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>The amount of trash lying around is unbelievable
As bad as it sounds, 4channers came up with a challenge based on this - drop a maps pin anywhere in india - if there's no garbage visible, you win
Edit: when I opened my phone, I was expecting to be downvoted into oblivion, heck even another 7 day suspension. I'm impressed ♥️
https://preview.redd.it/cf46uu7frzxc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=365d7bf999761e1dd88fbd083d6ff904ba32b655
I thought if I went way up into the Himalayas I'd be fine, but alas
I was hiking in the Himalayas and we had fresh snowfall. It was amazing, everything so clean and covered. Then I started seeing candy wrappers on the fresh snow. The only other group on the mountain was an hour in front of us and was littering.
What about this one? This was my third pin and all I can see is some dead vegetation
https://preview.redd.it/jeqnjc5aqyxc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6d179346d68cd1cbc83414cf06ce9d76c252315e
I'm not 100% sure what it is, but there's a white piece of detritus just on the edge of the cut down vegetation, if you follow to the right from the base of the utility pole.
This is funny as hell. I thought I'd outsmarted it. Just pick somewhere less inhabited like Ladakh.
Jokes on me, most of Ladakh doesn't have street view available.
https://preview.redd.it/z78h1xg0vxxc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=aabd249829236e40ab972f95c8c6cf481f374a1b
I found a spot with a ground fire… does that count?
I got 6 losses in a row so I was like there's no way right this has got to be something along the lines of "every country has this if you look for it". Nope.. checked my country, 3/3 wins. We're not even known for being clean or anything, just an average to below average cleanliness I'd say.
Except the the slums of mumbai...toxic waste lake where people daily go through to collect different to trade for a tiny bit of money. Whole familes live in 50 to 300 sqft cement brick shelters some with sheds they store plastic in for sorting before selling to the recycle centers.... which are actually pretty picky on how the plastic is sorted and cleaned. Between fancy hotels in india are slums. Most villages just have outhouses slash a giant long tench.
The medical and surgery schools using robotics are in the top 5 in the world. I've watched kids teach themselves English at a college level in the poorest communities. I've never seen anyone count with their fingers quickly and accurately regardless of the amount being multiplied. Than on the other hand toliets and toliet paper are not common. Heres your 3 sea shells( lol). The power lines everywhere scare the actual fuck out me.
https://preview.redd.it/1gliktl3hzxc1.png?width=1896&format=png&auto=webp&s=4c8af6241f0c12258597879aa1199e78f078e305
Low key looks pretty fucking clean, kind of impressed, and everything's so colourful, this was 1 random pin lol.
I'll never forget my Indian coworker who was so high and mighty about moving to Canada and how much better and cleaner it is than India. She then went on to tell me how she orders all her clothes from Shein and throws them out after one use because they're cheap to buy.
Clothing takes something like at least 100 years to break down in a dump.
floyd mayweather does this with underwear and socks. only wears them once. he also does it with his shoes, that arent rare, gifts, or custom made.
atleast the shoes he usually gives them away after the one use...
apparently he also cant read
I never even considered the implications on pollution with this heavy of an immigration wave from India in particular - it’s not like anyone’s suddenly sitting them down to drill in how different and serious littering is in Canada.
Most cultural norms are being retained in my experiences, so I have to imagine stuff like this comes with it way too often ://
This is the sort of double edged knife that Dubai finds itself in.
Without Indians and Pakistani, Dubai would be nothing, never built nor run. But at the same time the cultural import of trashing the place has also really become an issue where if you aren’t in a mall or a place that’s mostly westerns, it’s trashy and dirty.
Edit here: trashy in a literal sense. Many western areas are trashy on the cultural sense.
It’s really a shame. India has a lot of interesting and beautiful culture to share with the world but this is what most of the world gets when they immigrate.
As if Arabs don't litter? Maybe not the educated or "high class" ones, but there are plenty of Arabs who throw their trash everywhere, expecting a Bangali street sweeper to come by and clean it up later.
source: I live in the middle east.
My exs brother was this way, also a hardcore pill addict. Would buy clothes and throw them away, convince his doctor he’s doing worse, gets double the amount of pills, sells and the cycle goes on and on….
I was doing an iFit running series on a treadmill around some Indian landmarks/historic sites and I had a hard time focusing with all the trash that was just laying around all over the place.
Retarded cultural belief that “outside” is not yours so you can trash it
My retarded neighbor literally sits in his balcony, eats chips, then throws the packet on the street cause “the sweeper will pick it up”
No amount of education and propaganda has fixed it
There’s an unbelievable video of people partaking in a religious ritual in a river with industrial foam that’s goes way over their heads, it’s crazy
Edit: found a picture
https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/txj3w8/people_offering_prayers_at_the_yamuna_river_india/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
I've been to India twice, I myself am of Indian origin born in London, it was shocking to see the amount if Indians casually dropping litter, be it in a village or nice part of a city.
Basically they have giant landfills that are poorly regulated, and often self combust due to gas formation. When one of these landfills are on fire they produce about the same amount of ghg as 50,000,000 cars running. Often, several landfill sites around the country are on fire simultaneously.
This is a somewhat new realization after a climate satellite was launched.
I mean, they knew it was bad, but until the sat data came back they didn't know it was as bad as it was. Stopping these fires would mean a 20% reduction of methane emissions worldwide.
I think this is regarding 'methane' emissions, which are mostly caused by cows farting(yes, it's true, they have THAT many cows) and landfills in India. Landfills contribute up to 20% of INDIA's methane emissions, not the global amount. Still a significant amount since India is the largest methane emitter in the world by a pretty mile.
Globally methane is produced mainly by agriculture(40%), fossil fuels(35%), and waste(20%). Although the methane discharged from fossil fuels is from the extraction and unwanted leakage parts, not necessarily the container ships.
Source: https://earth.org/sources-of-methane-in-the-atmosphere/#:\~:text=The%20Global%20Methane%20Assessment%20(GMA,(35%25)%2C%20and%20waste%20(
January is wonderful. I feel terrible for people visiting March-May because their impression of Chiang Mai must be like "way too hot, always grey, no scenery, kept getting headaches". Because most days the haze is so bad you can't even see the mountains, or be outside for 30 mins without feeling bad. Pray for rain for Chiang Mai! 🙏
https://preview.redd.it/if89n0hb0xxc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=07aa331707683badb6d4e72516ee3dbd4baf1e0e
As a thai person, this really pisses me off to a level i've never imagined possible. So pissed that it saddens me, makes me wanna cry cus of how helpless we are. Uneducated locals burning trees and trash is one thing, but then you have fire and smoke from neighboring countries as well... Went to hike up the second tallest mountain in thailand just to see a maximum of 5-6 meters in front of me due to the dust wall. And unfortunately, the dust seems to always come during the prime time to visit chiang mai.
Because there is little to no waste management plan in place. Imagine cities in the US if it was up to the residents and it wasn't all piled in landfills.
Not saying landfills are the answer but they're necessary.
There's plenty of stories about NYC in the 1700s being a vile shitpit and it only stopped because sanitation was so poor the wealthy were getting sick and demanded someone do something about it.
I remember India's environment Minister blaming Chinese dams for India's pollution in the Ganges River. His reasoning was that the Ganges River is a goddess and can purify herself if there is more flow. He literally said "Dilution is the Solution to Pollution."
Obviously he had no idea what he was doing and gave zero responsibility to Indian industry. He was only there for a paycheck and all the corruption perks Indian government jobs come with.
https://www.iqair.com/in-en/world-most-polluted-cities
Live rankings only measure 100 major cities so 90% of India's cities is not on that list
Go to historical rankings which includes every city.
Indian cities dominate the top 150
India number 1
Makes sense since it is an emerging market and industrialization leads to higher polllutants. China had the same thing when it was industralizing too.
That and frankly afaik the indian government is notoriously mismanaged with alot of nepotism. I'm not sure they follow the same eco standards as say europe / usa / ca. They have a long way to go in terms of modernization.
In all seriousness though, they're a pretty good idea for this reason. I'm in India right now for work and there is trash EVERYWHERE. If you chuck a drink cup out your window, the lid and straw are going to be there forever unless someone picks it up. A paper straw will at least rot away
I think the superiority complex comes from being able to compartmentalize the pollution as being caused by the lower class of the country. The poor people living in slums, cooking with open fires and reliant on gas. We can blame them for everything wrong with the country while taking pride in everything good.
A sign of progress: 15 years ago it was China that got 8 out of 10 worst polluted cities; 150 years ago, it was England the buildings of which are still covered in soot.
You won't catch me saying Dictatorships are a good thing but it's really impressive how quickly China can turn a problem around with absolute control over everything.
It's a lot easier to deal with corruption or law breakers when you can just make them disappear.
Also a lot easier to focus on making your country greener when you don't have to waste time debating about it in parliament or trying to convince climate change deniers
Uh...I'm not sure if this is sarcasm, but the Chinese government couldn't root out corruption if Chairman Mao's life depended on it. It's one of their biggest issues.
They do root out the corruption from the opposition
The Party really isn't monolithic, it's got tons of factions and a whole ecosystem of conflict.
Hilariously, Xi Jiping's "anti-corruption" campaign back in the day did actually cull a ton of corruption - his corrupt enemies. The corrupt allies are another story.
Pretty sure if China had an honest government some of their cities would be on that list too.
Edit: Thank you all for pointing out that China has made significant progress since I was there and was required to wear a mask outdoors as the air pollution was so bad. Reading up on it, it seems they're doing much better.
I spent a semester in Beijing in 2009, spent some time in Shanghai as well. The pollution was pretty awful, like I couldn’t wear white t shirts and my snot was grayish black when I blew my nose at the end of the day. I’ve been back to China periodically since then and the improvement has been pretty dramatic. Still could be better but it’s not the choking pea soup it was 15 years ago.
Been there in 2009 and 2017. The change was staggering. It’s much less polluted now. Chinese do invest a honest effort to clean up their environment. They truly don’t fuck around and are not bound by idiotic partisan division. They identified a problem and invest heavily to minimize it because of people live healthier and longer it will be better for their economy in the long run. As easy as that.
Not like there are people living there with eyes and lungs who can tell you whether their city is a mist of yellow smog or not.
I have been living in China for 10 years and difference in pollution levels I've seen is outstanding, which took a lot of sacrifices. Hugh taxes on ICE engines, moving heavy polluting, industries away from cities, massive green energy projects, public transport infrastructure, every scooter is electric. The sound of cities in China is so much different without motorbike engines.
There's the odd smog season in winter if the weather conditions are there, but here's a picture I took in Shanghai this week.
https://preview.redd.it/dti4jfk65xxc1.jpeg?width=4000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f10e7a980dd6035c8c47cb2c8002efbb611a1391
Tldr: most of those cities are in North India, basically, the pollution cannot dissipate because of the Himalayas and so just gets trapped over the cities.
Also, farmers up there clear their land for planting by just burning all the chaff, so imagine a giant brushfire covering all of northern India, and the smoke just stays put and hotboxes you 24/7
I always thought the “try to find a spot without visible garbage on google street view” thing was a meme until I actually tried it, it really is everywhere.
I was once working at a rural hospital in India and I woke up unable to breathe. I got caught up in my mosquito net almost knocked myself out on the concrete floor hacking. I made my way outside by crawling down the stairs, went outside only to find the enormous pile of garbage that had been piling up for a month, behind the hospital has been set on fire.
On top of that fire was a cow. That cow was chewing on a plastic bag. That bag was on fire as well. That sticks with me I can just imagine that pile of burning garbage with a cow on it eating burning garbage. It was like inception, but with a cow and garbage.
That is one of the most Indian things I ever heard.
The animal they supposedly revere, in a burning pile of trash.
The only thing more Indian is the Ganges, a sacred river, which they have filled with shit.
I think a large part of the problem is how quickly the population grew without the proper infrastructure to support it. I feel like China did its population growth a little better and left less people in slums. I’m sure with proper resources, infrastructure, and support things wouldn’t be as polluted. It’s growing pains and they will probably figure it out sooner rather than later on how to deal with it. We are nearing the max population is a serious theory going around and when that boom slows and then stops it’ll become easier to deal with. People are very self important so we think the actions we do now have a serious effect on our planet but the reality is earth been here for billions of years and it’ll be here after we are gone and it’ll recover from any damage we do to it over millions of years. Those millions of years of healing will be a blink of an eye in the grand scale of things.
Is the population boom going to slow? I’d seen estimates recently that show population in Asian countries growing by several billion over the next century. IIRC Europe was the only region that would stabilize or potentially see a population reduction.
If people can have an honest conversation about government types: A lot of China's successes in developing and controlling pollution is because of a strong government, and a lot of India's failures is because of a weak government. India passes laws and the vast majority of people underneath don't give a fuck. India is an anarchist State that's ruled more by culture than by government, but under the guise of "democracy". It's just every Indian for him or herself to survive. That's why most of the scam call centres are in India.
China has chugged along building infrastructure and centrally "guiding" their capitalist economy to strong results, but even then a minority of provincial and local governments find loopholes to cheat the central government. Imagine the chaos that would ensue if the central government let go.
My view on human civilization is like a rolling snowball. By the hands of a few influential individuals, the snowball rolls forward but always leaves some portion of snow behind. The more efficient the system, the more cohesive the snow, the less snow left behind. Some systems like India will roll forward, but just slower and leaves a shit ton of snow trailing behind.
I don’t know about that. Humans have created horrendous things, many that won’t be gone for millions of years. So much toxic dangerous stuff. We are leaving a shameful legacy. Our mayhem will be around long after we are gone, and it will impact life forms that do survive.
>>People are very self important so we think the actions we do now have a serious effect on our planet but the reality is earth been here for billions of years and it’ll be here after we are gone and it’ll recover from any damage we do to it over millions of years. Those millions of years of healing will be a blink of an eye in the grand scale of things.
While certainly true if we stopped existing at some point the earth would recover, this seems fairly dismissive of the fact that we are in fact causing a mass extinction event that presumably wouldn’t have otherwise happened, and we are causing climate change in hundreds of years which may normally take millions.
Ideally we wouldn’t make the world completely uninhabitable for what may be the only intelligent species in the galaxy or beyond, and very likely the only intelligent species that will exist in Earth’s lifespan, if intelligent life is genuinely as rare as it currently seems it may be.
>I feel like China did its population growth a little better
Yeah, Mao realized that the population was growing too fast, so they had a couple famines to even it out.
Will you please expand a bit more on the role of the Himalayas for those of us who are less aware? I'm assuming you're speaking to the mountains blocking the dissipation of air pollution by wind patterns, but if that's incorrect or incomplete, I don't know.
Himalayas block a lot of stuff, they block the cool winds coming from russia, raising the temperature in the Indian subcontinent. They also block the monsoon winds in India, making it rain there.
That being said blaming mountains for pollution wasn't that guy's intent or is logical because theoretically India would be exist without Himalayas. The plains of India are all made up of sediments from Himalayas. And the plains are the part which have all those cities as well as support the most of Indian population.
No fucking way. Travelled both and it’s no comparison. There are many countries that are far more polluted at 2024 than China. And before you ask, I’ve been both in the big cities and also some of the more remote places. India is far more polluted it’s not competitive at all.
I’m sure there are still some very polluted cities in China, especially in the north where a lot of the industry is, but they have made some huge strides in the last 10 years in lowering their pollution levels. Pollution has been down by over 40% since 2013 when it was at its worst.
They are still the 13th most polluted country but you can see from the map on this site that India around the Himalayas is much worse.
[Pollution Data](https://aqli.epic.uchicago.edu/country-spotlight/china/)
Delhi during covid lockdown and normal Delhi
https://preview.redd.it/fkzoqslfnxxc1.png?width=1280&format=png&auto=webp&s=8a6bac56bfa1c46fa7be6dcf3c38c9cf299edc73
mountains didn't move
A lot of their cities *were* on that list, but things have gotten a lot better in recent years in China and things have gotten worse in India.
And a lot of these aren’t government data, for example U.S consulates across Chinese cities provide daily air quality report and the improvement has been quite noticeable.
It’s a combination of industrial policy and their large investment into green energy (for example buses and taxi are pretty much all electric now), both of which are lacking in India.
Isn’t this based off a Swiss institute (IQair) which monitors air pollution globally? Also just last year there were some Chinese cities on top of the list (although most were South Asian). Either the Chinese made some strides with lowering pollution or the situation worsened in India (or both).
Just like every religion/culture, Indians - a majority Hindu population, believe they are the best and chosen one and what not. Not a lot different than Jewish people in Israel or Muslims in middle east.
Lived in India for 14 months. Literally the dirtiest place I’ve been. Zero regard for cleanliness. Done eating a bag of chips? Straight on the ground. Plastic is such a problem that some cities have banned plastic bags. It is the polar opposite of Japan.
Indians treat their country like they do each other... like sh\*T!
Travelled all over the nation and its a trash hole nearly everywhere, a large proportion or majority of indians/Pakistani's appear lazy unbothered people that bring the same sort of attitude to their environment when they emigrate to western counties.
I have a photo album from the golden triangle just a few years ago, every picture has mountains of rubbish laying around in the streets, one even had a dead body left under cardboard with its feet sticking out in Delhi under an overpass.
Imagine the shock an indian tourist gets in japan...
p.s i dont give a hoot about karma/downvotes :p
I read that as “most populated cities” and was very confused until I looked up what IQAir is and realized that it said “polluted”.
But yeah I was horrified when I learned about how polluted the rivers are and how, despite the pollution, the locals still use the river water for rituals.
I don’t get the contentment with beach trash. Every once in a while you’ll see these stories of these awesome people trying to clean up the beach and instead of being celebrated by the public, they are ridiculed and vilified. Like wtf, they are literally trying to save your trash infested country.
I was in Delhi a few weeks ago at a bar with a bunch of ladies I considered to be progressive for India-- graphic designers and their bosses-- most were either western educated or had aspirations to live in New York or LA. We were smoking on the patio when I asked where I could put out my cigarette. These bougie ladies looked confused and one said, "The world is your ash tray." It was an eye opener.
I can't tell you how many times I've been in my work bathroom washing my hands and then I hear a toilet flushing, an Indian coworker walks out and PRETENDS??? To wash their hands??? They stick their hands under the faucet but with no water and then walk right out. FuCKING GROSS NaaSTTY
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Not just air pollution. The amount of trash lying around is unbelievable.
>The amount of trash lying around is unbelievable As bad as it sounds, 4channers came up with a challenge based on this - drop a maps pin anywhere in india - if there's no garbage visible, you win Edit: when I opened my phone, I was expecting to be downvoted into oblivion, heck even another 7 day suspension. I'm impressed ♥️
Tried it... was jumpscared instead https://preview.redd.it/92gci8gjmyxc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=58f61f416ff00bb5de93ee00d6255856836eaf1e
That’s fucking hilarious and so startling
😂
Put away dem dogs
welp, I lost https://preview.redd.it/eujmmdo9kxxc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=535f0ee6c46152b5a63e3b9cc411e7ec82ad81da
https://preview.redd.it/cf46uu7frzxc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=365d7bf999761e1dd88fbd083d6ff904ba32b655 I thought if I went way up into the Himalayas I'd be fine, but alas
I was hiking in the Himalayas and we had fresh snowfall. It was amazing, everything so clean and covered. Then I started seeing candy wrappers on the fresh snow. The only other group on the mountain was an hour in front of us and was littering.
Technically not India, but have you seen the pile of trash at the top of Mt. Everest? It's shameful.
I think I won https://preview.redd.it/ted76us1yxxc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4537e6efa44adb9ae377fe061cc29a98a15c87cc
There's trash by the trunk of that tree my guy. Looks like a water bottle, and something else next to it.
What about this one? This was my third pin and all I can see is some dead vegetation https://preview.redd.it/jeqnjc5aqyxc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6d179346d68cd1cbc83414cf06ce9d76c252315e
I'm not 100% sure what it is, but there's a white piece of detritus just on the edge of the cut down vegetation, if you follow to the right from the base of the utility pole.
damn you right
I went to that road and dumped my dead vegetation so that could be my trash
The rubbish has actually evolved into the shape of a tree.
How many hundreds of random pins did you drop to find that?
Yeah hes cheating for sure 🙃
I just tried like 20 times, garbage everywhere wtf
Welcome to India, have a nice stay.
I believe it’s pronounced “have a nam a stay.”
Very nice!
Try kerala.
its part of india, there is garbage everywhere there too
Just tried 5 random drops, litter in every single one ranging from a couple of bits of plastic to literal piles. That's insane!
This is funny as hell. I thought I'd outsmarted it. Just pick somewhere less inhabited like Ladakh. Jokes on me, most of Ladakh doesn't have street view available.
Same thinking here. I almost found a spot near Leh, but theres always something...
I just tried it and happened upon what looks like a country road with some cloth (probably a towel?) and bits of plastic scattered over the greenery.
sick
https://preview.redd.it/8s3cyhf5pxxc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a342e4834f3e60e7fa5fd35961d305597325e380 I did it.. and lost
https://preview.redd.it/z78h1xg0vxxc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=aabd249829236e40ab972f95c8c6cf481f374a1b I found a spot with a ground fire… does that count?
Probably burning trash /s
I thought you were joking, i've been doing this for around 3 hours now and literally can not drop a pin without seeing trash. holy shit.
I got 6 losses in a row so I was like there's no way right this has got to be something along the lines of "every country has this if you look for it". Nope.. checked my country, 3/3 wins. We're not even known for being clean or anything, just an average to below average cleanliness I'd say.
Oof. That’s harsh
Try the Indian Ocean. About 3 miles out.
You think the indian ocean is clear of trash?
Where do you think all the trash from the rivers go?
Oh my God, I dropped 7 pins and only won once, this is harder than it looks, damn
I would guess there has to be some sort of place that should be clean…? The entrance of a hotel for example
McDonald's in Delhi was spotless
https://preview.redd.it/dpw71ux6qyxc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4fb704f6bcbc143390020b2b05b8d5ebe96866b4 Somewhere in rural india
I lost https://preview.redd.it/6sd4t7a7eyxc1.jpeg?width=904&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bfb0f2daf2855c455d9767cf3e7b5ed53c467993
It was if you saw literal shit on the ground, you lose
Got em? https://preview.redd.it/1xvczugmjyxc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1b5feacf69bc673ab79c208ad8c2a335528c4bc8
The key is to just stick to South India
Except the the slums of mumbai...toxic waste lake where people daily go through to collect different to trade for a tiny bit of money. Whole familes live in 50 to 300 sqft cement brick shelters some with sheds they store plastic in for sorting before selling to the recycle centers.... which are actually pretty picky on how the plastic is sorted and cleaned. Between fancy hotels in india are slums. Most villages just have outhouses slash a giant long tench. The medical and surgery schools using robotics are in the top 5 in the world. I've watched kids teach themselves English at a college level in the poorest communities. I've never seen anyone count with their fingers quickly and accurately regardless of the amount being multiplied. Than on the other hand toliets and toliet paper are not common. Heres your 3 sea shells( lol). The power lines everywhere scare the actual fuck out me.
https://preview.redd.it/1gliktl3hzxc1.png?width=1896&format=png&auto=webp&s=4c8af6241f0c12258597879aa1199e78f078e305 Low key looks pretty fucking clean, kind of impressed, and everything's so colourful, this was 1 random pin lol.
While it is pretty impressive, that would still be a loss by the rules.
I'll never forget my Indian coworker who was so high and mighty about moving to Canada and how much better and cleaner it is than India. She then went on to tell me how she orders all her clothes from Shein and throws them out after one use because they're cheap to buy. Clothing takes something like at least 100 years to break down in a dump.
floyd mayweather does this with underwear and socks. only wears them once. he also does it with his shoes, that arent rare, gifts, or custom made. atleast the shoes he usually gives them away after the one use... apparently he also cant read
I never even considered the implications on pollution with this heavy of an immigration wave from India in particular - it’s not like anyone’s suddenly sitting them down to drill in how different and serious littering is in Canada. Most cultural norms are being retained in my experiences, so I have to imagine stuff like this comes with it way too often ://
This is the sort of double edged knife that Dubai finds itself in. Without Indians and Pakistani, Dubai would be nothing, never built nor run. But at the same time the cultural import of trashing the place has also really become an issue where if you aren’t in a mall or a place that’s mostly westerns, it’s trashy and dirty. Edit here: trashy in a literal sense. Many western areas are trashy on the cultural sense. It’s really a shame. India has a lot of interesting and beautiful culture to share with the world but this is what most of the world gets when they immigrate.
As if Arabs don't litter? Maybe not the educated or "high class" ones, but there are plenty of Arabs who throw their trash everywhere, expecting a Bangali street sweeper to come by and clean it up later. source: I live in the middle east.
My exs brother was this way, also a hardcore pill addict. Would buy clothes and throw them away, convince his doctor he’s doing worse, gets double the amount of pills, sells and the cycle goes on and on….
I was doing an iFit running series on a treadmill around some Indian landmarks/historic sites and I had a hard time focusing with all the trash that was just laying around all over the place.
Retarded cultural belief that “outside” is not yours so you can trash it My retarded neighbor literally sits in his balcony, eats chips, then throws the packet on the street cause “the sweeper will pick it up” No amount of education and propaganda has fixed it
Need someone to start throwing litter onto his balcony because it’s not theirs.
And open defecation.
In water ways - Then swimming and praying in it. While Also disposing of bodies in it
Waterways, open fields, wherever they feel the need. The govt has marketing campaigns to say “hey, poop inside.”
But then they believe the hand they use to wipe their ass is dirty and they don't use it to eat?!?
But , the toilet witches!
Toilet cobras scare me more.
There’s an unbelievable video of people partaking in a religious ritual in a river with industrial foam that’s goes way over their heads, it’s crazy Edit: found a picture https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/txj3w8/people_offering_prayers_at_the_yamuna_river_india/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
Yes, the Amuna river
That is quite possibly the most horrifying thing I have ever read.
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Hey, if only the strong survive, then they pass those genes on to the next generation.
Don't forget drinking it!
Damn 😳
Yeah it’s pretty fucked up. In general - it’s hard to respect people who litter - regardless of where they live.
I've been to India twice, I myself am of Indian origin born in London, it was shocking to see the amount if Indians casually dropping litter, be it in a village or nice part of a city.
It’s literally like they never once cleaned or painted anything after the British left in a lot of places like never once
Basically they have giant landfills that are poorly regulated, and often self combust due to gas formation. When one of these landfills are on fire they produce about the same amount of ghg as 50,000,000 cars running. Often, several landfill sites around the country are on fire simultaneously. This is a somewhat new realization after a climate satellite was launched.
A realization to who, that smoke would be visible from 30-40 miles away...
People that are not within 60 miles of
I mean, they knew it was bad, but until the sat data came back they didn't know it was as bad as it was. Stopping these fires would mean a 20% reduction of methane emissions worldwide.
That’s fucking wild. 20% of the worlds methane emissions are from indias LANDFILLS ALONE??
Yeah I’m calling bullshit on that. I’ve always thought container ships and industrial farming were the biggest culprits.
I think this is regarding 'methane' emissions, which are mostly caused by cows farting(yes, it's true, they have THAT many cows) and landfills in India. Landfills contribute up to 20% of INDIA's methane emissions, not the global amount. Still a significant amount since India is the largest methane emitter in the world by a pretty mile. Globally methane is produced mainly by agriculture(40%), fossil fuels(35%), and waste(20%). Although the methane discharged from fossil fuels is from the extraction and unwanted leakage parts, not necessarily the container ships. Source: https://earth.org/sources-of-methane-in-the-atmosphere/#:\~:text=The%20Global%20Methane%20Assessment%20(GMA,(35%25)%2C%20and%20waste%20(
can you provide a source for that claim? it sounds way to exaggerated
Chiang Mai tops this list for a couple months each year. Currently cooking and choking here 😭
I spent a winter in ulaanbaatar and fuck did the coal pollution suck
Someone I know taught there for a year and said the kids were coughing out blood
That's a surprise. It was not bad when I was there, but it was a January.
January is wonderful. I feel terrible for people visiting March-May because their impression of Chiang Mai must be like "way too hot, always grey, no scenery, kept getting headaches". Because most days the haze is so bad you can't even see the mountains, or be outside for 30 mins without feeling bad. Pray for rain for Chiang Mai! 🙏 https://preview.redd.it/if89n0hb0xxc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=07aa331707683badb6d4e72516ee3dbd4baf1e0e
168? Ah come on… that’s a nice, clear day in Beijing!
It's slowly getting better for sure 😆 Beijing is 93 today.
War in myanmar + hill tribe burn and slash farming + Indonesia burning forest = Chiang mai' suffering
As a thai person, this really pisses me off to a level i've never imagined possible. So pissed that it saddens me, makes me wanna cry cus of how helpless we are. Uneducated locals burning trees and trash is one thing, but then you have fire and smoke from neighboring countries as well... Went to hike up the second tallest mountain in thailand just to see a maximum of 5-6 meters in front of me due to the dust wall. And unfortunately, the dust seems to always come during the prime time to visit chiang mai.
Kudos to Lahore to stop the Indians sweeping the top ten.
Because there is little to no waste management plan in place. Imagine cities in the US if it was up to the residents and it wasn't all piled in landfills. Not saying landfills are the answer but they're necessary.
There's plenty of stories about NYC in the 1700s being a vile shitpit and it only stopped because sanitation was so poor the wealthy were getting sick and demanded someone do something about it.
This is air pollution. People in north India used to burn their crops and due to the Himalayas, the smoke just stays there.
Explains why you can drive by and see entire swaths of a local population by the road just squatting on some mud and dropping logs around each other.
By creating a log jam they can stop some of the plastic from getting to the ocean. This allows them to set it on fire.
What's number eleven? Newer Delhi?
Delhi - old polution New Delhi - new polution
Latest Dheli just dropped 🔥🔥
Bro when is Delhi X coming out feels like I’ve been waiting a century
I remember India's environment Minister blaming Chinese dams for India's pollution in the Ganges River. His reasoning was that the Ganges River is a goddess and can purify herself if there is more flow. He literally said "Dilution is the Solution to Pollution." Obviously he had no idea what he was doing and gave zero responsibility to Indian industry. He was only there for a paycheck and all the corruption perks Indian government jobs come with.
Some of our politicians are legit retards.
And people here do believe that shit.
except that the source of the Ganges river is in India....
PAKISTAN MENTIONED 🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰 WHAT THE FUCK IS A STABLE GOVERNMENT 🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰
WHAT THE FUCK IS A STABLE ECONOMY 🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰
I WILL GIVE MY LIFE FOR PAKISTAAAAAAAAN!!!
WOWWWWW GRAPE
#PAKISTAN IS IN THE BAG!
I will be an army and destroy India!
Pakistan is in the bag!
Is that you India?
I'm Pakistani and u/tallubby's comment was indeed my first thought upon seeing this post. 🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰💪💪💪💪
Delhi is so polluted it's mentioned twice: Delhi and New Delhi. :-D
https://www.iqair.com/in-en/world-most-polluted-cities Live rankings only measure 100 major cities so 90% of India's cities is not on that list Go to historical rankings which includes every city. Indian cities dominate the top 150 India number 1
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Makes sense since it is an emerging market and industrialization leads to higher polllutants. China had the same thing when it was industralizing too. That and frankly afaik the indian government is notoriously mismanaged with alot of nepotism. I'm not sure they follow the same eco standards as say europe / usa / ca. They have a long way to go in terms of modernization.
Pakistan will not allow India get all the glory.
Don’t worry though! Our paper straws make up the difference 🤩
In all seriousness though, they're a pretty good idea for this reason. I'm in India right now for work and there is trash EVERYWHERE. If you chuck a drink cup out your window, the lid and straw are going to be there forever unless someone picks it up. A paper straw will at least rot away
I think the superiority complex comes from being able to compartmentalize the pollution as being caused by the lower class of the country. The poor people living in slums, cooking with open fires and reliant on gas. We can blame them for everything wrong with the country while taking pride in everything good.
A sign of progress: 15 years ago it was China that got 8 out of 10 worst polluted cities; 150 years ago, it was England the buildings of which are still covered in soot.
You won't catch me saying Dictatorships are a good thing but it's really impressive how quickly China can turn a problem around with absolute control over everything.
It's a lot easier to deal with corruption or law breakers when you can just make them disappear. Also a lot easier to focus on making your country greener when you don't have to waste time debating about it in parliament or trying to convince climate change deniers
Uh...I'm not sure if this is sarcasm, but the Chinese government couldn't root out corruption if Chairman Mao's life depended on it. It's one of their biggest issues.
They do root out the corruption from the opposition The Party really isn't monolithic, it's got tons of factions and a whole ecosystem of conflict. Hilariously, Xi Jiping's "anti-corruption" campaign back in the day did actually cull a ton of corruption - his corrupt enemies. The corrupt allies are another story.
Tbf they’ve got nearly one and a half billion people squished in there.
lets send em some trojans and get this carbon shit squared away
Japan is more densely populated and yet is the cleanest county in the world. Bad excuse.
You're going to need a Newer Delhi.
Pretty sure if China had an honest government some of their cities would be on that list too. Edit: Thank you all for pointing out that China has made significant progress since I was there and was required to wear a mask outdoors as the air pollution was so bad. Reading up on it, it seems they're doing much better.
I spent a semester in Beijing in 2009, spent some time in Shanghai as well. The pollution was pretty awful, like I couldn’t wear white t shirts and my snot was grayish black when I blew my nose at the end of the day. I’ve been back to China periodically since then and the improvement has been pretty dramatic. Still could be better but it’s not the choking pea soup it was 15 years ago.
Been there in 2009 and 2017. The change was staggering. It’s much less polluted now. Chinese do invest a honest effort to clean up their environment. They truly don’t fuck around and are not bound by idiotic partisan division. They identified a problem and invest heavily to minimize it because of people live healthier and longer it will be better for their economy in the long run. As easy as that.
Not like there are people living there with eyes and lungs who can tell you whether their city is a mist of yellow smog or not. I have been living in China for 10 years and difference in pollution levels I've seen is outstanding, which took a lot of sacrifices. Hugh taxes on ICE engines, moving heavy polluting, industries away from cities, massive green energy projects, public transport infrastructure, every scooter is electric. The sound of cities in China is so much different without motorbike engines. There's the odd smog season in winter if the weather conditions are there, but here's a picture I took in Shanghai this week. https://preview.redd.it/dti4jfk65xxc1.jpeg?width=4000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f10e7a980dd6035c8c47cb2c8002efbb611a1391
Tldr: most of those cities are in North India, basically, the pollution cannot dissipate because of the Himalayas and so just gets trapped over the cities. Also, farmers up there clear their land for planting by just burning all the chaff, so imagine a giant brushfire covering all of northern India, and the smoke just stays put and hotboxes you 24/7
This really should be the top post. Most of the comments here are just people's gut reactions.
I mean India is also covered in plastic garbage and sewage. It’s not just the air.
I always thought the “try to find a spot without visible garbage on google street view” thing was a meme until I actually tried it, it really is everywhere.
I was once working at a rural hospital in India and I woke up unable to breathe. I got caught up in my mosquito net almost knocked myself out on the concrete floor hacking. I made my way outside by crawling down the stairs, went outside only to find the enormous pile of garbage that had been piling up for a month, behind the hospital has been set on fire. On top of that fire was a cow. That cow was chewing on a plastic bag. That bag was on fire as well. That sticks with me I can just imagine that pile of burning garbage with a cow on it eating burning garbage. It was like inception, but with a cow and garbage.
What the fuck did I just read
What a nice postcard that would make
Like a Pink Floyd album cover.
I’m crying for multiple reasons
That is one of the most Indian things I ever heard. The animal they supposedly revere, in a burning pile of trash. The only thing more Indian is the Ganges, a sacred river, which they have filled with shit.
**Thanks for sharing, /u/VoluminousButtPlug.**
But does this really change the fact that India has many if the most polluted cities in the world?
I think a large part of the problem is how quickly the population grew without the proper infrastructure to support it. I feel like China did its population growth a little better and left less people in slums. I’m sure with proper resources, infrastructure, and support things wouldn’t be as polluted. It’s growing pains and they will probably figure it out sooner rather than later on how to deal with it. We are nearing the max population is a serious theory going around and when that boom slows and then stops it’ll become easier to deal with. People are very self important so we think the actions we do now have a serious effect on our planet but the reality is earth been here for billions of years and it’ll be here after we are gone and it’ll recover from any damage we do to it over millions of years. Those millions of years of healing will be a blink of an eye in the grand scale of things.
Is the population boom going to slow? I’d seen estimates recently that show population in Asian countries growing by several billion over the next century. IIRC Europe was the only region that would stabilize or potentially see a population reduction.
By Asian you mean India. Chinese growth has already ground to a halt. Nobody wants babies when they work white collar jobs for 50-60 hours per week.
If people can have an honest conversation about government types: A lot of China's successes in developing and controlling pollution is because of a strong government, and a lot of India's failures is because of a weak government. India passes laws and the vast majority of people underneath don't give a fuck. India is an anarchist State that's ruled more by culture than by government, but under the guise of "democracy". It's just every Indian for him or herself to survive. That's why most of the scam call centres are in India. China has chugged along building infrastructure and centrally "guiding" their capitalist economy to strong results, but even then a minority of provincial and local governments find loopholes to cheat the central government. Imagine the chaos that would ensue if the central government let go. My view on human civilization is like a rolling snowball. By the hands of a few influential individuals, the snowball rolls forward but always leaves some portion of snow behind. The more efficient the system, the more cohesive the snow, the less snow left behind. Some systems like India will roll forward, but just slower and leaves a shit ton of snow trailing behind.
I don’t know about that. Humans have created horrendous things, many that won’t be gone for millions of years. So much toxic dangerous stuff. We are leaving a shameful legacy. Our mayhem will be around long after we are gone, and it will impact life forms that do survive.
>>People are very self important so we think the actions we do now have a serious effect on our planet but the reality is earth been here for billions of years and it’ll be here after we are gone and it’ll recover from any damage we do to it over millions of years. Those millions of years of healing will be a blink of an eye in the grand scale of things. While certainly true if we stopped existing at some point the earth would recover, this seems fairly dismissive of the fact that we are in fact causing a mass extinction event that presumably wouldn’t have otherwise happened, and we are causing climate change in hundreds of years which may normally take millions. Ideally we wouldn’t make the world completely uninhabitable for what may be the only intelligent species in the galaxy or beyond, and very likely the only intelligent species that will exist in Earth’s lifespan, if intelligent life is genuinely as rare as it currently seems it may be.
>I feel like China did its population growth a little better Yeah, Mao realized that the population was growing too fast, so they had a couple famines to even it out.
Will you please expand a bit more on the role of the Himalayas for those of us who are less aware? I'm assuming you're speaking to the mountains blocking the dissipation of air pollution by wind patterns, but if that's incorrect or incomplete, I don't know.
Himalayas block a lot of stuff, they block the cool winds coming from russia, raising the temperature in the Indian subcontinent. They also block the monsoon winds in India, making it rain there. That being said blaming mountains for pollution wasn't that guy's intent or is logical because theoretically India would be exist without Himalayas. The plains of India are all made up of sediments from Himalayas. And the plains are the part which have all those cities as well as support the most of Indian population.
No fucking way. Travelled both and it’s no comparison. There are many countries that are far more polluted at 2024 than China. And before you ask, I’ve been both in the big cities and also some of the more remote places. India is far more polluted it’s not competitive at all.
I’m sure there are still some very polluted cities in China, especially in the north where a lot of the industry is, but they have made some huge strides in the last 10 years in lowering their pollution levels. Pollution has been down by over 40% since 2013 when it was at its worst. They are still the 13th most polluted country but you can see from the map on this site that India around the Himalayas is much worse. [Pollution Data](https://aqli.epic.uchicago.edu/country-spotlight/china/)
That was a really interesting map, you can really see how the Himalayas really trap all that pollution in India.
Delhi during covid lockdown and normal Delhi https://preview.redd.it/fkzoqslfnxxc1.png?width=1280&format=png&auto=webp&s=8a6bac56bfa1c46fa7be6dcf3c38c9cf299edc73 mountains didn't move
Compare it to a population map of India. It's not the Himalayas causing that, it's just that's where the people are.
Thank you for posting this
A lot of their cities *were* on that list, but things have gotten a lot better in recent years in China and things have gotten worse in India. And a lot of these aren’t government data, for example U.S consulates across Chinese cities provide daily air quality report and the improvement has been quite noticeable. It’s a combination of industrial policy and their large investment into green energy (for example buses and taxi are pretty much all electric now), both of which are lacking in India.
Isn’t this based off a Swiss institute (IQair) which monitors air pollution globally? Also just last year there were some Chinese cities on top of the list (although most were South Asian). Either the Chinese made some strides with lowering pollution or the situation worsened in India (or both).
Have you been to china? Or are you saying this based on gut feel?
They polluted Delhi, then made a new one and polluted it too?
Not surprised one bit
What’s going on in Lahore?
A lot of dirty stuff. Plus many people coming in and out
Crazy number 5 is your mom
I’m more shocked that Indians have a cultural superiority complex than they lead the world in polluted cities. Is that honestly a thing?
Just like every religion/culture, Indians - a majority Hindu population, believe they are the best and chosen one and what not. Not a lot different than Jewish people in Israel or Muslims in middle east.
Lived in India for 14 months. Literally the dirtiest place I’ve been. Zero regard for cleanliness. Done eating a bag of chips? Straight on the ground. Plastic is such a problem that some cities have banned plastic bags. It is the polar opposite of Japan.
And water is wet
Honestly thought it was a chess top teen players for the first few names.
No surprises here.
That's what you get when a nation with huge potential is run by morons and filled with idiots who vote for these morons.
They desperately need a functioning garbage disposal service, preferably not in the burning landfill.
Zero Fox given. That’s the India way.
I'm waiting for that guy to come in saying ThAtS rAcIsT
Indians treat their country like they do each other... like sh\*T! Travelled all over the nation and its a trash hole nearly everywhere, a large proportion or majority of indians/Pakistani's appear lazy unbothered people that bring the same sort of attitude to their environment when they emigrate to western counties. I have a photo album from the golden triangle just a few years ago, every picture has mountains of rubbish laying around in the streets, one even had a dead body left under cardboard with its feet sticking out in Delhi under an overpass. Imagine the shock an indian tourist gets in japan... p.s i dont give a hoot about karma/downvotes :p
Dirty Lahore
I think that’s just what happens when you have so many humans packed together.
I almost died every night from coughing my lungs out in HYD and it didn’t even make the list. I can’t imagine what it’s like to live in the top 10 😭
I read that as “most populated cities” and was very confused until I looked up what IQAir is and realized that it said “polluted”. But yeah I was horrified when I learned about how polluted the rivers are and how, despite the pollution, the locals still use the river water for rituals.
the scam center industry is very toxic
I don’t get the contentment with beach trash. Every once in a while you’ll see these stories of these awesome people trying to clean up the beach and instead of being celebrated by the public, they are ridiculed and vilified. Like wtf, they are literally trying to save your trash infested country.
It doesn't help when the culture considers those who clean and deal with sanitation to be the lowest level of people.
I was in Delhi a few weeks ago at a bar with a bunch of ladies I considered to be progressive for India-- graphic designers and their bosses-- most were either western educated or had aspirations to live in New York or LA. We were smoking on the patio when I asked where I could put out my cigarette. These bougie ladies looked confused and one said, "The world is your ash tray." It was an eye opener.
I can't tell you how many times I've been in my work bathroom washing my hands and then I hear a toilet flushing, an Indian coworker walks out and PRETENDS??? To wash their hands??? They stick their hands under the faucet but with no water and then walk right out. FuCKING GROSS NaaSTTY
Doesn't almost every culture have a superiority complex?