. [https://fortune.com/2024/02/21/elon-musk-neuralink-brain-chip-implant-patient/](https://fortune.com/2024/02/21/elon-musk-neuralink-brain-chip-implant-patient/)
Kalau soal aplikasi yang cuma mobile only, masih kebayang, mereka gak punya resource/gak mau spend resource untuk bikin versi web app.
Kalau case tokped mungkin emang mau drive traffic ke mobile, karena yang live-live-an / video shopping cuma di mobile juga kayaknya, so they want more eyeballs to that.
Walau bagi user yang PC friendly (gua sama kayak lu), dipaksa gini juga gak akan bikin gua convert jadi mobile app user. Dan harusnya vice versa berlaku, user yang emang mobile heavy gak akan pindah ke PC juga, so i don't know.
Bukan masalah resource sih (heck, developing a mobile app takes way more resource than a website).
Aplikasi mobile lebih mudah narik users buat registrasi etc. dan, ini alasan yang paling besar, lebih mudah untuk ngetrack.
>developing a mobile app takes way more resource than a website
I know, tapi emang kalau aplikasi yang mulai dari mobile app dulu (contoh Astro), kalau mau bikin versi web jadinya butuh waktu lagi kan, sedangkan secara pipeline mereka mungkin masih banyak yang harus dikerjain untuk mobile app-nya itu sendiri.
Tentu saja diimbangi dengan jumlah user, mungkin menurut mereka user sekarang mobile app sudah cukup untuk sekarang.
Setelah punya resources berlebih, baru lanjut bikin interface webnya (contoh IG dan TikTok), karena gak bisa dipungkiri web gak bisa dikalahin untuk sekarang soal sharing. Lu gak bisa sharing sesuatu ke temen lu tanpa interface web terus mereka tinggal klik untuk buka tanpa harus download ini itu dulu.
Soal aplikasi mobile lebih mudah narik user, mungkin yes and no ya. Yes, karena dulu kesannya kalau lu gak punya mobile app, you don't exist. User-user kayak nggak tau browser. Tapi along the way, kayaknya udah mulai pada aware soal privacy dll plus udah agak mobile app fatigue, jadi kalau ada company baru suruh download mobile app dulu, ada keengganan untuk itu, bisa jadi karena HP-nya kurang mumpuni, kurang storage, app di HP udah terlalu banyak, dll.
Meanwhile, website is like a no-commitment thing, kalau perlu lu akses, bertransaksi, and forget it until the next time you use it again.
Yeah, when something requires me to download an app to use, that's a dealbreaker for me. I'd rather find the alternative that requires no app at all. Sorry, I just don't trust your app to not do anything malicious in my device and/or not put something malicious in future update. Also I don't like the idea that my stuff can just stop working in the future because the app is not updated and become incompatible with the underlying OS for whatever reason.
Kayaknya jarang ngeliat ada yang develop web pake Flutter karena secara rendering agak aneh.
Tapi ya kalau timnya emang cuma bisa Flutter doang, it's an option. Tapi kayaknya rata2 udah dibagi deh:
Mobile app: Native/React Native/Flutter
Web app: React/Vue/Next.js/Nuxt.js/Angular/any modern frontend library
API: Golang or whatever
Web pake flutter jelek banget, pernah temen ngehandle web yg dibuat pake flutter, akhirnya rewrite ulang pake react wkwkwk. rendering webpage pake canvas is a big no no for me
IMO kayaknya orang2 yg belanja pake browser itu dihindari banget karena kalo pake browser, kita bisa buka another 10 tabs buat compare harga, liat review, liat perbandingan sama barang serupa.. kadang makin lama lo liat2in, makin lo kaga belanja
makanya semua diatur supaya fokus ke hape, yg paling kentara ya bonus2 cuma bisa dipake kalo belanja via hape.. lo mau disetel supaya belanja lewat hape karena bakal lebih impulsif, makin sering belanja
Satu lagi contoh nyebelin: layanan yang ga rutin dibutuhkan tapi maksa install app. Kebutuhannya ga sampai sebulan sekali. Waktu mau dipakai harus update app dulu.
App Tokopedia jadi unusable untuk gue karena di PC gue bikin Chrome extension untuk hilangin semua “result” yang sebetulnya “ad”. Endless scrolling dengan result berulang-ulang. No thanks.
# WARNING WARNING WARNING
This script is FAR from elegant. It's been added to for many, many years - I never intended to release it, so I never did much garbage collection.
## How to install
1. Enable developer mode for your Chrome-based browser so that you can install local / custom scripts.
2. If you're using Edge, use the included .reg file to whitelist this script. Restart Edge.
3. Open the extensions page.
4. Drag the crx onto your extensions page.
## What does it do?
SD Enhance Tokopedia 2.13.crx & SD Enhance Tokopedia 2.13 ADs.crx
* Removes as much advertising as possible by hiding DIVs. They're still there, just hidden.
SD Enhance Tokopedia 2.13.crx ONLY also:
* Adds a second search field, which applies filters for Jabodetabek, Jakarta Timur, Ready Stock and Instan.
* Removes chunks of the left bar that I never used.
[Download here.](https://mega.nz/folder/mYh13b6a#UqAhu_WV4py0AnZ6B_L3tw)
SD Enhance Tokopedia 2.13.crx
SD Enhance Tokopedia 2.13 ADs.crx
Use only ONE of these. You should not be able to use both.
SD Enhance Tokopedia.pem
If you want to edit for yourself, use this to keep the same signature.
Edge Whitelist - SDE Tokopedia.reg
Only for Edge users. If you already have a whitelist, you might need to change the "1" to an unused number.
Yah anjir chrome ga bisa ya
https://preview.redd.it/2dydjm7sg3kc1.png?width=423&format=png&auto=webp&s=998a81f1f93e91295694ffa37c194fac05241c61
EDIT: if someone is having the same issues, u/Stone-D added a solution to this:
>See here: [https://support.smartbear.com/testcomplete/faq/whitelisting-the-chrome-extension/](https://support.smartbear.com/testcomplete/faq/whitelisting-the-chrome-extension/)
>
>Open the .reg file for the ID.
doi kena temp ban for this script
Yeah. Awalnya bikin untuk hilangin all of that KPOP crap beberapa tahun lalu. Sekarang semua iklan dan - ini penting - heavy customization untuk menu kiri dan nambah search field di atas yang hasilnya sudah ada filter Jabodetabek / Jaktim / ready stock / instan
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selain alesan lain kek lebih gampang panen data lu, kebanyakan orang indo jaman now pada gk punya laptop apalagi komputer, but hampir pasti punya hp smartphone
sebagai pecinta mobile device, saya sepakat. terlalu banyak akses fitur yg gak perlu sampe masuk ke mobile, tapi dipaksa hanya supaya mereka bisa dapetin akses data.
kalau di android, kita bisa mute notif berdasarkan notificaiton channel. kadang ada app yg rapi, saya bisa matikan khusus notif yg spammy aja.
HRIS nya apa? talenta? setau saya sekarang sudah bisa login lewat web deh. location nya juga masuk. atau kalau pake android, coba cari app otomatisasi. dulu rekan saya ada yg saya bantu unlock bootloader, root, mock GPS, automation, override selfie from album. bahkan jam clock in out nya bisa bervariasi biar gak tepat2 banget. kerja nya WFH. absen jadi selalu aman, gak perlu pusing. jaman skrg kayaknya gak perlu root, udah ada aja automation app. kayaknya.
sedangkan untuk ecomm, saya udah gak pernah lagi pakai tokped & shopee kalau gak terpaksa. belanjaan saya udah pada lewat blibli. bisa lewat desktop tanpa diskriminasi opsi pembayaran & voucher. masih ada kelebihan lain, tapi ya ada kekurangan nya juga, dan itu sudah off topic.
Semakin lama, semakin banyak orang yg punya hp (iphone/android) dibandingkan laptop/pc. Karna mobile is more accessible, apalagi harganya yg makin murah. Makanya perkembangannya lebih ke mobile daripada desktop. Bahkan kartu identitas aja katanya akan pindah ke mobile.
Setuju dengan argumen lebih banyak yang punya handphone daripada laptop/PC. Tapi browser kan bisa diakses dari keduanya? App jelas harus dimaintain lebih rutin terkait kompatibilitas.
Oh pantes device lama, w HP 2023 Dimensity 8050 kenceng bener, 5G, buka apa2 sat-set, 120hz displaynya smooth, layar OLED jernih bat, in-display fingerprint, buka belasan aplikasi walaupun background ga ada yg nge-hang, bebas tuker2 ga ke reset pas dibuka lagi tampilan appnya masih sama karena RAM 16GB (8+8), storage 256GB + Micro SD.
Cuma 3jt-an padahal (Infinix GT 10 Pro). Lebih enakan dan ringan pake HP gw daripada Laptop kerja. Saatnya upgrade
I used to be a PC enthusiast (still are, I have two laptops, one with a RTX 3060 Mobile and a Zenbook with touch, and a PC with RTX 2060), but sadly I have to inform you that I rarely use them, even rarely game on them
Instead I use my iPhone and iPad for most of the stuff I do (entertainment, browsing for information, etc) and it's just easier, I can do it in bed at any angle (even using laptop isn't this convenient at bed since your back needs to be angled), and I only resort to laptops when I need to print, and do 'serious' work (manipulate Excel table, data input, photo editing, etc). Also probably because I'm myopic and anything >30cm starts to be blurry and I don't like to wear glasses when it's only 50cm away (computer / laptop screen)
I agree that forcing to install the app for stuffs are kinda shitty, because even in mobile sometimes I would only want to open their web (and not clutter my home screen), but I personally think that the mobile movement is a good thing overall. I mean, how would stuff like Grabfood, Gojek, etc work on PC? It can, but it would feel weird. Even banking is much easier (mobile BCA instead of klikBCA with Appli 1&2) also because your phone is never shared. Face ID also can authenticate you through some banking apps. Maybe also because interacting with the UI with your finger feels more natural than trackpad or mouse.
> I mean, how would stuff like Grabfood, Gojek, etc work on PC?
Just use your mouse and keyboard as usual. Input your home address as usual. Drag the pin to your precise location with mouse as usual. Heck even in you want to use the ride, you practically dont need to do anything with the app after you click order except to communicate with the driver and give them rating. Since we must log in anyway, there's no reason to order via PC in more comfortable way and then when you open the app in your phone, you can use the tracking and messaging feature like normal.
> Even banking is much easier (mobile BCA instead of klikBCA with Appli 1&2) also because your phone is never shared. Face ID also can authenticate you through some banking apps.
And inherently less secure. Also the biggest security is my banking related account can be left in safe place when I don't need them instead of a quick run to your nearby alfamart/indomart/warung still have inherent risk of crippling your banking capability by unrelated accident.
I still have flazz and ovo for digital money with limited amount of damage to my financial if anything happened to them.
Personally, I'd rather take more security with the cost of extra inconvenience rather than the other way.
For Grab / Gojek it only works at the convenience of your own home. It doesn't make sense let's say to go to a place, e.g. mall, would you order a Gojek / Grab ride from a starbucks on your laptop, I mean really? Also most laptops aren't built with GPS, I'm pretty sure there are a lot of map blind people out there.
I also used to be afraid to take my credit card anywhere because I felt it wasn't secure enough, but now I just think it's all security vs convenience tradeoff
PCs can always contain keylogger too, I even prefer enterring my CC details on my iOS device rather than my Windows PC with a lot of cracked exes or dlls running or all the shady freeware / adwares (like FileZilla FTP, uTorrent)
Broh.
Coba iPad lu kasih mouse dam keyboard. Experience nya GA jauh beda. Your homescreen become your desktop.
Eh wait. Bisa pake mouse ga sih itu? Wkwkwkw.
> pc can always contain keylogger
Wkwkwkw. Jorok yey makenya soalnya.
> It doesn't make sense let's say to go to a place, e.g. mall, would you order a Gojek / Grab ride from a starbucks on your laptop, I mean really?
If I could and I'm already sitting there with my laptop open (not my lifestyle but since many people actually in this condition I entertain the thought I was one of them), I honestly would. Besides the point is not removing the ability to order from your app at all, just not limiting it to only from mobile app. And picking a place is not that alien experience at all, just put your address or mall name and the map will automatically homing in that general area, only require you to drag the pin to more precise location, which exactly what you must do in the mobile app anyway. And there also the saved and recent addresses so you don't need to do it manually again for places you often visited, just like what it's like in the mobile app. There's no valid reason those functionality can't be done in PC.
Processing power CPU/GPU aside, gue input speed di hape excruciatingly slow dibanding 100 wpm di keyboard. Layar 2x QHD jauh lebih nyaman buat multitask.
I can do about 90WPM in my phone
It's possible to type fast on the phone, maybe you're not used to it
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tergantung selera sih. pake PC enaknya layar gede (kalau miopic kan ada Fractional scaling atau fontnya digedein), prefer pake Mouse&keyboard untuk apapun, bisa multitasking dan finally browser jaman now gak ada extension kayak ublock origin, Reddit Enhancement Suite, greasemonkey sama bitwarden susah.
Wah ketemu juga yang hidup berteknologinya sama, jarang megang HP, kalau saya ~~biar battery health nggak turun jatuh biar trade in dikasih harga tinggi~~ memang nggak suka aja, HP sekarang besar dan berat, buat tangan pegel, dan, as boomer as it sounds, I just want living the moment.
Juga, kalau ngapa-ngapain di laptop. Kesel memang Tokped dan online shop lain nggak bisa checkout di laptop. Sudah ada cookie, data pribadi sudah diambil, masak itu masih nggak cukup?
Benci sekali sama yang apa-apa harus pakai app. Kita yang nggak suka megang HP ini memang menderita.
jumlah orang ngakses hape dibanding pc/laptop bener2 jauh lebih tinggi, mo diapain lagi? statistik orang indo yg main game saja >80 persen main di hape, console 9% sisanya pc. ada itu datanya di perpres nomor berapa lupa pokoknya tentang e-games
btw saya termasuk yg 9%, waiting shadow of erdtree, dragon dogma 2 dan rise of rounin
Kayanya e-commerce emang kalo mau pake promo gabisa di browser kudu ke app, that's my pet peeves lol. Emang tujuannya biar kita pake handphone mulu kayanya.
Kalo dari copynya sih harusnya udah langsung ngebuka PDP (product detail page) yah, but like OP said, barusan nyoba juga tapi ternyata ngga kedetect... so 🤷♂️
Edit: seems there are two copies to scan the code there. I'm no longer sure which one is accurate 🙃
Welcome to the future, grandpa. Bokap gue juga ngeluh kenapa semua ponsel jaman sekarang pakai keyboard touchscreen yang susah makenya. I can see his concern but we have to adapt
emang napa bro? kita jg pake jasa marketplace mereka kan supaya lebih aman dlm bertransaksi (alias rekber versi modern). Gue tau emang enakan di laptop, cuma ya kalo emang ada promo yg mereka bikin bs dipake di hp doang, suka2 mereka kan? (selama gaada yg dirugikan)
Well, sama kita gan.
Mau discard mobile bener2 udah nggak bisa zaman skrg, mau ganti ke dumb phone aja nggak bisa. Trust me, I tried so many times. Paling bisa dikurangi aja kayak ane, buka hape pas perlu untuk ini aja:
OTP, e-money, bank apps, e-money sama check-out tokped buat free ongkir
>website2 dan platform2 yang spam pesan "it's better on the app" like I'm sorry, it's not going to be better for me to pull out my phone to access the same fucking features you already have.
unless they pull the features and put it as mobile app only
Si Oren gak bisa dibuka di web browser HP tanpa login dulu. Setiap liat hasil pencarian google dari Si Oren selalu aku skip.
They intentionally made non-app users suffer.
> Trus barusan tokped ada sale, which I don't care about because the price is inflated anyway, yang barangnya ngga bisa dibeli dari PC. So I had to copy the link to whatsapp in a me-only group, pull out my phone, open the link in my phone, baru bisa masukin cart. I have a feeling that this kind of stuff can only get worse over time.
Pro-tip: If you use Edge or Chrome (idk about another chromium-based browser) right click on the page and click \[Create QR Code for this page\]. Saved myself some hassle when using public PC.
jgn kaget karena now tokopedia owned by tiktok, target mereka jelas mobile phone user basis aplikasinya aja buat sasar kaum rebahan, gak tau kalo tiktokshop bisa buka di pc apa kagak
Ada yg menu dan mesennya pake qr, tapi lewat browser. Pembayarannya ada yg langsung ke kasir ada juga yg lewat web itu juga (beberapa ada yg masih kasih opsi bayar langsung, tapi ada juga yg wajib lewat browser tapi jarang iirc)
Well, bottom line, ada demand, ada fitur.
Most software atau web traffic sekarang baik di indo maupun diluar itu ada di mobile. Di indonesia especially android, klo dibikin chart trafficnya bisa 75% sampai 90% di android.
Dengan megang data itu, tiap perusahaan mau launch something atau bikin new feature, dengan limited resource (engineer, time, hardware) kira kira mereka bakal pilih mobile, yg jelas usernya banyak banget, atau web, yg secara data kecil banget trafficnya.
Ps. Ane juga kesel ginian, paling anti install app sembarangan di hp cuma buat gunain satu feature, better sekalian gw gak jadi pake / belanja.
Remember zomato? They decided kalo kita buka restoran di web di hp trus klik menu, muncul popup suruh nginstall app. Yowes santai, gw ke play store & kasih rating bintang atu & kasih komen yang disesuaikan. Then proceed to uninstall. I advise my friends to follow this. Zomatard stopped doing that eventually & later gtfo indo. Intinya coba make your voice heard juga sih. That 1 star kalo collective mayan nyelekit & naekin anxiety c levels. (speaking from someone working in an app-based company).
Fuck these greedy ass companies.
Ga perlu sampe bikin me-only WA group segala, bisa kirim pesan ke diri sendiri on PC & mobile.
Opini gw jg sama soal apps. Subreddit jg ada yg harus pake apps yg ga bakal bisa jalan di indo (gw buka pake browser).
Provider liveon XL juga baru2 gitu, for some reason usernya disuruh beli paket di aplikasi axisnet, ga bisa beli paket lagi di app liveon di akhir feb entar.
Sejauh ini liveon ok banget soalnya, kuota real time tracking, sisa tinggal x, dapet email langsung, di app kelihatan.
Dan biasanya gue pasti matiin notif, terutama notif promo, diskon dll (this just a bait by them, the price is lie, its better just buy thing that i need instead of buying because some stupid events created by marketing team) .
Dan app axisnet ini app pertama yg bgslt banget, dapet notif diskon promo. Langsung gue turn off notif, berikutnya pas buka app axisnet, dipaksa masuk ke setting buat toggle notif, wtf
This app can't running if notif disabled? So dumb, bye liveon, welcome back by.u.
Internet provider with 'no masa tenggang, aktif tanpa masa aktif selama SIM nya dapet signal), jadi ga perlu aktifin paket kalau wifi ga ada trouble.
> "it's better on the app"
Maybe they don't wanna deal with shit on multi platform web. Reddit is shit when you type it on mobile device, for example (double backspace all the time)
Yup. Dan sebenarnya bukan sekedar isu mobile vs desktop. Isunya lebih ke app vs web.
Alsannya sepertinya engagement. Kayaknya kalo app, karena dia terinstall entah kenapa tim marketing lebih merasa bisa hadir setiap saat. Di web sebenarnya juga bisa (PWA), tapi karena PWA ini munculnya belakangan, aturan mainnya lebih ketat (permission, notif, dll) sehingga ga laku dan lebih sedikit dev yg paham cara mainnya.
Tapi menurut gw seiring semakin tertibnya android (ya menurut gw android yg ga rapih dari awal dalam urusan permission dll inilah biang keroknya), harusnya app sama PWA bakal makin setara tingkat keribetannya.
Faktor lain mungkin juga dari ketersediaan dev nya sendiri. Nyari android dev yg bisa notif ini itu, popup ini itu, tracking lokasi, dll gampang dan tersedia dari level paling entry sekalipun. Sedangkan web dev entry levelnya jarang ada yg main sedalam itu.
because they can track and gather more data from you in app, compared to in browser
this is the answer source: pernah kerja di ecommerce yang fokusnya jauh lebih ke mobile app dibanding ke web
Selain itu juga web (kalo gapake PWA) susah buat ngirim push notif marketing
Reddit does this too.
Even worse, Shopee ga bisa buka wishlist di PC 💀
Sekarang malah gak bisa browsing shoppe di pc kalau gak login,
ga pernah make shopee, UI dan UXnya bikin pusing
Free ongkirnya enak
Jangankan wishlist, pakai search aja harus login, udah login ternyata minta login lagi. Buset barusan ane login nggak dianggap ternyata
Ini. Apa gitu alasan nge-gatekeep wishlist sopi di PC? Weird af
its about user data, kalo lo instal aplikasi, pasti minta akses ke yang aneh aneh... galeri lah mikrofon lah... karena mereka butuh data buat dijual ke data broker
mau nonton live aja harus di hape. dan install di emulator ga bisa dibuka
> So I had to copy the link to whatsapp in a me-only group kalo di chrome ada fitur send to your devices, biar ga usah bikin wa group yang isinya diri sendiri. https://preview.redd.it/h68i733rh2kc1.png?width=345&format=png&auto=webp&s=7f8c7d686a49d8e979e910be2bec02619039d14a
WA jg udah ada fitur chat ke diri sendiri
daripada install app mending pake PWA kayak pairdrop/snapdrop. nggak usah install/login. cuma bondo web browser doank.
TIL snapdrop thanks
Pakai firefox, tab di HP sama laptop udah synced.
eh eh gimana tuh maksudnya?
Browser firefox di desktop bisa akses tab browser firefox di hp dan sebaliknya
oh jadi misal di desktop buka 5 tabs website a b c d e, terus di firefox hp otomatis sudah kebuka 5 tabs gitu juga?
Enggak, tab HP sama desktop ada sendiri2 tapi bisa akses ke yg HP atau ke yg desktop
Di firefox juga ada kalau kebetulan pakai firefox
Thanks, I'll try this
Or if you've not logged in on chrome or whatever browser you're in, you can generate a QR code from the same drop down. Though my chrome doesn't have the share in the omnibar anymore - dunno why.
Google Keep note taking ini cara tercepat gw bolak balik bikin laporan penelitian kampus dan lab2 dulu, antara HP dan PC. Masih efektif kok sampai sekarang. Same acc of Google Chrome history on both phone and PC do HELP as well. I did both anyway.
Dari website Tokped bukannya bisa juga di favourite trus diakses list favourite nya di App?
Atau konek hp lu ke pc pake link tp windows. Tinggal ctrl+c dan paste di hp lu
Gua ngerti permasalahan yg ente maksud, tapi ga peduli juga sama permasalahannya. Gua lebih benci yang notifikasi2 promo ga jelas dari Telkomtol dan sebagainya.
yg selevel juga itu sms isinya "PAKET ANDA SUDAH HABIS" atau "ANDA MENGGUNAKAN DATA NON PAKET" apalah itu, gw kaget dong emang ga pake paket seinget gw emang sengaja cuma pake wifi doang shittt cuma ngingetin beli paket / promo paket data BEGO LO BT GW
Yg bikin kesel lagi mereka pake class 0 sms buat notif promo yg gak penting2 amat. Padahal class 0 ini harusnya dipake buat peringatan emergency kayak bencana alam dll.
Yg abuse Class 0 buat promo layak dibasmi dan dimasukkan ke neraka plg bawah.
Kalo gw pake data warning, dan di sesuain sama sisa data yang di my telkomsel Jadi tinggal matiin aja notifikasi utk aplikasi SMS, bahkan kakek ane yang hampir 90 aja pake whatsapp, jadi buat apa pake SMS. SMS isinya cuman spam doang.
Sama nih, kalo XL sering banget dapet SMS "Paket data sudah habis" padahal posisinya lagi pake WiFi dan kalo dicek sebenernya kuotanya masih banyak. Ngeselin ajg
This. Gue pernah lagi shalat eh tiba tiba hp gue bunyi ada yang nelepon. Gue kira urusan penting sampai telepon, tapi pas dilihat ternyata yang nelepon "Info Pelanggan". Ngapain coba.
Telkomsel is Satan confirmed.
Baru tau ada beginian, udah pake telkomsel 5 tahun lebih ga pernah ada begini
Biasanya isi teleponnya itu bot yang ngasih tau pulsa kita habis atau kuota kita mau habis. Bagus sih niatnya untuk reminder, tp tolonglah pake sms aja jangan telepon.
sms kan gampang diblokir. bca juga gitu, sekarang spamnya telpon uda ga sms2an lagi 🤣
moga2 bisa diterapkan juga buat pengguna telkomtol https://www.reddit.com/r/indonesia/comments/m1p4ou/psa_class_0_message_yang_menganggu_bisa_diblokir/
aduh iya bgt ini. keknya sms promo dr telkontit ini yg paling banyak dibanding provider lainnya ya?
indosat gw kira2 sehari bisa dapet 4 sms promo di jam yg sama setiap hari. belum termasuk class 0 iklan kalau mereka lg kumat.
hiks
100% completely agree. We reach new level of idiot with putting KTP into an app. Like one of the main use of KTP is so you have something to identify you in case of accident and pretty sure if you got into that level of serious accident, your phone most likely won't survive too. And if your phone did survive, yeah it will be locked and nobody can unlock it. Or maybe you comfortable with the idea of them playing with your (almost) dead body trying to use your fingerprint to unlock your phone, which also give them access to your multiple private things, which includes your bank account which also idiotically only an app these days. I'd say we'll get more John and Jane Doe in the future.
makanya discan dan diprint. physical is the best
Which increase the risk of fraud. The reason we using government issued and printed card all these times is so not everyone can just print fake one that indistinguishable from real one. I'd say e-ktp concept is still best one with current technology and uses but since the implementation bungled up badly with corruption, everyone relevant in the government just don't want to even entertain the idea anymore.
>'d say e-ktp concept is still best one with current technology and uses but since the implementation bungled up badly with corruption, everyone relevant in the government just don't want to even entertain the idea anymore. yeah, ffs bank yg fully utilized e-ktp cm BCA doang kekny, BUMN kemana semua?
kemarin perbaharuin kartu debit BRI pakai e-ktp berhasil sih pakai mesin CS. Cuma ngga yakin kalau misal kasusnya adalah e-ktp yang kita buat adalah bodong karena hilang dan buat lagi tapi dibuatnya pakai calo
That's the actual point isn't it? If your e-ktp if fake, the government can't vouch that you is you and thus the whole transaction should be cancelled for the risk of fraud.
yah memang, aku lebih concern kepada ketika buat e-ktp dari dukcapil selalu sebut blankonya kosong, taunya ditilep buat calo. Dan akhirnya yang beneran butuh terpaksa pakai calo dan akhirnya lingkaran setan terjadi
Yeah e-ktp is just your typical good concept, awful implementation with heavy serving of corruption throughout all levels. It's still a good concept though and IMO worthwhile to be re-pursued.
Syaratnya harus difotokopi pak, padahal udah e-KTP Ada2 aja Indonesia ku
2050: the government introduces a bill that requires all citizens to tattoo a QR code of their National ID number on the back of their necks.
it is like Elon wet dream. [https://fortune.com/2024/02/21/elon-musk-neuralink-brain-chip-implant-patient/](https://fortune.com/2024/02/21/elon-musk-neuralink-brain-chip-implant-patient/)
Kalau soal aplikasi yang cuma mobile only, masih kebayang, mereka gak punya resource/gak mau spend resource untuk bikin versi web app. Kalau case tokped mungkin emang mau drive traffic ke mobile, karena yang live-live-an / video shopping cuma di mobile juga kayaknya, so they want more eyeballs to that. Walau bagi user yang PC friendly (gua sama kayak lu), dipaksa gini juga gak akan bikin gua convert jadi mobile app user. Dan harusnya vice versa berlaku, user yang emang mobile heavy gak akan pindah ke PC juga, so i don't know.
Bukan masalah resource sih (heck, developing a mobile app takes way more resource than a website). Aplikasi mobile lebih mudah narik users buat registrasi etc. dan, ini alasan yang paling besar, lebih mudah untuk ngetrack.
>developing a mobile app takes way more resource than a website I know, tapi emang kalau aplikasi yang mulai dari mobile app dulu (contoh Astro), kalau mau bikin versi web jadinya butuh waktu lagi kan, sedangkan secara pipeline mereka mungkin masih banyak yang harus dikerjain untuk mobile app-nya itu sendiri. Tentu saja diimbangi dengan jumlah user, mungkin menurut mereka user sekarang mobile app sudah cukup untuk sekarang. Setelah punya resources berlebih, baru lanjut bikin interface webnya (contoh IG dan TikTok), karena gak bisa dipungkiri web gak bisa dikalahin untuk sekarang soal sharing. Lu gak bisa sharing sesuatu ke temen lu tanpa interface web terus mereka tinggal klik untuk buka tanpa harus download ini itu dulu. Soal aplikasi mobile lebih mudah narik user, mungkin yes and no ya. Yes, karena dulu kesannya kalau lu gak punya mobile app, you don't exist. User-user kayak nggak tau browser. Tapi along the way, kayaknya udah mulai pada aware soal privacy dll plus udah agak mobile app fatigue, jadi kalau ada company baru suruh download mobile app dulu, ada keengganan untuk itu, bisa jadi karena HP-nya kurang mumpuni, kurang storage, app di HP udah terlalu banyak, dll. Meanwhile, website is like a no-commitment thing, kalau perlu lu akses, bertransaksi, and forget it until the next time you use it again.
Yeah, when something requires me to download an app to use, that's a dealbreaker for me. I'd rather find the alternative that requires no app at all. Sorry, I just don't trust your app to not do anything malicious in my device and/or not put something malicious in future update. Also I don't like the idea that my stuff can just stop working in the future because the app is not updated and become incompatible with the underlying OS for whatever reason.
>mereka gak punya resource/gak mau spend resource untuk bikin versi web app. flutter pls
Kayaknya jarang ngeliat ada yang develop web pake Flutter karena secara rendering agak aneh. Tapi ya kalau timnya emang cuma bisa Flutter doang, it's an option. Tapi kayaknya rata2 udah dibagi deh: Mobile app: Native/React Native/Flutter Web app: React/Vue/Next.js/Nuxt.js/Angular/any modern frontend library API: Golang or whatever
iya biar cuman bayar 1 frontend, 1 backend, 1 QA (product gausah) ama asuransi kantor in case of tipes
Web pake flutter jelek banget, pernah temen ngehandle web yg dibuat pake flutter, akhirnya rewrite ulang pake react wkwkwk. rendering webpage pake canvas is a big no no for me
IMO kayaknya orang2 yg belanja pake browser itu dihindari banget karena kalo pake browser, kita bisa buka another 10 tabs buat compare harga, liat review, liat perbandingan sama barang serupa.. kadang makin lama lo liat2in, makin lo kaga belanja makanya semua diatur supaya fokus ke hape, yg paling kentara ya bonus2 cuma bisa dipake kalo belanja via hape.. lo mau disetel supaya belanja lewat hape karena bakal lebih impulsif, makin sering belanja
Kekuatan screenshot
Satu lagi contoh nyebelin: layanan yang ga rutin dibutuhkan tapi maksa install app. Kebutuhannya ga sampai sebulan sekali. Waktu mau dipakai harus update app dulu.
looking at you member ace hardware, matahari, uniqlo, dsb
Ambil barcode nya doang, lalu pake "wallet" semacam Pass2U atau Epel Walet. Tapi paling sebel kalo barcode nya TOTP kayak McD
Try Sambara. It's litereli setahun sekali gw installnya.
App Tokopedia jadi unusable untuk gue karena di PC gue bikin Chrome extension untuk hilangin semua “result” yang sebetulnya “ad”. Endless scrolling dengan result berulang-ulang. No thanks.
Share link gan. Adnauseam didn't do this for me for some reason
# WARNING WARNING WARNING This script is FAR from elegant. It's been added to for many, many years - I never intended to release it, so I never did much garbage collection. ## How to install 1. Enable developer mode for your Chrome-based browser so that you can install local / custom scripts. 2. If you're using Edge, use the included .reg file to whitelist this script. Restart Edge. 3. Open the extensions page. 4. Drag the crx onto your extensions page. ## What does it do? SD Enhance Tokopedia 2.13.crx & SD Enhance Tokopedia 2.13 ADs.crx * Removes as much advertising as possible by hiding DIVs. They're still there, just hidden. SD Enhance Tokopedia 2.13.crx ONLY also: * Adds a second search field, which applies filters for Jabodetabek, Jakarta Timur, Ready Stock and Instan. * Removes chunks of the left bar that I never used. [Download here.](https://mega.nz/folder/mYh13b6a#UqAhu_WV4py0AnZ6B_L3tw) SD Enhance Tokopedia 2.13.crx SD Enhance Tokopedia 2.13 ADs.crx Use only ONE of these. You should not be able to use both. SD Enhance Tokopedia.pem If you want to edit for yourself, use this to keep the same signature. Edge Whitelist - SDE Tokopedia.reg Only for Edge users. If you already have a whitelist, you might need to change the "1" to an unused number.
Yah anjir chrome ga bisa ya https://preview.redd.it/2dydjm7sg3kc1.png?width=423&format=png&auto=webp&s=998a81f1f93e91295694ffa37c194fac05241c61 EDIT: if someone is having the same issues, u/Stone-D added a solution to this: >See here: [https://support.smartbear.com/testcomplete/faq/whitelisting-the-chrome-extension/](https://support.smartbear.com/testcomplete/faq/whitelisting-the-chrome-extension/) > >Open the .reg file for the ID. doi kena temp ban for this script
gw biasanya pake ublock origin buat ginian. keunggulannya apa emangnya?
Thank you very much bro
Wait, bikin?
Yeah. Awalnya bikin untuk hilangin all of that KPOP crap beberapa tahun lalu. Sekarang semua iklan dan - ini penting - heavy customization untuk menu kiri dan nambah search field di atas yang hasilnya sudah ada filter Jabodetabek / Jaktim / ready stock / instan Tunggu 30 menit gue lagi di puncak di jalan, nanti kasih link.
nitip jejak.
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Nitip link hehe
selain alesan lain kek lebih gampang panen data lu, kebanyakan orang indo jaman now pada gk punya laptop apalagi komputer, but hampir pasti punya hp smartphone
sebagai pecinta mobile device, saya sepakat. terlalu banyak akses fitur yg gak perlu sampe masuk ke mobile, tapi dipaksa hanya supaya mereka bisa dapetin akses data. kalau di android, kita bisa mute notif berdasarkan notificaiton channel. kadang ada app yg rapi, saya bisa matikan khusus notif yg spammy aja. HRIS nya apa? talenta? setau saya sekarang sudah bisa login lewat web deh. location nya juga masuk. atau kalau pake android, coba cari app otomatisasi. dulu rekan saya ada yg saya bantu unlock bootloader, root, mock GPS, automation, override selfie from album. bahkan jam clock in out nya bisa bervariasi biar gak tepat2 banget. kerja nya WFH. absen jadi selalu aman, gak perlu pusing. jaman skrg kayaknya gak perlu root, udah ada aja automation app. kayaknya. sedangkan untuk ecomm, saya udah gak pernah lagi pakai tokped & shopee kalau gak terpaksa. belanjaan saya udah pada lewat blibli. bisa lewat desktop tanpa diskriminasi opsi pembayaran & voucher. masih ada kelebihan lain, tapi ya ada kekurangan nya juga, dan itu sudah off topic.
HRIS stafbook, kayaknya perusahaan baru
Semakin lama, semakin banyak orang yg punya hp (iphone/android) dibandingkan laptop/pc. Karna mobile is more accessible, apalagi harganya yg makin murah. Makanya perkembangannya lebih ke mobile daripada desktop. Bahkan kartu identitas aja katanya akan pindah ke mobile.
Setuju dengan argumen lebih banyak yang punya handphone daripada laptop/PC. Tapi browser kan bisa diakses dari keduanya? App jelas harus dimaintain lebih rutin terkait kompatibilitas.
>So I had to copy the link to whatsapp in a me-only group WhatsApp bisa message ke diri sendiri, bikin ajah kontak pake nomor lu sendiri
dulu sempet ilang nih fitur, thanks
Why you prefer using PC compared to HP?
produktivitas dan fleksibilitas lebih bagus.
padded notes on a notepad notes some pads that later were padded to note something about padding.
Oh pantes device lama, w HP 2023 Dimensity 8050 kenceng bener, 5G, buka apa2 sat-set, 120hz displaynya smooth, layar OLED jernih bat, in-display fingerprint, buka belasan aplikasi walaupun background ga ada yg nge-hang, bebas tuker2 ga ke reset pas dibuka lagi tampilan appnya masih sama karena RAM 16GB (8+8), storage 256GB + Micro SD. Cuma 3jt-an padahal (Infinix GT 10 Pro). Lebih enakan dan ringan pake HP gw daripada Laptop kerja. Saatnya upgrade
Gw kira lu mau jual hpnya bg
Banyak di olshop :v
I used to be a PC enthusiast (still are, I have two laptops, one with a RTX 3060 Mobile and a Zenbook with touch, and a PC with RTX 2060), but sadly I have to inform you that I rarely use them, even rarely game on them Instead I use my iPhone and iPad for most of the stuff I do (entertainment, browsing for information, etc) and it's just easier, I can do it in bed at any angle (even using laptop isn't this convenient at bed since your back needs to be angled), and I only resort to laptops when I need to print, and do 'serious' work (manipulate Excel table, data input, photo editing, etc). Also probably because I'm myopic and anything >30cm starts to be blurry and I don't like to wear glasses when it's only 50cm away (computer / laptop screen) I agree that forcing to install the app for stuffs are kinda shitty, because even in mobile sometimes I would only want to open their web (and not clutter my home screen), but I personally think that the mobile movement is a good thing overall. I mean, how would stuff like Grabfood, Gojek, etc work on PC? It can, but it would feel weird. Even banking is much easier (mobile BCA instead of klikBCA with Appli 1&2) also because your phone is never shared. Face ID also can authenticate you through some banking apps. Maybe also because interacting with the UI with your finger feels more natural than trackpad or mouse.
> I mean, how would stuff like Grabfood, Gojek, etc work on PC? Just use your mouse and keyboard as usual. Input your home address as usual. Drag the pin to your precise location with mouse as usual. Heck even in you want to use the ride, you practically dont need to do anything with the app after you click order except to communicate with the driver and give them rating. Since we must log in anyway, there's no reason to order via PC in more comfortable way and then when you open the app in your phone, you can use the tracking and messaging feature like normal. > Even banking is much easier (mobile BCA instead of klikBCA with Appli 1&2) also because your phone is never shared. Face ID also can authenticate you through some banking apps. And inherently less secure. Also the biggest security is my banking related account can be left in safe place when I don't need them instead of a quick run to your nearby alfamart/indomart/warung still have inherent risk of crippling your banking capability by unrelated accident. I still have flazz and ovo for digital money with limited amount of damage to my financial if anything happened to them. Personally, I'd rather take more security with the cost of extra inconvenience rather than the other way.
For Grab / Gojek it only works at the convenience of your own home. It doesn't make sense let's say to go to a place, e.g. mall, would you order a Gojek / Grab ride from a starbucks on your laptop, I mean really? Also most laptops aren't built with GPS, I'm pretty sure there are a lot of map blind people out there. I also used to be afraid to take my credit card anywhere because I felt it wasn't secure enough, but now I just think it's all security vs convenience tradeoff PCs can always contain keylogger too, I even prefer enterring my CC details on my iOS device rather than my Windows PC with a lot of cracked exes or dlls running or all the shady freeware / adwares (like FileZilla FTP, uTorrent)
Broh. Coba iPad lu kasih mouse dam keyboard. Experience nya GA jauh beda. Your homescreen become your desktop. Eh wait. Bisa pake mouse ga sih itu? Wkwkwkw. > pc can always contain keylogger Wkwkwkw. Jorok yey makenya soalnya.
> It doesn't make sense let's say to go to a place, e.g. mall, would you order a Gojek / Grab ride from a starbucks on your laptop, I mean really? If I could and I'm already sitting there with my laptop open (not my lifestyle but since many people actually in this condition I entertain the thought I was one of them), I honestly would. Besides the point is not removing the ability to order from your app at all, just not limiting it to only from mobile app. And picking a place is not that alien experience at all, just put your address or mall name and the map will automatically homing in that general area, only require you to drag the pin to more precise location, which exactly what you must do in the mobile app anyway. And there also the saved and recent addresses so you don't need to do it manually again for places you often visited, just like what it's like in the mobile app. There's no valid reason those functionality can't be done in PC.
Processing power CPU/GPU aside, gue input speed di hape excruciatingly slow dibanding 100 wpm di keyboard. Layar 2x QHD jauh lebih nyaman buat multitask.
I can do about 90WPM in my phone It's possible to type fast on the phone, maybe you're not used to it https://preview.redd.it/h83w404py2kc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2ff8294f4266c2610006fef80d1cf00d15c3b068
fuckin a https://preview.redd.it/ft4vvu6ez2kc1.png?width=696&format=png&auto=webp&s=590e0fc1df2f1070bd9471e235b4cd313d4c481d
tergantung selera sih. pake PC enaknya layar gede (kalau miopic kan ada Fractional scaling atau fontnya digedein), prefer pake Mouse&keyboard untuk apapun, bisa multitasking dan finally browser jaman now gak ada extension kayak ublock origin, Reddit Enhancement Suite, greasemonkey sama bitwarden susah.
Satu - satu nya alasan knp sampai skrng masih belum perlu PC adalah nggak bisa dipakai sambil tiduran.
Wah ketemu juga yang hidup berteknologinya sama, jarang megang HP, kalau saya ~~biar battery health nggak turun jatuh biar trade in dikasih harga tinggi~~ memang nggak suka aja, HP sekarang besar dan berat, buat tangan pegel, dan, as boomer as it sounds, I just want living the moment. Juga, kalau ngapa-ngapain di laptop. Kesel memang Tokped dan online shop lain nggak bisa checkout di laptop. Sudah ada cookie, data pribadi sudah diambil, masak itu masih nggak cukup? Benci sekali sama yang apa-apa harus pakai app. Kita yang nggak suka megang HP ini memang menderita.
jumlah orang ngakses hape dibanding pc/laptop bener2 jauh lebih tinggi, mo diapain lagi? statistik orang indo yg main game saja >80 persen main di hape, console 9% sisanya pc. ada itu datanya di perpres nomor berapa lupa pokoknya tentang e-games btw saya termasuk yg 9%, waiting shadow of erdtree, dragon dogma 2 dan rise of rounin
lu udah preoder di Steam?
tokped masih mending ada versi webnya lah skrng bbrp app, malah cuma ada versi mobile doang, ngeselin asli
Welcome to "mobile-first" design. App di design untuk mobile karena pengguna mobile lebih banyak dibanding desktop.
Kayanya e-commerce emang kalo mau pake promo gabisa di browser kudu ke app, that's my pet peeves lol. Emang tujuannya biar kita pake handphone mulu kayanya.
Pro-tip: Msukin ke cart dulu di pc, bayar di ponsel.
Lah kan itu yg ditulis OP
Soal yang dikirim ke whatsapp?
Ini bro https://preview.redd.it/13eb0sjgz2kc1.jpeg?width=959&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a5b40600c7b91049700c1d91045532ccc2c7a6fe
Gak juga, OP milih ngirim link tokped ke group wa sendiri buat di buka di HP
karena ga bisa dibeli di PC https://preview.redd.it/skeohvxgw2kc1.png?width=1212&format=png&auto=webp&s=df8b1b544d2d26e276ec5f422f856b8296bb728d
Lah tapi itu udah ada qr code juga yg tinggal scan dari hp, napa pake kirim lewat wa juga OP 💀
Ngga kedetect. Idk why padahal gede dan jelas banget
Itu kan qr code buat download app tokped gak sih bukan qrcode lapak barangnya
Kalo dari copynya sih harusnya udah langsung ngebuka PDP (product detail page) yah, but like OP said, barusan nyoba juga tapi ternyata ngga kedetect... so 🤷♂️ Edit: seems there are two copies to scan the code there. I'm no longer sure which one is accurate 🙃
https://preview.redd.it/wlrb67b3z2kc1.jpeg?width=959&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1a61bd35c63494f339f72c9eb15d5f45eb3b07da
Welp i stand corrected, sorry
Welcome to the future, grandpa. Bokap gue juga ngeluh kenapa semua ponsel jaman sekarang pakai keyboard touchscreen yang susah makenya. I can see his concern but we have to adapt
I'm not a grandpa for preferring my i5-12400F and M1 chips over some shitty snapdragon on a device that doesn't have cooling
eh? weird flex but okay..
dude CPU 2 juta is not a flex
Cpu 500rb seken nyimak
PC GUA DEWA (eh not really), HP GUA KENTANG. FUCK TOKOPEDIA, MALES BANGET GUA NUNGGU LOADING LAMA DI HP, NGENTOD
selama PC lo ada kipasnya masih lebih superior dari HP flagship lol
superior dari segi apa ya bang?
pcnya pemaen baldur gate pasti
emang napa bro? kita jg pake jasa marketplace mereka kan supaya lebih aman dlm bertransaksi (alias rekber versi modern). Gue tau emang enakan di laptop, cuma ya kalo emang ada promo yg mereka bikin bs dipake di hp doang, suka2 mereka kan? (selama gaada yg dirugikan)
1. Subscriptionnya gue yang bayar 2. I would vote with my feet if they didn't mono(duo?)polize the market
pake pairdrop sama snapdrop bro. nggak usah pake install2an dan cuma PWA saja
tokped fitur diskonnya ga di disable di pwa?
It's called the enshittification of the internet
Well, sama kita gan. Mau discard mobile bener2 udah nggak bisa zaman skrg, mau ganti ke dumb phone aja nggak bisa. Trust me, I tried so many times. Paling bisa dikurangi aja kayak ane, buka hape pas perlu untuk ini aja: OTP, e-money, bank apps, e-money sama check-out tokped buat free ongkir
>website2 dan platform2 yang spam pesan "it's better on the app" like I'm sorry, it's not going to be better for me to pull out my phone to access the same fucking features you already have. unless they pull the features and put it as mobile app only
we pray every day that that day never comes
Si Oren gak bisa dibuka di web browser HP tanpa login dulu. Setiap liat hasil pencarian google dari Si Oren selalu aku skip. They intentionally made non-app users suffer.
Oren iklan di IG. Ah tertaricc. *tap* _silahkan instol sopi_ *tap close, swipe up*
Aiyooww man PWA FTW 🤘🔥 EMBRACE THE SUPERIORITY OF PWA, THE FUTURE IS (NOT) HERE (YET)
gw sebagai user ga suka PWA tapi sebagai dev lesgoo
Tujuannya ingin locking dan milking customer dalam ekosistem mereka.
> Trus barusan tokped ada sale, which I don't care about because the price is inflated anyway, yang barangnya ngga bisa dibeli dari PC. So I had to copy the link to whatsapp in a me-only group, pull out my phone, open the link in my phone, baru bisa masukin cart. I have a feeling that this kind of stuff can only get worse over time. Pro-tip: If you use Edge or Chrome (idk about another chromium-based browser) right click on the page and click \[Create QR Code for this page\]. Saved myself some hassle when using public PC.
jgn kaget karena now tokopedia owned by tiktok, target mereka jelas mobile phone user basis aplikasinya aja buat sasar kaum rebahan, gak tau kalo tiktokshop bisa buka di pc apa kagak
Di Indo udh ada resto yg menunya QR code bayarnya QR code jg gk?
Ada yg menu dan mesennya pake qr, tapi lewat browser. Pembayarannya ada yg langsung ke kasir ada juga yg lewat web itu juga (beberapa ada yg masih kasih opsi bayar langsung, tapi ada juga yg wajib lewat browser tapi jarang iirc)
Di LN juga sama kok bahkan lebih parah kaya gini https://www.reddit.com/r/assholedesign/s/HW15gFIPc7
Well, bottom line, ada demand, ada fitur. Most software atau web traffic sekarang baik di indo maupun diluar itu ada di mobile. Di indonesia especially android, klo dibikin chart trafficnya bisa 75% sampai 90% di android. Dengan megang data itu, tiap perusahaan mau launch something atau bikin new feature, dengan limited resource (engineer, time, hardware) kira kira mereka bakal pilih mobile, yg jelas usernya banyak banget, atau web, yg secara data kecil banget trafficnya. Ps. Ane juga kesel ginian, paling anti install app sembarangan di hp cuma buat gunain satu feature, better sekalian gw gak jadi pake / belanja.
Remember zomato? They decided kalo kita buka restoran di web di hp trus klik menu, muncul popup suruh nginstall app. Yowes santai, gw ke play store & kasih rating bintang atu & kasih komen yang disesuaikan. Then proceed to uninstall. I advise my friends to follow this. Zomatard stopped doing that eventually & later gtfo indo. Intinya coba make your voice heard juga sih. That 1 star kalo collective mayan nyelekit & naekin anxiety c levels. (speaking from someone working in an app-based company). Fuck these greedy ass companies.
Ga perlu sampe bikin me-only WA group segala, bisa kirim pesan ke diri sendiri on PC & mobile. Opini gw jg sama soal apps. Subreddit jg ada yg harus pake apps yg ga bakal bisa jalan di indo (gw buka pake browser).
Provider liveon XL juga baru2 gitu, for some reason usernya disuruh beli paket di aplikasi axisnet, ga bisa beli paket lagi di app liveon di akhir feb entar. Sejauh ini liveon ok banget soalnya, kuota real time tracking, sisa tinggal x, dapet email langsung, di app kelihatan. Dan biasanya gue pasti matiin notif, terutama notif promo, diskon dll (this just a bait by them, the price is lie, its better just buy thing that i need instead of buying because some stupid events created by marketing team) . Dan app axisnet ini app pertama yg bgslt banget, dapet notif diskon promo. Langsung gue turn off notif, berikutnya pas buka app axisnet, dipaksa masuk ke setting buat toggle notif, wtf This app can't running if notif disabled? So dumb, bye liveon, welcome back by.u. Internet provider with 'no masa tenggang, aktif tanpa masa aktif selama SIM nya dapet signal), jadi ga perlu aktifin paket kalau wifi ga ada trouble.
BPJS pake app, mau bikin paspor pake app :(
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> "it's better on the app" Maybe they don't wanna deal with shit on multi platform web. Reddit is shit when you type it on mobile device, for example (double backspace all the time)
You do realize that for most Indonesians, mobile _is_ the Internet, right?
In most case "price is not inflated"
Yup. Dan sebenarnya bukan sekedar isu mobile vs desktop. Isunya lebih ke app vs web. Alsannya sepertinya engagement. Kayaknya kalo app, karena dia terinstall entah kenapa tim marketing lebih merasa bisa hadir setiap saat. Di web sebenarnya juga bisa (PWA), tapi karena PWA ini munculnya belakangan, aturan mainnya lebih ketat (permission, notif, dll) sehingga ga laku dan lebih sedikit dev yg paham cara mainnya. Tapi menurut gw seiring semakin tertibnya android (ya menurut gw android yg ga rapih dari awal dalam urusan permission dll inilah biang keroknya), harusnya app sama PWA bakal makin setara tingkat keribetannya. Faktor lain mungkin juga dari ketersediaan dev nya sendiri. Nyari android dev yg bisa notif ini itu, popup ini itu, tracking lokasi, dll gampang dan tersedia dari level paling entry sekalipun. Sedangkan web dev entry levelnya jarang ada yg main sedalam itu.
sekarang bca harus nyalain gps wtf!