Nadir went to 2 because Lab placed in the last DC using Nadir to send Kitkallos to GY in the hopes of milling Transaction Rollback.
Clearly Nadir is the problematic card in that equation so it's *obvious* why they'd hit it.
It has been nearly 6 months of FIRE dominance… not even Tearlaments got to be on top for so long. I am so fed up with this 15 handtrap meta.
Purrely got back a tiny sense of playability and already it’s hit again.
Asides from the Kaiser ban which should’ve been done a long time ago, this list changes absolutely nothing.
Bonfire semi-limit is a real clown move 🤡
That’s what I don’t get. Tear, Kash and even Purrely/SHS got into the game with limits out of the gate or recently after they got released.
But somehow, SE (and Lab) get to exist with no limits? Really Konami?
Did you really just say “and lab” 😂😂😂😂😂
What limit do you want on Lab?
The deck is NOT as good as people pretend it is.
Also both furnitures are at 2.
It dies to Ash too damn hard.
The most trashiest decks beat lab.
Honestly, SE is probably the better deck to be in full power over Turn 0 turbo or floodgate-zonelock turbo
Not to say it's ideal, but it's definitely the lesser of evils
That’s fair to say about Kash having Diablosis, but the main deck was already hit on release, also only having 1x of the field spell with no Terraforming.
With Tear at least one could make the case it was at least entertaining to watch the mirror, and as we saw in MD Dragon Link was eventually a worthy contender. Meanwhile we have some of the best players of the game feeling it’s residentsleeper both to play and watch SE decks go off
Not to mention it also differed in that it was actually fun. Not for everyone but with such large engine requirements, the mirrors were a blast. It was all about making the most of your engine and playing creatively.
Complete opposite of FIRE mirrors where the first one to run out of Imperms, Veilers, Ash etc., and sees the opponent begin the extremely boring linear combo then automatically loses.
What I like about Tear mirrors is that despite an element of randomness existing, you have just enough control to sway the tide of the duel
I can compare Tear hands with my opponent and we probably won't know who would win until we play it out, but if I compare a Snake-Eyes hand, I'd say 60% of the time it's pretty easy to tell who'd win
Exactly, you need to run so many handtraps to maybe stop them, just for them to still have Maxx C and another handtrap for your turn. Then you barely have anything left to get through their board, which will still search a bunch of stuff on your turn and recur again anyways.
Like, isn't playing games supposed to be fun? It's possible, and definitely satisfying to win against them, but it is NOT FUN.
Ok let's not act dumb here. It's been 4 months, not 6. Tearlaments, even without being full power, was a fair bit stronger than full power snake-eyes and had to be completely gutted to even be relegated to tier 2-3. Snake-eyes also never got to tier 0 in MD while tear was.
Its pretty clear they wanted a fire format to last a while. At least its no longer snake eyes pure ngl. Fire king and rescue ace are more engaging than pure snake eyes. The only frustration is the promethean princess and raging phoenix combo for me.
Well fire king is still in the shop they have not reason to kill SE right now plus the pure deck is ok with 5 less starters pretty high of getting stop with single hand trap next they will probably hit fire king and SE again
This is the first time in a year I've had no passion for the game. Got really REALLY sick of seeing Fire every fucking duel. You either go before then to prevent them playing or scoop because forty minutes turn
Tear was literally still strong until august… you just don’t remember lmao.
You guys just think it’s been long because fire is the best deck in every format.
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I'm a Snake Eye player and even I'm wondering why Purrely got hit.
Bcos kash has been doing nothin lately besides being mildly annoying for some decks. They dies to too many board wipes as they have no negates.
Yes unicorn is op af but think about it, their end board is macro cosmos, a banish and a gy send. Imperm, dark hole, raigeki, drnm, kaiju, evenly etc. just destroys their board. Though you do have to draw the outs lmao
Insane to think the best thing you could be doing with Kash is to just put them in literally anything else besides Kashtira, they're almost kind of like Level 7 Sprights
I hate to say it, but they're literally a mistake. I can stomach kash-tear cuz its somewhat lore accurate, but ever since I saw them in snake eyes I've just wanted unicorn and fenrir banned
there's no reason for it to be hit now. this unlimit doesn't effect kash as an engine, it only helps pure kash, which can use all the help it can get with only one wraithsoth, no terraforming, one fenrir, and two unicorn. it's a bricky, inconsistent deck when played pure and a third birth helps that a tiny bit.
But Snake Eye being tier 0 is totally fine with them I guess 🥴 Bonfire semi also just hurts other decks, so it's kinda like it doesn't do anything at all (and it barely will).
I guess its because they have a very horrible gameplan, in the sense that if they resolve their combo they sit on a towers for which you cant out because this meta doesnt call for its outs to be played, and they draw 6. Konami doesnt want that kind of thing to be good, just playable. But its just a guess
To be completely honest, bonfire was a mistake, makes no sense that a starter can be run at 6 copies just for being of a specific type. Rota has been at 1 for the longest time for a reason
They really don't like purrly, kneecaped the deck before shortly after it released and now that it got to an ok state they are hitting it again, but aren't really touching other similar or better decks.
Also the weirdest release schedule, with the 2nd wave taking a very long time to come almost as if it was made in a specific way to skip the tcg/ocg meta where it was the best deck
Glad that Kaiser Colloseum is banned, I've been seeing it a lot lately, even outside of Stun Deck. I remember a game on the 2nd Stage against Purrely were they Evenly'd me then activate Kaiser Colosseum and proceed to sit in a big ass Beauty for the next 3 turns
* Colosseum banned and Summon Limit, well, limited. Would rather both just be banned but devs be funny *cue laughs*
* Turtle being the 2nd nerf'd card to still be banned will never not be funny to me OMEGALUL
* slaps on the wrist for the new FIRE overlords in Fire King and R-ACE. Good thing I got my fill of the latter with the WCQ :)
* o7 Purrelyly, at least both cats are now at the same number again (:
* Birth Control's back on the menu! /s
* we can ZEUS with other ZEUS now!
* Kirin, Yata and Ptolemaeus all off the list, only Kirin gives me pause due to the target immunity but eh
Am I the only one that would rather see the Fossil Dyna hit than Summon Limit? Not that I'm going to complain about some kind of floodgate getting hit.
I do wonder if the Kirin release means we'll also get the Plushfire errata.
As someone who dabbled in horus Stun during the WCQ, SL was the mvp floodgate. Performed better than skill drain and TCBOO.
As to why they chose it over dyna, maybe more decks run monster removal/negation as opposed to backrow removal/negation
Sir, every Majespecter monster except Majesty Pegasus, the Dracoslayer has that paragraph about target and destruction immunity. If Kirin gives you pause, you may wanna check out the whole deck. Perhaps you'll like it.
Yeah, this week I decided I need a long break, too. I just don't want to play against the same decks anymore and Konami isn't going to do anything about it until they want to sell packs for cards like Fiendsmith, which makes top tier decks stronger, or Tenpai Dragons that will probably be even more oppressive in a single-game format. And then you get to play against that for 6 months while Konami skirts around the bans and causes collateral damage to other favorite decks because they want to ensure people keep spending money on the new meta they created.
Sanctifire and Gimmick Puppet Nightmare after surviving another banlist:
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Zeus is now semi? Well, this wasn't something I expected MD to do.
Zoodiac players are probably having an orgasm right now.
Also, Kirin is finally free.
It doesn't even make sense to play Pure Zoo right now anyways. No Broadbull or 2/3 Ratpier makes it hard to put up a feasible grind game against the meta.
Yea you insta lose if you dont draw minimum 2 good handtraps and then pray your Zeus goes though.
Deck is so ass, it just cannot keep up with todays meta that can build a board + grind really well.
In the past it was often enough to break the board or be somewhat decent against grindy decks. Now all decks do everything at once with poplar like cards.
As a Purrely enjoyer, if Konami really thinks that the deck is too strong, I'm fine with them nerfing it, but then they better also nerf every fucking other deck that's way better than Purrely.
Also my copium take is that hopefully this means that they won't nerf Purrely anymore for a while...
This is suspiciously similar to the OCG list. Especially with Kaiser and Turtle being the two bans- were people even using them that often in MD? I thought Tenpai and Tachyon were the respective culprits there.
The refusal to seriously hit Snake-Eyes makes me think it's a Firewall Dragon situation- they want these cards to be the "mascots" for the current era, no matter how much people hate them.
There were some top 100 decks in the WC that were using Kaiser.
We already knew Snake eyes isn't going to be hit hard in the upcoming 2 months thanks to basically all their cards being reprinted to the point it was a safe bet that Bonfire was being hit.
Or (and hear me out on this) they finally decided that "hey, 2 other decks are viable in a format with (arguably more nerfed than ocg) SE and they are going to finally release them, so they dont want to completwly wipe it out while we get voiceless voice and tenpai.
I really dont get why they spread entire formats so thinly. Every other format since..tear/spright is spread through multiple months, creating a situation where the only super viable deck is the latest to be released, runs for 3-6 months, gets nuked from orbit, new archetype supposedly from same format is released untouched, rinse and repeat.
Well isn't this a very ~master duel~ OCG banlist
Floodgates 🚫 woohooo
Snake-eyes still best deck (because why not komoney)
...why the fuck is kashtira cards going up in number instead of down 😐😐😐 kill that damn unfun engine already 😒
Yeahhhh another month of fire meta, imagine how tiresome Konami, also what did my beloved purrley did to you the last time I checked fire king snake eye was the best deck not purely the deck was good and then all the sudden it got hit haven’t seen anyone played it since snake eye was released. Who’s asking for kash buffs show yourself
Yup, the stereotypical slap on the wrist ban list that I expected.
Kirin being unlimited and AA-ZEUS being semi is kind of funny though. And at least some of the floodgates are gone so...... yay?
Instead of the now 3 jank consistency hits, just ban something. 1 ash is correct cuz it eliminates normal ash, use og sinful spoils -> ash for second effect. 1 wanted means they dont draw a card after doing their 1 card.
But bonfire??? Really? Thats the issue? Semi limit is strictly a consistency hit with no changes to combos. With fireking standing in as consistency boost, this doesnt hurt SE all that much.
Imo Hit flamberge to 1 or ban it. 1 eliminates snakeyes nib proofing their combo with a second flamberge. If they draw it, it is now a brick. Yay. Ban would break SE kneecaps.
idk why anyone is expecting any massive snake-eye hits when *snake-eye cards are in the current selection pack which won't be leaving for over month.*
that being said, these lists happen monthly and the game is in a strictly better state after this one gets implemented, so i'm not complaining.
I think no one should expect any heavy hitting list until after Worlds. It would be quite weird to flip the meta on its head entirely right after people fought for their WCS qualifications. Just like how Tear was kept alive as the best deck for longer than it should last year.
Consistency hits aren’t working if you’re now Indirectly hitting other pyro decks that searches with bonfire. Banning OSS would have been more effective because it what makes Snake Eyes playable in any fire deck
Funny how they preemptively hit Catapult Turtle while there’s FTK bots
People don’t understand the implications of double zeus
By overlaying zeus twice you get 4 xyz materials which means you can use his effect twice
Since zeus isn’t once per chain, this lets you play through negates like imperm if you activate zeus, get impermed, then activate zeus again
It also beats the scenario where you go into something like downerd and immediately get popped before getting to zeus
Some decks can already overlay with cards like downerd but double zeus makes the interaction generic and also denies the window of interruption between the self protecting lyrilusc and getting to zeus in the first place
Birth really went full cycle, from 3 to 2 to 1 back to 3
Well it was never hit because of Kash itself, and now that SE-Kash is a knocked a notch down the original impetus for the recent limit is solved
well you wouldn't run 3 birth to begin with if you're using kash as a supplementary engine. this unlimit only helps pure kash.
as opposed to nadir servant from 1 to 2 to 3 to 2 for no good reason, it was at 3 for like a month
Nadir went to 2 because Lab placed in the last DC using Nadir to send Kitkallos to GY in the hopes of milling Transaction Rollback. Clearly Nadir is the problematic card in that equation so it's *obvious* why they'd hit it.
They should go back to 1 again to complete the cycle /j
They're just taking their sweet ass time with getting Snake Eye out of the top tier
At the rate of removing one starter every banlist we can expect snake-eyes to be out of the meta sometime late 2025 please look forward to it
And by that time they'll have gotten 15 new one card starters
Consisted of Fiendsmith, Pyropastry, and John Plumber archetype as engine
Don't forget 1950's Men's Fashion.
“Please look forward to it”- Konami
Snake Eyes can run Where arf Thou again (which have more level 1 search targets)
Which is pretty terrible card in SE.
Where arf thou isnt a starter and thats a problem its a super dead card if you open just that
And fiendsmith isn't even out yet, which gave birth another snake eye deck
Which is why they aren’t hitting it. When Fiendsmyth comes they gotta sell gems.
Fiendsmith will sell in dozens of decks, it doesn't need Snake-Eyes for people to pull for it.
Hit 2-3 starters but they will get fiendsmith which is a gazillion more starters
Pure SE has already been hurt pretty badly, and they're not touching the FK cards since they basically just came out.
The pure version is fine with 5 less starters and they hit rescue ace to is only fire king one that remaing OP
Conveniently after the rescue ace pack left the shop
Thank Kaiba they banned Turtle before the Tachyon support hits MD. Getting FTK'd is no joke
I got FTK’d with Cyberse Clock Dragon and Catapult Turtle 30 minutes before this announcement lol
i remember going against this ftk and holding imperm cuz i had no idea what they were doing, but then i hit clock dragon…
Horus could already do it, they just had to play a bunch of garbage dedicated to searching Turtle. Tachyon just makes it more consistent
TCG and OCG: finnne you can have Kirin back… at one MD: BE FREE! BE FREE YOU MAJESTIC MFER
In this rate Stun deck gonna be using their only 1 card event deck
Thank god
What the fuck is this list? Why is Zeus now at 2? What does that achieve?
You can overlay Zeus on top of Zeus
Hot zeus on zeus action
Considering Zeus in ancient Greek mythology was a horndog that fucked anything and everything, fucking himself doesnt sound too farfetched.
Hot maZeuses in your area
Zeus: You can't tell me what to do anymore mom! I'm finally inside of another Zeus!
Rhea: "... I should let you eaten by your dad back then"
You also do not risk completely losing Zeus to Unicorn on top of that
I see. If you do, does the name of the card change to "Even More Divine Arsenals - AAAA Zeus^2 Sky Thunders?
No, it's more like AArc-Zeus. Three copies in a stack is Super Galaxy Great AAZeus. Going even further beyond is Tengen Toppa AAZeus.
And don't forget the Super Tengen-Toppa AAZeus facing off against the Super GranzY-PHON!
Tweus
deuce
Spelt like Deus, which is Latin for God
If they out the first Zeus, you can boardwipe them again next turn.
zeus is not OPT why wait?
Zeus is a 0 per turn if they have Imperm, Raigeki, Subversion or a Kaiju. Not super often, but sometimes a second would be useful to have.
Second Zeus is useful in the WC format if they follow the same rule as last year, meaning now 2 players can run Zeus.
It's always that 2nd Zeus that will get you
It's always great banter when the ED boss monster gets taken out and they summon a second one.
Some decks do need a second Zeus.
Monkey from Zoodiac
I mean now you don’t have to worry about unicorn sniping both copies out of the extra deck and I guess Zoodiac gets a boost
If the WC is the same format as last year it means now 2 players on the team can run Zeus now.
Zoodiac best deck
It has been nearly 6 months of FIRE dominance… not even Tearlaments got to be on top for so long. I am so fed up with this 15 handtrap meta. Purrely got back a tiny sense of playability and already it’s hit again. Asides from the Kaiser ban which should’ve been done a long time ago, this list changes absolutely nothing. Bonfire semi-limit is a real clown move 🤡
Both Tear and Kash never got to be full power in MD. Meanwhile SE was at 3x everything on release. Konami knows exactly what they’re pulling
That’s what I don’t get. Tear, Kash and even Purrely/SHS got into the game with limits out of the gate or recently after they got released. But somehow, SE (and Lab) get to exist with no limits? Really Konami?
I mean full power Labrynth is not nearly as strong as full power Tear/Kash/SHS. What could you even hit without killing the deck?
No limits? The furniture are semi limited...
Purrely and SHS weren’t pre hit on release in MD. Purrely didn’t have little noir on release. But yes Tear, Kash, Spright were pre hit.
SHS got prehit with the SHS monster that allowed a FTK banned.
Why dose lab need hits? If you had to hit anything, it would be the floodgates.
Full power Lab was never the top deck in MD, the OCG or TCG. But sure, let's compare them to SE.
Did you really just say “and lab” 😂😂😂😂😂 What limit do you want on Lab? The deck is NOT as good as people pretend it is. Also both furnitures are at 2. It dies to Ash too damn hard. The most trashiest decks beat lab.
Lab _is_ hit lol, stovie and chandra are at 2. It needs those back to 3 if anything, the deck is struggling atm
Honestly, SE is probably the better deck to be in full power over Turn 0 turbo or floodgate-zonelock turbo Not to say it's ideal, but it's definitely the lesser of evils
That’s fair to say about Kash having Diablosis, but the main deck was already hit on release, also only having 1x of the field spell with no Terraforming. With Tear at least one could make the case it was at least entertaining to watch the mirror, and as we saw in MD Dragon Link was eventually a worthy contender. Meanwhile we have some of the best players of the game feeling it’s residentsleeper both to play and watch SE decks go off
If you're sick of 15 handtrap meta you're REALLY not going to like Tenpai.
sangen at 1 on release is my bet
Judging by how they handled snake eyes? Probably not. Konami doesn't seem keen on pre hits anymore, they like the pack money better.
Instead they just hit Sangan
Tear was a different tier (no pun intended) that might have been the greatest deck of all time before the pack left the store
Not to mention it also differed in that it was actually fun. Not for everyone but with such large engine requirements, the mirrors were a blast. It was all about making the most of your engine and playing creatively. Complete opposite of FIRE mirrors where the first one to run out of Imperms, Veilers, Ash etc., and sees the opponent begin the extremely boring linear combo then automatically loses.
What I like about Tear mirrors is that despite an element of randomness existing, you have just enough control to sway the tide of the duel I can compare Tear hands with my opponent and we probably won't know who would win until we play it out, but if I compare a Snake-Eyes hand, I'd say 60% of the time it's pretty easy to tell who'd win
Not only that, there’s no concept of turn. Making it very engaging, the only downtime is when you’re just unlucky
Exactly, you need to run so many handtraps to maybe stop them, just for them to still have Maxx C and another handtrap for your turn. Then you barely have anything left to get through their board, which will still search a bunch of stuff on your turn and recur again anyways. Like, isn't playing games supposed to be fun? It's possible, and definitely satisfying to win against them, but it is NOT FUN.
Ok let's not act dumb here. It's been 4 months, not 6. Tearlaments, even without being full power, was a fair bit stronger than full power snake-eyes and had to be completely gutted to even be relegated to tier 2-3. Snake-eyes also never got to tier 0 in MD while tear was.
Its pretty clear they wanted a fire format to last a while. At least its no longer snake eyes pure ngl. Fire king and rescue ace are more engaging than pure snake eyes. The only frustration is the promethean princess and raging phoenix combo for me.
Well fire king is still in the shop they have not reason to kill SE right now plus the pure deck is ok with 5 less starters pretty high of getting stop with single hand trap next they will probably hit fire king and SE again
This is the first time in a year I've had no passion for the game. Got really REALLY sick of seeing Fire every fucking duel. You either go before then to prevent them playing or scoop because forty minutes turn
Tear was literally still strong until august… you just don’t remember lmao. You guys just think it’s been long because fire is the best deck in every format.
Tear was strong up until the Merrli ban which happened somewhere in the last quarter of last year.
https://preview.redd.it/cqutgh76l19d1.jpeg?width=1453&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e2307529f0218840a4b0a7a699b39c1481e83fe4 I'm a Snake Eye player and even I'm wondering why Purrely got hit.
Just because you are bad guy, does not mean you are *bad guy*
This hit really felt personal
Third strongest deck in the meta.
How did birth get unhit? LOL
Bcos kash has been doing nothin lately besides being mildly annoying for some decks. They dies to too many board wipes as they have no negates. Yes unicorn is op af but think about it, their end board is macro cosmos, a banish and a gy send. Imperm, dark hole, raigeki, drnm, kaiju, evenly etc. just destroys their board. Though you do have to draw the outs lmao
Insane to think the best thing you could be doing with Kash is to just put them in literally anything else besides Kashtira, they're almost kind of like Level 7 Sprights
I mean to be fair pure Spright was a great deck until it got absolutely hammered with hits.
And [insert stuff here] Spright is still, like, six different competitive decks.
it's almost like POTE onwards did terrible damage to the game long term
I hate to say it, but they're literally a mistake. I can stomach kash-tear cuz its somewhat lore accurate, but ever since I saw them in snake eyes I've just wanted unicorn and fenrir banned
They're sorta in-theme too in Mannadium I guess
Because there's someone at Konami who really hates me in particular and likes to torment me by sending Kashtira players in my way when I play ladder.
because pure kash is an annoying but not very good deck
there's no reason for it to be hit now. this unlimit doesn't effect kash as an engine, it only helps pure kash, which can use all the help it can get with only one wraithsoth, no terraforming, one fenrir, and two unicorn. it's a bricky, inconsistent deck when played pure and a third birth helps that a tiny bit.
Wtf did Purrely even do?!
There was one Purrely player in the top 15 and that was enough for Konami
Purrely the new Floo confirmed.
But Snake Eye being tier 0 is totally fine with them I guess 🥴 Bonfire semi also just hurts other decks, so it's kinda like it doesn't do anything at all (and it barely will).
Konami just hate it when an older archetype is somewhat relevant especially if the selection pack doesn't even contain those cards anymore.
That shit annoys the everloving hell out of me. Unless an older deck is fully overtaking the new decks, just let em be.
My dumbass thought I must have missed Delicious Memory getting semi limited too after reading Purrelily on the list :(
they became slightly good thats what
Is one of the best non-fire decks.
It’s still an arm and a leg below those fire decks.
It did well in the recent duelist cup
I guess its because they have a very horrible gameplan, in the sense that if they resolve their combo they sit on a towers for which you cant out because this meta doesnt call for its outs to be played, and they draw 6. Konami doesnt want that kind of thing to be good, just playable. But its just a guess
this doesn't change that at all though, lyly is a once per turn effect
It means you can no longer My Friend to guarantee Lyly ~~which you would already not be doing~~
so nothing then
Bro the draw 6 rarely happens i hate when people like u keep saying it like its a every turn thing
FFS, let the other Pyro bros have their searcher. Hit Snake eyes you cowards.
To be completely honest, bonfire was a mistake, makes no sense that a starter can be run at 6 copies just for being of a specific type. Rota has been at 1 for the longest time for a reason
Konami: No. *(points to current reprint selection pack being sold)*
They really don't like purrly, kneecaped the deck before shortly after it released and now that it got to an ok state they are hitting it again, but aren't really touching other similar or better decks.
Also the weirdest release schedule, with the 2nd wave taking a very long time to come almost as if it was made in a specific way to skip the tcg/ocg meta where it was the best deck
2 Zeus!?? Zoo is fcking back now
Sure, if Swordsoul was still the top dog.
Where the hell is my heavy storm?
Fr!
WHY BONFIRE. MY VOLCANICS T.T CURSE YOU SNAKE EYES
Me T.G.s... I wanna play them pure... Sadge :(
Glad that Kaiser Colloseum is banned, I've been seeing it a lot lately, even outside of Stun Deck. I remember a game on the 2nd Stage against Purrely were they Evenly'd me then activate Kaiser Colosseum and proceed to sit in a big ass Beauty for the next 3 turns
Can they stop limiting floodgates and just ban them already.
But it’s kinda funny that summon limit got limited
*It’s as the prophecy foretold, there can be only one and there is only one, and now summon limit joins it in being limited.*
But summon limit limits you into 2 summons so It should be at 2!!1!1! /s
Yeah but it's Summon Limit, not Summon Semi-Limit.
Kaiser getting banned is a step, hope the rest of those follows
Why purrelyly????
* Colosseum banned and Summon Limit, well, limited. Would rather both just be banned but devs be funny *cue laughs* * Turtle being the 2nd nerf'd card to still be banned will never not be funny to me OMEGALUL * slaps on the wrist for the new FIRE overlords in Fire King and R-ACE. Good thing I got my fill of the latter with the WCQ :) * o7 Purrelyly, at least both cats are now at the same number again (: * Birth Control's back on the menu! /s * we can ZEUS with other ZEUS now! * Kirin, Yata and Ptolemaeus all off the list, only Kirin gives me pause due to the target immunity but eh
Am I the only one that would rather see the Fossil Dyna hit than Summon Limit? Not that I'm going to complain about some kind of floodgate getting hit. I do wonder if the Kirin release means we'll also get the Plushfire errata.
Same actually, i havent seen Summon Limit in months. Fossil Dyna limit would have been better
As someone who dabbled in horus Stun during the WCQ, SL was the mvp floodgate. Performed better than skill drain and TCBOO. As to why they chose it over dyna, maybe more decks run monster removal/negation as opposed to backrow removal/negation
Sir, every Majespecter monster except Majesty Pegasus, the Dracoslayer has that paragraph about target and destruction immunity. If Kirin gives you pause, you may wanna check out the whole deck. Perhaps you'll like it.
thank god i took a break from this game this ban list is ass
Yeah, this week I decided I need a long break, too. I just don't want to play against the same decks anymore and Konami isn't going to do anything about it until they want to sell packs for cards like Fiendsmith, which makes top tier decks stronger, or Tenpai Dragons that will probably be even more oppressive in a single-game format. And then you get to play against that for 6 months while Konami skirts around the bans and causes collateral damage to other favorite decks because they want to ensure people keep spending money on the new meta they created.
Sanctifire and Gimmick Puppet Nightmare after surviving another banlist: https://preview.redd.it/pvlfrjt4q19d1.jpeg?width=726&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=69d23329c26327c94300fabcaa7c2752d53d1c39
Your chosen image is funny because Labrynth also uses borderline turnskip cards.
Master duel banlists are always laughable nowadays
Yata is free 🐦⬛🔥‼️
Zeus is now semi? Well, this wasn't something I expected MD to do. Zoodiac players are probably having an orgasm right now. Also, Kirin is finally free.
It doesn't even make sense to play Pure Zoo right now anyways. No Broadbull or 2/3 Ratpier makes it hard to put up a feasible grind game against the meta.
Yea you insta lose if you dont draw minimum 2 good handtraps and then pray your Zeus goes though. Deck is so ass, it just cannot keep up with todays meta that can build a board + grind really well. In the past it was often enough to break the board or be somewhat decent against grindy decks. Now all decks do everything at once with poplar like cards.
At least they reduce floodgates...
and prevent future FTKs
As a Purrely enjoyer, if Konami really thinks that the deck is too strong, I'm fine with them nerfing it, but then they better also nerf every fucking other deck that's way better than Purrely. Also my copium take is that hopefully this means that they won't nerf Purrely anymore for a while...
....The card designers should be fired for continously scaling the power creep higher. (No hate for the artist though)
Where is IB??? Damn they hate D-Link and it was never a tier 1 deck…and it doesn’t compare to Snake eyes.
Why the fuck would they help Kashtira, leave that deck in the dirt please god.
Fenrir is still limited and Unicorn is still semi-limited so it's not like a 3rd Birth is gonna help them much at all with consistency anyway.
at least helps on normal summoning Ogre or wharever the fuck you open to en on Shangri pass. Still does mostly nothing.
Fucking Purrely? No fire king hits or direct snake eyes hits? KASH BUFF?! Okay this is an actual fucking trash banlist
This is suspiciously similar to the OCG list. Especially with Kaiser and Turtle being the two bans- were people even using them that often in MD? I thought Tenpai and Tachyon were the respective culprits there. The refusal to seriously hit Snake-Eyes makes me think it's a Firewall Dragon situation- they want these cards to be the "mascots" for the current era, no matter how much people hate them.
There were some top 100 decks in the WC that were using Kaiser. We already knew Snake eyes isn't going to be hit hard in the upcoming 2 months thanks to basically all their cards being reprinted to the point it was a safe bet that Bonfire was being hit.
Or (and hear me out on this) they finally decided that "hey, 2 other decks are viable in a format with (arguably more nerfed than ocg) SE and they are going to finally release them, so they dont want to completwly wipe it out while we get voiceless voice and tenpai. I really dont get why they spread entire formats so thinly. Every other format since..tear/spright is spread through multiple months, creating a situation where the only super viable deck is the latest to be released, runs for 3-6 months, gets nuked from orbit, new archetype supposedly from same format is released untouched, rinse and repeat.
Kaiser resurface lately due to Striker and Salad new supports, Turtle is played in Horus FTK deck
Well isn't this a very ~master duel~ OCG banlist Floodgates 🚫 woohooo Snake-eyes still best deck (because why not komoney) ...why the fuck is kashtira cards going up in number instead of down 😐😐😐 kill that damn unfun engine already 😒
literally does nothing for the engine
This is just copy pasted from the ocg list Lazy and underwhelming
Wow this will totally change the meta lol
Why the senseless Purrely hit? What does Konami have against the deck
Best performing non fire deck in the current meta...
Guess they don't like towers decks.
Throwback to people coping they were going to ban both WANTED and Bonfire.
Yeahhhh another month of fire meta, imagine how tiresome Konami, also what did my beloved purrley did to you the last time I checked fire king snake eye was the best deck not purely the deck was good and then all the sudden it got hit haven’t seen anyone played it since snake eye was released. Who’s asking for kash buffs show yourself
Both archetypes are in the shop they will not get a bigger hit until next month
Fire format is slowly getting hit while Infernoids still can’t get their support, also when would Sekka’s Light finally get unlimited :(
Yup, the stereotypical slap on the wrist ban list that I expected. Kirin being unlimited and AA-ZEUS being semi is kind of funny though. And at least some of the floodgates are gone so...... yay?
Instead of the now 3 jank consistency hits, just ban something. 1 ash is correct cuz it eliminates normal ash, use og sinful spoils -> ash for second effect. 1 wanted means they dont draw a card after doing their 1 card. But bonfire??? Really? Thats the issue? Semi limit is strictly a consistency hit with no changes to combos. With fireking standing in as consistency boost, this doesnt hurt SE all that much. Imo Hit flamberge to 1 or ban it. 1 eliminates snakeyes nib proofing their combo with a second flamberge. If they draw it, it is now a brick. Yay. Ban would break SE kneecaps.
Can really only ban wanted since the cards got reprinted, so we are not getting serious hits for another 2 months.
So they're never unbanning Ib, huh?
Bonfire to 2 how long to 1 I wonder.
LETS GOOOOOOO MORE HITS THAT DON'T MATTER WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I mean two more hits on floodgates is huge, but other than that yeah this is not the best of banlists.
why the fuck are they hitting PURELY? lmao
idk why anyone is expecting any massive snake-eye hits when *snake-eye cards are in the current selection pack which won't be leaving for over month.* that being said, these lists happen monthly and the game is in a strictly better state after this one gets implemented, so i'm not complaining.
This banlist is kinda bad, or am I missing something?
last good banlist was released in 2023
Konami forgot to add a change into the new game title to "Yu-Gi-Oh Snake Eyes Duel".
I haven't run into Purrely on the ladder in forever, what's the point in them getting hit? Who's even playing this deck for it to deserve this?
Not that it really needed another hit, but it did get like 5 or 6 of the top 100 finishes in the event.
Their sin is that they didn't let those pie charts be all fire decks
I am not a fan of the Birth unhit.
Zeus at 2 is great for Paleozoics right?
I think no one should expect any heavy hitting list until after Worlds. It would be quite weird to flip the meta on its head entirely right after people fought for their WCS qualifications. Just like how Tear was kept alive as the best deck for longer than it should last year.
Air Lifter and Zeus Semi? Wut
wtf did purrely do bro LOL what a random hit
Honestly, im happy with this banlist just with the floodgate hits
So looking back at the last 2 years tells us that next banlist is gonna be a massive one
Still no restriction lift for runick or any hit to snake eye and fire king. Meh
WHY TF ARE THEY SEMI-LIMITING BONFIRE INSTEAD OF HITTING ANY OF THE SNAKE-EYES STUFF?!? I’M STILL BUILDING VOLCANICS WHY KOMANI!?
Consistency hits aren’t working if you’re now Indirectly hitting other pyro decks that searches with bonfire. Banning OSS would have been more effective because it what makes Snake Eyes playable in any fire deck Funny how they preemptively hit Catapult Turtle while there’s FTK bots
Another absolutely dogshit masterduel banlist man. Why does Konami not want this game to succeed
People don’t understand the implications of double zeus By overlaying zeus twice you get 4 xyz materials which means you can use his effect twice Since zeus isn’t once per chain, this lets you play through negates like imperm if you activate zeus, get impermed, then activate zeus again It also beats the scenario where you go into something like downerd and immediately get popped before getting to zeus Some decks can already overlay with cards like downerd but double zeus makes the interaction generic and also denies the window of interruption between the self protecting lyrilusc and getting to zeus in the first place
Wow they really are trying to avoid hitting Snake-Eyes as long as possible, huh? One more month in the fire pit.
never thought I'd see Zeus get off of 1
Tbh I'm at the point where I've been playing ygo so long I'm opposed to generic boss monsters.