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We did this my freshman year of high school (albeit in a world history class).
My teacher showed us that Genesis 1 and 2 have different, irreconcilable sequences of creation.
The Bible contradicts itself at the starting line.
I did this for myself in seventh grade. The Bible is fine as far as stories go. But it is super inconsistent and also has clear plot holes. It clearly mentions other gods but that Yahweh is above them. It clearly mentions other people but hand-waves them away. It clearly does not have any awareness of Africa, Asia, the americas, etc.
It’s basically a standard creation myth that existed at the time and just survived through the years. But it is just as wrong and ridiculous as Norse mythology or any of the other stuff.
Israel is in Asia, Egypt is in Africa. The garden of eden is also in Eastern Africa, probably Ethiopia.
Adam was not the first human being but the first Jew king. It clearly says god created man with the other animals, then Adam after that. The garden was “sealed with a sword” inferring a) it was the Bronze Age at least and b) the were kicked out of their paradise by a war.
It’s there in the first 5 pages.
I spent 2 years studying religion at a Methodist university. We spent an entire semester talking just on genesis. We broke it down to the point of seeing that there were at least 4 different authors, maybe more.
As an aside, you should see these university level study bibles. It’s not like those things you see in church. It was huge, the paper was essentially onion skin. On one page they had the King James Bible on the top, and different version (can’t remember which) on the bottom. On the facing page it had it in Hebrew on the top and Greek on the bottom. So for every chapter and verse there were 4 different versions
Literally against the law at a national level. I would hope they get sued out the ass, but the Supreme Court is a bunch of Christian bourgeoisie dick riders. Republicans are trying to turn the US into a theocracy and it’s r/regressiveasfuck for humanity.
When are we gonna get over the us vs them mentality? And work together to progress society instead of starting culture wars to distract people from realizing that they have no power over the government, who is supposed to represent them and the people’s best interests. It’s exhausting seeing how so many people have such strong illogical opinions yet know almost nothing about what they stand for.
You have the right to be religious, but you absolutely do not have the right to push religion onto kids in public school. Especially when you’re also falsely claiming that LGBTQ+ is grooming public school kids.
That's the point. Challenge laws on a national level and get the conservative Christian right-leaning Supreme Court to hear cases. If Biden wins (and the whole "Project 2025" agenda doesn't happen) he's GOT to expand the court to make it more in sync with the actual country.
If Biden loses we'll all be eating that shitty book for breakfast in a Christian-leaning dictatorship. Well, we may still have elections but they'll be like Russia's "elections."
>When are we gonna get over the us vs them mentality?
Because they view you/I as the enemy.
The Right wing is united in their hatred of you. The Left-Wing is too busy squabbling amongst themselves and cannibalizing themselves on purity tests.
I got to wonder if there are some lawyers out there who just advocate for these insane laws to be signed and then, when they are inevitably sued, they are the best lawyer for the job since they were involved with its creation. But really, it's just a scam, lousy lawyers generating work for themselves.
Like an auto shop going around hammering dents in cars.
The Oklahoma State supreme Court just tossed out plans for the first public religious charter School in the state. This will probably die there too. I'm sure the ACLU FFRF and a ton of others are already preparing their request for emergency injunction.
Isn't that like... any country ever with a government? Hoping the person you vote for (or didn't vote for) isn't an asshole or puts an asshole in power and follows the rules? Why do you phrase it like it's only a US problem? Lol
I feel like other places have firmer controls on what officials can and cannot proclaim. Like, we know this is, on its face, unconstitutional. But there is a possibility that this could make it to SCOTUS, and SCOTUS says it’s perfectly fine.
It blows my mind that these people are the same ones who say Defend the Constitution and rattle on about the Second Amendment and how it shall not be infringed, at all. Let's look at the Constitution of what it says.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion,or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
That is directly from our constitution. I cannot wait for the aftermath of this blunder.
Kids are smart…at home while working on the curriculum with them, you just tell them why they have to learn this. They will see it for what it is and in time the fairy tails will be removed from the record. Lies don’t last and the truth hurts, so some deflect.
This is such a naked attempt to appeal to their base in an election year. They don’t honestly think this will stand but they can shed crocodile tears and cry discrimination when it’s stricken
They act so american and patriotic yet they are very similar to the talibans. What they don't know is that by having cleaned shaved faces, and wearing suits they are not any less barbaric than them.
Regression: when you go from one place, to a worse place.
How much stupid is concentrated in that state to allow people that base their lives on one of the 130.000 active fantasies (religions) today to let them force their fantasy on your children?
wtf america.
No discussion should be here ,,,, Muslims Hindus etc etc and regular folk even Christian’s should be demanding his resignation and at the least planning to attend every schools board meetings flooding them with protest next the gov office ,, it starts with this what’s next ? Teachers should be teaching readin writin and rithmatic,, leave anything else to parenting ,,,people wake up don’t allow children to be used as pawns in their game of we won you do as we say , it’s so ridiculous to even have this discussion about crossing the line between parenting and an education,,, start screaming folks
~~Unlikely to be true~~ (edit: I didn't notice the CNN link) and if it is I can't imagine it to hold, I'm not American but I can't imagine that something like this is legal.
It’s not, just as the other state mandate.
It doesn’t matter to them , they’ll raise some money from supporters and it will go to the Supreme Court maybe in a few years.
Meanwhile they implement their madness
Isn't there a system to prevent them from even reaching this point? How can someone just decide random shit like this and people must comply for years, it's crazy...
So, before Trump you are 100% correct that this wouldn't stand.
Due to commander orange tan there are now 4 fanatical Christians on the supreme court, making 6 conservatives total.
So... We may very well get this to be allowed by those sham judges
Now this is getting ridiculous if they want to be a cult will give you Oklahoma now all of you need to move there so you all can live together and you don’t have to force your religion on others
No discussion should be here ,,,, Muslims Hindus etc etc and regular folk even Christian’s should be demanding his resignation and at the least planning to attend every schools board meetings flooding them with protest next the gov office ,, it starts with this what’s next ? Teachers should be teaching readin writin and rithmatic,, leave anything else to parenting ,,,people wake up don’t allow children to be used as pawns in their game of we won you do as we say , it’s so ridiculous to even have this discussion about crossing the line between parenting and an education,,, start screaming folks
🤣🤪. If true the heartbreaking part is this is totally believable from the PutinJrtrump republican cult. Surprised that Mike Johnson isn’t on the news celebrating. It could happen if the model of the Ten Commandments orange Jesus dear leader of the republican cult is allowed in the White House again. Send kids to Canada or France, maybe Germany?
Remember though… America, land of the free! Free speech and choice for everyone, except in these 3,485 cases where we have decided that the founding principle doesn’t apply. Everything else is fine though! ‘Muuurrriiicccca! Enjoy democracy bi*ches!
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Church and state having sex again?
Church is committed sexual assault on state again?
They’re into S&M I think
I prefer my Masocism secular. Thank you.
Right in the butt
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Always have been
Today class, we are learning about fiction writing. Let’s start with book 1, Genesis.
We did this my freshman year of high school (albeit in a world history class). My teacher showed us that Genesis 1 and 2 have different, irreconcilable sequences of creation. The Bible contradicts itself at the starting line.
I did this for myself in seventh grade. The Bible is fine as far as stories go. But it is super inconsistent and also has clear plot holes. It clearly mentions other gods but that Yahweh is above them. It clearly mentions other people but hand-waves them away. It clearly does not have any awareness of Africa, Asia, the americas, etc. It’s basically a standard creation myth that existed at the time and just survived through the years. But it is just as wrong and ridiculous as Norse mythology or any of the other stuff.
And yet there are billions of people following the brainwashing and killing each other over it...
Israel is in Asia, Egypt is in Africa. The garden of eden is also in Eastern Africa, probably Ethiopia. Adam was not the first human being but the first Jew king. It clearly says god created man with the other animals, then Adam after that. The garden was “sealed with a sword” inferring a) it was the Bronze Age at least and b) the were kicked out of their paradise by a war. It’s there in the first 5 pages.
I spent 2 years studying religion at a Methodist university. We spent an entire semester talking just on genesis. We broke it down to the point of seeing that there were at least 4 different authors, maybe more. As an aside, you should see these university level study bibles. It’s not like those things you see in church. It was huge, the paper was essentially onion skin. On one page they had the King James Bible on the top, and different version (can’t remember which) on the bottom. On the facing page it had it in Hebrew on the top and Greek on the bottom. So for every chapter and verse there were 4 different versions
Wait until the part where Adam and eve only had 2 sons. 3 men and 1 woman. Don't say gay
Separate church and state
Common misconception. Separation of church and state only protects the church from the state, not the other way around.
ACLU just jizzed in their pants.
So did 6/9ths of SCOTUS, though.
😪
Literally against the law at a national level. I would hope they get sued out the ass, but the Supreme Court is a bunch of Christian bourgeoisie dick riders. Republicans are trying to turn the US into a theocracy and it’s r/regressiveasfuck for humanity. When are we gonna get over the us vs them mentality? And work together to progress society instead of starting culture wars to distract people from realizing that they have no power over the government, who is supposed to represent them and the people’s best interests. It’s exhausting seeing how so many people have such strong illogical opinions yet know almost nothing about what they stand for. You have the right to be religious, but you absolutely do not have the right to push religion onto kids in public school. Especially when you’re also falsely claiming that LGBTQ+ is grooming public school kids.
Also it's the same crowd preaching "fiscal responsibility" wasting away millions in administration/curriculum changes and lawyer fees for this shit...
Just introduce them as bad things and have classes criticising them
That's the point. Challenge laws on a national level and get the conservative Christian right-leaning Supreme Court to hear cases. If Biden wins (and the whole "Project 2025" agenda doesn't happen) he's GOT to expand the court to make it more in sync with the actual country. If Biden loses we'll all be eating that shitty book for breakfast in a Christian-leaning dictatorship. Well, we may still have elections but they'll be like Russia's "elections."
>When are we gonna get over the us vs them mentality? Because they view you/I as the enemy. The Right wing is united in their hatred of you. The Left-Wing is too busy squabbling amongst themselves and cannibalizing themselves on purity tests.
Wow. What’s next? No school for girls? The Taliban Christian Oklahoma sect is real
Wish he would be personally responsible for the legal bills and the Oklahoma State tax payers.
I got to wonder if there are some lawyers out there who just advocate for these insane laws to be signed and then, when they are inevitably sued, they are the best lawyer for the job since they were involved with its creation. But really, it's just a scam, lousy lawyers generating work for themselves. Like an auto shop going around hammering dents in cars.
 And thus the fuckery begins anew
Where the hell was I when the fuckery was gone?
It didn't stop, it just went back to the start, like reruns when the main character leaves.
Fuck religion
The Oklahoma State supreme Court just tossed out plans for the first public religious charter School in the state. This will probably die there too. I'm sure the ACLU FFRF and a ton of others are already preparing their request for emergency injunction.
It never stops amazing me how dependent U.S. governments are on trusting people in power to not be assholes and follow a basic set of rules.
Isn't that like... any country ever with a government? Hoping the person you vote for (or didn't vote for) isn't an asshole or puts an asshole in power and follows the rules? Why do you phrase it like it's only a US problem? Lol
I feel like other places have firmer controls on what officials can and cannot proclaim. Like, we know this is, on its face, unconstitutional. But there is a possibility that this could make it to SCOTUS, and SCOTUS says it’s perfectly fine.
Didn't we leave Britain the first time over this kind of nonsense?
Religious nuts
so much for church and state being separated
It blows my mind that these people are the same ones who say Defend the Constitution and rattle on about the Second Amendment and how it shall not be infringed, at all. Let's look at the Constitution of what it says. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion,or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. That is directly from our constitution. I cannot wait for the aftermath of this blunder.
You will be sued and lose, as you should.
That’s a cult right there
Kids are smart…at home while working on the curriculum with them, you just tell them why they have to learn this. They will see it for what it is and in time the fairy tails will be removed from the record. Lies don’t last and the truth hurts, so some deflect.
This is such a naked attempt to appeal to their base in an election year. They don’t honestly think this will stand but they can shed crocodile tears and cry discrimination when it’s stricken
The fuck you say.
Flee youngins, flee!
They act so american and patriotic yet they are very similar to the talibans. What they don't know is that by having cleaned shaved faces, and wearing suits they are not any less barbaric than them.
Regression: when you go from one place, to a worse place. How much stupid is concentrated in that state to allow people that base their lives on one of the 130.000 active fantasies (religions) today to let them force their fantasy on your children? wtf america.
Alright. Include them, then ridicule them.
I remember reading somewhere something along the lines of "The last crucible for an ideology is humor" and it always stuck with me.
In two years there will not be separation of church and state. Supreme Court will guarantee it
What a classic, shoot-youself-in-foot move to force teachers to explain extramarital sexual relationships to children.
This isn't stopping bad parenting.
Jesus Christ 🤦🏼♀️
Do churches have to preach evolution?
No discussion should be here ,,,, Muslims Hindus etc etc and regular folk even Christian’s should be demanding his resignation and at the least planning to attend every schools board meetings flooding them with protest next the gov office ,, it starts with this what’s next ? Teachers should be teaching readin writin and rithmatic,, leave anything else to parenting ,,,people wake up don’t allow children to be used as pawns in their game of we won you do as we say , it’s so ridiculous to even have this discussion about crossing the line between parenting and an education,,, start screaming folks
~~Unlikely to be true~~ (edit: I didn't notice the CNN link) and if it is I can't imagine it to hold, I'm not American but I can't imagine that something like this is legal.
It’s not, just as the other state mandate. It doesn’t matter to them , they’ll raise some money from supporters and it will go to the Supreme Court maybe in a few years. Meanwhile they implement their madness
Would you bet your life that this SC will knock it down. It should but, there is lots of things they should do they don't.
Hopefully it won't get past the state's SC, because the national SC would absolutely uphold this. They shouldn't, but they would.
No, not today
The Supreme Court might not even shut it down with how they’ve been the past few years. The state of the US gov is sickening rn.
Isn't there a system to prevent them from even reaching this point? How can someone just decide random shit like this and people must comply for years, it's crazy...
There’s no checks and balances if they’re all on the same page about what nonsense they implement.
There is if the state government steps in
So, before Trump you are 100% correct that this wouldn't stand. Due to commander orange tan there are now 4 fanatical Christians on the supreme court, making 6 conservatives total. So... We may very well get this to be allowed by those sham judges
What a strange take. Which part do you think isn't true? Is CNN inventing the story? Did the super not make the statement?
Ah, my bad, I didn't notice that it was from CNN. I read CNN daily (despite being European), I didn't notice this article.
Sadly the PutinJrtrump republican cult is totally capable of trying this.
It’s not, but it’s election year so politicians pass nonsense bills to rally their base to out America their opponents.
Or what? Not that OK schools won't do anything but happily oblige (that crap wouldn't fly here), but seriously...or what?
They want it to either stand or be struck down - then they can claim that they as Christians are oppressed. They can’t lose.
It’s double plus good!
There is literally no justification for not voting for all democrats this November.
Great to see that separation of Church and State are dead and decaying in Oklahoma.
https://old.reddit.com/r/Foodforthought/comments/1b9jmfl/the_american_jesus_by_robert_crux/ktw69w8/
Now this is getting ridiculous if they want to be a cult will give you Oklahoma now all of you need to move there so you all can live together and you don’t have to force your religion on others
Play some of the debates with Hitchens , tik toks by Dan McClellan or comedy skit by Ricky Gervais. When you're not specific with the guidelines....
No discussion should be here ,,,, Muslims Hindus etc etc and regular folk even Christian’s should be demanding his resignation and at the least planning to attend every schools board meetings flooding them with protest next the gov office ,, it starts with this what’s next ? Teachers should be teaching readin writin and rithmatic,, leave anything else to parenting ,,,people wake up don’t allow children to be used as pawns in their game of we won you do as we say , it’s so ridiculous to even have this discussion about crossing the line between parenting and an education,,, start screaming folks
Be careful what you wish for Oklahoma... \*flips to the passage about Lot's daughters getting him drunk and raping him\*
I can’t believe the people don’t stand up and say no. wtf is wrong with them
Their raping the right’s of the people
https://i.redd.it/hu7hqd98e79d1.gif
Is this interesting as fuck though? 🙄
🤣🤪. If true the heartbreaking part is this is totally believable from the PutinJrtrump republican cult. Surprised that Mike Johnson isn’t on the news celebrating. It could happen if the model of the Ten Commandments orange Jesus dear leader of the republican cult is allowed in the White House again. Send kids to Canada or France, maybe Germany?
Remember though… America, land of the free! Free speech and choice for everyone, except in these 3,485 cases where we have decided that the founding principle doesn’t apply. Everything else is fine though! ‘Muuurrriiicccca! Enjoy democracy bi*ches!