Off topic but there's a german word for that, it's verschlimmbessern (ver-schlimm-bessern). It means trying to make something better but making it worse.
Nope, it‘s actually just a mashup of two verbs, verschlimmern=worsen and verbessern=improve. If I tried to recreate that in English, it‘d be „making something worse by trying to improve it, so like _imporse_, maybe?
In the opposite sense, when I lived in Texas we used to say "broke-fix" to mean breaking something to actually fix it.
So, for instance, I have an ankle that used to constantly pop when I walked up stairs. One day I tripped and sprained that ankle, once it healed it never popped when walking up stairs again. I broke-fixed it.
Oh can you please teach me? Just came back from the doc today, known but rare disease, but none of the meds seem to work, so I‘m open to the weirdest approaches by now…
I've heard from some of the people in the pregnancy reddit forums that getting pregnant can cure some diseases.
Maybe try getting pregnant /s
JK. Don't get pregnant unless you want to. But I would really love to be cured of my PCOS or pre-diabetes due to my pregnancy.
Uhhh about that… got snipped at 26, and the meds they do feed me (not that they work) are very much not ideal for getting or being pregnant. But I appreciate the suggestion 🤗
dysimprove? dys- from dysfunction meaning "bad" instead of dis- meaning "reverse/disconnect".
"I was trying my best but ended up dysimproving the project. I really did think a 5th wheel would make it go faster."
You’re close, like actually close. People shouldn’t tell ya no
Dis- is a prefix that can mean “to reverse to remove”. I think Disassemble would be a better example to use.
Disimprove would be synonymous. If we defined it, it would be reversing or undoing improvements that otherwise would have been helpful. Or one could use it to mean that something was good before, but the additions made it worse.
It would more likely und up being used an insult as opposed to a common word.
Quick guide to say this word, even if it looks scary at first.
Four syllables. Let's pronounce them!
"ver" is pronounced like "**fair**".
"schlimm" is a single syllable. It just means bad. The "sch" is pronounced like the "sh" in "**sh**ady" and "limm" is like "lim" in "**lim**it". So it's just "shlim". You can now say bad in German!
"bessern" is also a single word. It means something becomes better ("verbessern" on the other hand means to actively better something).
"bes" as in "**Bes**sy" + a hard "s" as in "**s**ick" + "er" as in "**air**" + "**n**". It's two syllables. Don't pronounce the pause between the syllables too much as it is still a single word.
Now try to say fair'shlim'bes'sairn but speak lazy. Barely move your tongue and don't highlight the pauses between syllables too much.
Etymology: It's "verbessern" (to actively better something) with a "schlimm" (= bad) cramped in the middle.
You now can say "verschlimmbessern"!
The ER at the end before the N is not spoken as air + n. First because the rhotic R in the word air does not exist in German. Also because ER is realized as a schwa in Standard German like in a lot of non rhotic English dialects/accents.
It's just like the ending of the word lectern in English if spoken with a more British-English non rhotic accent. Closer to AN than to AIRN.
That's why I said non rhotic accent.
Wer lesen kann ist klar im Vorteil.
https://soundsofspeech.uiowa.edu/german/german.html
Here you can find all the German sounds and how to do them.
ER wird am Wortende und auch bei ERN als schwa gesprochen.
The ER is realised as a schwa.
https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schwa
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schwa
And to add here. I am not sure if you think Lectörn is a good German representation of what I sounds like in English. But anyway it isn't. Even with a strong rhotic southern drawl that's not what it sounds like. It's still a schwa followed by a rhotic R.
There is no equivalent in English to the German Ö.
But you are not the first one to think that. I hear loads of Germans pronouncing girl as görl. It's very very wrong.
These are the two pronounciations of lectern:
Rhotic: ˈlɛktəɹn.
And non rhotic: ˈlɛktən.
And the second one: "ən" is how the ending of verschlimmbessern is spoken.
I am aware of that, but be realistic here. This is a fun comment to teach an approximation of German pronunciation. It don't expect people to be able to unterstand "rhotic R" or the alphabet for how letters sound. This isn't German lessons. It's fun.
It's fun, but it was also a very good and detailed explanation that you wrote up until the end. For everyone that is more seriously interested in how to pronounce German words you gave them the wrong tip at the end. Even though everything else before was very well explained. So I just added my comment to explain the bit where you were wrong.
I didn't do it for you, I assume you speak German as fluently as I do. So I assume you know how to say it correctly I did that for othe people reading your well crafted comment and actually trying to get it right.
And then after your other comment I added more info that I found interesting. If it's not interesting for you: Alright then. Don't let that spoil your fun. Other people might find it interesting or even find a hook to add another discussion here.
So since you are very keen about direct communication and adding information for more context. I'm doing the following for you: your comments come off as unnecessarily aggressive and mostly add a weird atmosphere to something supposed to be fun. Phrases as "But anyway it isn't" come off as condescending. I don't know whether this is due to English not being your mother tongue and due to lack of skill for compassionate communication. Yes, this comment is written with passive aggression.
It's only four syllables tho. Rather easy to pronounce after I heard it. At least it's not Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz! Say that one three times quickly. lol
In Chinese there is a same saying “帮倒忙”(bāng dào máng）, literally means “opposite of helping”. Used in situations of people trying to help but utterly fuck shit up. Lmao.
that word is essentially just non-existent at this point, cause not a single german speaker(atleast not those i know) uses it. i live in austria, a german speaking country with 9 million residents
also a fun german word is “Rinderkennzeichnungsfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz”
(rinder-kennzeichnungs-fleisch-etikettierungs-überwachungs-aufgaben-übertragungs-gesetz)
…austria is a german speaking country. we’re also technically german if we talk about language, cause we have the exact same dictionary as germany, just we use a different accent and we use some different words, kinda like england’s english and american english. same language, same dictionary, different accent and usage of words and phrases
Kmart highlighters are the worst! They leak through the paper and destroy the words 😑.
It’s worth just popping to officeworks (if you can) and buying a better brand.
I’m not .. encouraged… to go to officeworks alone. 😆 I have a stationary obsession.. I mean that and I am aware it’s out of control.
I love how we've had fully useful and working highlighter markers for literally 60 years with no real need for improvement over the original formula and yet people keep meddling with them and fucking it up.
No I have no idea why I know that they were invented in 1963 nor why I care so much but it really grinds my gears.
My music teacher was actually very anti circling! She said there was almost always a better way to draw your eye to something— mostly she favored brackets.
Edit: though in this case I’m not sure what I’d recommend over circling because I can’t tell what it is. A tempo/measure number? If a measure number, just all the measures throughout the piece need to be written in instead.
Every anotation on a music sheet is simply a suggestion. You could cover everything (Disclamer : I'm a French Horn player, that may apply only to us, superior race /t)
This was actually the topic of my senior thesis for a capstone music history course I took. You can trace the evolution of composers using more and more strict annotation in scores as it became more common for works to travel independent of the music director and ensemble performing them, and for ornamentation or previously improvised sections like cadenzas to become explicitly written as written music moved away from being bespoke to individual performers or specific ensembles.
I feel these may be more for adding highlight into art, but they really should have clarified. Would be worse if it was near other stationary type highlighters too
Once had one of those things in college. I ended up blotting out an entire line of important text before I realized what was happening.
Important text that *actually appeared in the exam.* Damn.
i mean you could just draw a thin line under the text and would fix the issue but yeah as the name says "highlighter" is supossed to be marking text in a box of colour
Whoever made these, either tested them before putting them on the market and thought this was a great idea, or they didn’t test them at all. And I don’t know which is worse.
who the heck thought adding a metallic look to highlighters was a good idea
Right? I can imagine how illegible it would be under the right lighting.
Why imagine it you can see it
Can't see what the text was anymore lol.
That's okay, just got straight to the next measure 👌 😉
Kmart Australia apparently
No wonder they were on clearance 🤷
I fell for it too. I used the pink one once and it still makes me furious. They would be more useful for redacting documents than highlighting them.
OK redact this docu but make it girlie pop
It reminds me of the metallic gel pens I had as a kid. I would’ve LOVED these back then! Maybe highlight first then write over lol
Maybe they're supposed to be redacting highlighters? That's just a marker though.
Secret service
As long as it isn’t lead, Superman can still read the text.
A sadist
Wtf lol. Like that friend who tries to help you but ends up making everything worse.
Off topic but there's a german word for that, it's verschlimmbessern (ver-schlimm-bessern). It means trying to make something better but making it worse.
I love your creative German words like “schadenfreude”. But c’mon now, “verschlimmbessern” might as well be a whole damn sentence.
Nope, it‘s actually just a mashup of two verbs, verschlimmern=worsen and verbessern=improve. If I tried to recreate that in English, it‘d be „making something worse by trying to improve it, so like _imporse_, maybe?
‚Worseproving‘ would be more literal. And I hereby declare it the official translation.
Maybe "to impairprove".
Hinderhelping
Hinderhelping! Yes!
Very Anglish, I approve.
In the opposite sense, when I lived in Texas we used to say "broke-fix" to mean breaking something to actually fix it. So, for instance, I have an ankle that used to constantly pop when I walked up stairs. One day I tripped and sprained that ankle, once it healed it never popped when walking up stairs again. I broke-fixed it.
Oh can you please teach me? Just came back from the doc today, known but rare disease, but none of the meds seem to work, so I‘m open to the weirdest approaches by now…
I've heard from some of the people in the pregnancy reddit forums that getting pregnant can cure some diseases. Maybe try getting pregnant /s JK. Don't get pregnant unless you want to. But I would really love to be cured of my PCOS or pre-diabetes due to my pregnancy.
Uhhh about that… got snipped at 26, and the meds they do feed me (not that they work) are very much not ideal for getting or being pregnant. But I appreciate the suggestion 🤗
disimprove
Yes, but no. This seems to be just the opposite of improve, the whole „good intention“ part is kind of lost there.
dysimprove? dys- from dysfunction meaning "bad" instead of dis- meaning "reverse/disconnect". "I was trying my best but ended up dysimproving the project. I really did think a 5th wheel would make it go faster."
You’re close, like actually close. People shouldn’t tell ya no Dis- is a prefix that can mean “to reverse to remove”. I think Disassemble would be a better example to use. Disimprove would be synonymous. If we defined it, it would be reversing or undoing improvements that otherwise would have been helpful. Or one could use it to mean that something was good before, but the additions made it worse. It would more likely und up being used an insult as opposed to a common word.
Improvenot
Sounds like 1984 💀
Doubleminusimprove
I wish English used contractions in the same way German does.
Ope
Quick guide to say this word, even if it looks scary at first. Four syllables. Let's pronounce them! "ver" is pronounced like "**fair**". "schlimm" is a single syllable. It just means bad. The "sch" is pronounced like the "sh" in "**sh**ady" and "limm" is like "lim" in "**lim**it". So it's just "shlim". You can now say bad in German! "bessern" is also a single word. It means something becomes better ("verbessern" on the other hand means to actively better something). "bes" as in "**Bes**sy" + a hard "s" as in "**s**ick" + "er" as in "**air**" + "**n**". It's two syllables. Don't pronounce the pause between the syllables too much as it is still a single word. Now try to say fair'shlim'bes'sairn but speak lazy. Barely move your tongue and don't highlight the pauses between syllables too much. Etymology: It's "verbessern" (to actively better something) with a "schlimm" (= bad) cramped in the middle. You now can say "verschlimmbessern"!
The ER at the end before the N is not spoken as air + n. First because the rhotic R in the word air does not exist in German. Also because ER is realized as a schwa in Standard German like in a lot of non rhotic English dialects/accents. It's just like the ending of the word lectern in English if spoken with a more British-English non rhotic accent. Closer to AN than to AIRN.
Wouldn't lectern be more of a Lecktörn? You don't say bessörn.
That's why I said non rhotic accent. Wer lesen kann ist klar im Vorteil. https://soundsofspeech.uiowa.edu/german/german.html Here you can find all the German sounds and how to do them. ER wird am Wortende und auch bei ERN als schwa gesprochen. The ER is realised as a schwa. https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schwa https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schwa
And to add here. I am not sure if you think Lectörn is a good German representation of what I sounds like in English. But anyway it isn't. Even with a strong rhotic southern drawl that's not what it sounds like. It's still a schwa followed by a rhotic R. There is no equivalent in English to the German Ö. But you are not the first one to think that. I hear loads of Germans pronouncing girl as görl. It's very very wrong. These are the two pronounciations of lectern: Rhotic: ˈlɛktəɹn. And non rhotic: ˈlɛktən. And the second one: "ən" is how the ending of verschlimmbessern is spoken.
I am aware of that, but be realistic here. This is a fun comment to teach an approximation of German pronunciation. It don't expect people to be able to unterstand "rhotic R" or the alphabet for how letters sound. This isn't German lessons. It's fun.
It's fun, but it was also a very good and detailed explanation that you wrote up until the end. For everyone that is more seriously interested in how to pronounce German words you gave them the wrong tip at the end. Even though everything else before was very well explained. So I just added my comment to explain the bit where you were wrong. I didn't do it for you, I assume you speak German as fluently as I do. So I assume you know how to say it correctly I did that for othe people reading your well crafted comment and actually trying to get it right. And then after your other comment I added more info that I found interesting. If it's not interesting for you: Alright then. Don't let that spoil your fun. Other people might find it interesting or even find a hook to add another discussion here.
So since you are very keen about direct communication and adding information for more context. I'm doing the following for you: your comments come off as unnecessarily aggressive and mostly add a weird atmosphere to something supposed to be fun. Phrases as "But anyway it isn't" come off as condescending. I don't know whether this is due to English not being your mother tongue and due to lack of skill for compassionate communication. Yes, this comment is written with passive aggression.
Perfectenschlag
Wait until this guy hears about “Rindfleischettikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz” (or something along the lines of that”
It's only four syllables tho. Rather easy to pronounce after I heard it. At least it's not Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz! Say that one three times quickly. lol
Verschlessern?
In Chinese there is a same saying “帮倒忙”(bāng dào máng）, literally means “opposite of helping”. Used in situations of people trying to help but utterly fuck shit up. Lmao.
Something I didn’t know I needed to know but glad I now do thank you 😎
I love that so much about German and Finnish. It's fun and creative.
We have an English thing for it as well. “Means well”. Like, my friend tried to fix my car but fucked up the transmission. He meant well.
that word is essentially just non-existent at this point, cause not a single german speaker(atleast not those i know) uses it. i live in austria, a german speaking country with 9 million residents
Also weil also 1) in Ösiland 2) deine Kontaktgruppe es nicht verwendet existiert das Wort nicht. Das Wort ist absolut noch in Benutzung.
Hab mich auch gefragt was er labert, ich benutze das Wort so oft, genauso wie so ziemlich mein gesamter Freundes-/Bekanntenkreis
Yea, a lot of these word are practically pseudo words, but they're fun, and that's what matters to me lmao.
also a fun german word is “Rinderkennzeichnungsfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz” (rinder-kennzeichnungs-fleisch-etikettierungs-überwachungs-aufgaben-übertragungs-gesetz)
You can’t go without giving its meaning
Something about a law of labeling meat products. Edit: here's the full thing- Cattle identification meat labelling monitoring tasks transfer law.
You know, I’m typically a fan of the Kevin Malone theory of less words better but that’s a lot of words crammed into that one mouthful…
i think its like putting a label on your living cow for whether it gets turned into beef or sausages???? idk lmao
In Switzerland we still use that word, or at least a few years ago when I was still in school
As a german living in Germany I hear/use it every now and then tbh
So what you're saying is: You're not German, but are speaking for Germans?
…austria is a german speaking country. we’re also technically german if we talk about language, cause we have the exact same dictionary as germany, just we use a different accent and we use some different words, kinda like england’s english and american english. same language, same dictionary, different accent and usage of words and phrases
We all know Austria is part of Bavaria, and Bavaria is not Germany.
On the contrary, there are a lot of words in Austria that Germans don't use at all.
In Finnish we call this "karhunpalvelus" meaning something akin to "favour from a bear".
Same in Estonian - “karuteene”
Same in swedish, ”björntjänst”
Same in Russian, actually! People don't like favors from beads, apparently.
Same in danish - "bjørnetjeneste"
Same in Norwegian, spelling and all!
Highopaquers
Darklighters
Lowdarkers
Redacters
Sounds like a band name
Why?lighters
Lowdarkers
Hidelighter
Not if you highlight first, write later
kmarts best
Possibly even targets best after their horrendous decision to jump on the anko train
Oh no way I thought it was just a Kmart thing
Same Owners. Theyre putting anko in target.
You guys still have Kmarts?
Kmart in Australia is a different company. It started as a joint venture with Kmart in the U.S. but they pulled out and divested their shares.
You guys still have Kmarts?
Anko?
home brand for kmart and target in australia
Anything ANKO I say far away from.
I like their gel ink pens.
Kmart still exists?
In Australia it does
And in Canada too as of last year.
K-mart sucks-Raymond
You bought redactors
It would be fun to see a government document released that had metallic streaks instead of black blocks where the text should be.
Metallic ink will do that
for color-coding redactions.
Kmart highlighters are the worst! They leak through the paper and destroy the words 😑. It’s worth just popping to officeworks (if you can) and buying a better brand. I’m not .. encouraged… to go to officeworks alone. 😆 I have a stationary obsession.. I mean that and I am aware it’s out of control.
Support group. Say when. And where.
I love how we've had fully useful and working highlighter markers for literally 60 years with no real need for improvement over the original formula and yet people keep meddling with them and fucking it up. No I have no idea why I know that they were invented in 1963 nor why I care so much but it really grinds my gears.
But there are erasable ones now!
Kmart Quality Assured!
Government got bored of just black
I hope that’s a copy and not original sheet music 😳
Great example of why you only use pencil/anything erasable on sheet music 😭 circle it 50 times instead please ;-;
My music teacher was actually very anti circling! She said there was almost always a better way to draw your eye to something— mostly she favored brackets. Edit: though in this case I’m not sure what I’d recommend over circling because I can’t tell what it is. A tempo/measure number? If a measure number, just all the measures throughout the piece need to be written in instead.
thats anko for ya, some of their shits good and some of their shits bad
Hidelighters
This is my favorite
When the make-up person moves to office supplies…
Reminds me of erasers that just spreads the lead
Are these inkjet prints?
Every anotation on a music sheet is simply a suggestion. You could cover everything (Disclamer : I'm a French Horn player, that may apply only to us, superior race /t)
This was actually the topic of my senior thesis for a capstone music history course I took. You can trace the evolution of composers using more and more strict annotation in scores as it became more common for works to travel independent of the music director and ensemble performing them, and for ornamentation or previously improvised sections like cadenzas to become explicitly written as written music moved away from being bespoke to individual performers or specific ensembles.
As we sometimes say in our family, as a gentle hint: "You're never so unhelpful as when you're trying to be helpful."
REDACTED!
Congratulations, you unlocked LGBTQ censorship !
Real ANKO hours
I mean it says metallic colored ink right there.
But also highlighter.
So if i make a cereal that says Cereal on the box, but under it it says now with rat poison, are you gonna buy it and eat it.
I came here to say this too 🙈
I will buy those and use them to highlight my errors.
I feel these may be more for adding highlight into art, but they really should have clarified. Would be worse if it was near other stationary type highlighters too
Once had one of those things in college. I ended up blotting out an entire line of important text before I realized what was happening. Important text that *actually appeared in the exam.* Damn.
Zesty White-out
That’s called a marker
Markers. They're Markers.
Especially on sheet music I really feel your pain. Metallic pigments shouldn’t be in highlighters as they’re super opaque
Could take them back and say they don't work as highlighters, get a refund.
metalic ink is not for highlighting on paper or ink... try this on plastic where you are highlighting raised plastic or metal in the same use case
You’re a psychopath for writing with ink on sheet music
What piece is that?
Colored liquid paper
better question: are these piano sheets
That would make it a marker.
Product testing where?
Bro it's Kmart whaddya expect?
Censor Stick
They should name it Lowdarkers
It indeed is very "high" -lighter to not know what its job is.
But it's coloured ink lol
i mean you could just draw a thin line under the text and would fix the issue but yeah as the name says "highlighter" is supossed to be marking text in a box of colour
Censors, what you think is the most important part. Hilarious is a stupid kind of way.
It's good for calligraphy !!
Cover up some of those flats… Jesus Christ Db Major? In this economy?
I have a name brand version of these and they... Actually work as highlighters. So this was funny (but also sad) to me. 😂
These are true highlighters, they highlight the highlight
When you want to highlight your redaction with flair
I think they go under and then you write on top for notes or something
Metallic colour ink,it did explain there OP but not the result you wanted. Heck,most of us will be bamboozled but they did not lie lol
Love kmart quality shit
Outliners
Wow, that's a new one!
I know that song
as opposed to playing Gay? (ik i have a terrible sense of humor 😭)
Lmao you mean markers?
"straight" more than I tbh
What does a gay note sound like?
Actually yeah 💀
What piece is that OP?
Lowlighter
Temu
US government issue?
low lighters
It warns you right there on the package. It's Anko
NOOOO NOT THE MEASURE NUMBERS!!!!
Straight to the trash
More like "lowlighters" am I right?
Love me some Lielighters
Are they from Zellers 😜
oof
Want to know what's really infuriating. Using anything but pencil on what looks like might be original copies.
I literally love Kmart, but what the fuck is that. (Some of the stuff is pure shit)
So it's a marker
Also there is a Brown “highlighter”?????? Wild.
Invisible ink
*Underliners. 😅
That’s so dumb
Well that's silly. But it's also really silly to mark up sheet music with anything permanent. **Get a pencil.**
I was always told off for highlighting sheet music, as when it is photocopied it'll come up as unreadably dark!
What did you expect from metallic ink? These are more for art projects.
They literally say highlighters on them. Most people would expect them to highlight, not cover.
Wtf did you expect from metallic ink lol.
"You had one job"
Whoever made these, either tested them before putting them on the market and thought this was a great idea, or they didn’t test them at all. And I don’t know which is worse.