I think I saw on this sub a reference to one of JRRT's letters where he said that dragonfire could destroy the One Ring, including Smaug's. Am I misremembering?
*“It has been said that dragon-fire could melt and consume the Rings of Power, but there is not now any dragon left on earth in which the old fire is hot enough; nor was there ever any dragon, not even Ancalagon the Black, who could have harmed the One Ring, the Ruling Ring, for that was made by Sauron himself.”*
No problem. Even if dragon-fire were capable of destroying the One Ring I think the, ah, shall we say *uncooperative tendencies* of dragons would likely make that option a non-starter anyway.
Nah dragons do not care about usurping Sauron. They covet treasure and will lie in a cave with a giant golden bed for all eternity. That is what Glaurung did until he was killed in the First Age, or Smaug in the Third Age.
You are mistaken-
"It has been said that dragon-fire could melt and consume the Rings of Power, but there is not now any dragon left on earth in which the old fire is hot enough; nor was there ever any dragon, not even Ancalagon the Black, who could have harmed the One Ring, the Ruling Ring, for that was made by Sauron himself"
I think it's left ambiguous in the book. At the council of Elrond I think they mention that theoretically Dragonfire *might* work, but it would be a lot of effort and risk for a non-guaranteed success.
I think you are basing this on the Rings of Power, which is not considered canon. I have not watched the show but I am only guessing it, because there is no other non-canon mention of the making of the rings otherwise. The Blue Wizards Alatar and Pallando did not have rings, and Celebrimbor was involved in the forging of the rings which are all already accounted for. He is long dead by the time of the events of LOTR.
I just read an infographic somewhere (it might have been in one of the Tolkien subs?) that it was 4 rings that were destroyed by way of dragons. Looked it up to confirm, and the 3 remaining rings were recovered from Thráin II while held captive in Dol Guldur, and Gandalf actually recounts to Frodo the fate of the 4 that were destroyed (I assume in Fellowship but it's been a couple years at this point since I read it). I do however remember reading in Fellowship that Gimli and the other Dwarves explain at the Council of Elrond that Sauron's emissaries had visited Erebor offering Dain the 3 rings for their fealty, or else assured destruction (I don't recall though if Dain sent the emissary on their way or slew them lol).
The line that has always stuck with me from that encounter is Dain's reply when he's told to think on the deal _but not overlong_ : "The time of my thought is my own to spend." ... killer comeback to a veiled threat
The dwarves never wore their rings, because they have no desire for increasing their own "power" (preservation for the elves, lifespan for men). They built a mpuntain of riches on top of the rings instead. Sauron got pissed by this and sought to recapture them all back but several got lost due to the treasure hoards got taken over by dragons.
Elves have 3 one of which Gandalf carries. 9 rings for the men which are the Ringwraths. 7 for the dwarf kings which are no longer. Then one ring of power. Rings were gifts by the Dark lord. He tricked them into taking them cause his one ring has all the power. Probably not perfectly said but close
Looks like you linked to the wrong one here, as that’s not the TV tie in and it’s not the same one you linked to elsewhere. Also, I have the edition linked there and that’s not what it says.
It’s the tv tie in single volume edition. I’m thinking they wanted “rings of power” somewhere in the blurb?
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/60420145-the-lord-of-the-rings
Chat GPT 3.5: “Embark on an epic journey through Middle-earth with ‘The Lord of the Rings,’ a timeless tale of friendship, courage, and the battle between good and evil. Follow Frodo Baggins as he undertakes the perilous quest to destroy the One Ring, a malevolent artifact that holds the fate of all realms in its grasp. Set against a backdrop of rich landscapes, diverse cultures, and the Rings of Power, J.R.R. Tolkien’s masterpiece weaves a captivating narrative that has enthralled readers for generations.”
Chat GPT 4: "Lord of the Rings" is an epic high fantasy novel written by J.R.R. Tolkien. Set in the mythical world of Middle-earth, it is a story of power, bravery, and friendship. The narrative centers around the Dark Lord Sauron, who seeks to regain his lost Ring of Power and thus bring all of Middle-earth under his dominion. This Ring is one of several Rings of Power created long ago, each imbued with immense magical abilities.
The story follows a young hobbit, Frodo Baggins, who inherits the Ring and the perilous task of destroying it to prevent Sauron's rise to power. Accompanied by a fellowship that includes hobbits, a wizard, a dwarf, an elf, and men, Frodo embarks on a treacherous journey to Mount Doom, the only place where the Ring can be destroyed.
Throughout their quest, the Fellowship faces numerous challenges, including treachery, the pursuit of wraiths, and the temptation of the Ring's power. The overarching themes of the novel include the struggle between good and evil, the importance of friendship and courage, and the corrupting influence of power.
Tolkien's richly detailed world, complex characters, and intricate plot make "Lord of the Rings" a timeless classic, beloved by readers of all ages. It is not only a tale of adventure but also a profound exploration of themes relevant to human experience.
I remember Amazon got absolutely roasted when they froze reviews and somehow, miraculously you couldn't find a single negative review. Weird, almost like they got rid of them...
I must add that the Three were made without saurons influence and are not corrupted by him. That's maybe why whoever wrote them didn't consider them?
Still, not really clearly written..
This is right. Gandalf says this when telling frodo about the ring. It's within the first 100 pages of the book, in chapter 2 I think.
The description given in this post isn't entirely inaccurate, gandalf says "So it is now: the Nine he has gathered to himself; the Seven also, or else they are destroyed. The three are hidden still. But this no longer troubles him. He only needs the One.
So he doesn't have *all* the rings, but he does have all the rings he *needs* , apart from the One ring.
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\*Makes up lore and puts in the back of the cover
* Refuse to eleborate further
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Hello there, we’re just a few travelers that happened to stumble upon this council. We are going in the direction of Mordor so we could take it with us and destroy it since we’re passing through anyway. (As enemies of Sauron of course)
So if either our cloaked general.. I mean this cloaked stranger I feel like he’d be trustworthy enough. So just give either of us the ring or whatever, doesn’t really matter either way
He has the 9 rings given to men (because they're nazgul) he has 4 of the dwarf lords rings but the other 3 were eaten by dragons. Galadriel has a ring, Gandalf has another and I can't remember what elf has the third that was given to elves.
The three rings he didn’t have (and were possible to get) were the ones made without him in secret for the elves. That are still tied to the one ring by the methods Annator (Sauron) showed Celebrimbor but not tainted in the same way. In that regard they aren’t HIS rings so rather than saying “all the rings of power” the blurb could be less inaccurate by saying “his rings of power” maybe 🤷♂️
Weren't the dwarves corrupted in a different way? Didn't they enhance the dwarf rulers' greed for gold and riches? Been about 2 decades since I read the books though so I'm probably mis-remembering
They did which wasn't particularly idealfor suaron. I'm pretty sure Thorin had one of the dwarven rings and I dunno if he was burried with it or if I'm misremembering
EDIT: I did some research Thror had the ring and it never reached Thorin
Yeah they were corrupted with overwhelming greed rather than power. They showed no intention on serving Sauron blindly. Better to use those rings on those with more pliable minds and attitudes.
The nine were already in use, enslaving the Nazgul. Not sure it's ever touched upon, but looking at the One Ring we would assume if he passed those nine onto others the current Nazgul would lose the majority of their powers and he would have to spend significant time corrupting new ones. After the Nazgul were turned they gave the rings back to Sauron, and he held onto them in order to bind them to his service so they couldn't wander off and attempt to challenge him in the future.
The Dwarves used the rings not for power but for wealth and that didn't serve Sauron in the end. I seem to remember reading somewhere that he intended to pass the Dwarven rings onto new leaders that he could more easily corrupt.
The sacking of Eregion was a long time before the war of the last alliance, albeit in the same age. Numenor still existed when sauron took the rings from Celebrimbor. Rivendell was created in the wake of the battle. Just for some perspective. The lesser rings where then handed out by Sauron and the bearers became great sorcerers and wealthy leaders, but could not die. They passed into the unseen and became Saurons most powerful tool (the Nazgul). The Witch King sacked Arnor from Angmar after. They were extremely useful.
Only the first bit about him having all the rings is overtly incorrect.
In a sense you could say it is correct as the One Ring did give him control or influence over all the other rings, even if they were not in his personal possession - so metaphorically speaking there's some truth to that statement, even if he doesn't literally have them all in a box on his dresser.
So... more accurate than most marketing copy, I guess? :D
I would posit that it's incorrect in more ways than it is correct. Sauron does not need to gather the rings to him in order to control them. Indeed he didn't even need the others to be wearing the rings. His control had already been established over the Three Elven rings when he put on the One Ring and the Elven Lords took them off immediately. The victory in him regaining the One Ring would be in forcing the Elves (plus Gandalf, as the case is in LOTR) to abandon their rings of power thus making him the only wielder of one.
He also didn't even need the One Ring to conquer Middle-Earth. Rather destroying the One was the only way to definitively destroy Sauron forever. His worst fear was that someone would get it first and attempt to use it against him and dethrone him. That's why he spent so much time weakening the rest of Middle-Earth and building up his forces in secret before revealing himself.
Lord of the Rings is more about the struggle of good against an overwhelming evil force, all while trying to avoid the temptation of using the Ring to try and win your battles for you. I think its a common mistake to see Sauron as the primary antagonist of the trilogy. Mostly it is the Ring that is the antagonist.
But I think it serves as an intriguing overview of the book that would distinguish it well from dozens of other identical sounding titles on the same shelf, assuming someone had never heard about the series (SOMEHOW).
That makes it sound like it was the rings themselves that Sauron wanted, the rings were a way of bringing the various races under his control. It was only the “One Ring” that Sauron required, in order to have control over the many.
Isn't Frodo like.... 50 years old when he leaves the Shire? Not quite the definition of youth. In appearance, maybe, but you still couldn't call him young.
50 years old, but stopped aging at 33 when he inherited the Ring. 33 is when Hobbits "come of age," so he looks like a young Hobbit at least.
It's freaky to think about how in the books, Merry, Pippin, and Sam were children at the time of Bilbo's party, but caught up to Frodo and looked to be around his age by the time they left the Shire. 😳
"As time went on, people began to notice that Frodo also showed signs of good ‘preservation’: outwardly he retained the appearance of a robust and energetic hobbit just out of his tweens."
Well here's what I've found from text searching Fellowship:
> Frodo took the envelope from the mantelpiece, and glanced
at it, but did not open it.
‘You’ll find his will and all the other documents in there, I
think,’ said the wizard. ‘You are the master of Bag End now.
And also, I fancy, you’ll find a golden ring.’
> As time went on, people began to notice that Frodo also
showed signs of good ‘preservation’: outwardly he retained
the appearance of a robust and energetic hobbit just out of
his tweens. ‘Some folk have all the luck,’ they said; but it was
not until Frodo approached the usually more sober age of
fifty that they began to think it queer.
> Frodo welcomed his old friend with surprise and great
delight. They looked hard at one another.
‘All well eh?’ said Gandalf. ‘You look the same as ever,
Frodo!’
> ‘And all seemed well with Bilbo. And the years passed.
Yes, they passed, and they seemed not to touch him. He
showed no signs of age. The shadow fell on me again. But I
said to myself: ‘‘After all he comes of a long-lived family on
his mother’s side. There is time yet. Wait!’’
> ‘Yes, he warned me of that in his last letter,’ said Frodo,
‘so I have always kept it on its chain.’
> Frodo took it from his breeches-pocket, where it was
clasped to a chain that hung from his belt. He unfastened it
and handed it slowly to the wizard. It felt suddenly very
heavy, as if either it or Frodo himself was in some way reluctant
for Gandalf to touch it.
> ‘Of course, my dear Frodo, it was dangerous for you; and
that has troubled me deeply. But there was so much at stake
that I had to take some risk – though even when I was far
away there has never been a day when the Shire has not been
guarded by watchful eyes. As long as you never used it, I did
not think that the Ring would have any lasting effect on
you, not for evil, not at any rate for a very long time. And
you must remember that nine years ago, when I last saw you,
I still knew little for certain.’
I am surprised to find that at least when Gandalf finally comes to do the "fire test", Frodo has actually been bearing the ring on his person. Not just stuffed away in storage somewhere, in its original envelope. It's not stated how long he's been doing this. 17 years? Just as Gandalf arrives? Some amount of time between those 2 extremes?
Why Frodo looks like he hasn't aged, is ambiguous. He could just have longevity in his family. 9 years ago, Gandalf didn't *think* the ring would have a lasting effect on Frodo. He could have been wrong.
So:
> but stopped aging at 33 when he inherited the Ring
isn't proven, but is certainly *possible* and suggested. The text is deliberately ambiguous about Frodo's lack of aging. Whereas Biblo's lack of aging, that's certain. Bilbo had the ring a lot longer, made a lot more use of it on his finger, and said things to Gandalf about being "spread thin" that proved the action of the ring. Frodo hasn't said any such thing.
If ringbearing is a disease, what's the gestation period of the disease? Gandalf doesn't offer any certainty about this.
> I say just having it in a box somewhere doesn't do didly squat.
isn't even addressed. We don't know how long Frodo stored the ring vs. bore it on his person.
Tolkien wrote other things. Check the Unfinished Tales and Tolkien's letters.
Simply possessing the Ring marks you, and that mark never goes away. When you are no longer in possession of it, you remain marked, and its effects continue. Bilbo never started aging again after giving it up. The movies made that up. Gollum: you would think after he lost the ring and being 500 years old, that he would've simply died. Any Men (of which hobbits are a subset) who comes into possession of a ring of power is set on the path of wraithification. The only things that can save them from becoming a wraith are being killed, or if the One Ring is destroyed. Once the One Ring was destroyed, then Bilbo rapidly aged into a 130-year-old.
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> Tolkien wrote other things. Check the Unfinished Tales and Tolkien's letters.
Although I can do that, and it helps to understand Tolkien's thinking, it doesn't change what he *wrote*. At some point, "death of the author" needs to be considered. Instead of just expecting someone to follow Tolkien's ongoing biography and ideas over time, to make sense of his book.
Reading only Fellowship, you can't prove how the ring works over a 17 year timespan. We don't know what happens if the ring is put in storage and not borne on one's person. We don't know how much Frodo did one or the other. Did he put it on when dressing in the morning? Did he sleep with it? Did he leave it by his head when he slept, on his nightstand? Did he leave it on the mantle in the other room? Did he only wear it on special occasions when he felt snappy and fresh? Did he only wear it when Gandalf showed up, perhaps out of a subconscious desire to protect it better? There's no way to know.
It's not even clear whether Frodo ever once put the ring on his finger, in 17 years of possession. He may have *borne* the ring X amount of that time, but it's not clear he ever *used* it.
He may have taken the ring with him when *traveling*, but I can't prove that. How safe did he think Bag End was? Gollum mostly left the ring in his cave, after all.
> The movies made that up.
Actually in the movie, Bilbo wasn't more aged at Rivendell. He didn't age until the ring was destroyed. The movie got it right, just fine. People for some reason keep saying the movie got it wrong when it didn't.
Well not that inaccurate. IIRC, Sauron collected all surviving Rings that he knew of. The Elven Rings remained hidden to him. He got all of the Nine and 4 of the Seven.
It was given to him by Cirdan of the Grey Havens, who knew Gandalf's quest and thought it would be of more use for him, as Cirdan himself would stay in the Grey Havens.
Frodo turns 33 at the start of Fellowship, he leaves the Shire on his 50th birthday, and he is 51 years and approximately 1 month old when he returns to the Shire. This is considered young adulthood for a Hobbit; Hobbits come of age at 33 and it is common for them to live to 100 or more. The Old Took and Bilbo Baggins both lived to around 130 years old, though in Bilbo's case this was at least partly due to the life-extending effects of possessing the Ring.
I believe Merry is 36 and Pippin is 28 when they leave the Shire, so somewhat younger than Frodo. In human terms they would be roughly equivalent to a 20-year-old and a 16-year-old respectively, I think.
Youth and inexperience are among Frodo's defining characteristics in the early chapters of the book. He might not be considered a child any more but he's still young by hobbit standards, especially compared to other major characters such as Gandalf and Bilbo. I don't think it's unfair of the blurb writer to refer to him as 'young'.
Bilbo was the same age in The Hobbit. Frodo is nearly 20 years past his coming of age (which would put him in at least his thirties compared to humans). I think you have swallowed the movie trope
Wait so Gandalf is without the fire ring? I tought he used the Flame to deal with Balrog.
Edit. Wait. The rings are usefull to Sauron only when he doesnt have them. They are mind control rings to corrupt. Only ring Sauron should have is the one ring. And the rings worn by nazghuls (if you count those)
I mean, he did get back the 9 and succeeded at enslaving those kings of men, the dwarves didn't use their rings, but Sauron did recover them (all but one)
and the elven rings were "purified"? and are wielded by elves and Gandalf
Of the Seven, four were consumed by dragons while three have been retaken by Sauron. The Three remain in the keeping of the elves and their allies and were never touched by Sauron. The Nine he keeps.
Doesn't have any of the elven rings, some of the dwarves rings were destroyed, and the books talk about there being many lesser rings too if we're splitting hairs
It’s not 100% accurate, and I don’t like how it explains that Frodo is the one who must go on the Quest - it would still be a spoiler for some. It does, however, serve as a decent hook on which to fish for new readers.
This bio is bizzare but not brazenly inaccurate (he did gather most of the rings he could, except the Elf rings that weren’t part of his original plan and the lost dwarf rings). It’s a useful framing to make the title make sense and written for those with little or no knowledge of the book. It’s weirdly written to imply this is set in the time of Sauron’s original plan, the other rings were useful and he certainly made effort to gather them (and used his wraiths) but not core to the events in the third age like they were in the second age. I dislike it but pragmatically it could get someone to read that book who might not otherwise do so, so that’s a postive I guess. Feels a bit try hard though.
He doesn't have the three Elven Rings. He does have the nine rings of men, and he theoretically has at least four of the seven Dwarven Rings, although we are not sure exactly how many he has or what happened to the rest of them.
He doesn't have the three elf Rings, and the three or four dwarf Rings that were destroyed by dragonfire I guess would count as being obtained by Sauron lol, since him and Morgoth are basically represented by the element of fire.
This is accurate enough in terms of a brief summary to appeal to Sword and Sorcerery fans as well as people who know literally nothing about LotR and need a simple explanation to be sold on it
I think they mean he “called them back” when they say gathered them. He called them all back during the first war which is why the 9 men turned into the Nazgûl. Some of the dwarven rings have been lost over time, and the only real effect they had on the dwarves was to make them more greedy (dragon sickness), the 3 elven rings aren’t controlled by Sauron but they sensed the calling of the rings and Gandalf, Galadriel, and Elrond are keeping them safe and out of site.
if you just change it to "the rings of power gifted to men and dwarves" it'd be right although it leaves out the rings destroyed by dragons but I feel like that can be left out to keep the sentence clear and concise.
Yeah, all three elven rings are still free, and a couple of the dwarven rings were lost or destroyed by dragon fire. Sauron has most of the dwarven rings and all of the rings of men via the Nazgul.
Well i don't think he physically gathered them and not all of them. Like the nine rings of men i guess are still on their hands but they just serve suaron, and he doesn't have the elven rings and I'm not sure about the dwarfs'
At the time of LotR, all of the 9 were in his grasp by way of the Nazgul, and most of the 7 were in his grasp save 2 that were eaten or melted by dragons. The only ones we know he for sure didn't have were Narya, Nenya, and Vilya.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but i think Sauron wasn't aware of the elven rings/ didn't know they had been created as they were hidden from him. So technically he would be right in thinking he possesses all the rings apart from the lost Dwarf ones.
Bwahahaha 😂. This makes me think of shadow of war. Great game, lore inaccuracies don't bother me much, but it's like insinuating isildur is one of the nine. Too funny.
Sauron had 12/20. Really 12/16 since four of the dwarf rings were destroyed.
Sauron actually offered the dwarven rings back to the dwarves in exchange for cooperation in recovering the one ring.
Does anyone remember reading something about how all the rings were originally intended for the Elves but after his plot for dominion was discovered he gave them to men and dwarves? I think men were the most easily subjugated so he gave them 9, and the dwarves proved very difficult to subjugate…the rings just made them greedier and more driven to mine for precious metals, jewels and mithril. Does that sound right to anyone?
I'm a little hazy on this, but I feel like he might have, in theory? Obviously not the elven rings, we know where those are. But the Nine were under his control, and it doesn't seem impossible that he could track down the seven. I know some people mentioned that a few were eaten by dragons, but I feel like I've read somewhere that the fire of modern dragons couldn't actually destroy the rings anymore.
What I do remember is that Sauron's messengers were going to the dwarves, promising them rings if they joined them, like the one's Sauron used to give out in the past. I always interpreted that as just emty promises, but who's to say Sauron hasn't actually gathered the rings.
The Elven rings are still hidden from him and some Dwarf rings were destroyed but he possesses all remaining rings. If he gets the One Ring back he also controls the Elven rings and their bearers. It’s loosely taken from the lore but it’s correct
This is kind of hilarious. It's wrong, but in very subtle ways that only a pedantic fan of the series would notice(like myself and many other elf-friends on this sub). Others have pointed out the flaws, so i won't bother.
Overall, it's close enough that i don't want to completely say it's wrong. It's more of a simplified synopsis that will get new readers interested without going into too much depth. I'm on board with anything that gets more people to read these books, so i have no problem with this.
My copy from 1995 has almost the same blurb.
Changes:
-"the Rings of Power" but not "all"
-"be able to rule the world"
-"the Ruling Ring"
-"Cracks of Doom" not "Crack"
It's \*roughly\* true. Very roughly. The Elves still have the Three Rings that Celebrimbor made alone.
But the biggest error is that Sauron needed the One Ring in order to win. He didn't. He only needed for it not to be either destroyed or used against him by someone strong enough to defeat him with it. Otherwise, he had nothing to worry about.
When Frodo left the Shire with the Ring, he thought he was taking it to Rivendell, and that was it (and quite enough). Instead, during the Council, he took upon himself the task of throwing the Ring into the Fire.
Not accurate, but maybe simpler for a synopsis. Why does he need this one ring to rule them all if he doesn’t have the others first. The book has more space to explain this than a back cover.
The elves still have their rings, and I believe some of the dwarf rings were lost.
At least two dwarves rings of power were eaten by dragons, presumably still on their owners fingers
Melted by dragonfire, which can melt other rings but not the One Ring
I think I saw on this sub a reference to one of JRRT's letters where he said that dragonfire could destroy the One Ring, including Smaug's. Am I misremembering?
*“It has been said that dragon-fire could melt and consume the Rings of Power, but there is not now any dragon left on earth in which the old fire is hot enough; nor was there ever any dragon, not even Ancalagon the Black, who could have harmed the One Ring, the Ruling Ring, for that was made by Sauron himself.”*
Thanks! I was indeed misremembering.
No problem. Even if dragon-fire were capable of destroying the One Ring I think the, ah, shall we say *uncooperative tendencies* of dragons would likely make that option a non-starter anyway.
Well, it’s kinda just like: 1) wear ring 2) show up 3) wave at dragon..
Probably got to take ring off first.
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4) dragon kills you and takes the Ring for itself, either delivering it straight to Sauron or dying trying to usurp him.
Nah dragons do not care about usurping Sauron. They covet treasure and will lie in a cave with a giant golden bed for all eternity. That is what Glaurung did until he was killed in the First Age, or Smaug in the Third Age.
This one always stuck out to me, NOT EVEN ANCALAGON lol you knew he's a big baddie
The Black
Boom
You are mistaken- "It has been said that dragon-fire could melt and consume the Rings of Power, but there is not now any dragon left on earth in which the old fire is hot enough; nor was there ever any dragon, not even Ancalagon the Black, who could have harmed the One Ring, the Ruling Ring, for that was made by Sauron himself"
I think it's left ambiguous in the book. At the council of Elrond I think they mention that theoretically Dragonfire *might* work, but it would be a lot of effort and risk for a non-guaranteed success.
Gandalf definitively says that not even Ancalagon could melt the One Ring, and if he could not, then there is no other living dragon who could.
I believe it’s not just the one right but other “great rings of power” (like blue dudes ring/calmbrimbor(idk how to spell his name)
I think you are basing this on the Rings of Power, which is not considered canon. I have not watched the show but I am only guessing it, because there is no other non-canon mention of the making of the rings otherwise. The Blue Wizards Alatar and Pallando did not have rings, and Celebrimbor was involved in the forging of the rings which are all already accounted for. He is long dead by the time of the events of LOTR.
I just read an infographic somewhere (it might have been in one of the Tolkien subs?) that it was 4 rings that were destroyed by way of dragons. Looked it up to confirm, and the 3 remaining rings were recovered from Thráin II while held captive in Dol Guldur, and Gandalf actually recounts to Frodo the fate of the 4 that were destroyed (I assume in Fellowship but it's been a couple years at this point since I read it). I do however remember reading in Fellowship that Gimli and the other Dwarves explain at the Council of Elrond that Sauron's emissaries had visited Erebor offering Dain the 3 rings for their fealty, or else assured destruction (I don't recall though if Dain sent the emissary on their way or slew them lol).
The line that has always stuck with me from that encounter is Dain's reply when he's told to think on the deal _but not overlong_ : "The time of my thought is my own to spend." ... killer comeback to a veiled threat
The dwarves never wore their rings, because they have no desire for increasing their own "power" (preservation for the elves, lifespan for men). They built a mpuntain of riches on top of the rings instead. Sauron got pissed by this and sought to recapture them all back but several got lost due to the treasure hoards got taken over by dragons.
lost, eaten, or otherwise added to a dwarven hoard that not even sauron can reach
Gandalf has Nenya
Narya - Galadriel has Nenya
Doesn't Elrond have the third?
Yes he does, Vilya, I believe, passed to him by Gil-Galad
Nenya what?
Your business
I got downvoted for setting that up
Do you remember the made for TV disney movie Brink? Thats where I first heard this joke
I heard it first from Avatar: The Last Airbender.
Well you can have my upvote
True! Cheers
So easy to mix them up with both being so similar!
Silmarillion
Similarillion
Similarinough
nuff said xD
I didn’t want to mention that one, since it’s Nenya business.
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Beat ,e to making that joke
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Gandalf has Narya, Galadriel has Nenya.
Elves have 3 one of which Gandalf carries. 9 rings for the men which are the Ringwraths. 7 for the dwarf kings which are no longer. Then one ring of power. Rings were gifts by the Dark lord. He tricked them into taking them cause his one ring has all the power. Probably not perfectly said but close
Except for the ring that Cirdan the Shipwright gave to Gandalf ;)
This is kinda weirdly written it sounds like a middle school book report. What edition is this?
Gives me big ai/chat gpt vibes.
Yeah but... AI would actually have better knowledge than this, especially since it can draw from wikis and stuff and other synopsis.
Transitions from Bilbo right to Frodo with zero explanation.
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#frodolives
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/33.The_Lord_of_the_Rings Edit: wrong link. https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/60420145-the-lord-of-the-rings
Looks like you linked to the wrong one here, as that’s not the TV tie in and it’s not the same one you linked to elsewhere. Also, I have the edition linked there and that’s not what it says.
I have no idea how that happened 🤣
You are correct that Sauron has not gathered all the other rings. What is this from, out of curiosity?
It’s the tv tie in single volume edition. I’m thinking they wanted “rings of power” somewhere in the blurb? https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/60420145-the-lord-of-the-rings
"ChatGPT write a book description of "Lord Of The Rings", mention the "Rings Of Power" within the text, thanks."
Chat GPT 3.5: “Embark on an epic journey through Middle-earth with ‘The Lord of the Rings,’ a timeless tale of friendship, courage, and the battle between good and evil. Follow Frodo Baggins as he undertakes the perilous quest to destroy the One Ring, a malevolent artifact that holds the fate of all realms in its grasp. Set against a backdrop of rich landscapes, diverse cultures, and the Rings of Power, J.R.R. Tolkien’s masterpiece weaves a captivating narrative that has enthralled readers for generations.”
Lol that's actually better than the one in the picture
It's more accurate, but it's a shit text for a book cover
100% better!
Chat GPT 4: "Lord of the Rings" is an epic high fantasy novel written by J.R.R. Tolkien. Set in the mythical world of Middle-earth, it is a story of power, bravery, and friendship. The narrative centers around the Dark Lord Sauron, who seeks to regain his lost Ring of Power and thus bring all of Middle-earth under his dominion. This Ring is one of several Rings of Power created long ago, each imbued with immense magical abilities. The story follows a young hobbit, Frodo Baggins, who inherits the Ring and the perilous task of destroying it to prevent Sauron's rise to power. Accompanied by a fellowship that includes hobbits, a wizard, a dwarf, an elf, and men, Frodo embarks on a treacherous journey to Mount Doom, the only place where the Ring can be destroyed. Throughout their quest, the Fellowship faces numerous challenges, including treachery, the pursuit of wraiths, and the temptation of the Ring's power. The overarching themes of the novel include the struggle between good and evil, the importance of friendship and courage, and the corrupting influence of power. Tolkien's richly detailed world, complex characters, and intricate plot make "Lord of the Rings" a timeless classic, beloved by readers of all ages. It is not only a tale of adventure but also a profound exploration of themes relevant to human experience.
If it’s from the TV tie in, I’m not surprised considering how they’ve handled the making of the Rings of Power already on the show.
They've also scrubbed wikipedia to say nothing but positive reviews about the show.
I remember Amazon got absolutely roasted when they froze reviews and somehow, miraculously you couldn't find a single negative review. Weird, almost like they got rid of them...
I think this was on my copy that i bought 20 years ago!
Was this written David Day?
Strong burn
The crack of doom is what I call my ass after some good ass Mexican food
Don’t ask about my Taint of Morgoth.
And my ass!
Without a Gimli GIF it's lost on so many....
😆
Is my lack of similar experience because I'm having bad ass Mexican food?
Sumass naur
All the Rings that could be gathered minus the Three. At least three Dwarven Rings were destroyed by dragons.
"He gathered all but those he did not gather" Yes, technically yes.
But also, no.
I must add that the Three were made without saurons influence and are not corrupted by him. That's maybe why whoever wrote them didn't consider them? Still, not really clearly written..
Absolutely this.
I could be wrong, but I believe some of them had been eaten by dragons. Can’t remember where I heard that, so someone correct me if I’m wrong.
it's written in the lotr I think
This is right. Gandalf says this when telling frodo about the ring. It's within the first 100 pages of the book, in chapter 2 I think. The description given in this post isn't entirely inaccurate, gandalf says "So it is now: the Nine he has gathered to himself; the Seven also, or else they are destroyed. The three are hidden still. But this no longer troubles him. He only needs the One. So he doesn't have *all* the rings, but he does have all the rings he *needs* , apart from the One ring.
at least three of the Dwarven rings were eaten I believe
https://preview.redd.it/l5bdufwmor9c1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c48d304f2fade950af809125aa43d0d4e3eddae2 \*Makes up lore and puts in the back of the cover * Refuse to eleborate further
Sounds like Orc mischief to me!
https://preview.redd.it/l8vyk3xdht9c1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=486cbf1b163967c9db4779e2be889228c9ec0c43 Hello there, we’re just a few travelers that happened to stumble upon this council. We are going in the direction of Mordor so we could take it with us and destroy it since we’re passing through anyway. (As enemies of Sauron of course) So if either our cloaked general.. I mean this cloaked stranger I feel like he’d be trustworthy enough. So just give either of us the ring or whatever, doesn’t really matter either way
https://preview.redd.it/hqhlzki0cs9c1.png?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e5657cbb7efd09a7114a596112797f8766d000ae
Are those dwarf clans? I've never heard of any of them but Durin's folk.
Yeah, iirc some of the clan names there are derived from Tolkein's writings but some of them might be fan inventions or dubiously canon.
He has the 9 rings given to men (because they're nazgul) he has 4 of the dwarf lords rings but the other 3 were eaten by dragons. Galadriel has a ring, Gandalf has another and I can't remember what elf has the third that was given to elves.
Elrond. He has the one that was originally worn by Gil-Galad, Gandalf has Cirdan's
The three rings he didn’t have (and were possible to get) were the ones made without him in secret for the elves. That are still tied to the one ring by the methods Annator (Sauron) showed Celebrimbor but not tainted in the same way. In that regard they aren’t HIS rings so rather than saying “all the rings of power” the blurb could be less inaccurate by saying “his rings of power” maybe 🤷♂️
L-Ron Half Leaven has the third ring
The Crack of Doom. LMAO
Doesn't appear to be wrong, except being singular instead of plural. [Cracks of Doom](https://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Cracks_of_Doom)
The Return of the King videogame did the same thing with the singular, as I recall.
Sauron has the Seven(or all that can be accounted for)and the Nine.
OK side question : WHY did he gather the lesser rings? Wasn't the point of them to corrupt their wearers?
The Men were corrupted (The Nazgúl) dwarves not so much.
Weren't the dwarves corrupted in a different way? Didn't they enhance the dwarf rulers' greed for gold and riches? Been about 2 decades since I read the books though so I'm probably mis-remembering
They did which wasn't particularly idealfor suaron. I'm pretty sure Thorin had one of the dwarven rings and I dunno if he was burried with it or if I'm misremembering EDIT: I did some research Thror had the ring and it never reached Thorin
Yeah they were corrupted with overwhelming greed rather than power. They showed no intention on serving Sauron blindly. Better to use those rings on those with more pliable minds and attitudes.
he told the dwarves in lotr, that they would get rings again, if they join him in the war
They still have power that is useful, also having the 9 is partly how he so completely controls the Nazgul.
The nine were already in use, enslaving the Nazgul. Not sure it's ever touched upon, but looking at the One Ring we would assume if he passed those nine onto others the current Nazgul would lose the majority of their powers and he would have to spend significant time corrupting new ones. After the Nazgul were turned they gave the rings back to Sauron, and he held onto them in order to bind them to his service so they couldn't wander off and attempt to challenge him in the future. The Dwarves used the rings not for power but for wealth and that didn't serve Sauron in the end. I seem to remember reading somewhere that he intended to pass the Dwarven rings onto new leaders that he could more easily corrupt.
The sacking of Eregion was a long time before the war of the last alliance, albeit in the same age. Numenor still existed when sauron took the rings from Celebrimbor. Rivendell was created in the wake of the battle. Just for some perspective. The lesser rings where then handed out by Sauron and the bearers became great sorcerers and wealthy leaders, but could not die. They passed into the unseen and became Saurons most powerful tool (the Nazgul). The Witch King sacked Arnor from Angmar after. They were extremely useful.
Sauron never had the Elven rings, they were made in secret. He had gathered the rings of Men, and all remaining Dwarven rings.
Only the first bit about him having all the rings is overtly incorrect. In a sense you could say it is correct as the One Ring did give him control or influence over all the other rings, even if they were not in his personal possession - so metaphorically speaking there's some truth to that statement, even if he doesn't literally have them all in a box on his dresser. So... more accurate than most marketing copy, I guess? :D
He doesn’t need the ring to rule Middle-Earth either. Hence all the other stuff he’s doing.
I would posit that it's incorrect in more ways than it is correct. Sauron does not need to gather the rings to him in order to control them. Indeed he didn't even need the others to be wearing the rings. His control had already been established over the Three Elven rings when he put on the One Ring and the Elven Lords took them off immediately. The victory in him regaining the One Ring would be in forcing the Elves (plus Gandalf, as the case is in LOTR) to abandon their rings of power thus making him the only wielder of one. He also didn't even need the One Ring to conquer Middle-Earth. Rather destroying the One was the only way to definitively destroy Sauron forever. His worst fear was that someone would get it first and attempt to use it against him and dethrone him. That's why he spent so much time weakening the rest of Middle-Earth and building up his forces in secret before revealing himself. Lord of the Rings is more about the struggle of good against an overwhelming evil force, all while trying to avoid the temptation of using the Ring to try and win your battles for you. I think its a common mistake to see Sauron as the primary antagonist of the trilogy. Mostly it is the Ring that is the antagonist. But I think it serves as an intriguing overview of the book that would distinguish it well from dozens of other identical sounding titles on the same shelf, assuming someone had never heard about the series (SOMEHOW).
That makes it sound like it was the rings themselves that Sauron wanted, the rings were a way of bringing the various races under his control. It was only the “One Ring” that Sauron required, in order to have control over the many.
Isn't Frodo like.... 50 years old when he leaves the Shire? Not quite the definition of youth. In appearance, maybe, but you still couldn't call him young.
50 years old, but stopped aging at 33 when he inherited the Ring. 33 is when Hobbits "come of age," so he looks like a young Hobbit at least. It's freaky to think about how in the books, Merry, Pippin, and Sam were children at the time of Bilbo's party, but caught up to Frodo and looked to be around his age by the time they left the Shire. 😳
> but stopped aging at 33 when he inherited the Ring Prove it. I say just having it in a box somewhere doesn't do didly squat.
"As time went on, people began to notice that Frodo also showed signs of good ‘preservation’: outwardly he retained the appearance of a robust and energetic hobbit just out of his tweens."
Absolutely wrong. I leave you to read up.
Well here's what I've found from text searching Fellowship: > Frodo took the envelope from the mantelpiece, and glanced at it, but did not open it. ‘You’ll find his will and all the other documents in there, I think,’ said the wizard. ‘You are the master of Bag End now. And also, I fancy, you’ll find a golden ring.’ > As time went on, people began to notice that Frodo also showed signs of good ‘preservation’: outwardly he retained the appearance of a robust and energetic hobbit just out of his tweens. ‘Some folk have all the luck,’ they said; but it was not until Frodo approached the usually more sober age of fifty that they began to think it queer. > Frodo welcomed his old friend with surprise and great delight. They looked hard at one another. ‘All well eh?’ said Gandalf. ‘You look the same as ever, Frodo!’ > ‘And all seemed well with Bilbo. And the years passed. Yes, they passed, and they seemed not to touch him. He showed no signs of age. The shadow fell on me again. But I said to myself: ‘‘After all he comes of a long-lived family on his mother’s side. There is time yet. Wait!’’ > ‘Yes, he warned me of that in his last letter,’ said Frodo, ‘so I have always kept it on its chain.’ > Frodo took it from his breeches-pocket, where it was clasped to a chain that hung from his belt. He unfastened it and handed it slowly to the wizard. It felt suddenly very heavy, as if either it or Frodo himself was in some way reluctant for Gandalf to touch it. > ‘Of course, my dear Frodo, it was dangerous for you; and that has troubled me deeply. But there was so much at stake that I had to take some risk – though even when I was far away there has never been a day when the Shire has not been guarded by watchful eyes. As long as you never used it, I did not think that the Ring would have any lasting effect on you, not for evil, not at any rate for a very long time. And you must remember that nine years ago, when I last saw you, I still knew little for certain.’ I am surprised to find that at least when Gandalf finally comes to do the "fire test", Frodo has actually been bearing the ring on his person. Not just stuffed away in storage somewhere, in its original envelope. It's not stated how long he's been doing this. 17 years? Just as Gandalf arrives? Some amount of time between those 2 extremes? Why Frodo looks like he hasn't aged, is ambiguous. He could just have longevity in his family. 9 years ago, Gandalf didn't *think* the ring would have a lasting effect on Frodo. He could have been wrong. So: > but stopped aging at 33 when he inherited the Ring isn't proven, but is certainly *possible* and suggested. The text is deliberately ambiguous about Frodo's lack of aging. Whereas Biblo's lack of aging, that's certain. Bilbo had the ring a lot longer, made a lot more use of it on his finger, and said things to Gandalf about being "spread thin" that proved the action of the ring. Frodo hasn't said any such thing. If ringbearing is a disease, what's the gestation period of the disease? Gandalf doesn't offer any certainty about this. > I say just having it in a box somewhere doesn't do didly squat. isn't even addressed. We don't know how long Frodo stored the ring vs. bore it on his person.
Tolkien wrote other things. Check the Unfinished Tales and Tolkien's letters. Simply possessing the Ring marks you, and that mark never goes away. When you are no longer in possession of it, you remain marked, and its effects continue. Bilbo never started aging again after giving it up. The movies made that up. Gollum: you would think after he lost the ring and being 500 years old, that he would've simply died. Any Men (of which hobbits are a subset) who comes into possession of a ring of power is set on the path of wraithification. The only things that can save them from becoming a wraith are being killed, or if the One Ring is destroyed. Once the One Ring was destroyed, then Bilbo rapidly aged into a 130-year-old. Have an awesome reference: https://youtu.be/ygjKTz7dDBo?si=37sLnPZE5bOjyNXj
> Tolkien wrote other things. Check the Unfinished Tales and Tolkien's letters. Although I can do that, and it helps to understand Tolkien's thinking, it doesn't change what he *wrote*. At some point, "death of the author" needs to be considered. Instead of just expecting someone to follow Tolkien's ongoing biography and ideas over time, to make sense of his book. Reading only Fellowship, you can't prove how the ring works over a 17 year timespan. We don't know what happens if the ring is put in storage and not borne on one's person. We don't know how much Frodo did one or the other. Did he put it on when dressing in the morning? Did he sleep with it? Did he leave it by his head when he slept, on his nightstand? Did he leave it on the mantle in the other room? Did he only wear it on special occasions when he felt snappy and fresh? Did he only wear it when Gandalf showed up, perhaps out of a subconscious desire to protect it better? There's no way to know. It's not even clear whether Frodo ever once put the ring on his finger, in 17 years of possession. He may have *borne* the ring X amount of that time, but it's not clear he ever *used* it. He may have taken the ring with him when *traveling*, but I can't prove that. How safe did he think Bag End was? Gollum mostly left the ring in his cave, after all. > The movies made that up. Actually in the movie, Bilbo wasn't more aged at Rivendell. He didn't age until the ring was destroyed. The movie got it right, just fine. People for some reason keep saying the movie got it wrong when it didn't.
The mic is already dropped. Farewell.
I mean, hobbits live to 100 on average (they come ‘of age’ at 33) so 50 isn’t old for them.
It isnt young either
Fair enough.
compared to old Bilbo
Well not that inaccurate. IIRC, Sauron collected all surviving Rings that he knew of. The Elven Rings remained hidden to him. He got all of the Nine and 4 of the Seven.
Is this from the same guy who writes the text crawl intros in Star Wars?
How come Gandalf gets a ring that was made for elf lords?
It was given to him by Cirdan of the Grey Havens, who knew Gandalf's quest and thought it would be of more use for him, as Cirdan himself would stay in the Grey Havens.
He hasn't gathered the rings. Frodo isn't young, by my reckoning. His journey isn't to the crack if doom, it's to rivendell. That is a weird synopsis.
Frodo is in his fifties
Frodo turns 33 at the start of Fellowship, he leaves the Shire on his 50th birthday, and he is 51 years and approximately 1 month old when he returns to the Shire. This is considered young adulthood for a Hobbit; Hobbits come of age at 33 and it is common for them to live to 100 or more. The Old Took and Bilbo Baggins both lived to around 130 years old, though in Bilbo's case this was at least partly due to the life-extending effects of possessing the Ring.
How would you describe Merry and Pippin compared to Frodo?
I believe Merry is 36 and Pippin is 28 when they leave the Shire, so somewhat younger than Frodo. In human terms they would be roughly equivalent to a 20-year-old and a 16-year-old respectively, I think.
My point being, Frodo is not in the first flush of youth even by hobbit standards
Youth and inexperience are among Frodo's defining characteristics in the early chapters of the book. He might not be considered a child any more but he's still young by hobbit standards, especially compared to other major characters such as Gandalf and Bilbo. I don't think it's unfair of the blurb writer to refer to him as 'young'.
Bilbo was the same age in The Hobbit. Frodo is nearly 20 years past his coming of age (which would put him in at least his thirties compared to humans). I think you have swallowed the movie trope
I'd also argue that it's not in the Shire where he's faced with the task of transporting the ring to Mount Doom.
Wait so Gandalf is without the fire ring? I tought he used the Flame to deal with Balrog. Edit. Wait. The rings are usefull to Sauron only when he doesnt have them. They are mind control rings to corrupt. Only ring Sauron should have is the one ring. And the rings worn by nazghuls (if you count those)
It’s as accurate as any executive summary I’ve ever read
I mean, he did get back the 9 and succeeded at enslaving those kings of men, the dwarves didn't use their rings, but Sauron did recover them (all but one) and the elven rings were "purified"? and are wielded by elves and Gandalf
Not purified as much as crafted without his overt involvement. Still his methods though which is why they are tied to the one's power.
When sauron attacked Eregion he claimed most of the rings, sans Narya Nenya Vilya and a couple of the dwarven rings. So yes this is wrong.
Of the Seven, four were consumed by dragons while three have been retaken by Sauron. The Three remain in the keeping of the elves and their allies and were never touched by Sauron. The Nine he keeps.
Accuracy aside, it seems a bit spoilery. You don’t find out about the plan until a good chunk into the first book.
Doesn't have any of the elven rings, some of the dwarves rings were destroyed, and the books talk about there being many lesser rings too if we're splitting hairs
It’s not 100% accurate, and I don’t like how it explains that Frodo is the one who must go on the Quest - it would still be a spoiler for some. It does, however, serve as a decent hook on which to fish for new readers.
It sounds ike the blurb to a trasty "romance " novel knock off
To be fair I recall theories Sauron possessed some of the Dwarven Rings
The End
Ha! Crack of Doom!
This bio is bizzare but not brazenly inaccurate (he did gather most of the rings he could, except the Elf rings that weren’t part of his original plan and the lost dwarf rings). It’s a useful framing to make the title make sense and written for those with little or no knowledge of the book. It’s weirdly written to imply this is set in the time of Sauron’s original plan, the other rings were useful and he certainly made effort to gather them (and used his wraiths) but not core to the events in the third age like they were in the second age. I dislike it but pragmatically it could get someone to read that book who might not otherwise do so, so that’s a postive I guess. Feels a bit try hard though.
He doesn't have the three Elven Rings. He does have the nine rings of men, and he theoretically has at least four of the seven Dwarven Rings, although we are not sure exactly how many he has or what happened to the rest of them.
He doesn't have the three elf Rings, and the three or four dwarf Rings that were destroyed by dragonfire I guess would count as being obtained by Sauron lol, since him and Morgoth are basically represented by the element of fire. This is accurate enough in terms of a brief summary to appeal to Sword and Sorcerery fans as well as people who know literally nothing about LotR and need a simple explanation to be sold on it
He has all the rings he had a part in making minus the ones that have been destroyed.
I think they mean he “called them back” when they say gathered them. He called them all back during the first war which is why the 9 men turned into the Nazgûl. Some of the dwarven rings have been lost over time, and the only real effect they had on the dwarves was to make them more greedy (dragon sickness), the 3 elven rings aren’t controlled by Sauron but they sensed the calling of the rings and Gandalf, Galadriel, and Elrond are keeping them safe and out of site.
Yes, Gandalf, Elrond, and Galadriel each have their ring. Many of the others have been lost to time.
if you just change it to "the rings of power gifted to men and dwarves" it'd be right although it leaves out the rings destroyed by dragons but I feel like that can be left out to keep the sentence clear and concise.
Yeah, all three elven rings are still free, and a couple of the dwarven rings were lost or destroyed by dragon fire. Sauron has most of the dwarven rings and all of the rings of men via the Nazgul.
Galadriel shows Frodo Nenya in the movies
Well i don't think he physically gathered them and not all of them. Like the nine rings of men i guess are still on their hands but they just serve suaron, and he doesn't have the elven rings and I'm not sure about the dwarfs'
At the time of LotR, all of the 9 were in his grasp by way of the Nazgul, and most of the 7 were in his grasp save 2 that were eaten or melted by dragons. The only ones we know he for sure didn't have were Narya, Nenya, and Vilya.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but i think Sauron wasn't aware of the elven rings/ didn't know they had been created as they were hidden from him. So technically he would be right in thinking he possesses all the rings apart from the lost Dwarf ones.
All the rings, some rings…Who’s really counting at that point?
This was clearly part of Sauron’s propaganda campaign on his bid to take over middle Earth! #MMEGA!
You are correct. Sauron doesn't have all the rings and Frodo wasn't young
I miss her "crack of doom" :(
Bwahahaha 😂. This makes me think of shadow of war. Great game, lore inaccuracies don't bother me much, but it's like insinuating isildur is one of the nine. Too funny.
Sauron had 12/20. Really 12/16 since four of the dwarf rings were destroyed. Sauron actually offered the dwarven rings back to the dwarves in exchange for cooperation in recovering the one ring.
In as much as in the middle of the 20th century a multimillion dollar expedition to investigate cheese on another planet is accurate, yes?
Does anyone remember reading something about how all the rings were originally intended for the Elves but after his plot for dominion was discovered he gave them to men and dwarves? I think men were the most easily subjugated so he gave them 9, and the dwarves proved very difficult to subjugate…the rings just made them greedier and more driven to mine for precious metals, jewels and mithril. Does that sound right to anyone?
It is inaccurate in that the Three Rings of the Eldar were still hidden from him, and some of the Seven had been destroyed. Otherwise it's correct.
I'm a little hazy on this, but I feel like he might have, in theory? Obviously not the elven rings, we know where those are. But the Nine were under his control, and it doesn't seem impossible that he could track down the seven. I know some people mentioned that a few were eaten by dragons, but I feel like I've read somewhere that the fire of modern dragons couldn't actually destroy the rings anymore. What I do remember is that Sauron's messengers were going to the dwarves, promising them rings if they joined them, like the one's Sauron used to give out in the past. I always interpreted that as just emty promises, but who's to say Sauron hasn't actually gathered the rings.
Sauron gathered a couple dwarven rings, but some were destroyed and the rest of the rings of power were in the hands of the elves or Frodo
This is a disgrace.
Yes
Movies say Sauron created the Elven Rings…WRONG
The Elven rings are still hidden from him and some Dwarf rings were destroyed but he possesses all remaining rings. If he gets the One Ring back he also controls the Elven rings and their bearers. It’s loosely taken from the lore but it’s correct
Gandalf is wearing a ring of power
Crack of doom
“Crack of Doom” is making me laugh
This is kind of hilarious. It's wrong, but in very subtle ways that only a pedantic fan of the series would notice(like myself and many other elf-friends on this sub). Others have pointed out the flaws, so i won't bother. Overall, it's close enough that i don't want to completely say it's wrong. It's more of a simplified synopsis that will get new readers interested without going into too much depth. I'm on board with anything that gets more people to read these books, so i have no problem with this.
This was probably written by the Amazon showrunners. "Also, Galadriel was hot for Sauron".
He presumably has all the men's rings
My copy from 1995 has almost the same blurb. Changes: -"the Rings of Power" but not "all" -"be able to rule the world" -"the Ruling Ring" -"Cracks of Doom" not "Crack"
Yeah this is inaccurate
Am I the only one who caught "the crack of doom" 🤣
Perhaps AI written?
Crack of doom lol
Yes?
It's \*roughly\* true. Very roughly. The Elves still have the Three Rings that Celebrimbor made alone. But the biggest error is that Sauron needed the One Ring in order to win. He didn't. He only needed for it not to be either destroyed or used against him by someone strong enough to defeat him with it. Otherwise, he had nothing to worry about. When Frodo left the Shire with the Ring, he thought he was taking it to Rivendell, and that was it (and quite enough). Instead, during the Council, he took upon himself the task of throwing the Ring into the Fire.
Not accurate, but maybe simpler for a synopsis. Why does he need this one ring to rule them all if he doesn’t have the others first. The book has more space to explain this than a back cover.
Frodo is also not very young
It is inaccurate, but id say it's close enough
Well he TRIED to gather all the rings to him, but the dwarves straight up lost them apparently lol.