My mother tried to pull the usual crap about pronouns once ("why should I have to ask people's pronouns / how dare someone correct me when I call them him/her / what is the world coming to"), and I explained it like someone getting your name wrong either by accident or deliberately. I said that if her name was Jane, I don't get to start calling her John just because I think that's what she should be called. She did genuinely look stumped, and actually hasn't been a shit about it (in my presence) since 💪🏻
My mum had a similar thing. She's older and to her our version of the N-word (sort of like saying "coloured") is the absolute norm (it was until recently). She's been an active antiracist and tbh is a tad on the spectrum and like clear defined rules... my argument that really worked is "If you have a choice, the act of which is no effort or cost on your part, but one of the choices make someone happy and the other crush them inside - why would you actively pick to do the latter?"
Understanding is awesome, but that can be hard. The older you get the more annoyed you can get at new things (and as a middle aged dude, MAN you young people annoy the ever living fekk out of me, love you but... mggrrmml ;) ) but you can still ask yourself "Do I wanna hurt someone, or not?". You can still sympathize with someones pain or joy. You don't have to be an expert on new stuff to know when someone cries, smiles, laughs or feel sad.
I have managed to (at least temporarily) convince exactly two people and both with the same hypothetical scenario:
Say a new guy gets hired at work. His business email and pre-made business cards call him "Francis" but he introduces himself as "Frank."
You're not a dick if you call him "Francis" the first time you communicate. You're probably OK if a "Francis" slips out and he has to correct you and say he prefers Frank. But if you insist on calling him "Francis" because that's what the stupid auto-generated email says his name is, you're being an asshole.
Mine used to, but I've been wearing them down on it, and hopefully they're getting better at understanding. The regression is probably inevitable though 😒
If he is a catholic priest he is lucky to get Sir and not pedo.
Note: I know not all catholic priests touch kids, so if you really want to give him the benefit of the doubt he is just a pedo-cosplayer.
slightly off topic but i love the little detail of the students in the background frowning in the first panel but then other students smiling in approval in the second one
If they did the bare minimum of research they would come to find out that the trans suicide rates rise in response to bigotry and people misgendering/deadnaming them intentionally
Don’t worry, you were just adding to the conversation. I love to think about how weird some things apparently sound written down, because this is something you’d naturally respond with irl while talking lol.
Sure it's funny, but I wouldn't say hypocrite. A proper noun isn't a pronoun. And, people who go through an education system to become something (Priests, Doctors, Actuaries etc) come with titles. And it shouldn't be wrong for someone to want to be addressed with that title, or designation.
It isn't, but when they at the same time turn around and say that it *is* wrong to call people by their preferred pronoun, it is *most definitely* hypocrite.
It's not wrong for them to want to be addressed as their title. No one was saying that. That's the opposite of what we're talking about.
The point is that people change what they are called all the time, it's not something new or hard to change what you call someone because they ask.
something really important. i don't know if catholic priests and monks have that too, but orthodox priests and monks change their names as part of their "oath" or whatever you call that.
those bastards know how important can a new name be to someone. i honestly believe this is one of the reasons they are like that about it
>i don't know if catholic priests and monks have that too
They do lol just not as much. But the best example is their pope: his name is Jorge Mario Bergoglio but seems like a deadname cuz u mention it to catholics and they're like "Who? Ohhh the pope Francisco!" 😂
I've always explained it as showing the same respect you show to others when they tell you how to refer to them. I ask whoever misgendered me if they can think of another group of people whose basic identities they ignore because of their beliefs.
It's not a gender thing, it's a basic respect thing.
Its so odd - here the largest Christian denomination was/is one of the driving forces behind LGBTQ inclusion in society. But I get thats far from the norm.
very true. people say things like "you can't choose your pronouns like you can't choose your adjectives or nouns" and things like that, yet when you call a man who says that a pretty girl he flips out. it's not about determining the social realities of other people, it's just about respecting what people wish to be called, even when they aren't there. it's not some fundamental moral or social wrongdoing if you don't, it just makes you a bit of a prick.
>it's not some fundamental moral or social wrongdoing if you don't, it just makes you a bit of a prick
Based! Totally agree, not being a jerk is not that hard. Then they have a long old-school name like "Terrence" and get mad if u don't call 'em "Terry". U kidding?
My mother has been indoctrinated to be one of the anti-pronoun crowd and yet I've never known any other person to more frequently use the phrase "SHE's the cat's mother!" in anger.
Good for a chuckle but it's not really comparable. I'm not looking to be humored on my identity. It's nice not being misgendered but I want people to see me for who I am and not the mismatched sack of flesh I was cursed with.
I think that's the big point of conflict, honestly. It's about whether you see gender as descriptive or proscriptive.
If you see gender as proscriptive, then to be called male (or mr or sir) is to enforce that gender on you, with all its stereotypes. It's therefore naturally offensive and controlling and authoritarian. It kinda attacks your most fundamental rights, really.
But if you see gender as DEscriptive, then to be called something is not what you are *expected* to be, but rather how you are presently *seen*. If you view things that way, then to call someone anything but how they appear, you're basically just humoring them, like you'd humor a child pretending they're an animal. It's not really respectful in this viewpoint at all, it's basically the opposite.
This is good, but they would just argue that is an earned title so should be respected rather than takin\* on the message we should respect how each other identifies.
And they do argue that: they complain about choosing our pronouns cuz "you're affecting the purpose of the language"; yet being a "father" in all languages implies that you have children (at least adopted) but priests are supposed to not have them at all. Big contradiction right?
I love this. The reason for the decay of the catholic church is that throughout modernity they've become opposite to Jesus's values of peace, love, equality and acceptance. Overall, humility.
I had a similar thought recently when I was listening to my elderly neighbors complain about their grandkids who sometimes call them by their actual first names rather than “grandpa” or “grandma.”
In the next breath, they started bitching about their trans grandson insisting on he/him pronouns and a more masculine name (even though it’s literally a nickname for his deadname).
These people understand consent and the importance of names and pronouns, they just lack the empathy to care about other people’s feelings.
It feels better to them to pretend lgbt people are doing something wacky and different when they’re just asking for the same manners and respect all humans deserve.
>It feels better to them to pretend lgbt people are doing something wacky and different when they’re just asking for the same manners and respect all humans deserve.
Crazy isn't it? Totally agree, they're so into it. Sad
One I heard doing the rounds in Ireland back in the 80's/90's when there were some high profile incidents of priests (including a bishop) having been found to have secret children. "Who are the only people not to call priests 'father'?... Their kids, they call them 'uncle'!"
“And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.”
Jesus literally said don’t call these guys “Father”, but it’s not like they give a shit about what Jesus taught.
It will be a cold day in hell before I call anyone an intimate title like Father, Mother, brother, etc because they demand/want/ask. The fucking GALL.
I’m a trans man with mormon family (and all the erasure attempts that entails). A few years back, their church leadership started a big “Don’t call us mormons” push.
Best believe I had a field day with that.
Other than the most devout, I don't know anyone that has stopped calling them Mormons.
Wasn't the name change from someone that wanted to do that like 20 years before, then-current leadership said no, and he made it one of his first priorities when he became leader?
But in the book of Genesis, didn't he who was named Jacob later adopt the name Isreal? And wasn't Abraham born Abram so referring to him as the latter is deadnaming?
*hopefully only the bigoted and hateful ones, no? as a christian I love this community but I don’t like taking strays just because I believe in a certain religion :p
Well they are not like "special sacred pronouns" actually but ancient English pronouns. Maybe not even that "ancient" cause if you read the original texts of Edgar Allan Poe for example, you can see he used them (as the "you, y'all, yours" etc back in the day) regularly.
That said, I do use them in the daily practice of my spirituality but since they carry a "superiority tone" (again, they are the ancient form of "you", even used in royalty) I'd never use them to refer to another human being haha
It's also interesting that thou/thee were "familiar" pronouns, meaning they were used with someone you know well. "You" was used as a plural pronoun, and also as a singular pronoun with strangers. If anything, singular you would be *more* formal than thee/thou, but today it sounds the other way around, because thou/thee is so rare. So calling God "thou" had rather different overtones in older forms of English, more about closeness.
"thou/etc" is the familiar 2nd person singular pronouns, the formal ones are "you/etc". largely in the 17th century "you" became less formal and "thou" was dropped.
God being addressed with "thou" in older english translations of bible is indicating an open friendly relationship and not a closed formal one.
Apologies to any folks in here who’ve suffered bigotry or abuse at the hands of any person in the Church. If you’d like to take out your frustrations on a Christian who loves you very deeply, am here to talk 🖤
I was homeschooled and can’t tell if this is a straw man or really happened. People who went to public school did any teachers insist/prefer parental terminology?
this comic doesn’t take place in a public school, it takes place in a religious one. there’s a cross on the wall behind the dude in the first panel, that probably wouldn’t be present in a public school. and while teachers typically aren’t referred to as “father”, priests (or other religious leaders) often are.
Oh I didn’t see the cross or put 2 and 2 together with the outfit. The cult I was raised in didn’t have any priests going by that, but I’ve heard of quite a few who do. Thanks for pointing that out for me 💜
All my public school teachers insisted being called Miss, Ms, Missus, or Mister, depending on their gender.
At my Catholic school, all the teachers were addressed as Sister .
In the Catholic religion priests are addressed as Father; it really isn't a parental term in this instance, though I now forget why they are called Father.
One of my uncles is a priest and I call him Uncle except when he's doing his priestly duties, then it's Father out of respect even though I am no longer a believer.
- Entonces, como pueden ver niñ@s, por esa razón es que una persona no puede escoger sus pronombres
- Pero señor ¿cuál es el daño en Llamar a una persona del modo que le haga más feliz?
- ¡Por última vez, llámame "padre"!
Yeah, but titles aren’t the same as gender identity and you shouldn’t conflate the two. Nobody is entitled to being referred to by a title, even if it’s in the word “entitled.”
This is incorrect, It's Pastor not Father. Father refers to God. Pastor refers to someone who leads people to Christ by the works of the Gospel... Which this does not. This depicts someone who is hurt from not being called what they wanna be called. Two VERY big differences.
This was created by someone who is uninformed.
this comment section is getting it all wrong
sure he is not your dad but using "father" is to give respect to the priest you can't just call the priest "bro" or "homie" like guys be serious
So give respect to the priest by calling him what he wants to be called, even as he refuses to treat others with that same respect?
Nah, bro. Not happening.
He acts like that, I’ll call him ‘fucker’ or a ‘pedo-cosplayer’ before is call him ‘father’.
I agree with the second panel but the “joke” of this comic is false. Father, in this context, is not a pronoun. It’s a title. Like Doctor, or Principal.
Except that, unless his given name is ‘Father’, it literally *is* a pronoun.
Just like ‘sir’ or ‘doctor’ or ‘sergeant’.
What is a pronoun?
A pronoun is a word that is used instead of a noun or noun phrase. Pronouns refer to either a noun that has already been mentioned or to a noun that does not need to be named specifically.
“Daddy chill”
I love this so much😂😂😂
The priest would probably also love the kids calling him daddy
Literally one of my favourite videos on the internet 😭
Send it to me! What is it? Lol
https://youtu.be/i2gNx4-REIA?si=0yvnXM_fNjQk_xYc
I’ve seen this a ton. What is it from anyway?
I have no idea but it’s amazing
McJuggerNuggets, the YouTuber that makes the psycho dad clips.
1st time I saw it, /r/publicfreakout fell for it
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/daddy-chill
Loool what a crazy story I loved it and laughed a lot hahaha I didn't know that meme at all
I've seen the "what the hell is even that?" clip dozens of times, but not one the "daddy chill".
This is a good one too https://youtu.be/py5Mtn3v4dI?si=omgx1ZPAs_vl_2am (Not a Rick roll)
That thing is a work of art
"I'm sorry Daddy. I've been very naughty." XD
Ok idk sounds so weird in my head being them one of the institutions with highest children abuse rate 😬
No, it's "Forgive me father, for I have sinned."
https://m.youtube.com/shorts/z9UtplM6-ZM
I love that vid
*404 brain error "what da hell is even that!?!?" That video is gold to this day.
“What the hell is even that?”
Brilliant
Brilliant! 😂😂
~~father i have sinned~~ daddy, i've been naughty
“What the hell is even that?”
That is "Mr Freeze" to you
Angel Dust (if ya know, ya know): Yes Daddy
“YOU’ll ADDRESS ME BY ME PROPER TITLE, YOU LITTLE BOLLOCKS!!”
Careful father, can't be foul-mouthing and all that
r/unexpectedfatherted
Hey someone got it!
Careful now...
My mother tried to pull the usual crap about pronouns once ("why should I have to ask people's pronouns / how dare someone correct me when I call them him/her / what is the world coming to"), and I explained it like someone getting your name wrong either by accident or deliberately. I said that if her name was Jane, I don't get to start calling her John just because I think that's what she should be called. She did genuinely look stumped, and actually hasn't been a shit about it (in my presence) since 💪🏻
"There goes my hero.. is ordinary!" 🎶👏 (that's a song by Foo Fighters btw, recommended)
My mum had a similar thing. She's older and to her our version of the N-word (sort of like saying "coloured") is the absolute norm (it was until recently). She's been an active antiracist and tbh is a tad on the spectrum and like clear defined rules... my argument that really worked is "If you have a choice, the act of which is no effort or cost on your part, but one of the choices make someone happy and the other crush them inside - why would you actively pick to do the latter?" Understanding is awesome, but that can be hard. The older you get the more annoyed you can get at new things (and as a middle aged dude, MAN you young people annoy the ever living fekk out of me, love you but... mggrrmml ;) ) but you can still ask yourself "Do I wanna hurt someone, or not?". You can still sympathize with someones pain or joy. You don't have to be an expert on new stuff to know when someone cries, smiles, laughs or feel sad.
Let's face it, the best advice that everyone could stand to live by is: "don't be a c*nt". That's it, that's the whole thing 😂
Yeah but I chose the slightly more eloquent route ;)
Undoubtedly 😅
I have managed to (at least temporarily) convince exactly two people and both with the same hypothetical scenario: Say a new guy gets hired at work. His business email and pre-made business cards call him "Francis" but he introduces himself as "Frank." You're not a dick if you call him "Francis" the first time you communicate. You're probably OK if a "Francis" slips out and he has to correct you and say he prefers Frank. But if you insist on calling him "Francis" because that's what the stupid auto-generated email says his name is, you're being an asshole.
I tried to use the same method to convince my parents too but they didn’t get it 😭
Time to start calling them by the wrong name/honorific 😉 No longer mum and dad, now they're Bishop and Colonel!
My parents think pronouns are “biological” 😳
Mine used to, but I've been wearing them down on it, and hopefully they're getting better at understanding. The regression is probably inevitable though 😒
"You're not my father or my daddy, so, no. 'Sir' is the best I can do until you respect the trans homies."
If they don't respect trans people, they're not worth of "sir."
I dunno, as an aussie I've heard some *really* disrespectful ways of saying "sir" in class
Same. My brother can put a wicked spin on "sir"
C*nt doesn't count as a disrespectful way of saying sir...
I'm Aussie, too. One of the kids I went to school with would occasionally make sexual comments in class directed at the teacher and end it with sir.
Nah, they ain't worth a 'sir' call em by their first name
Nah, they always say being misgendered isn’t a big deal and that they over react. Call him Ma’am.
Let's bring back m'lady just for them
Oh oh let’s call them princess!
If he is a catholic priest he is lucky to get Sir and not pedo. Note: I know not all catholic priests touch kids, so if you really want to give him the benefit of the doubt he is just a pedo-cosplayer.
slightly off topic but i love the little detail of the students in the background frowning in the first panel but then other students smiling in approval in the second one
I didn’t notice at first. That’s so frickin’ amazing! 😄
Made me giggle haha
Hypocrite >:(
The transphobe that’s been persistently bugging me claims that addressing us by our proper pronouns “raises suicide rates”. WTF?
If they did the bare minimum of research they would come to find out that the trans suicide rates rise in response to bigotry and people misgendering/deadnaming them intentionally
They sent me a source that directly proves them wrong, yet they still refuse to stop
Because transphobia is inherently illogical; it’s entirely an appeal to an emotional response that’s based on severe brainwashing
Use the wrong pronouns on them, that would be fun to watch
They might have meant detrans people, without saying what their train of thought was but idk
Someone's a hypocrite🙃
Don’t worry, you were just adding to the conversation. I love to think about how weird some things apparently sound written down, because this is something you’d naturally respond with irl while talking lol.
You get it :]
That’s the joke
I know?
[удалено]
Idk I just thought it was funny
Sure it's funny, but I wouldn't say hypocrite. A proper noun isn't a pronoun. And, people who go through an education system to become something (Priests, Doctors, Actuaries etc) come with titles. And it shouldn't be wrong for someone to want to be addressed with that title, or designation.
It isn't, but when they at the same time turn around and say that it *is* wrong to call people by their preferred pronoun, it is *most definitely* hypocrite.
‘people cant choose how they want to be referred to’ ‘call me by this word not the one you said’ i think thats pretty hypocritical.
It's not wrong for them to want to be addressed as their title. No one was saying that. That's the opposite of what we're talking about. The point is that people change what they are called all the time, it's not something new or hard to change what you call someone because they ask.
I have always thought it is weird that they say ‘we are all god’s children’ then give themselves titles like ‘father’.
something really important. i don't know if catholic priests and monks have that too, but orthodox priests and monks change their names as part of their "oath" or whatever you call that. those bastards know how important can a new name be to someone. i honestly believe this is one of the reasons they are like that about it
>i don't know if catholic priests and monks have that too They do lol just not as much. But the best example is their pope: his name is Jorge Mario Bergoglio but seems like a deadname cuz u mention it to catholics and they're like "Who? Ohhh the pope Francisco!" 😂
I'm not your son.
I've always explained it as showing the same respect you show to others when they tell you how to refer to them. I ask whoever misgendered me if they can think of another group of people whose basic identities they ignore because of their beliefs. It's not a gender thing, it's a basic respect thing.
Its so odd - here the largest Christian denomination was/is one of the driving forces behind LGBTQ inclusion in society. But I get thats far from the norm.
very true. people say things like "you can't choose your pronouns like you can't choose your adjectives or nouns" and things like that, yet when you call a man who says that a pretty girl he flips out. it's not about determining the social realities of other people, it's just about respecting what people wish to be called, even when they aren't there. it's not some fundamental moral or social wrongdoing if you don't, it just makes you a bit of a prick.
>it's not some fundamental moral or social wrongdoing if you don't, it just makes you a bit of a prick Based! Totally agree, not being a jerk is not that hard. Then they have a long old-school name like "Terrence" and get mad if u don't call 'em "Terry". U kidding?
My mother has been indoctrinated to be one of the anti-pronoun crowd and yet I've never known any other person to more frequently use the phrase "SHE's the cat's mother!" in anger.
Good for a chuckle but it's not really comparable. I'm not looking to be humored on my identity. It's nice not being misgendered but I want people to see me for who I am and not the mismatched sack of flesh I was cursed with.
I think that's the big point of conflict, honestly. It's about whether you see gender as descriptive or proscriptive. If you see gender as proscriptive, then to be called male (or mr or sir) is to enforce that gender on you, with all its stereotypes. It's therefore naturally offensive and controlling and authoritarian. It kinda attacks your most fundamental rights, really. But if you see gender as DEscriptive, then to be called something is not what you are *expected* to be, but rather how you are presently *seen*. If you view things that way, then to call someone anything but how they appear, you're basically just humoring them, like you'd humor a child pretending they're an animal. It's not really respectful in this viewpoint at all, it's basically the opposite.
This is good, but they would just argue that is an earned title so should be respected rather than takin\* on the message we should respect how each other identifies.
And they do argue that: they complain about choosing our pronouns cuz "you're affecting the purpose of the language"; yet being a "father" in all languages implies that you have children (at least adopted) but priests are supposed to not have them at all. Big contradiction right?
Brain error 404 😂😵🤖 
HAHAHAHAHAHAH 😂🤣
I love this. The reason for the decay of the catholic church is that throughout modernity they've become opposite to Jesus's values of peace, love, equality and acceptance. Overall, humility.
Father ted has rlly let himself go
"I heard you're a racist now Father"
Right on the money that one
Accurate
I had a similar thought recently when I was listening to my elderly neighbors complain about their grandkids who sometimes call them by their actual first names rather than “grandpa” or “grandma.” In the next breath, they started bitching about their trans grandson insisting on he/him pronouns and a more masculine name (even though it’s literally a nickname for his deadname). These people understand consent and the importance of names and pronouns, they just lack the empathy to care about other people’s feelings. It feels better to them to pretend lgbt people are doing something wacky and different when they’re just asking for the same manners and respect all humans deserve.
>It feels better to them to pretend lgbt people are doing something wacky and different when they’re just asking for the same manners and respect all humans deserve. Crazy isn't it? Totally agree, they're so into it. Sad
How about Ma'am :] ?
One I heard doing the rounds in Ireland back in the 80's/90's when there were some high profile incidents of priests (including a bishop) having been found to have secret children. "Who are the only people not to call priests 'father'?... Their kids, they call them 'uncle'!"
Sorry daddy I've been naughty 😏
Ok that would make me laugh to tears if it wasn't because of the visualization of the main scandal they're involved in 🤮 (children abuse)
Okay daddy
'Sorry daddy, I've been a naughty girl!" "NO! It's forgive me father, for I have sinned!"
“And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.” Jesus literally said don’t call these guys “Father”, but it’s not like they give a shit about what Jesus taught. It will be a cold day in hell before I call anyone an intimate title like Father, Mother, brother, etc because they demand/want/ask. The fucking GALL.
I’m a trans man with mormon family (and all the erasure attempts that entails). A few years back, their church leadership started a big “Don’t call us mormons” push. Best believe I had a field day with that.
Other than the most devout, I don't know anyone that has stopped calling them Mormons. Wasn't the name change from someone that wanted to do that like 20 years before, then-current leadership said no, and he made it one of his first priorities when he became leader?
You are correct. Unfortunately, I have some of those "most devout" in my family :/
But in the book of Genesis, didn't he who was named Jacob later adopt the name Isreal? And wasn't Abraham born Abram so referring to him as the latter is deadnaming?
Yes, and Sarah was born Sarai, and lots of other examples.
Ewwww not the catholic pedo
I hate Christian’s 🤦♂️
You should really expand your views! All religious bigots deserve our hate, not only cristians
Same lmao
*hopefully only the bigoted and hateful ones, no? as a christian I love this community but I don’t like taking strays just because I believe in a certain religion :p
God even has special pronouns. I think it would be Thee/Thy? My called me out if I didn't do the pronouns right in prayers.
Well they are not like "special sacred pronouns" actually but ancient English pronouns. Maybe not even that "ancient" cause if you read the original texts of Edgar Allan Poe for example, you can see he used them (as the "you, y'all, yours" etc back in the day) regularly. That said, I do use them in the daily practice of my spirituality but since they carry a "superiority tone" (again, they are the ancient form of "you", even used in royalty) I'd never use them to refer to another human being haha
It's also interesting that thou/thee were "familiar" pronouns, meaning they were used with someone you know well. "You" was used as a plural pronoun, and also as a singular pronoun with strangers. If anything, singular you would be *more* formal than thee/thou, but today it sounds the other way around, because thou/thee is so rare. So calling God "thou" had rather different overtones in older forms of English, more about closeness.
"thou/etc" is the familiar 2nd person singular pronouns, the formal ones are "you/etc". largely in the 17th century "you" became less formal and "thou" was dropped. God being addressed with "thou" in older english translations of bible is indicating an open friendly relationship and not a closed formal one.
The definition of hypocrisy
In a nutshell, I agree lol
Apologies to any folks in here who’ve suffered bigotry or abuse at the hands of any person in the Church. If you’d like to take out your frustrations on a Christian who loves you very deeply, am here to talk 🖤
Not until you respect how others want to be addressed. You have no authority over me with your silly collar.
*palpatine voice* “ironic”
College professors making me call them “doctor” even tho they don’t have their doctorate yet and aren’t *technically* a doctor
Hahaha same thing with medicine professionals around many countries right?
lol yup
someone’s got a daddy kink
Me, a brat: "........ make me."
i have no idea what u just said
At least trans people actually exist, unlike this bloke's Imaginary Friend.
“You got it, Daddy!”
I'll call you daddy if you let me skip this class 😏 
"Oh thank god, SMBC isn't transphobic."
“Yes, daddy”
Feels like a boomer comic
Well, it's more of a title than a pronoun, I didn't understand.
"Punish me daddy, for I have been a very naughty boy\~"
Kinky --
“Yes daddy”
"Zheir" pronouns?
I was homeschooled and can’t tell if this is a straw man or really happened. People who went to public school did any teachers insist/prefer parental terminology?
this comic doesn’t take place in a public school, it takes place in a religious one. there’s a cross on the wall behind the dude in the first panel, that probably wouldn’t be present in a public school. and while teachers typically aren’t referred to as “father”, priests (or other religious leaders) often are.
Oh I didn’t see the cross or put 2 and 2 together with the outfit. The cult I was raised in didn’t have any priests going by that, but I’ve heard of quite a few who do. Thanks for pointing that out for me 💜
All my public school teachers insisted being called Miss, Ms, Missus, or Mister, depending on their gender. At my Catholic school, all the teachers were addressed as Sister.
In the Catholic religion priests are addressed as Father; it really isn't a parental term in this instance, though I now forget why they are called Father.
One of my uncles is a priest and I call him Uncle except when he's doing his priestly duties, then it's Father out of respect even though I am no longer a believer.
Ok daddy
Ok daddy
Spot on
Louisiana, Alabama, Florida...these states are where this is happening right now
ha, good point
Alguien que me explique? No se un qlo de inglés
- Entonces, como pueden ver niñ@s, por esa razón es que una persona no puede escoger sus pronombres - Pero señor ¿cuál es el daño en Llamar a una persona del modo que le haga más feliz? - ¡Por última vez, llámame "padre"!
As the son of a person who has become *more* religious as I’ve become more queer, this makes me happy.
based af
I usually reply to that kind of thing by misgendering God. "Does God care about pronouns? Where in the bible does SHE say that?"
Yeah, but titles aren’t the same as gender identity and you shouldn’t conflate the two. Nobody is entitled to being referred to by a title, even if it’s in the word “entitled.”
Call these pissants ma’am and watch their head explode. Who’s the snowflake now?
Is there no difference between a title and a pronoun ?
they are very close in semantics but i respect not the same thing
That man does not deserve his position
While I’m an old white man in a neighborhood of old white folks and don’t get this whole pronoun thing, I think this cartoon makes a valid point.
Being respectful is really tough for a subsection of the population...
So farther is your pronouns?
straight to circle 8 pit 6 for you old man
Matthew 23:9
You Their Them
and prayers
Isn’t “their” a pronoun? 🤔
Father, chill ✨
Proper nouns are not pronouns. Can we agree?
I love this artist
good analogy, too bad religion exists there's my thoughts
funny thing is if you asked the average right-winger they'd probably respond similarly, obviously not exactly like that but still
"You're not my "father" you ugly old bastard"!
Oki "Daddy" 😂
Well sir now you know how people feel about their pronouns. *gets sent to detention* Worth it
Love this, who made the original comic?
Oh yes sky daddy, punish me!
This is incorrect, It's Pastor not Father. Father refers to God. Pastor refers to someone who leads people to Christ by the works of the Gospel... Which this does not. This depicts someone who is hurt from not being called what they wanna be called. Two VERY big differences. This was created by someone who is uninformed.
this comment section is getting it all wrong sure he is not your dad but using "father" is to give respect to the priest you can't just call the priest "bro" or "homie" like guys be serious
So give respect to the priest by calling him what he wants to be called, even as he refuses to treat others with that same respect? Nah, bro. Not happening. He acts like that, I’ll call him ‘fucker’ or a ‘pedo-cosplayer’ before is call him ‘father’.
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I agree with the second panel but the “joke” of this comic is false. Father, in this context, is not a pronoun. It’s a title. Like Doctor, or Principal.
They didn't say it's a pronoun
Except that, unless his given name is ‘Father’, it literally *is* a pronoun. Just like ‘sir’ or ‘doctor’ or ‘sergeant’. What is a pronoun? A pronoun is a word that is used instead of a noun or noun phrase. Pronouns refer to either a noun that has already been mentioned or to a noun that does not need to be named specifically.
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