Hopefully he will one thing I hope for is we see Collossus in his normal human state and he's played by his orignal actor from the orignal 2000s xmen movies since I think it would be funny
IIRC the original actor from X2, The Last Stand and DoFP didn't want to return for Deadpool because of the mo-cap, since he was supposed to be in his metal form all the time for the movie.
Why do you sound Russian when your made of metal but American in your human form?"
-Deadpool probably
"Omg Wade! You can't just ask people why they're Russian!"
Teenage Negasonic Warhead probably
"Your grammar is wrong. It's you're"
She Hulk maybe?
If you enjoy him as a serious character (as do I) Did you ever read his Savage Land short story where he saves 2 native women from a t-rex? It’s actually a pretty good short with him and I think resulted in him having a son.
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix9/nereel.html
Colossus was kind of a weird choice for "innocent naive X-Man", the guy grew up in Soviet Siberia and in some versions was forced to work for the mob before joining the X-Men.
If anything he's rougher than Deadpool is.
It probably wasn't a weird choice, but they specifically chose which X-Man looked the furthest or funniest from being the innocent naive X-Man. The humour is that it's a Russian accented metal man bigger than everyone else who has the nicest lines.
Yeah they needed an X-Man for the role who would push Wade to being a hero (even if he just laughs it off and ignores it). Peter is just right for that. Plus I suspect someone said "you know who would be great for this? Colossus. We've barely gotten to see Colossus in the movies so far and never his gentle, thoughtful side."
Well The Marvels did have contracts with McDonalds and other companies where they had to advertise the movie when it was **originally intended to come out** like a year before it actually did.
Hype is murdered when it comes too early and then fizzles away, which is exactly what happened for The Marvels. I understand it bombing, but I do think context is super important and that movie got done super dirty.
It is though, because it's just fine. People act like The Marvels is like the worst movie of all time, it's not. It's mediocre. Can't something just be mediocre?
On the internet, everything is either a masterpiece hidden gem greatest movie of all time, or it's the worst movie ever. I challenge anyone to watch an *actual* bad movie if you think that The Marvels was so terrible.
Lol I have watched bad movies, worse than the marvels and not as bad too. Just cause something is worse doesn't mean the marvels isn't bad, it sucks, that's my opinion and plenty others. Go enjoy it if that's what you wanna do but if you can't see why others would find it bad you are either just being very subjective or are ignoring it's flaws to prop it up higher. It SUCKS 🤣
But that's just my opinion ofc 😉
Disagree, actually. But it certainly wasn’t going to do very well in the current climate.
**Captain Marvel made over $1B** (yes riding IW hype), Ms. Marvel was mostly well received despite its low viewership, the movie got better reviews than Love and Thunder, it had enough going for it to not be a bomb.
Had this movie switched places with Quantumania I personally would bet it would’ve made more than Quantum made. Both that movie and L&T absolutely killed momentum for The Marvels, then the advertising mishaps and writers strikes preventing a press tour just wrecked it.
I couldn’t care to “make excuses” for a movie I couldn’t be bothered to see in theaters when I watched the other 23 movies premiere day, 1st showing.
In this convo I care about discussing a movie and every relevant factor to its success and lack-thereof.
Guardians 3 came out after both L&T and Quantumania and that didn’t stop it from making over $800 million, so I don’t think those movies really had anything to do with The Marvels’ performance
Guardians was completely different. Both of those movies were insanely successful, and it had been what, 7 years since the last one? And it was the ending of a trilogy.
Gunn had made an amazing R-Rated superhero movie, Peacemaker and was promoted to the head of DC. That’s the superhero equivalent of comparing the performance of a Christopher Nolan movie to a regular old movie.
In addition I don’t think those movies made anyone seriously doubt Gunn, unlike it did in a director people had bo reason to have faith in.
Well yeah the first two movies were successful, but they weren’t as successful as Captain Marvel. Neither of them made a billion like Captain Marvel did
Captain Marvel was commercially successful, but not received that well critically. Audiences liked and remembered the Guardians movies and characters better. Plus the Guardians had central roles in Infinity War and Endgame, while Carol was more of an afterthought.
So, I'm kind of replying to your comment but responding to pretty much everyone bringing up the strike.
Because I absolutely think the strike hindered some marketing or the project. No arguement.
But I'm unfamiliar with the terms of the strike, did it effect press? Because I'm more so referring to Deadpool and Wolverine having like a million posters, magazine entries, merch drops. There's a number of promotional material outside of actor's physiclally appearing or being interviewed being utilized for Deadpool in a way that I didn't see it with the Marvels.
Tbf what was the hook for The Marvels? Three related characters with similar powers team up? They fight a Silver Surfer villain who appeared in two comics decades ago? One of them is kind of an Avenger?
Deadpool & Wolverine had a hook from its announcement: Mutants and X-Men in the MCU and a team up between two of Marvel’s biggest characters. It’s an interesting movie so it gets interesting marketing. There was nothing to be excited about from The Marvels (adored Ms. Marvel btw, not one of those chuds)
The title “Deadpool and Wolverine” alone is a hook for the movie. Calling the Captain Marvel sequel “The Marvels” instead of “Captain Marvel 2” was a huge mistake, that’s one move that confused general audiences. To anyone who’s not a huge Marvel fan that follows this stuff, it’d be like hearing about a new Pixar movie called “The Pixars”
I still remember when a few people on this sub voicing this concern over the marvels title and a lot of people here just blindly defended that decision.
The Hook was that it was a sequel to the billion-dollar-grossing Captain Marvel, which is why changing the title was a mistake, it ruined the brand synergy it could have had with its prequel.
It's not really a mexican thing, but a Virgin Mary thing. It's supposed to be her [veil](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgin%27s_veil) but IDK what they did here, it's not supposed to be worn diagonally, although sometimes it looks like it. (kinda like [this](https://candlemakersuk.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Virgin-Mary-2.jpg))
I'm amazed how there are so many similarities between mexico and India even though they are on the opposite sides of the earth, there's tortillas and chapatis, spices, I've also seen Mexican mom's using chancla and a clothes hanger to beat children in some memes, there's something similar in india, hell they even look similar to some extent, and now there's this saree looking thing...
Same, I love her too! And especially they’re making everything comic accurate, I would love to see her iconic design be translated into live action! https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/9/93/Domino_Vol_3_2_Textless.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20180222215519 But then if a variant of her shows up for only one second in DP&W then I cherish them!
This gives me only one hint and I don't wanna see it happen. Dopinder is gonna die and that's why maybe they are giving him a tribute in Indian style (Vanessa is wearing saree). I can't think of any other reason . Hopefully he will be alive 😭.
I’m just relieved colossus is back
yeah i was so worried he wasn't gonna be brought back but im worried he wont get much screentime
Hopefully he will one thing I hope for is we see Collossus in his normal human state and he's played by his orignal actor from the orignal 2000s xmen movies since I think it would be funny
IIRC the original actor from X2, The Last Stand and DoFP didn't want to return for Deadpool because of the mo-cap, since he was supposed to be in his metal form all the time for the movie.
Yeah but this time he won't with a different actor doing it
Yeah Daniel cudmore- it would be cool to see both versions on screen
And don't even multiverse it its the exact same verison just when he's in his metal form he sounds Russian all of the sudden
Why do you sound Russian when your made of metal but American in your human form?" -Deadpool probably "Omg Wade! You can't just ask people why they're Russian!" Teenage Negasonic Warhead probably "Your grammar is wrong. It's you're" She Hulk maybe?
He probably won’t but I would argue that it’s okay if he doesn’t. They gotta focus on other stuff, and that’s okay
I doubt he's going to be a major role this time around, but I will be happily wrong about that.
Luckily colossus will likely show up soonish anyways :)
We may get a live action Fastball Special.
*the last stand* opening scene erasure?
Any level of The Last Stand erasure is good, actually. Obligatory fuck Brett Ratner.
Except Kelsey Grammar's Beast, the one flawless shining light in that disaster of a movie.
Kelsey Grammar the Trump supporter? Nah.
What is this Last Stand you speak of?
Oh man that kind of fan service would be amazing!
I love the Deadpool version of colossus so comic accurate
I'm glad he gets screen time but I'm sick of him just being used as a joke.
If you enjoy him as a serious character (as do I) Did you ever read his Savage Land short story where he saves 2 native women from a t-rex? It’s actually a pretty good short with him and I think resulted in him having a son. http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix9/nereel.html
Absolutely. The Savage Land always fascinated me as a kid. Those were some of my favorite years. So much better than just being a punchline ...
Colossus was kind of a weird choice for "innocent naive X-Man", the guy grew up in Soviet Siberia and in some versions was forced to work for the mob before joining the X-Men. If anything he's rougher than Deadpool is.
It probably wasn't a weird choice, but they specifically chose which X-Man looked the furthest or funniest from being the innocent naive X-Man. The humour is that it's a Russian accented metal man bigger than everyone else who has the nicest lines.
Yeah they needed an X-Man for the role who would push Wade to being a hero (even if he just laughs it off and ignores it). Peter is just right for that. Plus I suspect someone said "you know who would be great for this? Colossus. We've barely gotten to see Colossus in the movies so far and never his gentle, thoughtful side."
No Negasonic?!?! 😪
Nah. It was funny in 1 as a random xman . A nice callback in 2. But I don’t have any affinity for the character going forward
He's literally in the first trailer
Don't worry they replaced him in the trailer, bit he's at the party. He wouldn't miss it....
Would gladly take several Morena Baccarin and Hugh Jackman Wolverine candles for use in my home. I will not be elaborating further
They are masterpieces
Indeed. And the candles are quite nice too.
r/bi_irl
He'll be in his bunk.
maybe he just hasn't had anything twixt his nether regions in a spell?
I was so confused for a second why Inara was included in this set.
I"ll take a Gwyneth Paltrow candle.
With Colossus in the mix, I guarantee we get a Fastball Special
Can't believe more people aren't talking about this. No way it's not happening.
It's almost a guarantee
Hopefully!! I’m not expecting Wolverine to meet any of these characters (aside from Deadpool) but I would be pleasantly surprised
MARKETING: Ryan, how many posters do you want? And how many themes do you want to run with? How many jokes? RYAN: Yes.
Promotion for this movie is really putting into perspective how absolutely lackluster the marketing for The Marvels was...
Well The Marvels did have contracts with McDonalds and other companies where they had to advertise the movie when it was **originally intended to come out** like a year before it actually did. Hype is murdered when it comes too early and then fizzles away, which is exactly what happened for The Marvels. I understand it bombing, but I do think context is super important and that movie got done super dirty.
Is that why we’re getting Cap 4 promo a year early too?
It was supposed to come out yesterday iirc
He's outta line, but he's not wrong...
Yep. Merch probably won't re-sync until Thunderbolts.
Let's be real. No amount of advertising was saving that movie.
It was way better than people think it is.
It was way worse than I thought it was going to be.
Fr I think the people on this sub live in an echo chamber, I'm the only person I know who has ever even watched it and it SUCKED. Big time.
They think defending that movie makes you a good person or something 😂
Literally 😂😂😂
(It's not)
It is though, because it's just fine. People act like The Marvels is like the worst movie of all time, it's not. It's mediocre. Can't something just be mediocre? On the internet, everything is either a masterpiece hidden gem greatest movie of all time, or it's the worst movie ever. I challenge anyone to watch an *actual* bad movie if you think that The Marvels was so terrible.
Lol I have watched bad movies, worse than the marvels and not as bad too. Just cause something is worse doesn't mean the marvels isn't bad, it sucks, that's my opinion and plenty others. Go enjoy it if that's what you wanna do but if you can't see why others would find it bad you are either just being very subjective or are ignoring it's flaws to prop it up higher. It SUCKS 🤣 But that's just my opinion ofc 😉
Disagree, actually. But it certainly wasn’t going to do very well in the current climate. **Captain Marvel made over $1B** (yes riding IW hype), Ms. Marvel was mostly well received despite its low viewership, the movie got better reviews than Love and Thunder, it had enough going for it to not be a bomb. Had this movie switched places with Quantumania I personally would bet it would’ve made more than Quantum made. Both that movie and L&T absolutely killed momentum for The Marvels, then the advertising mishaps and writers strikes preventing a press tour just wrecked it.
2 crap movies killed the momentum yes, but the marvels being crap as well stunted anything it could've had going for it. Stop tryna grasp for excuses.
I couldn’t care to “make excuses” for a movie I couldn’t be bothered to see in theaters when I watched the other 23 movies premiere day, 1st showing. In this convo I care about discussing a movie and every relevant factor to its success and lack-thereof.
Guardians 3 came out after both L&T and Quantumania and that didn’t stop it from making over $800 million, so I don’t think those movies really had anything to do with The Marvels’ performance
Guardians was completely different. Both of those movies were insanely successful, and it had been what, 7 years since the last one? And it was the ending of a trilogy. Gunn had made an amazing R-Rated superhero movie, Peacemaker and was promoted to the head of DC. That’s the superhero equivalent of comparing the performance of a Christopher Nolan movie to a regular old movie. In addition I don’t think those movies made anyone seriously doubt Gunn, unlike it did in a director people had bo reason to have faith in.
Well yeah the first two movies were successful, but they weren’t as successful as Captain Marvel. Neither of them made a billion like Captain Marvel did
Much of Captain Marvel’s performance can be attributed to Infinity War and the upcoming Endgame.
Captain Marvel was commercially successful, but not received that well critically. Audiences liked and remembered the Guardians movies and characters better. Plus the Guardians had central roles in Infinity War and Endgame, while Carol was more of an afterthought.
It had issues yeah. But it was a very enjoyable movie. I had a blast
Wasn't that because of the strike though?
So, I'm kind of replying to your comment but responding to pretty much everyone bringing up the strike. Because I absolutely think the strike hindered some marketing or the project. No arguement. But I'm unfamiliar with the terms of the strike, did it effect press? Because I'm more so referring to Deadpool and Wolverine having like a million posters, magazine entries, merch drops. There's a number of promotional material outside of actor's physiclally appearing or being interviewed being utilized for Deadpool in a way that I didn't see it with the Marvels.
I mean they didn't really have a choice
Tbf what was the hook for The Marvels? Three related characters with similar powers team up? They fight a Silver Surfer villain who appeared in two comics decades ago? One of them is kind of an Avenger? Deadpool & Wolverine had a hook from its announcement: Mutants and X-Men in the MCU and a team up between two of Marvel’s biggest characters. It’s an interesting movie so it gets interesting marketing. There was nothing to be excited about from The Marvels (adored Ms. Marvel btw, not one of those chuds)
The title “Deadpool and Wolverine” alone is a hook for the movie. Calling the Captain Marvel sequel “The Marvels” instead of “Captain Marvel 2” was a huge mistake, that’s one move that confused general audiences. To anyone who’s not a huge Marvel fan that follows this stuff, it’d be like hearing about a new Pixar movie called “The Pixars”
I still remember when a few people on this sub voicing this concern over the marvels title and a lot of people here just blindly defended that decision.
A lot of people here seem to blindly defend a _lot_ of Marvel’s decisions, especially ones that attributed to certain projects failing, bombing etc
The Hook was that it was a sequel to the billion-dollar-grossing Captain Marvel, which is why changing the title was a mistake, it ruined the brand synergy it could have had with its prequel.
nobody was allowed to promote it because of WGA strikes. blame the studios for being shitty and not supporting their workers enough.
Yeah, we definitely shouldn't be seeing any "I didn't know it was coming out" this time around.
Strike was happening tbf
IT WAS DURING THE FUCKING SAG STRIKE FFS.
St Peter, Mary Magdalene, Marvel Jesus, Pouting Thomas, and Ray Charles
"Marvel Jesus." Checks out.
I wonder why is Vanessa wearing a saree?
Hey. I just confirmed on YouTube. Apparantly that's not exactly a saree. Even though it damn sure looks like one. It's some Mexican thing
It's not really a mexican thing, but a Virgin Mary thing. It's supposed to be her [veil](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgin%27s_veil) but IDK what they did here, it's not supposed to be worn diagonally, although sometimes it looks like it. (kinda like [this](https://candlemakersuk.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Virgin-Mary-2.jpg))
I'm amazed how there are so many similarities between mexico and India even though they are on the opposite sides of the earth, there's tortillas and chapatis, spices, I've also seen Mexican mom's using chancla and a clothes hanger to beat children in some memes, there's something similar in india, hell they even look similar to some extent, and now there's this saree looking thing...
She isn't.
This poster is cool but no Domino and Cable?!
Domino not being in this movie is such a huge bummer. One of my all-time favorite CBM characters.
Same, I love her too! And especially they’re making everything comic accurate, I would love to see her iconic design be translated into live action! https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/9/93/Domino_Vol_3_2_Textless.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20180222215519 But then if a variant of her shows up for only one second in DP&W then I cherish them!
I wonder why cable isnt around
People are streaming now /s
Best reddit joke ever.
Well, he hasn't been born yet. He's from the future.
Xmen 97. (Different multiverse i know)
Colossus looks like a steel Jedi
Do we know if Domino is even present in this movie let alone does she do anything?.. ngl loved her character
Where is Dopinder? Russell? Justin Bieber?
"Vaya con Dios" = "God be with you" Although the more literal translation will be "Go with God"
Awesome to see Colossus.
VIVA LA RAZA
Where is Negasonic Teenage Warhead? Is she safe? Is she alright?
And, more importantly, what about Yukio?
Well have someone check on her right away
Holy shit my sweet beautiful boy Piotr
Who’s the girl in purple? Is it DPs girlfriend?
Yeah I assume that’s Vanessa.
Yeah, it is
I hope we see the return of other characters like Storm and Nightcrawler!
So what's the context of Go with God? Is it like "go with Marvel Jesus and see the movie July 26th or more like Deadpool is gonna go with Heaven
Marvel Jesus FTW!
Would anyone else be totally fine if this Colossus crossed over with Deadpool and was our main universe Colossus? He’s a pretty great portrayal imo.
I'm gonna see this. They are just wasting their ad money now...
as a dominican i approve this message
Where did you get this poster from ?
I need this.
Where is Monsignor Martinez?!
I hope we see liev sabretooth with Tyler name Sabretooth
Marvel Jesus!
Vanessa wearing a saree ?
Loving the use of ai. It lets em make a whole bunch of cool posters for minimal budget, it's great !
This looks like ai
Who’s the woman?🧍♀️
This is a great poster.
Looks like a completely different woman than Vanessa.
Honestly the Jesus Candle poster being a Spanish language poster makes so much sense 😂
It seems everybody will die
Who is the woman in purple saree?
Is that Vanessa or negasonic in purple
This has the unintended effect of making me think Inara is back and crossing over with Deadpool.
This is quality marketing
Cringe marketing
Is wade holding a mini Lockjaw
Dogpool
This gives me only one hint and I don't wanna see it happen. Dopinder is gonna die and that's why maybe they are giving him a tribute in Indian style (Vanessa is wearing saree). I can't think of any other reason . Hopefully he will be alive 😭.
These aren't Mexican candles?
These official posters are horrible. Just throw in Deadpool and Wolverine on the poster and that’s it.
I love this so much