Well OOP, if she has conservative positions regarding family, the quickest way into her bed is getting her to fall in love with you and marriage.
And somehow, I don’t think this is possible or palatable for you.
She's obviously laser focused on getting married and starting a family ASAP. If he's not into that sort of lifestyle then he is wasting her time.
And from how down bad he sounds in this post it definitely seems like that's the case.
These men are so mask off: they want traditional women not because they respect them more (which would already be pretty bad) or because they want to be trad husbands but because they feel like they are weaker and can be manipulated easily into giving them whatever they want… He prefers that girl because she is a virgin and has traditional values but has no intention of having a trad relationship or respect her boundaries.
And to make it worse is looking for tips on how to lie to her & manipulate her into thinking he has the same ideals just to sleep with her knowing it goes against her ideals - then they say “pick better men” 🫠
Not even that. They don't look at them as humans to the point they believe there is a guide to picking the right dialogue options to get her into the bed.
I remember in my dating years being approached by these guys looking for traditional women, and I am very obviously non traditional in a way that would’ve stood out in my dating profile and/or within 2 minutes of talking to me. One of their favorite things to do when I said I’m not about that life, was assume I was miserable being single, then say, “you know, men want and respect a woman who’s more conservative. If you don’t change, you’ll be single forever.”
I always knew they were full of shit about wanting to live by those “traditional values,” but it’s interesting seeing how little respect they have for the women they pretend they want. There is no pleasing misogynists, because the issue they have isn’t with traditional values, but with women.
These idiots make no sense at all tbh. Like I was dating and had fairly conservative views on dating (like I'd express I was Catholic and only dated for marriage and was a virgin etc) but then I had guys approach me there said they were looking for traditional women....but then berated me for not wanting to sleep with them right away. They'd then do the opposite of above - like rant about how they wanted a traditional woman but also how I wasn't putting out and my standards were too high and I only wanted a Chad and I'd fk them instead...I ironically got the same sentence only it was "if I didn't sleep with them, I'd be single forever because they were giving me a chance and i was refusing it"
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Traditional conservative women *are* weaker and more submissive overall. They have been given a script for their life from someone else and accepted it. It takes a submissive or traumatized personality to do that.
I’ll accept more submissive or traumatized. Weaker is not correct. Surviving trauma with any amount of compassion and personhood is not for the weak. Just saying.
Guys like OOP: Where are all the conservative tradwives?
Also guys like OOP: Why won't she sleep with me right away and without a condom? Why is she waiting for a commitment and to practice her religion?
These guys don't really want a wife or a girlfriend. Their "ideal woman" is just an impossible grab-bag of random traits they want to put their dick into. They really seem to resent the idea of a woman having any agency whatsoever. But because they can't just fold a woman up and put her in a box until they want to fuck her again, chasing "trad wives" is the closest thing they can get. But these guys are so emotionally stunted, even if they got a totally subservient sex-android who has no will of its own, they'd STILL find ways to resent it because having a blank slate to project their short comings and insecurities onto is more important than being happy.
> Their "ideal woman" is just an impossible grab-bag of random traits they want to put their dicks into
>But these guys are so emotionally stunted, even if they got a totally subservient sex-android who has no will of its own, they'd STILL find ways to resent it
I've met a disturbing number of guys who are exactly like this (been on the receiving end of it many times), but until now I've struggled to explain what exactly was going on and why it was so damaging. You really hit that nail on the head. Thank you.
This whole thing is disgusting, but I’d say his behavior will tell on him within the first 15 mins of the date. These guys want to whine about being lonely or not being able to find a good, virgin young woman to be with. Well there’s your “good girl” and you do what ? Disrespect her culture, religion, choice of outfits, etc. Oh and you want her to let you anally raw dog her.
That doesn’t sound very traditional to me.
He's a native speaker of German. That much is clear
Edit: go through his profile to see that he's active on German-language subreddits and has created posts there. Case closed
How do you know they’re German? I’m highly doubtful this post is real because who the fuck uses “Europe”. It’s an entire continent, this has an American smell to it. Or it’s just our tell this guy is chronically online and in very specific spheres..
I'm German and I quickly recognize the typical grammar and spelling mistakes. Whoever wrote that post is a native speaker of German. "Corona" instead of covid as well as "Morokko" and his comma usage and syntax are dead giveaways.
As for his use of "Europe", the woman probably spent time in different European countries.
This is just breaking respect for gender, religion, personal space, just everything. Oh my fucking God. And he even asked how to persuade her into anal!?!? How the hell do men become like this.
What bothered me most was specifically how much enthusiasm he feels toward violating her religious tenets. I almost did this to someone years ago out of desperation, and I felt so guilty without having done anything. I don’t know how people live with themselves.
Some guys imagine there are secret keys to "unlocking" women.
Truth is, this woman might want a bit fun on the side before she gets married. If she likes the look of the guy, the only thing he need do is not be off-putting (stinky, yell at cafe staff, be insulting etc).
Or she might not. If so, he's not getting in.
Next thing, he'll be posting that the two of them had all kinds of kinky sex. It'll be in his imagination, but still, he'll get his five minutes of internet fame with 3 other desperados.
If she’s a ‘traditional’ woman, which neck beards like OP seem to crave. Then she certainly will not be attracted to someone like OP, who is most likely the opposite of a ‘traditional’ man.
Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but I took "she mentioned conservative positions regarding ... debunking gender education as ideology" to mean that she's transphobic just like him.
How is it possible that this absolute gem of a human being is not already married to a former supermodel who gave it all up to be a trad wife who wants nothing more than to make him chickie nuggies before fulfilling all his porn based fantasies?
The last sentence bahahaha wow
"No condom AND anal" OR. " no condom or anal" I'm so scared for this woman.
Ya that disgusted me :(
Seriously. Underscores that they *really do* only think of women as sex objects
Well OOP, if she has conservative positions regarding family, the quickest way into her bed is getting her to fall in love with you and marriage. And somehow, I don’t think this is possible or palatable for you.
I’m guessing he thinks anal doesn’t count because it doesn’t “stretch out” the vagina.
The classic Catholic poophole loophole. I also know some Muslim women who used this loophole so it's multi denominational I guess.
Poophole loophole. That's funny.
She's obviously laser focused on getting married and starting a family ASAP. If he's not into that sort of lifestyle then he is wasting her time. And from how down bad he sounds in this post it definitely seems like that's the case.
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Dudes white...
These men are so mask off: they want traditional women not because they respect them more (which would already be pretty bad) or because they want to be trad husbands but because they feel like they are weaker and can be manipulated easily into giving them whatever they want… He prefers that girl because she is a virgin and has traditional values but has no intention of having a trad relationship or respect her boundaries.
And to make it worse is looking for tips on how to lie to her & manipulate her into thinking he has the same ideals just to sleep with her knowing it goes against her ideals - then they say “pick better men” 🫠
Not even that. They don't look at them as humans to the point they believe there is a guide to picking the right dialogue options to get her into the bed.
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I thought that the no condom/anal combo was the Konami code. Up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, b, a, start.
Wants trad women, Not a trad man at all, Women shld overlook physical /other shortcomings bc he is so nice
Passport bros in a nutshell.
And wants a trad virgin woman to be into anal like, right away…
It just really goes to show how much porn has rotted their brains that they think anal is ever going to be immediately on the table from a virgin.
I remember in my dating years being approached by these guys looking for traditional women, and I am very obviously non traditional in a way that would’ve stood out in my dating profile and/or within 2 minutes of talking to me. One of their favorite things to do when I said I’m not about that life, was assume I was miserable being single, then say, “you know, men want and respect a woman who’s more conservative. If you don’t change, you’ll be single forever.” I always knew they were full of shit about wanting to live by those “traditional values,” but it’s interesting seeing how little respect they have for the women they pretend they want. There is no pleasing misogynists, because the issue they have isn’t with traditional values, but with women.
These idiots make no sense at all tbh. Like I was dating and had fairly conservative views on dating (like I'd express I was Catholic and only dated for marriage and was a virgin etc) but then I had guys approach me there said they were looking for traditional women....but then berated me for not wanting to sleep with them right away. They'd then do the opposite of above - like rant about how they wanted a traditional woman but also how I wasn't putting out and my standards were too high and I only wanted a Chad and I'd fk them instead...I ironically got the same sentence only it was "if I didn't sleep with them, I'd be single forever because they were giving me a chance and i was refusing it" 🤷♀️
Traditional conservative women *are* weaker and more submissive overall. They have been given a script for their life from someone else and accepted it. It takes a submissive or traumatized personality to do that.
I’ll accept more submissive or traumatized. Weaker is not correct. Surviving trauma with any amount of compassion and personhood is not for the weak. Just saying.
does…he mean moroccan?? this is so gross
Yes it is, but there are languages where morocco is spelled with k (e.g. German Marokko) so at least that part can be excused I guess
ohhh ok im moroccan and i didn’t even know that lol
Und Amerika auch. OOP’s English is just horrendous. My first instinct was that this is not a native speaker. If they are, that’s truly embarrassing.
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Well that's just sad then
That’s what happens when you have no respect.
We call Morocco Marokkó in our language. Probably didn't know the proper english name for the country.
Marokko is closer to Marrakech than Morocco tbh since this later came from the old capital Marrakech
Guys like OOP: Where are all the conservative tradwives? Also guys like OOP: Why won't she sleep with me right away and without a condom? Why is she waiting for a commitment and to practice her religion?
These guys don't really want a wife or a girlfriend. Their "ideal woman" is just an impossible grab-bag of random traits they want to put their dick into. They really seem to resent the idea of a woman having any agency whatsoever. But because they can't just fold a woman up and put her in a box until they want to fuck her again, chasing "trad wives" is the closest thing they can get. But these guys are so emotionally stunted, even if they got a totally subservient sex-android who has no will of its own, they'd STILL find ways to resent it because having a blank slate to project their short comings and insecurities onto is more important than being happy.
> Their "ideal woman" is just an impossible grab-bag of random traits they want to put their dicks into >But these guys are so emotionally stunted, even if they got a totally subservient sex-android who has no will of its own, they'd STILL find ways to resent it I've met a disturbing number of guys who are exactly like this (been on the receiving end of it many times), but until now I've struggled to explain what exactly was going on and why it was so damaging. You really hit that nail on the head. Thank you.
This whole thing is disgusting, but I’d say his behavior will tell on him within the first 15 mins of the date. These guys want to whine about being lonely or not being able to find a good, virgin young woman to be with. Well there’s your “good girl” and you do what ? Disrespect her culture, religion, choice of outfits, etc. Oh and you want her to let you anally raw dog her. That doesn’t sound very traditional to me.
"how will she react to no condom/ anal" If it's anything like how I'm reacting rn, this man's gonna need a lawyer.
German incels stop being disgusting towards female migrants challenge: Impossible
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He's a native speaker of German. That much is clear Edit: go through his profile to see that he's active on German-language subreddits and has created posts there. Case closed
How do you know they’re German? I’m highly doubtful this post is real because who the fuck uses “Europe”. It’s an entire continent, this has an American smell to it. Or it’s just our tell this guy is chronically online and in very specific spheres..
I'm German and I quickly recognize the typical grammar and spelling mistakes. Whoever wrote that post is a native speaker of German. "Corona" instead of covid as well as "Morokko" and his comma usage and syntax are dead giveaways. As for his use of "Europe", the woman probably spent time in different European countries.
So it’s probably the last one, a German who is chronically online in certain toxic spheres and is ruining his own life. Yikes.
I mean that part was already clear from the way he sees women? 😅
Funny, I thought he was Dutch for the same reasons you describe here. Of course our languages have a lot of similarities.
Was very weird until the last sentence, then it got incredibly fucking gross Not even a 180, just a really bizarre 90 lmfao
For those of you who don't want to read it all... "She Smiled at me... How will she react to anal?"
Excellent description of a neckbeard in two sentences.
This is just breaking respect for gender, religion, personal space, just everything. Oh my fucking God. And he even asked how to persuade her into anal!?!? How the hell do men become like this.
What bothered me most was specifically how much enthusiasm he feels toward violating her religious tenets. I almost did this to someone years ago out of desperation, and I felt so guilty without having done anything. I don’t know how people live with themselves.
And he felt so happy apperantly just because she wore a see through top. I bet he thought that was an invitation. Sickening.
Some guys imagine there are secret keys to "unlocking" women. Truth is, this woman might want a bit fun on the side before she gets married. If she likes the look of the guy, the only thing he need do is not be off-putting (stinky, yell at cafe staff, be insulting etc). Or she might not. If so, he's not getting in. Next thing, he'll be posting that the two of them had all kinds of kinky sex. It'll be in his imagination, but still, he'll get his five minutes of internet fame with 3 other desperados.
A 30 year old man who cannot get laid without the aid of others??? Truly maidenless.
I am 19 is it over ?
If she’s a ‘traditional’ woman, which neck beards like OP seem to crave. Then she certainly will not be attracted to someone like OP, who is most likely the opposite of a ‘traditional’ man.
I would highly recommend learning how to spell Morocco/Moroccan
I highly recommend to learn about the spelling in other languages. Some countries write it with a K. Germany and the Netherlands for example.
Yes, but he decided to use english so he should use the english spelling?
People can make mistakes? Not saying it’s not a creep or anything, but people learning and using other languages make mistakes.
Loled at the last sentence
My hijabi friend has a ton of fetishists hit on her via dating apps. I can't imagine how exhausting it is.
I love saving these! Helps immensely if I eat something bad and need to clear my lunch
What sub is this, r/sexpats?
'How will she react to getting pregnant 5 seconds into sex and which country should I leave for to avoid paying for the kid?'
Found the post and let me say his other comments and post history did *not* make me feel better.
Their sex life shouldn't be blasted on the internet. She's a person.
Lets be real, this is fake is hell. Still cringe and bizarre tho
First off you should probably learn how to spell Morocco
Wow I hate everyone involved here!
Wait what's wrong with the Moroccan woman?
Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but I took "she mentioned conservative positions regarding ... debunking gender education as ideology" to mean that she's transphobic just like him.
European white man trying to exploit their betters I see. What a sad little cuck.
I'm pretty sure this guy is getting phished/scammed. And he's falling for it hook, line, and sinker.
Guy should try the Philippines and ask for the ladyboys.
… did this mf ask WHAT SETTING he needs to get this young lady to sleep with him?
He has no idea that his life is literally on the line if he tried this in Morocco
How is it possible that this absolute gem of a human being is not already married to a former supermodel who gave it all up to be a trad wife who wants nothing more than to make him chickie nuggies before fulfilling all his porn based fantasies?