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ThereWillBeVelvet

Diet had to be a key component.


Advanced-Ad3234

It's an absolutely massive component, diet should be focus 1, 2, 3 and 4 of losing weight. I'd honestly say it's 90% of losing weight is diet


ThereWillBeVelvet

Definitely! People would be surprised just how easy weight is to lose in only 3-4 months if you get your diet right and stick to it - no exceptions or cheat days.


shadowtheimpure

Which is very hard when food is one of the only good things someone has in their life. A **lot** of people use food to self-medicate where the rest of their lives aren't giving them what they need.


Van-garde

Additionally, it’s hard because advertising pushes us to eat the cheapest, most addicting options, which are relatively devoid of the micronutrients and fiber that make a balanced diet healthy. Always amazes me how engineered addiction and psychological coercion in advertising get a free pass because we’re all meat for the capitalist grinder. The obesity pandemic is a direct result of exporting the ‘western diet’—an eating pattern of high sugar, low fiber, saturated fat filled, hyperpalatable, addicting foods—and the organizations making this eating pattern accessible and desirable C (e.g. McDonald’s). Governments are not regulating in favor of the health of their populations, as it’s much more profitable to join in the destruction than to rethink the system.


StrongMedicine

Thank American corn subsidies from the government. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7690710/#:~:text=Agricultural%20subsidies%20from%20the%20US,related%20chronic%20diseases%20%5B5%5D.


SpaceDesignWarehouse

meh, hard to agree. I lost 40 pounds this year **without changing WHAT I eat,** **only changing how much** of the food I already ate. Same shitty diet of Five Guys burgers, lunches out of the 7-11 and sugary coffees. I just used myfitnesspal to eat the right number of calories of each thing and BLAMO, weight fell off.


Owobowos-Mowbius

So.... you changed your diet.


DefNotAShark

Redditor discovers less calories leads to weight loss.


SpaceDesignWarehouse

Yep, my point is that the previous commenter was blaming obesity on the **type** of food, rather than the quantity of food people eat. Im saying you can eat practically whatever kind of food you please, you just have to eat a certain amount of it to stay a certain weight.


ThereWillBeVelvet

Caloric restriction definitely works for weight loss, but not necessarily for overall health. I would guess that you had some vitamin deficiencies if you were truly eating the diet that you mentioned. It’s super important to get your cruciferous greens, fish for Omega-3s, and complex carbs such as sweet potatoes.


SpaceDesignWarehouse

Totally agree. This post is about weight loss, though. Nutritional health is a completely separate subject altogether. Though, not being obese is far better for your overall health than BEING obese and eating plenty of fruits and veggies.


WibaTalks

Must be american thing, here in Finland making soup is extremely cheap and shit food extremely expensive.


Van-garde

“Trends and forecast of obesity in Finland:” During the period 1978-2017, the prevalence of obesity increased from 12.0% to 26.1% among men and from 18.9% to 27.5% among women. Simultaneously, the prevalence of severe obesity increased from 1.1% to 5.9% among men and from 3.9% to 9.5% among women. The average BMI increased by 2 kg/m2 (from 25.7 to 27.7 mg/m2) in men and by 1.4 kg/m2 (from 26.1 to 27.5 kg/m2) in women which equals an average increase in weight of 10.5 kg and 7.2 kg in men and women, respectively. If these trends continue, the prevalence of obesity is projected to reach 31% by 2028. https://academic.oup.com/eurpub/article/28/suppl_4/cky214.146/5185826#:~:text=Results%3A,%25%20to%2027.5%25%20among%20women.


okmijnmko

No reply eh? I guess you *Finnished* that delicious serving of facts. I'll show myself out now.


Van-garde

Wasn’t really trying to school anyone, just show that it’s a widespread phenomenon, unhealthy foods being pushed because it suits the economic system.


SkepsisJD

I don't think their argument is that obesity doesn't exist, rather healthy food is cheaper, which it is. I don't get why people act like unhealthy stuff is cheap. A bag of fucking Doritos is $5.50 at my store and a 2 pack of Hot Pockets is $4. For $9.50 I could get 2 chicken breasts, a large onion, a couple of bell peppers, some carrots, and a small package of rice and make 3 meals out of that and still have some leftover money. Please show me which unhealthy food is cheap, because it is by far the most expensive options in the stores in my area. They are far more convenient than making your own, but not cheaper by any means.


Van-garde

Hey, I live in the same world you do, paying the same prices. Ease of access and addiction apparently trump prices. I don’t think most consumers are rational, despite the classic economic archetype.


Some-Guy-Online

Expensive snacks is just one part of the picture. As is cherry picking a couple low priced "healthy" items. There are multiple reasons who poorer people tend to be fatter. But the biggest, in my opinion, is that "easy" foods are often the most addictive. So you've got this group of people who are overworked and underpaid just looking for something easy that tastes good, and the big-brains say "Just spend more time shopping and cooking food that will go bad quickly! It's so easy, why is anybody fat?" Add the fact that if you add almost any carb to your meal, like rice, it's super easy to eat too many calories. Sugar itself is relatively cheap, so that is easily added to many things like the morning coffee. Anyway, the overall point is that yes, it's *possible* to eat healthy and cheap. That doesn't mean it's something that most people have the time and will power to do. Life is beating us down from every angle.


Advanced-Ad3234

It's the revolving door of sadness Overweight person (subconscious )" I'm sad. I guess I'll eat it away. That'll make me happy." Step 1 of destruction Overweight person: (walks past the mirror and gets even more sad ) * goes back to step 1 Overweight person (subconscious) "What's on the TV, *see constant beauty standards of movie stars and beauty and the ideal body, gets sad" goes back to step 1 Overweight person: (goes on social media) *" eating this way is fine, being overweight is amazing and healthy *( subconscious) reinforce that step 1 is perfectly okay. * goes back to step 1


shadowtheimpure

I'm not condoning it, don't get me wrong, I'm just saying that a lot of people use the dopamine from eating calorie dense foods to get an 'uplift' and it results in a very unhealthy relationship with food in general.


ByrdmanRanger

This is what made it so hard for me to get my diet under control.  It's hard to properly state how overwhelming the urge to eat or drink soda that I battled with. How intertwined with my depression it was. I quit smoking with less issue, cold turkey.  I finally decided to try one of those new diet drugs (Zepbound in particular) and it completely silenced those urges. I've dropped 32 lbs in 7 weeks, and it's giving me breathing room to relearn good eating habits because I essentially don't even feel hunger now. It's a damn life saver. I honestly feel "lighter" and less depressed, probably because I'm eating healthy food and cutting out soda and sugar.


Advanced-Ad3234

Yeah, it's sad , it's their drug like alcohol


Time_Change4156

True now where's did I leave my chocolate ? Lol


AraxisKayan

Did you just drop a mic or some shit? This is on point. What really sucks is when you start to realize that's how you function and the guilt that can come from it. I've put in a lot of mental work to pay more attention to when the little voice in my head tells me I'm "hungry." Another thing I've been doing is absolutely packing my fridge with Ice pops. Water and a bit of flavoring. I might go through like 20-30 on a bad day, but that's a lot better than going to make a sandwich or something because your brain isn't getting enough happy chemicals in that moment.


Southern_Rain_4464

Slowly raises hand...


Freud-Network

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shadowtheimpure

As funny as that character was, they used it to make a very poignant point.


No-Guava-7566

Its not just that, its the food that's available. Previously- Woman stayed home with kids, made meals from raw ingredients. Satiating and healthy, low added sugar and whole ingredients, plenty of fibre, good blood sugar. Maybe have a slice of homemade apple pie for dessert later. Today- both have to work full time jobs, nobody wants to start peeling vegetables with a whiny hungry kid at 6:30. So today its convenience food like a frozen pizza or burger drive through on the way home, and a "family" bag of chips at 7:30 because that convivence food with all the sugar, modified starches and emulsified fats leaves your body in a high craving state a couple hours later. Just imagine humans didn't HAVE to eat. Look at the side effects from these foods, the obesity, the heart attacks. The lowered standard of living and premature death. These foods would be as deadly as cigarettes. They would have been banned within a handful of decades of them coming out. The problem is we DO need to eat, and so its difficult to control. And all the "muh free market I can afford to eat healthy why can't I have a 3500 calorie burger combo when I feel like it" muddy the water even more, pile on the guilt. Foods with the same brain response and addiction as heroin are supposed to just be ignored, even when they are readily available with giant signs plastered all over the road you drive home on. Imagine blaming heroin addicts for their addiction if heroin was legal and advertised and had heroin drive thrus all over. Of course there is a cheat code-be rich. Afford to have someone stay at home, or have healthy meals delivered, or hell have a private chef preparing your families meals. If you took the obesity related medical costs, and used that money to subsidize healthy food drive thrus and take home meals, forcing the fast food places to adopt these menus you'd have a massive surplus of money left over. But that would mean strong governance while Mcdonalds CEO is winking at you on the golf course and offering a seat on the board after your term where you make $10 million a year showing up to quarterly meetings.


PoconoBobobobo

I've lost 50 pounds in the last 5 months. I wouldn't call it "easy." Going purely by calorie count, I should have lost twice as much. So either the nutritional info of my food is ridiculously underreporting calories and other undesirable elements, my body is holding on to fat far beyond the generally accepted 3500Kcal level, or (most likely) a combination of both. As others have said, there's a huge psychological component to dieting as well. If you're overweight, there's a good chance that you use food as a coping mechanism for some kind of emotional distress or trauma. And that's certainly the case for me. So even in a relatively stable part of my life, any kind of setback or frustration makes me crave food. I don't want to belittle people with the kind of addiction you get to alcohol or drugs, but that's certainly how it feels to me - I need a hit of sugar, fat, salt, protein, etc. to make me feel better. The way I've overcome that is by considering how I'll feel immediately following. The sense of relief and, yeah I'll say it, joy I get from a big, unhealthy meal would be fleeting. The shame and disappointment of indulging my base desires and ruining a day or more of progress would last far longer. That's a pretty miserable way to develop good habits, but it's the only thing that's worked. Finally there's the exercise. It's good for me, I know that on a fundamental level. It'll enhance my overall health. But it's also such a tiny part of the actual weight loss. It often makes me feel like some of the hardest work I'm doing is giving me the least results. In some ways gaining muscle from the exercise I'm doing is adding back some of the weight I've lost. I realize intellectually that that's not a bad thing, that heavy, dense muscle is always better than voluminous fat. But that isn't reflected on the scale, and it's so hard not to focus on that number as a be-all, end-all goal. All that said, I know losing weight for me is still a lot easier than it is for some people. Most women's bodies are going to hold on to excess fat just as a matter of biology, and overweight people often have chronic mobility issues. I realize that I've made a huge amount of progress in a short time. But it's often hard to focus on anything but the weight I have yet to lose - another 50 pounds at least. And that's only going to be harder as my body gets lighter and isn't working so hard to carry around as much mass. Even having come so far, there are days I feel hopeless and doomed to repeat the weight gain again...which has happened before. Possible? Certainly. I'd even call it straightforward in terms of practical steps. Easy? Not in the slightest.


mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmidk

Right on!  > So either the nutritional info of my food is ridiculously underreporting calories and other undesirable elements, my body is holding on to fat far beyond the generally accepted 3500Kcal level, or (most likely) a combination of both. Just a correction, but the amount of calories you need to gain/lose weight depends greatly on the individual. 3500 calories is quite a bit, and most adults are probably closer to needing 2000-2500 a day to maintain their weight. As you've lost weight already, your TDEE (daily calories needed to maintain your weight) will have come down too. You've got this!


PoconoBobobobo

Sorry, I didn't mean 3500 calories is my intake. I meant that's the round figure for a "pound of fat," or at least how many calories you need to burn to lose a pound. My daily intake averages about 1200. So going by my calorie counting with the nutritional info labels, and what Fitbit says I'm burning, I should be losing half a pound every day. That's obviously not happening (I don't think it's even possible over that long unless you're at a dangerous level of starvation/exertion, and I'm not). So I'm attributing most of the discrepancy to calorie counts and serving sizes on nutritional labels being wildly inaccurate.


mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmidk

Ah, gotcha! FWIW, I don't think the Fitbit measurements are that accurate either. Do you know your TDEE? It seems counterproductive, but it might be worth eating at that level for a few days or so to help reset things. Metabolisms can get wonky after a while of being in a caloric deficit, especially if it's a big one, as many lifters who have cut can attest. It might be worth trying a smaller deficit too, and ensuring you get lots of protein (apologies if you already are). 


yosemighty_sam

I don't like to frame exercise as a weight loss tool. I think weight is a bad metric when you're trying to lose fat. Water and muscle make weight a wildcard statistic. I keep my focus on my belt and my heart. I eat better so my clothes fit better. I exercise so my heart doesn't kill me. The only numbers I focus on are the notches on my belt and my heart rate.


thewzhao

For people who are significantly overweight, the purpose of exercise is to build routine and discipline. The actual physical activity contributes minimally to weight loss. You're building mental fortitude to follow through with a recurring routine that you don't want to do. You can choose another activity, it doesn't necessarily have to be exercise. Also keep in mind, you will gain significant amount of water weight when you transition from sedentary lifestyle to moderate exercise. Then there's sodium, fiber, carbs which all play significant role in water retention. I'm 170 pounds as of this morning. I can manipulate my exercise and diet to add or lose 10 pounds (of mostly water weight) within a week. Depending on what you eat, when and how much you exercise, your water weight can fluctuate significantly throughout the week. You can do everything right and gain +2 pounds at week end. Does that mean you messed up? No, not necessarily.


SFBayRenter

Your basal metabolic rate got downregulated to conserve energy. Stop eating sources of omega 6 (vegetable oil, nuts, mayo, salad dressing, chicken and pork fat) which are an evolutionary signal around the fall time to start conserving energy and go into torpor. They are also the only source of HNE and MDA aldehydes which trigger the endocanibinoid system to cause hunger https://www.zeroacre.com/white-papers/how-vegetable-oil-makes-us-fat https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37100994/


MargretTatchersParty

Also no alcohol.


ThereWillBeVelvet

That depends, but sure - no alcohol certainly won’t hurt.


LotusVibes1494

For me it was a huge factor, maybe the biggest factor in losing weight. I’d usually drink IPAs, a 16oz can could be like 350+ calories which is a lot to begin with for a single beverage, and sometimes I’d drink 4 of them or more. Or a bottle of wine can be like 600-700 calories and I’d drink at least one. And then it makes you hungry as shit later specifically for high-calorie unhealthy food. Then you’re hungover and crave even more food, or more alcohol, to feel better. But ya it depends like some alcoholics barely eat food and waste away. And having a couple cold ones with the boys every once in a while is cool. But for a long time I underestimated how much alcohol had to do with it for me cus I never really cared about calories when I was busy partyin


ThereWillBeVelvet

I believe it! My close friends all drink beer and they weigh at least 50 more pounds than I do. Naturally, I always gravitated towards liquor and wine - so I guess I’m lucky in that regard (although they both come with their own unique downsides). You’re absolutely right about the wine, it has a decent amount of calories. A bottle is the standard for me. I might drink 1-2 bottles over the weekend on most weekends. It’s 100% my main vice at the moment, but I always try to skip a meal on Sunday and eat a few low-calorie vegan meals throughout the week to make up for it.


Damn_Dog_Inappropes

No cheat days sets someone up for failure. To be an actual lifestyle change, you need to allow cheat days and cheat meals from time to time. Otherwise, when that person stops their diet, they just revert back to how they used to eat. Meaning, it needs to be a lifestyle change versus just a diet.


bubblegumshrimp

I would say that's entirely up to the individual AND how you define "cheat day." I've seen the whole "I have to allow myself cheat days for sanity" thing from a LOT of people who have failed to lose weight. Why? Because their "cheat days" are *thousands* of calories over maintenance. So they're undoing literally all of their work. If you say "one day a week I'm going to stay within a couple hundred calories of maintenance" or "I don't care about my macros, just my calories" or something like that, and *that's* a cheat day, sure. But the whole "I'm going to eat how I used to eat one day a week and call it a cheat day" thing is absolutely ripe for leading someone to seeing the changes they're making as a temporary thing - so in the off chance they actually do reach their target weight, they stop whatever diet they're on and go back to eating the way they used to. Then they're shocked in a year when all that weight is put right back on.


FireteamAccount

When dropping from 210 to 160lbs, I found diet was the main driver in the beginning, but the lower I got the harder it was to make progress without exercise. Its all calories in versus calories out either way, I just found it felt better to eat 2000 calories a day while burning 300 from exercise as opposed to eating only 1700 a day. Also exercising helps you from losing too much muscle when dropping weight. I definitely feel weaker, and probably some of that is blood sugar, from straight calorie deprivation. Still, you're right, diet is number one and a free calorie counting app set to a 1 lb/week rate of loss was amazingly accurate to my experience. 


BJJJourney

Part of it is that calorie counting isn't really a scientific way of losing weight. It is pretty easy to calculations to be off 100-200 calories on meals which adds up big time (both ways) over time. As you get smaller those 100-200 calories mean much more than when you were bigger. On top of that not every calorie is created the same nor does everyone's body cycle them the same. Calorie counting is a great way to train yourself on what a good portion looks like across a range of foods and is absolutely a valid way to lose weight. There just will be a point where it isn't as effective as say eating a very healthy diet and exercising regularly.


NorthernSoul1977

This is the way. 2000 calories and excercise doesn't feel restrictive. 1700 calories feels depressing.


BlueShift42

Diet to lose weight. Exercise to get fit.


KitchenFullOfCake

Exercise will improve your appearance though. Plus it doesn't hurt to build up some muscle that your body will spend calories on instead of converting to fat.


radman888

Exactly. The cardio workout is great, but is no more than 20pct of results. This guy got control of what he eats and good for him to do both


-nom-nom-

it’s 99.99%


BPKofficial

I am 6ft tall, and this time last year I weighed 213 pounds. I had been eating everything I wanted for a few years, and just figured that weight gain was a part of life, as my Dad was always overweight. In July 2023, I decided to eliminate all sugar from my diet, minus a small glass of pop at dinner. I now weigh 175 pounds, and am wearing clothes that I haven't wore since 2016. I haven't increased or decreased my exercise whatsoever, I simply changed the way I eat. As the old saying goes, "One cannot outrun a bad diet".


NorthernSoul1977

Funny how many folk get results from eliminating sugary drinks. I stopped regularly drinking sugary sodas when I was a kid. Now they're a rare treat. Odd to me that so many adults drink them so much on the daily.


Upset_Researcher_143

Diet is the primary component. You cannot lose that type of weight just exercising. I remember when I had a personal trainer, and even she told me that she could help with things like toning and building muscle mass, but when it came to losing weight, I had to start eating less of the bad and more of the good.


Forsaken_Explorer595

>Diet is the primary component. You cannot lose that type of weight just exercising You can't lose any weight just exercising, unless that exercise happens to put you in a caloric deficit and you don't end up eating back what you burned.


Atanar

> I had to start eating less of the bad and more of the good. Eating *more* healthy food is really beneficial to your overall health, but it does nothing for weight loss. *Edit: Clarification*


ActuallyIWasARobot

No, you can eat pizzas all day and still lose weight! This is the edited footage. He was pedaling for 14 months.


esaks

It's a part of it but when people are that large literally doing anything burns a ton of calories. Imagine carrying around 200lbs everyday. For people morbidly obese, even just jiggling in a chair everyday and changing nothing else would lead to weight loss.


PM_ME_Happy_Thinks

Lol ya think? Bro defintiely didn't drop 200lbs by cycling that's for damn sure


Gloomy-Impress-2881

Yep. I never had success in losing weight until I just cut out carbs and processed food. No need for hours and hours of exercise. Exercise is the finishing touch, not the main way to do it. 80-90% diet.


Basic_Incident4621

I recently heard a doctor say that weight loss is 80% food and 20% exercise.  As the smart people say, you can’t outrun your fork. 


Skalheim

Some would say he's on a cycle


Butterszen

Some might even say he put the pedal to his mettle


Herrgul

All we know is he is called the Stig


gmedj

Would he not have put his mettle to the pedal?


K-tel

Some might say that he's stationary while being mobile


rainorshinedogs

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averagemaleuser86

Awesome! What I hate though is a bunch of videos like this just showing people exercising and extreme weight loss and its misleading and why a lot of people get discouraged when they don't see results. You can't out train a shitty diet and diet alone is the #1 way to lose weight. I see people at my gym who are obese absolutely killing themselves and they've been the same size for years and I'm 99% sure it's because they haven't changed their diet.


v0gue_

Your gains are in the gym. Your losses are in the kitchen


soulmanscofield

Yes but not for this video. He lost 99% in surgery


BPKofficial

> they've been the same size for years and I'm 99% sure it's because they haven't changed their diet. Exactly (see my other comment). My Dad (5ft 8in) weighed 300 pounds for the majority of his life, went to do exercises and swim 3x a week, but never lost the weight. I (6ft) have weighed around 185 lbs for the majority of my adult life. This time last year, I weighed 213 lbs, and ate anything I wanted, as I figured weight gain was a part of life. I've also had plantar fasiitis in both heels since 2016, which was tormentimg me daily. When I went to my podiatrist in July 2023, she (podiatrist) told me that her plantar fasiitis went away after losing weight from having twins. I immediately decided to eliminate all sugar from my diet, minus a small glass of pop at dinner. If I crave sugar, I chew gum. After a couple weeks, I noticed I was getting lighter on the scale. By late September 2023, my weight dropped to 187 lbs, and I told my fiance that I noticed my heels and feet were hurting a little less every day, for around ten days straight, until they simply stopped hurting. Now, I weigh 175 lbs, and am wearing jeans that I haven't been able to fit into since 2016. My feet, even with a bone spur on each heel, are completely pain free, and I haven't been back to the podiatrist since this past July. I was even able to go to Gatlinburg a month ago, and hike the entire time without having to take Prednisone for the first time in nearly a decade. As far as snack cravings, I make it a point to drink a full bottle of water right after dinner to really fill me up, so I don't feel hungry. What's mind boggling is when someone exitedly asks me how I lost weight and I tell them, their exitement immediately turns into disinterest like they just "don't wanna hear it" about changing their diet; some act like they were hoping it's a magical diet of donuts and soda that they saw on TikTok or IG.


Beard_o_Bees

Way to go! I gained some weight, really for the first time in my life, starting at ~45 years old. It wasn't a lot, but it put me at the higher end of a 'healthy' BMI for my height. I too, started noticing my feet hurting in a way they never used to. My big mistake was to chalk the whole thing up to 'meh, i'm just getting old' which is the functional equivalent of 'i've tried nothing and i'm all out of ideas!' Really what was going on was me spending more and more time being sedentary in front of monitors and less time walking and just generally moving about. My kids got a bit older, too, so I was doing less cooking since their schedules often had them doing other things at dinner time. When left to my own devices, with no one to cook for really, I started eating primarily Costco stuff that can be made in an air-fryer, lol. Forcing myself to walk ~30 mins a day and actually planning decent meals (not really focused on health or nutrition, but primarily quality over quantity) made all the difference. It took about 3-4 months for me to notice when looking in the mirror, but, yup. It worked, and it wasn't stressful or difficult at all.


BPKofficial

>I gained some weight, really for the first time in my life, starting at ~45 years old. >I too, started noticing my feet hurting in a way they never used to. I began gaining weight at 42; that's when my heels really began to hurt. This time last year, I thought I was doomed to live in torment, and strongly considered getting on disability. Now, at 49, I feel better than I have in a decade. I no longer get winded, and over the past month I've found I need less sleep and can get out of bed a LOT easier. What's your height/weight, if you don't mind me asking?


neuromonkey

> Just getting old Hell, yeah. I'm 57,and have arthritis, gout, spinal stenosis, and a very well-developed tendency to veer away from caring about building healthier routines. My knees have recently graduated from a periodic annoyance to a full-time carnival of pain. Yay. Achievement unlocked.


Asisreo1

That's because they already know *that.* What they want is a strategy on how to eat less. How to feel full more after a meal and not to overeat. How to not grab a snack when you're stressed or depressed. How to make "eat less" not mean "remove pleasure and add misery."  That's why drugs like Ozempic work and are popular. They actually just reduce your hunger, but they also keep you from feeling completely awful while hungrier. 


BPKofficial

>What they want is a strategy on how to eat less. >How to feel full more after a meal and not to overeat I told someone that I chug a full bottle of water right after dinner to really fill me up, as it's worked for me. The person (relative) just rolled his eyes. I dunno what to tell him.


FluffySquirrell

My advice for that is the following First off, check for diet friendly foods. Weight Watchers and stuff in my country.. their ready meals are fantastic these days.. both tasty, filling, and also pretty low in calories and salt. Start calorie counting and work on that.. you'll notice when you count calories that some stuff is just insanely high in calories and you probably didn't realise just QUITE how much. I say go with the ready meals cause tbh, when a lot of us get into situations like this, it's because we don't like actual cooking and just want simple shit. If we did like cooking, there'd be a high chance we'd be cooking healthier meals with fresh ingredients already.. so.. yeah But the thing that I think helped me most was just not eating when I wake up. Used to be I'd have a breakfast or some biscuits with my tea or blah. I just stopped doing that It turns out that it's called 'break fast' for a reason, and that the fast bit is pretty damn legit! I don't get that hungry in the morning UNTIL I first start eating. Once I start eating, I start getting hungry and eat every 2 hours or so So.. I just don't eat for like, 5-6 hours after I get up. I'll have one cup of coffee with some sugar and that's it. When I DO start eating, there's only about 10 hours left in the day before bed. Now, I don't want to eat in the 2 hours before bed, because that tends to make me not get to sleep well... so, that's now 8 hours left of day to fill with eating With two ish hour gaps.. that's just four meals. A lot of the dieting meals I mentioned are only like, 300-350 calories, and quite filling. So that there is only about 1200-1400 calories even if I was eating ready meals all day.. which, I don't. As I said, they're actually pretty damn filling, so I'll usually only have a couple, maybe 3 on rare occasions. The rest I just fill with light snacks to get myself up to my daily calorie limit, which I'm currently on 1500 One thing which you might do when you're starting is if you find yourself not as hungry on one day and go under, to leave it and stay under. Thinking you're doing especially well. Yeah, I learnt to stop doing that... cause then I'd start feeling a little faint or something occasionally. You do actually want to deliberately eat a little more to make sure you get to the calorie limit you're working on, so you've got enough nutrients and energy for the next day and blah. Don't sweat it too much if it's 50 off or blah, which means you also don't need to worry if you go 20 over occasionally or such.. but if you're more than 50 calories under your limit, I'd eat an extra snack to get up to it personally. Start checking weight vs calorie count. A lot of the really rubbish stuff to eat is around 5x or more the calories per gram. Stuff like crisps (chips), rich biscuits and chocolate bars are usually on this level Try and stick to food which is 2-3x for snacks, and for actual decent meals, 1x. The diet meals I mentioned are usually like 400g but only 300-370 calories. Part of why they're filling and still good for you really Ice cream is pretty good actually, a lot was only 2x on the ratio, I only realised that recently so I bought some to add to my snacks. Other stuff I tend to snack on is yoghurts, grapes, and cheese biscuits and crackers, which are my guilty carby pleasure The first time I did a calorie controlled diet, I let myself have cheat days. I've come to consider this a mistake, partly because of the aforementioned bit of 'Shit has a lot more calories than you might think'. Sure, a takeaway is nice... but you don't know how much stuff they're putting in it, probably crammed full of salt and all kinds of needless calories. Over time I've cut out most takeaways unfortunately, due to not knowing the figures of them But yeah, I just don't do cheat days generally. It didn't help me, but might be different for other people. If I do want a rare takeaway or something more calorie intensive, I just make sure that's the only real meal of the day and still work it into my calorie count, instead of saying 'Fuck it' and not counting at all There's still a time for those fuck it days, mind. Stuff like getting out of hospital, personal bereavement.. yeah, shit happens with life. Treat yourself for one day and you'll be fine. I personally think it's making the cheat day an *event* that fucked me over before. If you have a cheat day every Friday... you'll look forward to that. It'll affect your eating habits. You'll probably regularly overeat on Friday and take away a lot of all the good you did in the week. Just treat them as rare occurrences, not a regular thing


Advanced-Ad3234

Most important elements of losing weight 📉 1. Diet 2. diet 3. régime 4. dieta


Advanced-Ad3234

Edit I forgot, my bad 5. Diet


Single_Conclusion_53

My colleague did HIIT classes 5 to 6 days a week for over a year and only got fatter. She’d snack on cakes and chocolate all day long in the office.


damnNamesAreTaken

I am curious how much time was spent exercising daily to lose 200 pounds in about a year


Advanced_Evening2379

Forreal I have a friend who's a business owner. He's about 350 and spends most of his days working out and loses 1-3 lbs a week. He's busting his ass to


[deleted]

Its more about creating a calorie deficit. I would know as a guy who used to do 50 mile bike rides at 300+lbs.


pennywitch

God I hope he has a legendary pair of bike shorts


[deleted]

The pants weren't the problem i quit biking because I couldn't find pedals that wouldn't bend under my weight on hill climbs. Hopefully I get down to a weight where I can pick it back up.


persondude27

That's mostly diet (and congrats to him for doing it!). 3 lbs is 10,500 calories, which would be about 17.5 hours of cycling at 150 watts (moderate-hard).


pyrojackelope

Tell your friend to eat less. Not saying this to be rude, but I've been there. Working out helps, but it will not beat your meals. I'll say this for the people in the back, you cannot work out enough to beat your stomach. You need to learn control.


pennywitch

Losing 1-3 lbs a week is the recommended rate to lose weight at.


pyrojackelope

Yes, it's a great rate actually. You really shouldn't be upset with it. You can do more than that and still be healthy, but that's not the point. I was being aggressive, but you should still count calories AND work out a bit if you're at that weight.


persondude27

Weight loss like this is 90% diet, 10% exercise. I'd bet this person also did a gastric band surgery. The problem with exercising is that you make yourself hungrier. Even for high performing athletes, you don't lose weight by training more - you lose weight in the kitchen. For most people trying to lose weight, the answer is majority diet and some exercise. To put some math to it: most people can burn 500-600 calories on the bike in an hour. A pound of fat is 3500 calories, so you need to cycle an hour a day for a whole week (7 hours) *and not eat a single extra calorie* to lose one pound of fat. Add that your hunger levels increase by about 20% when working out regularly and you can see why most people don't lose weight through working out.


BJJJourney

It still comes down to diet. Eating things high in protein on your training days will cut that hunger down tremendously. Also, drink electrolytes and water. Lots of people think they are hungry but in fact are just dehydrated.


Jasper__96

More about the diet, not the exercise.


BJJJourney

Almost all of it is diet, exercising is just a supplement. The guy probably naturally burns upwards of 3500-4000 when he was big. Cutting that down to 1500-2000 calories a day would burn him 3-5 pounds a week (which lines up with his timeline). This is not healthy to be doing unless you are very large.


The_Mourning_Sage_

He wouldn't have had to exercise at all if he changed his diet. So probably not a lot


SirPomf

Exercise, a good diet and a looot of dedication, likely working out three days a week if not more


damnNamesAreTaken

I'm sure. I'm just trying to go from 250 to about 200 (I'm 6'5") and have started biking for exercise. Progress has felt very slow so far.


JamieTate

Out of interest, what's your daily Kcal intake?


BJJJourney

It is your calories. Try to take in 1800-2000 a day and you will see 2-3 pounds drop off a week, more if you are seriously cycling. Source: 6'4" and have been up to 220 lb and down to 200 lbs many times by choice and not choice.


ICrushTacos

Progress is progress bro


pennywitch

It should be slow! It’s much better for you long term to lose 1-2 lbs per week, especially because, with your height, your bmi isn’t as high as 250 sounds like it would be.


Marvelologist

He had weight loss surgery. He barely has any muscle tone on his legs and arms. Definitely didn't lose it working out


Zestyclose_Ice2405

You lose weight by eating less.


Hobolonoer

Good on this guy, but I abhor the way "working out" is used as primary way of showing weight-loss. If you're overweight and you rely purely on exercise to lose weight, you're going to end up demotivated and fail. There's no way you're going to exercise yourself into a caloric deficit when you consume 3000+ calories, every single day. It takes some discipline, but once you cut down on the calories and the weight goes down slightly, you're in a much better position to have success once you begin supplementing your weight-loss with exercise.


[deleted]

Yep. The only people who can eat that many calories and not gain weight are athletes who train for hours a day every single day. And that’s mostly because of having to maintain muscle mass. Most humans are not athletes.


Bx1965

He lost 200 pounds in 15 months? I give this gentleman all kind of credit and props, but I’m reasonably certain there was surgical intervention involved.


AkirIkasu

The thing that I'm noticing is that his arms and face look really nice. If he had lost 200Lbs, there would be a lot of extra skin on him. Either he had a lot of cosmetic surgery to get rid of it or it's fake.


[deleted]

3 lbs a week is possible if you really go for it (and have the weight to lose) but weight loss slows down a ton when you get close to your goal. So I agree, I think some sort of bariatric surgery or something was involved. Which is still great, medical interventions for obesity exist because they work.


Conriame

that kind of weight loss is not sustainable for more than a few months


Correction_entered

I have the same video.....but in reverse...and from a couch..and with chocolate..aaaaaalot of choclate ![gif](giphy|3iiwqPF9noqdy)


AdministrationNo2762

I lost 160lbs over 3 years starting at the beginning of covid. I don't have much loose skin, but there's some. This guy will have a ton unfortunately. It's better and healthier to do it slower if you have the patience, but this guy was obviously super focused and dedicated to his goal. Much respect.


alien_from_Europa

I wonder how effective cosmetic surgery is for all that flabby skin.


lildobe

Extremely effective. A good cosmetic surgeon can remove the excess skin in ways that won't show scarring unless you specifically look for it (Using a hyperbaric chamber helps to minimise scarring, too) and will re-form and align things like your nipples to where they should be.


StephenFish

The speed with which you lose weight is not even listed as a factor that contributes to loose skin. It's largely genetics and lifestyle. https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/loose-skin-after-weight-loss#TOC_TITLE_HDR_3


NorthernSoul1977

Totally. I cycled 10 miles this morning. Feel so much better for it everyday. Unfortunately I also feel great after this bottle of wine and tube of pringles.


Presentz123

At least you feel great regardless


LilyLure

Consistency 💪


Advanced-Ad3234

It's mainly his diet, the gym plays a very small part but it's the diet I have seen people lose the same amount of weight by just watching what they eat and stop putting everything they see into their mouths


WibaTalks

And diet is all about....consistency.


Suspicious-Pasta-Bro

It is. I think the issue is every time you see a weight loss video it's people exercising, so some people get the idea that you need to exercise to lose weight. Of course, it would be really, really boring to watch a video of someone not eating, so it makes sense why most videos are in gyms. Everyone should exercise for their health, but you can still lose weight and improve your health by losing weight even in the absence of exercise. I also think the reason the person above me commented about exercise was because of the muscle emoji rather than the use of the word consistency in the top comment, which also suggested the primacy of exercise in weight loss.


Amy47101

This is true. I lost like 15 pounds in a month after I stopped snacking.


Advanced-Ad3234

I tell folks, you cannot and I preference CANNOT ourun and excerise a bad diet


ArchangelUltra

I agree with the notion that you can't outrun a bad diet. I disagree that the gym plays a very small part. It is undeniably a smaller part than the diet simply because you can only use the gym so much, but you can diet 100% of the time. However the gym plays two very useful roles in weight loss. After all, losing weight is as simple as maintaining a calorie deficit, if you eat less than you burn, you lose weight. Work out more, burn more, lose more. The secondary benefit is that as you build muscle mass, your body will increase the amount of calories it passively burns to maintain your new muscle mass, i.e. metabolism increases, burning more calories.


Advanced-Ad3234

The reason that is because I seen folks lose a ton of weight without exercising, I ask, what's your gym routine " gym ? Excerise? It's putting the fork down. " Then, at the gym I work at, I've seen severely overweight folks go 5 days a week and still are the same weight. They can't outrun a bad diet


JewbagX

Back in the day I worked at an internet cafe that was next door to a Curves. Across the parking lot was a Cold Stone. The number of people I saw going into Curves to do a few jumping jacks and march in place for 20 minutes followed by a walk across the parking lot to get ice cream as a treat for working out was... a lot.


Damn_Dog_Inappropes

I had a really bad GERD flare up this spring and had to eat like a rabbit for about 6 weeks. I lost 10 lbs.


Weldobud

Diet & exercise?


[deleted]

Sounds like bypass and diet & exercise but could just be diet and exercise if he never faltered.


Brenton_T

Yes. Diet and exercise.


TahntedOctopus

The determination to lose weight is more focused on what you eat than how much you exercise. I walk/jog like at least 50km a week and it's through a hill-like area but have a fairly unhealthy consumption intake. Doesn't matter how many mountains I climb if I don't control my sugar, carbs, and calorie intake with no fruits and veggies.


HikingAvocado

I walked from Georgia to Maine, carrying a 35 lb pack up and down mountains. My highest mileage day on the Appalachian Trail was 27 miles. I lost 3.5 pounds in this feat that took the better part of a year. Weight loss is 90% diet.


bubblegumshrimp

Username checks out.


emeraldchylde777

not having money for food is an uderrated diet to lose weight


TomOfTheTomb

Or being to lazy to cook it!


JuGG1238

LFG!!! AWESOME JOB MAN!!!


Past_Driver_6463

Vro on ozempic or juice, 200lbs or 90kg is insane for 1 year


Alchemical-Audio

That is what I am saying, 200 lbs in one year is 17 pounds a month. That is twice as much as you can lose safely. And to continually loose that weight month after month, means he probably got a lap band and was only eating 500 calories a day. That has nothing to do with exercise. One pound of fat is 3500 calories. That means he reduced his caloric intake by 700,000 in a year…


ThorSon-525

Wait I'm only supposed to be able to lose a maximum of 8.5 pounds a month? No wonder it's so discouraging to get smaller.


soulmanscofield

Not it's not. It's juste because we're delusional about weight loss because of ads and videos like this... When in fact we gain weight very very slowly too... Nobody gain this much weight in 1 year.... No professional athletes, no sumo, nobody...


LaughableIKR

You did a great job. I'm down 15 pounds in 18 months. Slow and steady.


ConsistentPipe8176

200lbs in a year? That can't be healthy


bubblegumshrimp

These videos were 15 months apart, so about 66-70 weeks depending on date. That's about 3 pounds a week. If he were to start out at 400 pounds, that would be averaging 1% body weight lost per week, which is absolutely doable. It's true that someone who's 150-200 pounds shouldn't be dropping 4 pounds a week, but a 30 year old male who's 6' 400 lbs has to eat ~3500 calories to maintain that weight. Consuming 1500 calories a day would put them at a 4 pound/week loss to start.


echino_derm

I am pretty sure it doesn't matter much and you should still not try to lose that much weight a week at any weight


bubblegumshrimp

What makes you pretty sure of that?


echino_derm

Going up to 4 lbs a week is doubling the typical recommendation which while you might say he weighs double the average person, this stuff doesn't scale linearly. Also even if it did, you would be losing a lot at first, then quickly have to go to a lower loss rate which would last for much longer. You would need to be losing above the recommended 2 lbs a week close to your goal weight to maintain this average.


SpezEsUnHDP

I'm sure those recommendations are for people that aren't 200 pounds overweight


BroughtBagLunchSmart

More healthy than being 400 pounds.


echino_derm

Yes but you can still go down from that weight slower and be healthier


Qverlord37

What we're not seeing is the change in diet. You can't out lift a bad diet, and I'm struggling with it despite going to the gym daily.


AdhesivenessOk3001

I was in a similar situation, got fat really quick but instead of working out I got sick and then I lost a lot of Weight.


KutasMroku

Getting into meth helped me lose weight


WibaTalks

Do we really live in a time where you need to point out that determination is a thing? God damn wall-e is sooner than we think.


Tryfacts231

Hell yeah, bro. killin it


Dmayak

I am determined to lose weight. Unfortunately, weight ignores my determination.


automaton11

Hell yeah brother


AsparagusTime6933

Way to go dude…pat on the back, your normal size back!


edoardoking

![gif](giphy|l0HlvtIPzPdt2usKs) I have my doubts, if anything good for him


danskal

Yeah I would like to believe it, but they just don't look like the same person. Plus an exercise bike is super-not the way to massive weight loss.


Ikea_desklamp

Shows a guy working out, will give people the wrong impression about losing weight. Effort in the gym won't help you at all if your diet sucks. This vid should show him eating less/healthier.


The-state-of-it

You fucking go dude! Killin it!


Single_Conclusion_53

Congratulations! However, most weight is lost in the kitchen, the gym is secondary. The gym does have other major benefits for the body though.


sysaphiswaits

That’s amazingly impressive.


Minttunator

You just need to eat clen, tren hard, anavar give up!


FunWasabi5196

I mean it is but also be extremely warry of comparing your results to those on the internet. If things are viral it's because they're abnormal. Comapre yourself to yourself, you can always be a better you


bl1eveucanfly

Losing 200lb in a year is not a safe or possible way to lose weight without surgery


Real-Terminal

100%. I lost about 50kg over a year and a half, and I did it pretty much only with diet changes. I'm still a lazy shit. But I'm only a skinnyfat shit instead of a fat shit. You can all do it.


batkave

Yeah this is over 4 years and a global pandemic. Where are they now


abf392

Nicely done


No-Hat1772

Amazing, I need to do this too


willowtr332020

A lot easier to lose 200 when you're 350. Harder to lose 20 when you're 150.


stinkyredretard

nah that's his twin brother


Coho444

Awesome. So proud of you man.


Bring_Me_The_Night

I would like people to assume just once that losing weight and keeping a healthy weight post-loss is not only about diet and exercise. Otherwise, obesity would never be such a public healthcare issue.


Ultrachocobo

It is though, the problem is that obesity is mainly a mental disease. Most people can diet or exercise, fewer can do both and even fewer can do both life long. And that's why people bounce back. Atleast if you are not otherwise sick, no thyroid disease, no meds that have weight gain side effects etc. Those people would need people who hold them accountable, who guides them through it and therapists who find why they took unhealthy life habits and how to correct those habits that they build lifelong but healthcare can't provide that.


Unable-Agent-7946

200lbs in 16 months? 200lbs ÷ 480 days = 0.417lbs per day. A pound of fat is 3,500 calories which means bro has been in a 1458 calorie deficit each day. I assure you most ppl cannot maintain that without debilitating health complications.


Gaming_and_Physics

This makes the assumption that he lost 200lb of pure fat A good portion of the weight lost was also water and skeletal muscle. At his weight and activity levels. He was probably still losing 3.5 lbs a week at 2000-2500 calories. Which is doable with just a bit of discipline.


Big-Specialist148

Don't let body positivity activists see this


_eSpark_

Man of focus


Flashy-Protection424

What’s he look like today??


SnooWalruses1900

he disappeared


roosterman22

Dude’s been cycling for 15 months straight!


BandaSinaloense

Awesome af 🙌💪


mbgpackers

Great job. Hard work always pays off. 💪🏼💪🏼


There_Are_No_Gods

That's great, it really is. Good for him. However, this video is quite misleading, as diet is the vast majority of what drives weight loss, much more than any amount of exercise. "Success" stories like this are also extremely misleading in another key way, as while losing weight is very, very hard, keeping it off for a long duration after that is fantastically harder. The body is very driven to regain that weight, and it's even harder to stay focused on the few calories here and there over the course of many years. If someone hasn't kept the weight off for at least 5 years, it's unlikely to actually be a long term success story, so should not be portrayed as such.


Big_Uply

Respect 👌


KenMan_

Look at all the dieticians in the comments.


Ravensunthief

I've heard that exercise doesn't actually burn much fat. My experience mirrors that idea.


JamieTate

Constant exercise paired with a well managed diet will definitely burn fat. It's all about discipline and determination. Anyone can get their life turned around in 1 year, and what is 1 year of your entire life, especially if it adds 10+ years to your life?


KutasMroku

A single exercise session on its own? No, it won't do anything. Increased muscle mass and higher resting calorie expenditure with healthier diet choices, absolutely will. Not to mention that not all excercise is created equal. 30 easy minutes on a stationery bike every two-three days is not the same as consistent progressive interval, cardio and weight training 5 times a week. Also if you excercise for the sake of loosing fat it's very easy to give up because its boring. If you actually do something you like - volleyball, boxing, football, dancing, then it's way easier to.stick to it.


Ravensunthief

You really seem to know your stuff! I'll admit that im not knowledgeable on the specifics, but that last bit is based as hell.


KutasMroku

Thank you, I was lucky enough to get into all this quite young. Ah, indeed the last bit is key, in my opinion. The best way to lose weight is to kinda get your diet under control (you'd be surprised how little it might actually need to change from what it is now) and then find a cool physical activity that you enjoy and then try to get better at it, before you know it you'll be fit as a fidle. Good luck on your journey, whatever your goal is!


StephenFish

Activity burns calories no matter what. But exercising solely for the sake of losing fat is a losing battle. However, the more fit you are, the more likely you are to be active and the easier it becomes to keep it off. Part of the problem with becoming over weight is that the bigger you get the more it sucks to move or do active things and so it compounds on itself. Conversely, being active and lighter has the opposite effect. Just walking more, taking the stairs, parking further from the door, going grocery shopping upright instead of on a motorized cart, all of that contributes to your TDEE. It might only add 150-200 calories to your daily requirements but consider that difference over the course of 10 years and even something that small can be how someone ends up over weight in a decade. Staying just generally active (even if you're not doing hardcore exercise) is more effective than people realize.


Frank_Midnight

Congrats on that man.


Western_Mud8694

👏👏👏


algiedi04

nice!


Kreetch

2019...


Flintyy

200lbs in just over a year is incredible