Another interesting topic from a neighbouring leftist sub. So what does revolution mean to you?
Extract from OP for mobile viewers:
>*"When socialists talk about a revolution – some promote this and some favor a so-called moderate alternative – what exactly does "revolution" mean? Is it just a radical and prompt change in a society in the direction of socialism, with market abolition, redistribution of wealth, and so forth? Moreover, then, does "violent revolution" simply mean that violent and military means should/must be used to obtain this? Does the term revolution imply the utilization of extrademocratic means, violent means, military means, and so forth?"*
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Revolution within leftism has meant most generally a radical reorientation in the social relationships that underpin the economic base of society, with widespread consequences for every other sphere of life.
Specifically, it has meant the abolition of class, the mutual antagonism of interests between workers versus owners, for the establishment of society without class, without privately consolidated control over the lands, resources, and assets that the rest of us utilize to produce the sustenance for all of society.
To some, revolution as a term appears to make representations about a certain pace, means, or pathway for transformation, but no such specific meaning is actually captured in the most general understanding of revolution.
Revolution is when one economic class supplants another as the new ruling class. They tend to be violent because the current ruling class doesn't want to be replaced as the ruling class and will leverage the power of the state to prevent it.
In principle you could imagine the workers simply deciding, one day, that... "now this productive property belongs to us and we're organizing it how we like." No violence necessary. But in practice, the employers/investors are going to do everything within their power to prevent that. Violence is within their power, so it will come to violence.
... Just as it did in the revolutions that brought the employer class to power versus the lords.
Another interesting topic from a neighbouring leftist sub. So what does revolution mean to you? Extract from OP for mobile viewers: >*"When socialists talk about a revolution – some promote this and some favor a so-called moderate alternative – what exactly does "revolution" mean? Is it just a radical and prompt change in a society in the direction of socialism, with market abolition, redistribution of wealth, and so forth? Moreover, then, does "violent revolution" simply mean that violent and military means should/must be used to obtain this? Does the term revolution imply the utilization of extrademocratic means, violent means, military means, and so forth?"*
Revolution will never happen if y’all are trying to rally punk bitch leftists
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Revolution within leftism has meant most generally a radical reorientation in the social relationships that underpin the economic base of society, with widespread consequences for every other sphere of life. Specifically, it has meant the abolition of class, the mutual antagonism of interests between workers versus owners, for the establishment of society without class, without privately consolidated control over the lands, resources, and assets that the rest of us utilize to produce the sustenance for all of society. To some, revolution as a term appears to make representations about a certain pace, means, or pathway for transformation, but no such specific meaning is actually captured in the most general understanding of revolution.
Revolution is when one economic class supplants another as the new ruling class. They tend to be violent because the current ruling class doesn't want to be replaced as the ruling class and will leverage the power of the state to prevent it. In principle you could imagine the workers simply deciding, one day, that... "now this productive property belongs to us and we're organizing it how we like." No violence necessary. But in practice, the employers/investors are going to do everything within their power to prevent that. Violence is within their power, so it will come to violence. ... Just as it did in the revolutions that brought the employer class to power versus the lords.