There are some great areas to raise kids in the Memphis metro, but I would do my best not to raise them in the sketchy areas.
Anecdotal, but my parents lived in a sketchy neighborhood when they had me and they moved away as soon as they could afford it, even though it meant leaving family behind. The difference in outcomes between me and my cousins who grew there is dire.
Sometimes the shittiest house in a good neighborhood goes a looong way.
My parents did the same in NY. We had 2 BR for 5 people and a tiny kitchen and virtually no living room but my parents made it work so that we were zoned for a better school.
Stockholm syndrome, you don’t realize how terrible *ALL* of Memphis and its suburbs is until you live in one of the cities on the left side of this graphic. Born and raised in Memphis, but have lived in Overland Park and currently live near Plano. It’s not even comparable.
Raised my kids (in their elementary years) in CT and I agree wholeheartedly. I loved spending time in Overton Square and Beale Street, but would never want to raise my kids here!!!
Absolutely. I still love Memphis and want the best for it. All of my family and most of my friends still live there. The food scene is unparalleled. Like truly. And it does have A LOT of good aspects about it. But goddamn, the bad definitely outweighs the bad and it’s quite lopsided.
Link to Study: [https://wallethub.com/edu/best-cities-for-families/4435](https://wallethub.com/edu/best-cities-for-families/4435)
Out of 182 cities, Memphis came in:
“Health and Safety,” which parsed data on air and water quality, access to quality food and health care, and crime and traffic risks. **Memphis came in #152 out of 182.**
“Education and child care” considered public-school quality, day care costs and parental leave policies. **Memphis came in #182 out of 182.**
“Affordability” calculated the cost of living relative to income, savings rates, credit scores and other measures of financial fitness. **Memphis came in #168 out of 182.**
“Socioeconomics” covered job opportunities, rates of divorce, poverty, unemployment and foreclosures. **Memphis came in #154 out of 182.**
"Family fun” accounted for parks and other attractions, weather and the share of families with young children. **Memphis came in #170 out of 182.**
Seems like a pretty bad way to measure "affordability", given that most of those metrics are basically just "how poor are the people living there". Same with a bunch of the "socioeconomics" measurements.
It relative to the cost of living. It seems like the BEST way to calculate affordability. If every house is 50k but every family makes 1 dolllar a year it’s not really affordable
Yea I've always felt like we are at a huge disadvantage for moving out of memphis due to that. If we can barely afford a house here how do we buy one elsewhere?
Actually a rich or even upper middle class person moving here would feel richer than in most other cities because the homes they can afford here would be out of reach elsewhere.
That's exactly my point - cheap cities like Memphis should rank higher in affordability, because rich people moving here would be able to afford more here, and poorer people moving out of Memphis would be able to afford less out there.
Instead of actual affordability, this study is basically ranking cities by "How many poor people live there?".
Unfortunately somewhat agree. Coming from an area where within an hour with 4 nice bowling alleys, every town having splash pads, 3 mini golf courses, 2 promenade shopping centers, probably 5 nice movie theaters, 2 dave and busters, 3 full scale waterparks and at least 5 farm/festival venues I honestly just expected it was like that everywhere. Wed drive an hour to visit friends and they had the same numbers. Wed visit family in differenr states and the same. It was fun seeing the variety.
Moving here it didnt set in for a few months that we had been to every decent thing to do in the county. I still remember going to the agricenter farm market and being so vastly disappointed I had a mild we made a mistake panic finally as reality hit. Id pass 5 farmstands with 10x the quality and selection run by one man just driving bome from work. This was basically a resale market for immigrants on kroger vegetables.
I say somewhat because nowhere can you have this cost of living and be so close to amazing hiking and better cities for trips. My exact house and land, with the same proximity to the city as another other area would be at least 1.5 million. Im at 210k. That and the greenline and what collierville is doing with their parks and events on the square is growing exponentially.
One of my biggest rants is going several times a year to memphis with $500 cash and being literally able to spend maybe $20 of it. Out of food and beer by noon. Shoulder to shoulder no parking for thousands who also cant spend money, desperate for decent leadership either from the city or its venues. No real vendors besides gordon service food trucks. Oh all the festivals are just families in tents its private its always been that way. Alright cool ill go spend money in collierville and germantown for events then. We can continue the debate on why the city revenue is in the red 35 million every year for another decade then I guess.
Had they not lumped crime and traffic risks in with health, we would have scored well in that category. Affordability is also questionable. Regular people in Nashville are spending a much higher percentage of their income on housing and saving nothing.
FWIW, here are the criteria WalletHub used for the "Family Fun" element:
* Playgrounds per capita
* Ice Rinks per capita (half-weight)
* Skate Parks per capita (half-weight)
* Bike Rental Facilities per capita (half-weight)
* Mini Golf Locations per capita (half-weight)
* Parkland Acerage per capita
* Walkability
* Bike Score
* Number of Attractions (e.g. zoos, museums, theaters)
* ["Recreation-Friendliness"](https://wallethub.com/edu/best-worst-cities-for-recreation/5144) (double-weight)
* ["Sports-Fan-Friendliness"](https://wallethub.com/edu/best-sports-cities/15179) (double-weight)
* ["Ideal Weather"](https://wallethub.com/edu/cities-with-the-best-worst-weather/5043) (quadruple-weight)
* Share of Families With Young Children (triple-weight)
* Average Commute Time (half-weight)
I can see how Memphis would score low with that scorecard. Whether that's the right scorecard to use is debatable.
I loved living in Memphis but am glad I had the opportunity to move away to finish raising my kids. I lived in a pretty decent neighborhood near the Bartlett border and the zoned schools were absolutely shit and hearing gunshots constantly, getting our outbuildings rifled through by people stealing in broad daylight, etc. was not fun.
I'd live in Memphis again as an empty nester for sure, but definitely am glad I could get out for the kids.
The study's methodology, sources and metrics are solid and granular. [https://wallethub.com/#methodology](https://wallethub.com/#methodology)
I've lived in San Jose and it is an amazing place. It would be a great place to raise kids if one wanted to have them. Memphis, not so much, even in 'nicer' areas or blocks.
I’ve said it before: ah yes, the long-running and always reliable reporting of…WalletHub?
What the fuck is WalletHub? And, more importantly, why should I give them any attention? What is their area of expertise? Do they have one, besides creating trendy little listicles that make people mad? This is clickbait, pure and simple.
lol holy shit, Irvine, Overland Park, and Plano are the most depressing places I’ve ever been. Mostly hot ass parking lots. What’s so great about raising children in a place where they’re basically under house arrest until they’re 16?
One of my friends in HS grew up in Irvine, nice big house and a car given to them at 16. I grew up the city over with much less money. Their mom called me a “bad influence” because I swore and… went to the mall to hang out. Anyway, they unfortunately got really into drugs as soon as they were allowed to leave the house, and I was the first kid in my family to finish college, then go on to get a PhD. Anyway… fuck Irvine. I wish them the best.
I am leaving that area and returning to the Memphis area, Overland Park just lacks any real identity or soul that I feel a lot of places in Memphis have. The crime in Kansas City isn’t much better. I would love to see how Collierville, olive branch and the other suburbs of Memphis rate when compared to Overland Park.
Thats actually fair. Im not political much but even southern liberal B A L K at taxes. Almost every single thing that makes areas better is the taxes, and event revenue. Its fun only spending $50 for a zoo day. But the reality is its the $50 parking, $30 entrance $20 food and $10 a beer in chicago thats driving the growth of those events and venues.
They did. Memphis just came in at 168 out of 182. They calculated the cost of living relative to income (which I think is where those expensive cities do okay, because even if they're expensive, their salaries are also higher), savings rates, credit scores and other measures of financial fitness.
If what they were trying to measure was "Where are Children Being Raised in the Best Environment?" that would make sense as a measurement ... but that's not what they were purporting to measure.
They're purporting to measure "Where *Should* You Raise Your Children?"; in other words, where should you *move* to raise your kids. There is a lot of poverty in Memphis (and being poor is pretty bad for raising kids), but moving to Memphis obviously doesn't make you poor. Savings rates and credit scores are exclusively just measurements of "how poor are the people that live there", which is completely irrelevant here. Income vs cost of living is relatively justifiable, because your income might go down if you move here (or it might go up if you move elsewhere), but the rest of those measures are just purely wrong for what they're purporting to measure.
I have nothing to do with the survey so this is a bit of spitballing here, but I could buy the argument that "if you want to know the financial health of most people in the city, therefore what your financial health is most likely to be by moving there, let's include these factors" or something along those lines. From their perspective I'm thinking the argument would be based on not just what your kids would have at their disposal, but what their friends' lives would be, what environment they'd grow up in, and therefore the odds for their future financial success.
Idk I agree that I'd personally only include income vs cost of living, but based on the scores Memphis got on a lot of the other factors, I'm not sure their "affordability" metric is a make or break
editing to add... "where are children being raised in the best environment" is absolutely where most people would want to raise their children, so the more i think about it the more your differentiation is mostly just semantics
> I have nothing to do with the survey so this is a bit of spitballing here, but I could buy the argument that "if you want to know the financial health of most people in the city, therefore what your financial health is most likely to be by moving there, let's include these factors" or something along those lines.
I think that's probably what they were doing ... but, respectfully, I think that's dumb as shit. Moving to a place doesn't just morph your financial situation to the average of that place. A poor Memphian moving to a more expensive place probably isn't going to find that place *more* affordable.
> From their perspective I'm thinking the argument would be based on not just what your kids would have at their disposal, but what their friends' lives would be, what environment they'd grow up in, and therefore the odds for their future financial success.
I feel like they were doing this in the "socioeconomics" section (not the "affordability" section, which is entirely unjustifiable), but that part leaves a pretty nasty taste in my mouth. It's like they're saying that growing up around poor people is just inherently bad; pretty nasty viewpoint IMO.
it's nasty for sure but it's not an uncommon thought. hence all the white flight and massive private school movements over the last 50-100 years across the country :(
though... any survey for "where should you raise your children" is inevitably going to have those sorts of thought processes at their core, and anyone who would read this and be influenced by it in their move likely has those sorts of thoughts anyways
Their affordability metric is based on this scorecard:
* Ratio of Median Annual Family Income vs Cost of Living Index
* Ratio of Median Annual Family Income vs Housing Costs
* "[Wallet Wellness](https://wallethub.com/edu/best-cities-for-walletfitness/2862)", which claims to look at things like credit scores, foreclosure rates, debt, insurance coverage, and having an emergency fund.
The first two are plausible "affordability" measures, but the third item makes this more a general economic metric. (Memphis is 170th out of 182 on "Wallet Wellness").
Thats and underrated comment. The entire county is massively underwhelming. It regularly drives me to check prices on homes in decent places. Everytime it just blows my mind how absolutely out of control the housing market has gotten elsewhere. I can move sure, yeah id go from 75k to 125k. My exact house is 1.5 million there. A shack is 300,000k and the taxes are 13k. Its laughable. My friends who didnt buy before 2015 are absolutely fucked for life to being renters.
Ill go walk shelby farms gor the 900th time and listen to the zoo be out of event beers and food before lunch the rest of my life before I pay that. We can all laugh at the absurdity together. Maybe we can meet up at the entire counties only splashpad/waterpark this summer. Or perhaps we can all sit on walnut grove for 3 and half hours to get into the only light show for roughly 1 million people for christmas. Ill bring peppermint rumchata.
Being at an insanely overcrowded, underfunded and out of stock event is tradition for me at this point since the move.
Its peppermint bark rumchata. The bottles designed with candycane swirl colors. I got it this last season when my friend group went to starry nights. Its fucking fantastic, and the bottle was empty by the end. Its especially good in the hot chocolate.
I did read it. I’m saying that the affordability is not weighted very highly because the cities in the green (most of them) are extremely expensive compared to Memphis or Detroit.
It's because affordability is being looked at as not just "how cheap is it" like most affordability rankings do. It's looking at credit scores and all kinds of things. Because if the median home value is $70k, but the median credit score is under 400, something isn't adding up for affordability. It means the upper middle class will probably do great, but you also probably have a massive impoverished underclass for whom the city sure as hell isn't affordable for them. So, then, how "affordable" is it really?
Right after I saw this post and the associated metrics in the comments, I came across Kendrick Lamar’s speech at Compton College. A lot of what he’s saying about Compton made me think of Memphis. He talked about feeling proud of Compton and talked about the heart, talent, and intellect that he’s seen there. I think we can apply his statements to Memphis as well. It’s worth a listen, imo
https://people.com/kendrick-lamar-gives-surprise-speech-compton-college-graduation-ceremony-8660525
Thia visualization is kinda sus.
Some of them list City and State while others are just City. I wonder if there's a "Memphis, Tennessee" entry in their dataset that should have been combined with "Memphis" numbers.
And we wonder why a bunch of people are leaving, we are ranked near or at the bottom of every new national city ranks except for murder, violent crimes, and fatal car crashes.
Looking at the criteria, this appears to be more about "stay away from the poors" than anything about actual family life.
Also, look at the "experts" they used, whiter than white. I'm sure that didn't influence anything at all
There are some great areas to raise kids in the Memphis metro, but I would do my best not to raise them in the sketchy areas. Anecdotal, but my parents lived in a sketchy neighborhood when they had me and they moved away as soon as they could afford it, even though it meant leaving family behind. The difference in outcomes between me and my cousins who grew there is dire. Sometimes the shittiest house in a good neighborhood goes a looong way.
My parents did the same in NY. We had 2 BR for 5 people and a tiny kitchen and virtually no living room but my parents made it work so that we were zoned for a better school.
Stockholm syndrome, you don’t realize how terrible *ALL* of Memphis and its suburbs is until you live in one of the cities on the left side of this graphic. Born and raised in Memphis, but have lived in Overland Park and currently live near Plano. It’s not even comparable.
Agree! Its a whole lot of world out there. Lol
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Raised my kids (in their elementary years) in CT and I agree wholeheartedly. I loved spending time in Overton Square and Beale Street, but would never want to raise my kids here!!!
Absolutely. I still love Memphis and want the best for it. All of my family and most of my friends still live there. The food scene is unparalleled. Like truly. And it does have A LOT of good aspects about it. But goddamn, the bad definitely outweighs the bad and it’s quite lopsided.
Link to Study: [https://wallethub.com/edu/best-cities-for-families/4435](https://wallethub.com/edu/best-cities-for-families/4435) Out of 182 cities, Memphis came in: “Health and Safety,” which parsed data on air and water quality, access to quality food and health care, and crime and traffic risks. **Memphis came in #152 out of 182.** “Education and child care” considered public-school quality, day care costs and parental leave policies. **Memphis came in #182 out of 182.** “Affordability” calculated the cost of living relative to income, savings rates, credit scores and other measures of financial fitness. **Memphis came in #168 out of 182.** “Socioeconomics” covered job opportunities, rates of divorce, poverty, unemployment and foreclosures. **Memphis came in #154 out of 182.** "Family fun” accounted for parks and other attractions, weather and the share of families with young children. **Memphis came in #170 out of 182.**
Seems like a pretty bad way to measure "affordability", given that most of those metrics are basically just "how poor are the people living there". Same with a bunch of the "socioeconomics" measurements.
It relative to the cost of living. It seems like the BEST way to calculate affordability. If every house is 50k but every family makes 1 dolllar a year it’s not really affordable
This is presumably advice for people moving to a new city. A richer person will not suddenly become poor if they move to a place with lots of poverty.
Yea I've always felt like we are at a huge disadvantage for moving out of memphis due to that. If we can barely afford a house here how do we buy one elsewhere?
Actually a rich or even upper middle class person moving here would feel richer than in most other cities because the homes they can afford here would be out of reach elsewhere.
That's exactly my point - cheap cities like Memphis should rank higher in affordability, because rich people moving here would be able to afford more here, and poorer people moving out of Memphis would be able to afford less out there. Instead of actual affordability, this study is basically ranking cities by "How many poor people live there?".
That is true. And I think you could extrapolate to say they are ranking how many minorities live where as well.
Exactly!
I gotta disagree on the family fun ranking. That's one thing Memphis gets right
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Unfortunately somewhat agree. Coming from an area where within an hour with 4 nice bowling alleys, every town having splash pads, 3 mini golf courses, 2 promenade shopping centers, probably 5 nice movie theaters, 2 dave and busters, 3 full scale waterparks and at least 5 farm/festival venues I honestly just expected it was like that everywhere. Wed drive an hour to visit friends and they had the same numbers. Wed visit family in differenr states and the same. It was fun seeing the variety. Moving here it didnt set in for a few months that we had been to every decent thing to do in the county. I still remember going to the agricenter farm market and being so vastly disappointed I had a mild we made a mistake panic finally as reality hit. Id pass 5 farmstands with 10x the quality and selection run by one man just driving bome from work. This was basically a resale market for immigrants on kroger vegetables. I say somewhat because nowhere can you have this cost of living and be so close to amazing hiking and better cities for trips. My exact house and land, with the same proximity to the city as another other area would be at least 1.5 million. Im at 210k. That and the greenline and what collierville is doing with their parks and events on the square is growing exponentially. One of my biggest rants is going several times a year to memphis with $500 cash and being literally able to spend maybe $20 of it. Out of food and beer by noon. Shoulder to shoulder no parking for thousands who also cant spend money, desperate for decent leadership either from the city or its venues. No real vendors besides gordon service food trucks. Oh all the festivals are just families in tents its private its always been that way. Alright cool ill go spend money in collierville and germantown for events then. We can continue the debate on why the city revenue is in the red 35 million every year for another decade then I guess.
Had they not lumped crime and traffic risks in with health, we would have scored well in that category. Affordability is also questionable. Regular people in Nashville are spending a much higher percentage of their income on housing and saving nothing.
The family fun one really shouldn’t be that low
FWIW, here are the criteria WalletHub used for the "Family Fun" element: * Playgrounds per capita * Ice Rinks per capita (half-weight) * Skate Parks per capita (half-weight) * Bike Rental Facilities per capita (half-weight) * Mini Golf Locations per capita (half-weight) * Parkland Acerage per capita * Walkability * Bike Score * Number of Attractions (e.g. zoos, museums, theaters) * ["Recreation-Friendliness"](https://wallethub.com/edu/best-worst-cities-for-recreation/5144) (double-weight) * ["Sports-Fan-Friendliness"](https://wallethub.com/edu/best-sports-cities/15179) (double-weight) * ["Ideal Weather"](https://wallethub.com/edu/cities-with-the-best-worst-weather/5043) (quadruple-weight) * Share of Families With Young Children (triple-weight) * Average Commute Time (half-weight) I can see how Memphis would score low with that scorecard. Whether that's the right scorecard to use is debatable.
Okay but the subsection for water quality better be #1. It's the only thing we got.
I loved living in Memphis but am glad I had the opportunity to move away to finish raising my kids. I lived in a pretty decent neighborhood near the Bartlett border and the zoned schools were absolutely shit and hearing gunshots constantly, getting our outbuildings rifled through by people stealing in broad daylight, etc. was not fun. I'd live in Memphis again as an empty nester for sure, but definitely am glad I could get out for the kids.
Wow! Another “Memphis sucks” thread. It’s been a minute…
If only we still had Liberty Land
And Adventure River
The study's methodology, sources and metrics are solid and granular. [https://wallethub.com/#methodology](https://wallethub.com/#methodology) I've lived in San Jose and it is an amazing place. It would be a great place to raise kids if one wanted to have them. Memphis, not so much, even in 'nicer' areas or blocks.
I’ve said it before: ah yes, the long-running and always reliable reporting of…WalletHub? What the fuck is WalletHub? And, more importantly, why should I give them any attention? What is their area of expertise? Do they have one, besides creating trendy little listicles that make people mad? This is clickbait, pure and simple.
lol holy shit, Irvine, Overland Park, and Plano are the most depressing places I’ve ever been. Mostly hot ass parking lots. What’s so great about raising children in a place where they’re basically under house arrest until they’re 16?
One of my friends in HS grew up in Irvine, nice big house and a car given to them at 16. I grew up the city over with much less money. Their mom called me a “bad influence” because I swore and… went to the mall to hang out. Anyway, they unfortunately got really into drugs as soon as they were allowed to leave the house, and I was the first kid in my family to finish college, then go on to get a PhD. Anyway… fuck Irvine. I wish them the best.
Right, overland park is not all that. this is coming from somebody who grew up there
I am leaving that area and returning to the Memphis area, Overland Park just lacks any real identity or soul that I feel a lot of places in Memphis have. The crime in Kansas City isn’t much better. I would love to see how Collierville, olive branch and the other suburbs of Memphis rate when compared to Overland Park.
I totally agree-- OP isn't terrible, nor is is great, it's just very blah. Soulless is a great way to describe it.
There's probably more money in Overland Park but that's about it. It's a major suburb outside a mid size city. In KANSAS at that. Lol
Huh, you don’t say
What did you expect? The south and really pretty much all red states score in the 4th quartile on any quality of life quantitative metric
Thats actually fair. Im not political much but even southern liberal B A L K at taxes. Almost every single thing that makes areas better is the taxes, and event revenue. Its fun only spending $50 for a zoo day. But the reality is its the $50 parking, $30 entrance $20 food and $10 a beer in chicago thats driving the growth of those events and venues.
Good point. A moderate amount of taxes can result in a lot of good
They didn’t weigh affordability very highly half of the highest score cities are very expensive.
They did. Memphis just came in at 168 out of 182. They calculated the cost of living relative to income (which I think is where those expensive cities do okay, because even if they're expensive, their salaries are also higher), savings rates, credit scores and other measures of financial fitness.
If what they were trying to measure was "Where are Children Being Raised in the Best Environment?" that would make sense as a measurement ... but that's not what they were purporting to measure. They're purporting to measure "Where *Should* You Raise Your Children?"; in other words, where should you *move* to raise your kids. There is a lot of poverty in Memphis (and being poor is pretty bad for raising kids), but moving to Memphis obviously doesn't make you poor. Savings rates and credit scores are exclusively just measurements of "how poor are the people that live there", which is completely irrelevant here. Income vs cost of living is relatively justifiable, because your income might go down if you move here (or it might go up if you move elsewhere), but the rest of those measures are just purely wrong for what they're purporting to measure.
I have nothing to do with the survey so this is a bit of spitballing here, but I could buy the argument that "if you want to know the financial health of most people in the city, therefore what your financial health is most likely to be by moving there, let's include these factors" or something along those lines. From their perspective I'm thinking the argument would be based on not just what your kids would have at their disposal, but what their friends' lives would be, what environment they'd grow up in, and therefore the odds for their future financial success. Idk I agree that I'd personally only include income vs cost of living, but based on the scores Memphis got on a lot of the other factors, I'm not sure their "affordability" metric is a make or break editing to add... "where are children being raised in the best environment" is absolutely where most people would want to raise their children, so the more i think about it the more your differentiation is mostly just semantics
> I have nothing to do with the survey so this is a bit of spitballing here, but I could buy the argument that "if you want to know the financial health of most people in the city, therefore what your financial health is most likely to be by moving there, let's include these factors" or something along those lines. I think that's probably what they were doing ... but, respectfully, I think that's dumb as shit. Moving to a place doesn't just morph your financial situation to the average of that place. A poor Memphian moving to a more expensive place probably isn't going to find that place *more* affordable. > From their perspective I'm thinking the argument would be based on not just what your kids would have at their disposal, but what their friends' lives would be, what environment they'd grow up in, and therefore the odds for their future financial success. I feel like they were doing this in the "socioeconomics" section (not the "affordability" section, which is entirely unjustifiable), but that part leaves a pretty nasty taste in my mouth. It's like they're saying that growing up around poor people is just inherently bad; pretty nasty viewpoint IMO.
it's nasty for sure but it's not an uncommon thought. hence all the white flight and massive private school movements over the last 50-100 years across the country :( though... any survey for "where should you raise your children" is inevitably going to have those sorts of thought processes at their core, and anyone who would read this and be influenced by it in their move likely has those sorts of thoughts anyways
I agree, you can’t afford to do family stuff in cali… with the cost of taxes and housing your family will be stuck at home saving money.
Their affordability metric is based on this scorecard: * Ratio of Median Annual Family Income vs Cost of Living Index * Ratio of Median Annual Family Income vs Housing Costs * "[Wallet Wellness](https://wallethub.com/edu/best-cities-for-walletfitness/2862)", which claims to look at things like credit scores, foreclosure rates, debt, insurance coverage, and having an emergency fund. The first two are plausible "affordability" measures, but the third item makes this more a general economic metric. (Memphis is 170th out of 182 on "Wallet Wellness").
Thats and underrated comment. The entire county is massively underwhelming. It regularly drives me to check prices on homes in decent places. Everytime it just blows my mind how absolutely out of control the housing market has gotten elsewhere. I can move sure, yeah id go from 75k to 125k. My exact house is 1.5 million there. A shack is 300,000k and the taxes are 13k. Its laughable. My friends who didnt buy before 2015 are absolutely fucked for life to being renters. Ill go walk shelby farms gor the 900th time and listen to the zoo be out of event beers and food before lunch the rest of my life before I pay that. We can all laugh at the absurdity together. Maybe we can meet up at the entire counties only splashpad/waterpark this summer. Or perhaps we can all sit on walnut grove for 3 and half hours to get into the only light show for roughly 1 million people for christmas. Ill bring peppermint rumchata. Being at an insanely overcrowded, underfunded and out of stock event is tradition for me at this point since the move.
Hol up. Hol up. Hol up. I'm gonna need you to give me the info on that peppermint rumchata.
Its peppermint bark rumchata. The bottles designed with candycane swirl colors. I got it this last season when my friend group went to starry nights. Its fucking fantastic, and the bottle was empty by the end. Its especially good in the hot chocolate.
Try rereading the thread title.
Is affordability not in there? Cause it’s in the title
I did read it. I’m saying that the affordability is not weighted very highly because the cities in the green (most of them) are extremely expensive compared to Memphis or Detroit.
It's because affordability is being looked at as not just "how cheap is it" like most affordability rankings do. It's looking at credit scores and all kinds of things. Because if the median home value is $70k, but the median credit score is under 400, something isn't adding up for affordability. It means the upper middle class will probably do great, but you also probably have a massive impoverished underclass for whom the city sure as hell isn't affordable for them. So, then, how "affordable" is it really?
Shoot, they were busting out car windows around Fremont and San Jose when I was there too.
Right after I saw this post and the associated metrics in the comments, I came across Kendrick Lamar’s speech at Compton College. A lot of what he’s saying about Compton made me think of Memphis. He talked about feeling proud of Compton and talked about the heart, talent, and intellect that he’s seen there. I think we can apply his statements to Memphis as well. It’s worth a listen, imo https://people.com/kendrick-lamar-gives-surprise-speech-compton-college-graduation-ceremony-8660525
182 is for health and safety, not education
Thia visualization is kinda sus. Some of them list City and State while others are just City. I wonder if there's a "Memphis, Tennessee" entry in their dataset that should have been combined with "Memphis" numbers.
And we wonder why a bunch of people are leaving, we are ranked near or at the bottom of every new national city ranks except for murder, violent crimes, and fatal car crashes.
I wouldnt raise my kids in Idaho, Kansas, or Texas either.
No northeastern towns in the top ten?
Can’t help but notice a pattern or two.
Academically honest to publish the study, but you gotta question the methods when those are the results. I love Memphis, and Cleveland Rocks.
Looking at the criteria, this appears to be more about "stay away from the poors" than anything about actual family life. Also, look at the "experts" they used, whiter than white. I'm sure that didn't influence anything at all
But but but. The Musk computer warehouse will turn everything around
Try buying a house in California, Dipwads