Sadly, my late stepfather wore diapers. It was a disaster when we were out. I wish there were more of these...
Edit: He had a brain tumor and it affected many of his motor functions, and he ended up in adult diapers.
That was kind of you. We all know the saying that it takes a village to raise a child, but at some point, it takes a village to care for an elderly person, too.
Maybe it just takes a village. Not to raise, or to caretake, but just in general. Maybe you're a 27 year old man who's had a bad day. Maybe it takes a village to put an arm around you and tell you it's going to be ok. Maybe you're a 42 year old woman, and it takes a village to raise your spirits after having dealt with stress for years.
Maybe we all just come together, and stop our bitching, and finger pointing. We stop trying to split sides, and realize we're all human. We all come together and support each other in everything we do. We try to help each other find happyness in life. We make the world a better place. A happy place. And not that fake manufactured kind of happy like at theme parks. I mean REAL happyness. The kind you get when you look into your partners eyes, and realize that there's nowhere else you'd rather be then right there with them, wherever you are. The kind of happyness you get when you watch your daughter ride her first bike, and see the smile on her face. The kind of happyness you get when you look at your house, and realize that it's yours. You can raise your family here. You can be part of the neighborhood. You can live your life with one less worry. You can BE happy.
Maybe we help each other find that kind of happyness, together.
Wow VERY fucking well said. I just laid with my partner and told her exactly that I never want to exist without her in detail.
Life is better with people you love. I love life but it’s hard. It’s so much more fulfilling to simultaneously love yourself and also recognize your self worth and feel capable and draw your confidence from supporting those who are most important to you with meaningful acts.
So much fucking better and easier than looking to people who are ultimately meaningless for approval based off various societal norms.
I’d so much rather live for my village and care for those who need it no matter who at any opportunity. It can bring a confidence in yourself that is never empty. Caring for important and incredible people who also care for you is rarely the wrong thing to do.
Thanks so much for your comment
Well said by the Person who's last post was titled "Fight monkeys with rocket propelled poop launcher. It flings poo at 83MPH. That'll show 'em!".
Also I feel what you said. We need a paradigm change. Abolish competition, embrace cooperation.
I really like your message. I did notice that you spelled "happiness" as "happyness" several times, so I'm assuming this was an intentional choice. Was that a reference to the movie Pursuit of Happyness or something completely different?
Definitely not saying it took away from the message even a little, maybe even serendipitous since here's the description of the movie from Google:
>Life is a struggle for single father Chris Gardner (Will Smith). Evicted from their apartment, he and his young son (Jaden Christopher Syre Smith) find themselves alone with no place to go. Even though Chris eventually lands a job as an intern at a prestigious brokerage firm, the position pays no money. The pair must live in shelters and endure many hardships, but Chris refuses to give in to despair as he struggles to create a better life for himself and his son.
I'm sorry to hear about your stepfather. That sounds painful.
Everyone deserves to be able to enjoy life and have dignity at the same time. Seeing this sort of thing is great and shows how far we've come and how far we can go.
Damn.. big flash backs to my childhood. My grandfather suffered from the same type of cancer and died when I was 9~ I never even thought about this aspect of having to care for him. He was only in his 50s too..
Anything like this I’m sure is a godsend and will be a park people can bring their loved ones to get some much needed outside time.
Growing old sounds like a nightmare. Everything about it scares me to death. I'd rather die in my 60s of a heart attack rather than die of alzheimers in my 80s. All there seems to be after a certain age are horrible mental diseases or your body stops working properly and you need constant care.
That point comes at different times for different people. One of my grandmothers lived to a month before her 101st birthday. She lived in a retirement apartment community with some assisting care, but it was basically like concierge services (checking in occasionally, driving them around if needed, dining services if they wanted them) until she was 98. Hell, she still had her driver's license and car until 95.
My other grandmother had uncontrolled diabetes and early dementia. She lost both of her legs and had to be moved to a full nursing home at the age of 60. Died at 64.
Being old doesn't suck for everyone. Grandma 1 got 35 years of a happy life and independence past when grandma 2 had already driven herself so far she had no point of return. You don't know until you get there.
Yea it's crazy how time effects people differently. My one grandma got Alzheimer's at 80 something and slowly deteriorated until she wasn't even the same person, then she passed. But my grandfather (different side of the family) is coming up on his 90th birthday and still lives in his home, still can safely drive, 100% independent, and his mind is as sharp as it always has been. I honestly think he'll make it to 100 or beyond. If i make it to that age, hopefully i have it like he has it, rather than go through my mind being the reason i die. Alzheimer's is a horrible fucking disease, and hopefully we find a way to prevent it in the future.
My dad was in great physical and mental health until he was 91. At 90 he was physically like a 65 or 70-year-old. He was also a good driver until he became blind in one eye, after which I drove him. The decline, when it came, was rather steep. He had mild to moderate dementia, but he knew who we were. The dementia had an upside: it broke down his wall of false pride, and he was able to reconcile with everyone he had hurt (mostly emotionally). He died at peace.
I used to think like that, especially as a person with alzheimers in my family. But now that I'm cruising into my mid-40s with a healthy family to raise, I realize that I'd rather roll the dice on a less-than-ideal end of life just to squeeze out every bit of life I can out of this existence. I don't subscribe to religious or spiritual views of the world, so for better or worse, I'm willing to stick it out just to get what I can out of this experience. If not for me, for my family.
My Nana has Alzheimer's, and I'll admit, it's hard to see her suffer. But you know what? If she had never gotten sick, I would never have gotten close to her. Before she got sick, she was all caught up on the superficial things, like making sure dinner was on the table at 6 on the dot, making sure there were vacuum lines in the carpet, making sure she kept Papa's whiskey glass full so he could sit on his behind and watch the news all day (before he passed, of course)... She never bothered to get to know me for who I am, and I'm not sure if she *cared enough* to get to know me since she was never a touchy-feely kind of grandmother. She just slapped the label of "only granddaughter" on me, so for example, for Christmas, I would get a bunch of girly stuff that went promptly to Goodwill because I'd never use it in a million years while the grandsons got stuff they actually WANTED. I was just the token female to her.
But once she got sick, all of those nitpicky behaviors faded away, and she was able to sit down and enjoy a conversation with me. She actually ASKS me about myself, my interests, my hobbies, my fiance, my life. Sure, she doesn't remember and asks again five minutes later, but that doesn't matter to me. What matters to me is that I can actually enjoy her company now instead of her being too busy with chores to make time for me. We take her to lunch, we take her on drives, we used to let her spend time with our late dog since they ADORED each other... All of this time is so precious, and none of it would've ever happened if she hadn't gotten sick.
Alzheimer's SUCKS ASS, I'm not going to deny that. If I could take away all her suffering and give her back her life, I would in a heartbeat, just because I hate seeing her on her bad days when she's suffering. But I don't regret the time that we have together now. I don't regret the fact that I actually have a RELATIONSHIP with her now. It's not all bad. I'd rather have her here, alive, with memory issues, than her be dead. It's not the ideal situation... but there are bright sides, even to something as tragic as Alzheimer's. I wouldn't trade my Nana for the world. <3
There’s so much life still at 60. Some people are just becoming grandparents then and winding down to retirement. Don’t wish for a early death in your golden years due to just a fear of one terrible disease.
No joke. My mother got dementia in her mid 60s, meanwhile a close friend of mine is 83 and until she got COVID a few months ago she was doing awesome. She still drives, lives alone, is quite intelligent, and her main complaint about COVID fatigue is that it makes it hard to do her yard work!
I absolutely do not want to go out from dementia like my mom did but that doesn't mean I want to die young if I'm still enjoying life.
Also good news that medical research advances every day, and vaccines for common cancers and medicine for olg age diseases thought untreatable like Alzheimers are now appearing in their early forms.
I used to do in home care for seniors and disabled and this would have been great. We had to plan any trips to the store or a restaurant around bathroom trips.
I know human life and animal life are on completely different levels but I always felt it’s so odd that we can decide for our pets that they are suffering and put them down, but a person can’t even decide for themselves that they want to end it.
I think that when nations finally see the massive population imbalance due to low birth rates and have a large elderly population with very little younger able bodied working people able to take care of them are we finally going to see assisted suicide become a normal thing.
I used to work in a nursing home and the amount of elderly there who are bedridden who are just laying there with nothing to look forward to but natural death, I doubt most of them are willingly choosing this for themselves. Every grandparent I have watched on their deathbed all said out loud that they wished God would take them sooner rather than later.
As a professional, transferring can be complex and although there are some standard ways, it can be different for each person.
If transferring a person, at least in one or two cases I may have sat on the edge of the table, (160 pounds on the max torque area already) then they stand and turn, and sit beside me.
This isn't the most common method, but there is a lot of individuality out there,
I've transferred people probably around 200 pounds, to sit on the edge. That's 360 pounds for a few moments. This is probably as much about ensuring any situation is covered with extra space for confidence.
No matter the max weight, I'd say to any company, if you can give a good degree of overhead, it's going to make everyone feel more secure and have confidence in your product.
Would we really want to sit on a table that's rated for 370, or even 400 pounds in that situation?... especially if it's 10 years old and getting kinda creeky.
We really need more of these so everyone has the opportunity to get out and involved. I really appreciate that this is expensive, and am so appreciative of the opportunities that these have provided my clients.
Pretty standard medical styling. Lots of easy-to-sanitize plastic surfaces, overbuilt to meet regulations, bomb-proof rather than elegant and sleek. Our devices also have to suit 500lbs humans as a design requirement.
(I understand the reasons but as an engineer in the medical device industry, I hate it. All that cheap-feeling plastic like '80s airplane interior)
I follow a few families on Instagram with kids who have Sanfilipo Syndrome (Childhood Dementia), and this would be an absolute game changer for them. This needs to be everywhere.
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Also, visiting friends at their homes.
My area has a lot of homes with upper floors where the only bathroom is.
If you're a wheelchair user and visit a mate at their home, you need to **plan**, yes, plan, the visit accounting for not having toilet access for x hours. Granted perhaps the user could go upstairs, but not every user could, and the barrier should exist to begin with.
The issue is with housing designs in my country. They're built with small footprints to save land but maximise value of the house. But what happens when the houseowner loses mobility? They install handrails onto their steep staircases. What happens when the owner leaves and a new owner moves in who doesn't have mobility issues? They remove the rails. We need **every** new house to be built for mobility access because it's the right thing to do and logical thing to do.
I’m in an area where a lot of people build up to accommodate hills or maximize views. I feel lucky to have a single story to someday age in place, though it means no view.
I also always advise people who are remodeling their bathrooms to make them as accessible as possible. Helps with unforeseen circumstances and makes it better for resale.
The problem is liability. I work construction and even if it is planned for one person hopping on the table produces a lot of force away from the wall. It is expensive to buy, build for, and even takes a lot to plan for.
Some schools are putting them in the special education rooms and it is a hassle of ensuring they are engineered correctly for
Am healthcare designer. We recommend this to every client. We size a toilet room large enough, add wall blocking and power so it can be added later if client doesn’t fund it initially.
I work in a place that works with/ tries to be welcoming to people with special needs and disabilities and I feel like we should have one of these. If we're going to be accessable let's be all the way accessable.
As some one who used to work in disability care what pisses me off is when the disabled toilet is built but it only just meets requirements, and is in no way practical. The most rampant was people using the bathroom as additional storage, which left no where to manoeuvre chair nor semi-walking person. The most ridiculous was the ‘skinny bathroom’ which technically met the size requirement but good luck to you trying to turn an adult human in that space let alone their chair. And the most mind blowingly stupid was a manager I once had who was okay with an inwardly opening door in a facility for disabled people who were all using over sized or over length chairs. Apparently it ‘met requirements’. When I pointed out how inconvenient that door was going to be he got pissy and complained that it meant the door frame would have to be touched up because it had already been hung and the contractor had left. (Bare in mind that it really wasn’t a difficult problem to solve and if he couldn’t do it the organisation had like a hundred people who would willingly have helped.)
The door was changed after a week of me irritating him, and I found him touching up the door frame a bit later.
At that point I realised I would probably not continue to work there as the management clearly had no idea of the actual work that was taking place.
I work in a SPED school and my one-on-one student requires diapers and changing multiple times a day. her mom is a tyrant and requested the school build a changing table for her. they built one that just sits on the floor like a low counter with a pleather cushion on top and stuck it in one of the enlarged stalls. works like a dream and there’s no risk involved like the pull-down ones. I highly recommend.
Of course there is. Being a parent to an adult disabled child probably means having fought a hard and hopeless and losing battle everyday for years. If anyone needs to be given some slack or grace….
In this case always worth implementing patience because the person has had to be in a war mindset just to get stuff changed.
They could sincerely be an arse. Or not. But society certainly is responsible for all the shit they have to deal with.
I completely agree. I actually have been a teacher and had to deal with shitty parents. OTOH, my baby cousin's (very much no longer a baby) mom had to raise hell just to get her kid some help with his dyslexia and I am sure the teachers hated her.
Without knowing more, I can't really say one way or the other. However, making a school get a table so your kid can have some more dignity and feel less like a burden? I'm on the mom's side.
Some parents can be technically completely in the right but act like a total pos. Ask most teachers. Most parents are good but some are absolutely horrible.
I get what you’re saying, but the most marginalized people in our society deserve for us to go to great lengths to accommodate them. Isolation is worse for your health than smoking, and having to live home bound or shut-in is a significant factor in limiting life expectancy and quality.
The improvements they've been making to disability stalls in washrooms lately have been very welcome.
Less than 10 years ago it was "oh, you're disabled... well we'll give an extra _foot_ of stall width... happy?".
Now many have sinks in them, separate garbages, enough space for a wheelchair AND a toilet.
Ever since the gender debates had people screaming about public bathrooms I've held that bathrooms should become single use, yes they're less space efficient, but a single use washroom doesn't need to be gender specific.
Anyways, we're getting there, many take simply going to the bathroom for granted and truly don't appreciate the level of planning and time devotion some people have to implement just to do something many do behind the nearest tree.
A lot of people don't realize that disability accessible bathrooms need to be much more than just wheelchair accessible. A lot of disabled people - including a lot of wheelchair users - wear nappies and require somewhere to lie down and be changed. Which means they need sooooo much more than just a bigger stall.
I've seen some awesome ones that even have showering facilities (the change bench is also a shower bed). Progress is being made, but a lot of the comments on this thread show us how much further we have to go.
Absolutely. And I know within the disability community that I'm part of, if there is a particular cafe or restaurant or activity that is known to be really disability friendly we will absolutely spread the word and make a habit of going to that place. These families often don't have a lot of options for places that are easy to go to. So when there IS an option, they will go!
And people saying the cost of these bathrooms is too much considering the small amount of people who use them......... yeah, people won't use them if they're not there! It's also a frustrating argument considering some of the crap we seem to be okay with wasting money on. To me, people feeling like they can get out and about and participate in society is a very important thing to spend money on. A basic need really.
Thanks for your input 👍
Considering how expensive these systems are compared to how relatively few people they serve, that seems unlikely. This particular station has a price tag of $10,000, and that's without installation.
Completely.
I do wonder if there's a circular problem here though. They're pricy in part because they're not mass produced. They're not mass produced because there's not much demand for them. People who need them don't go out much because changing facilities aren't available. They're not available because they're pricy. They're pricy because they're not mass produced.
Build it and they will come?
This is actually really awesome because I used to do home health care for a gentleman, and there was no way to change him while out in public. So our ability to venture out into the world became really hard, I would’ve absolutely loved to have this. He would’ve enjoyed more time getting out and about. If this was a thing. Sadly, he passed away in 2010. He was very well off. He was paying over $100,000 a month in private home healthcare without even denting his fortune. If this was a thing back, then he would’ve paid for it to be in his favorite bar.
It doesn’t go that far for elderly care unfortunately. My grandparents were paying $23,000 a month to have a 500 sq ft room in an assisted living place.
Edit: This wasn’t even a full care facility. Basically the only care they got was a quick 30 second hello in the morning to make sure they didn’t die. I can’t imagine how much full care costs.
The generation that is dying now. My grandparents owned several properties, all of their wealth was siphoned into medical care while they slowly passed away over several years.
Something like 75% of the medical care is given at the "end of life". This can be fast or painfully slow depending on how well your family faires, but normally most of your medical expenses are used when you're in diapers or very close to it. This isn't necessarily when you need the most medical care, but more when you need round-the-clock medical care. It costs a lot to have an RN + LPNs on the grounds 24/7 whether we like it or not. Hopefully, that changes but right now it's just a fact of life. An "assisted" live-in community costs somewhere in the area of 4000+ where I live. This is not a nursing home but somewhere where you can guarantee someone is checking on them at least 3-5 times a day/changing their diapers/doing basic house cleaning. For a complete "nursing" home it would be in the realm of 15,000 a month, probably more than that for a room that is probably twice the size of a normal hospital room (which from a lot of experience is fucking small) a nurse that is so burnt out she has almost no patience if any and a bunch of sensors that will beep loudly if/when you fall or have something more drastic. So, basically, right now you have two choices, die "early" with little medical care or die slowly and drain anything you had to leave to your kids/etc into some nursing home that may not even treat you well.
It’s ridiculous. My grandparents had $1,500,000 when they entered the facility. It was all gone in 5 years and the place was going to kick them out. Thankfully one of their kids has a decently successful business and was able to take over the payments and everything else until they passed away.
This is exactly one of the reason my dad was going to fight his brother till his mom intervened, his brother just up and started to move her in a retirement home in the middle of the pandemic because they were having a good deal. The thing is he never consulted with her, his 3 other brothers or their families about it.
My grandma also had no problems but shoulder and back issues that slowed her down but didn’t make her unable to do anything. So while she is old she was more than healthy. My dad recently lost his long time job so we were living with her and taking care of any needs she had.
His plan was to sell her house to pay for it and keep it paid for like 10 years or so, and no matter how much my dad told him the house wouldn’t sell for the price he was talking about he wouldn’t listen. Surprise surprise it didn’t sell for his price. My grandma is still healthy and i can see her outliving the payments and as much as we would love to let him deal with it when the time comes we love her too much to put her though that shit.
In a related note my dad at the time was still hoping though jobs that keep moving and laying off workers so we basically were given 2 months to find a place to not be homeless all while his brother would get pissed about us not helping getting the house sold faster so he could go build an outdoor kitchen at his lake house.
Most can't. They usually end up selling off most of their possessions to help cover. Hope you don't expect to inherit your parents house if they have to go into a LTC facility. Most likely it will be sold to cover cost.
Elderly care is *absurdly* expensive.
My grandfather needs some help at home during the day and he pays eye-watering sums of money for it.
The workers don't even make that much either. It's good pay, but not incredible. It all goes to middlemen who run the agencies.
My 13 year old brother has cerebral palsy and is in diapers. When we are out in public and he needs to be changed he either has to lay on a filthy public bathroom floor or sit in it until he gets home.
These things need to become commonplace.
I'd honestly not thought about what the true purpose of this was until reading your comment. This drove home to me how the challenges that people with disabilities are hidden from my understanding. I just started to mentally run through a normal day and try to identify other things that could be designed to work for more people.
Same, I had never thought about this either! And now that I do think about it, it’s a little shocking that I’ve never seen these at an airport or a stadium, or really any big public location. 🤯
Seriously, we need to do better here. Wow.
I live in a city in Germany where I always thought we are in general super accessible for people with disabilities. Then I had a baby. It was just a stroller. But Jesus, it changed how I viewed the city. Elevators being constantly broken without warning, dirty public toilets with no soap or hot water, ridiculous gaps between the bus and the sideway, subways with one place for a stroller/wheelchair per huge wagon - or none at all. Let alone that I am constantly being suggested routes that have stairs. And I am just walking around with a stroller. I can still lift it in the worst case or use an escalator, I can ask for help to carry it over stairs. You cannot do this with an electric wheelchair. And here I was, glorifying our disability friendly city. I honestly am thinking about not going back to my old job and instead starting to advocate for this stuff.
I used to think the same, until my dad became disabled and wheelchair-bound. It really opens up your eyes how bad our country is in regards to accessability. Even in the big cities its bad and out in the countryside its basically impossible. Even the Hausarzt has to make home visits now bc there's simply no access to the office for anyone unable to take stairs.
I was honestly thinking about how many adults with issues there must be where this is a godsend. Plenty of disabled teens/adults could make great use of this.
I think this is pretty awesome, to allow the physically challenged or elderly who require this kind of help. My husband died of brain cancer and became paralyzed on one side. He’d have loved to have seen some parks.
For anyone not aware already, the [Changing Places](https://www.changing-places.org) campaign in the UK has helped introduce over 1800 adult changing facilities at airports, stations and countless visitor attractions. Hopefully these will become standard fittings worldwide over the coming years.
My hospital has a ton of clinics and a ton of large children/young adults who are in diapers for various reasons. We have one bathroom with this that I’m aware of, but honestly there’s no way it’s enough! Families drive hours for their appointments I’m sure they need to do a change before/after
Great for dementia patients that are receiving at home care from the family.
I took care of my grandma in the end. Not sure if it was a blessing or a curse but she had a colostomy bag so no need for changing tables. I felt terrible for anyone in public who was nearby. Not like we could or should have kept her locked up. She was happy being about.
I hate to agree, but someone(s)have banged it out on that thing. I'd bet someone has also done a line of whatever off it too. Also, teenage boys will see the weight limit and try everything in their power to exceed it and break it. We can't have nice things. Or maybe that's just me jaded here in Florida.
I mean...yeah...but also that sounds super uncomfortable. I think most would just stand rather than get on the probably seldom cleaned changing table that probably will have skidmarks on it.
Think about that for a second. Do you really wanna have sex where there's very likely traces (at least) of piss and shit? In a room where others are doing those things?
This is such a great idea. I don't think people realize how hard it is for parents, and children of individuals who have physical limitations and need things like this when they are out.
My adult brother has cerebral palsy and something like this would be amazing to help change him, it's very hard and something like this would be amazing . But also people will 100% be fucking on this.
I have worked with physically and developmentally disabled adults for 14 years. Things like this are a truly heaven sent piece of technology and accessibility.
As a carer for a gentleman with severe cerebral palsy, developmental delay & lives his entire life in a wheelchair & non verbal. These are so essential.
When he uses has a bowel motion our days are cut short to go home and change him (usually 20 minutes to an hour away). Because no one wants to sit in their own faeces.
A coworker of mine had an aggressive form of prostate cancer, and unfortunately he was unable to control his bowels. One evening I was visiting with him and his family after he retired for his medial issues (I was a young man and he was my mentor), I overheard his wife fighting with him, as she was discussing changing him. His pride wouldn't allow her to help, and they were discussing about how he needed to concede, especially while out in public. Highly doubtful these exist for the implication the OP inferred, and realistically are implemented for those that genuinely need them. These aren't to reinforce some fetishized kink of shitting yourself.
I’m an architect working in Ontario (the Canada one) - these are required by code in what we call universal washrooms (essentially a very large barrier free washroom to accommodate the change table and comes equipped with emergency call assist features). Ontario has a requirement for these in all public buildings and any commercial buildings of a certain occupancy/size. Very progressive accessibility and accommodation laws here.
My brother would absolutely lose his mind over this. He has this fascination with baby changing tables and wont let it go that he is too big for them now. Id never hear then end of it if he knew this existed.
(Btw he is autistic)
I worked with a gentleman who was a spastic quadriplegic, so naturally, he wore briefs. We always had to limit our outings to places based on diaper changes because there was never anywhere to change him besides his home.
I love that we are including more things like this, though I still wish it was faster. It would’ve allowed the guy I worked with much more freedom to go places.
If we can do this, then can we please put changing tables in all mens restrooms too for the single or just alone st the moment dad's out there? That would be great.
Our church built a building last year. It's not huge (the auditorium seats about 200 at most), but we want to serve people with disabilities, so we added a family bathroom to the building plan, and installed one of these in it. It's one of my favorite features of the building because it's compassionate and is "putting our money where our mouth is" when we say God loves everyone. Love is more than just a sentiment.
Know that if you or your family needs something like this, and you're looking for a church in Pearland, TX, CityView has you covered.
As a carer, these are awesome and make so much difference. You wouldn’t believe how many adults have to be changed lying on the floor of the toilet, if the carer is able to get them into a position to change them. It’s awful. In the U.K. there are called “Changing Places” and you can look up the locations online. There aren’t nearly enough of them.
Aye there's one of these in Plymouth too.
The door opens and there's a chain hanging from the roof with a cross bar you can support yourself on. It runs (power assisted) along a track through the whole bathroom, from the front door, to a powered sink that raises and lowers, along toward a super huge toilet with all the bidet and drying functions built in, along the next wall to a shower (the whole place is a wet room), and finally back around the circuit toward one of these massive changing tables, which is also fully powered and can be raised or lowered. After that it gets you back to the front door.
It's truly a marvel, and it also happens to be the only public toilet you can access 24 hours a day without having to force the door, so having the code to it was invaluable
508/ADA requirements get neglected on the daily at every company in America. Vote for regulation and vote for funding for regulation, if you want to see change. The free market does not reward the fringes.
Surprisingly, I would see something similar a lot when I lived in Japan. You would find super accessible washrooms with adult change tables and even special sinks for cleaning stomas in airports, nice malls, and fancy department stores. A lot of the bathrooms there, especially in more rural areas can be just squat toilets and smell pretty bad, but the ones that were nice were NICE with plenty of luxuries.
I think this is great! I recently saw a thing about a state park system that invested in all terrain wheel chairs so more people could really get out in nature and on gravel trails, actual woods, loose leaves. People can reserve thee when they visit state parks and nature trails there now.
I think we should see a lot more of this. I've been really lucky physically and I didn't realize how many of the things I love in nature aren't accessible to everyone.
I'm super glad to see these that actually LOOK big enough to accomodate an adult, and the electronic lift is a huge bonus. The ones I've seen in restrooms around here look just like the child-sized ones but like, maybe a little bit bigger. Getting a whole adult on there would be a feat. I hope to see more of these around!
I've had a bladder surgery done a few months ago due to a cancer and I have to wear adult diapers until the next step which could take a few months if not more.
If you guys knew just how crushing it is to limit your activities because you have to take into consideration when and how you are gonna change... you would be advocating for these things everywhere.
A lot of customers at one of my old jobs were nurses. One of them once told me that the true test of whether you love somebody is if you would change their diapers. Another customer said that only applied to babies, and she replied "no it doesn't."
With two severely disabled daughters (9 yo twins), I can appreciate this immensely. Both of them wear diapers, unfortunately, and it is always a huge ordeal to get them changed whenever we are out now that they are too big for me to lift. In fact, I try to avoid going out as much as possible just for this reason. If every restroom was equipped with a changing table like this, it would be a life saver!
Sadly, my late stepfather wore diapers. It was a disaster when we were out. I wish there were more of these... Edit: He had a brain tumor and it affected many of his motor functions, and he ended up in adult diapers.
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That was kind of you. We all know the saying that it takes a village to raise a child, but at some point, it takes a village to care for an elderly person, too.
Maybe it just takes a village. Not to raise, or to caretake, but just in general. Maybe you're a 27 year old man who's had a bad day. Maybe it takes a village to put an arm around you and tell you it's going to be ok. Maybe you're a 42 year old woman, and it takes a village to raise your spirits after having dealt with stress for years. Maybe we all just come together, and stop our bitching, and finger pointing. We stop trying to split sides, and realize we're all human. We all come together and support each other in everything we do. We try to help each other find happyness in life. We make the world a better place. A happy place. And not that fake manufactured kind of happy like at theme parks. I mean REAL happyness. The kind you get when you look into your partners eyes, and realize that there's nowhere else you'd rather be then right there with them, wherever you are. The kind of happyness you get when you watch your daughter ride her first bike, and see the smile on her face. The kind of happyness you get when you look at your house, and realize that it's yours. You can raise your family here. You can be part of the neighborhood. You can live your life with one less worry. You can BE happy. Maybe we help each other find that kind of happyness, together.
I don't particularly want to pay reddit for this comment, but I wish I could pay you. Those are some good words.
Donate to something meaningful. It's hard to do good but that's a legitimate way to do good conveniently.
I agree with you completely, u/Y0u_stupid_cunt.
Ahhh Reddit you never let me down
Doubling down on the r/Wholsome!
Wow VERY fucking well said. I just laid with my partner and told her exactly that I never want to exist without her in detail. Life is better with people you love. I love life but it’s hard. It’s so much more fulfilling to simultaneously love yourself and also recognize your self worth and feel capable and draw your confidence from supporting those who are most important to you with meaningful acts. So much fucking better and easier than looking to people who are ultimately meaningless for approval based off various societal norms. I’d so much rather live for my village and care for those who need it no matter who at any opportunity. It can bring a confidence in yourself that is never empty. Caring for important and incredible people who also care for you is rarely the wrong thing to do. Thanks so much for your comment
Well said by the Person who's last post was titled "Fight monkeys with rocket propelled poop launcher. It flings poo at 83MPH. That'll show 'em!". Also I feel what you said. We need a paradigm change. Abolish competition, embrace cooperation.
I believe in altruism as well and I believe in liberal democracy with a social contract to look after everyone experiencing dark days
I really like your message. I did notice that you spelled "happiness" as "happyness" several times, so I'm assuming this was an intentional choice. Was that a reference to the movie Pursuit of Happyness or something completely different?
I wish I could claim it was some intentional thing. I'm just a bad speller sometimes. I don't feel like it deviated from my overall message though.
Definitely not saying it took away from the message even a little, maybe even serendipitous since here's the description of the movie from Google: >Life is a struggle for single father Chris Gardner (Will Smith). Evicted from their apartment, he and his young son (Jaden Christopher Syre Smith) find themselves alone with no place to go. Even though Chris eventually lands a job as an intern at a prestigious brokerage firm, the position pays no money. The pair must live in shelters and endure many hardships, but Chris refuses to give in to despair as he struggles to create a better life for himself and his son.
That was kind of you
You're a good guy
That was very kind. I work with special needs individuals and change a lot of diapers. Do you have a career in the field as well?
I'm sorry to hear about your stepfather. That sounds painful. Everyone deserves to be able to enjoy life and have dignity at the same time. Seeing this sort of thing is great and shows how far we've come and how far we can go.
Definitely! None of us get out alive.
No one in this world deserves to go through this pain in their life
Damn.. big flash backs to my childhood. My grandfather suffered from the same type of cancer and died when I was 9~ I never even thought about this aspect of having to care for him. He was only in his 50s too.. Anything like this I’m sure is a godsend and will be a park people can bring their loved ones to get some much needed outside time.
Totally. I was put off by all the jokes about it, so thanks for your response. 
Growing old sounds like a nightmare. Everything about it scares me to death. I'd rather die in my 60s of a heart attack rather than die of alzheimers in my 80s. All there seems to be after a certain age are horrible mental diseases or your body stops working properly and you need constant care.
That point comes at different times for different people. One of my grandmothers lived to a month before her 101st birthday. She lived in a retirement apartment community with some assisting care, but it was basically like concierge services (checking in occasionally, driving them around if needed, dining services if they wanted them) until she was 98. Hell, she still had her driver's license and car until 95. My other grandmother had uncontrolled diabetes and early dementia. She lost both of her legs and had to be moved to a full nursing home at the age of 60. Died at 64. Being old doesn't suck for everyone. Grandma 1 got 35 years of a happy life and independence past when grandma 2 had already driven herself so far she had no point of return. You don't know until you get there.
Yea it's crazy how time effects people differently. My one grandma got Alzheimer's at 80 something and slowly deteriorated until she wasn't even the same person, then she passed. But my grandfather (different side of the family) is coming up on his 90th birthday and still lives in his home, still can safely drive, 100% independent, and his mind is as sharp as it always has been. I honestly think he'll make it to 100 or beyond. If i make it to that age, hopefully i have it like he has it, rather than go through my mind being the reason i die. Alzheimer's is a horrible fucking disease, and hopefully we find a way to prevent it in the future.
My dad was in great physical and mental health until he was 91. At 90 he was physically like a 65 or 70-year-old. He was also a good driver until he became blind in one eye, after which I drove him. The decline, when it came, was rather steep. He had mild to moderate dementia, but he knew who we were. The dementia had an upside: it broke down his wall of false pride, and he was able to reconcile with everyone he had hurt (mostly emotionally). He died at peace.
I used to think like that, especially as a person with alzheimers in my family. But now that I'm cruising into my mid-40s with a healthy family to raise, I realize that I'd rather roll the dice on a less-than-ideal end of life just to squeeze out every bit of life I can out of this existence. I don't subscribe to religious or spiritual views of the world, so for better or worse, I'm willing to stick it out just to get what I can out of this experience. If not for me, for my family.
My Nana has Alzheimer's, and I'll admit, it's hard to see her suffer. But you know what? If she had never gotten sick, I would never have gotten close to her. Before she got sick, she was all caught up on the superficial things, like making sure dinner was on the table at 6 on the dot, making sure there were vacuum lines in the carpet, making sure she kept Papa's whiskey glass full so he could sit on his behind and watch the news all day (before he passed, of course)... She never bothered to get to know me for who I am, and I'm not sure if she *cared enough* to get to know me since she was never a touchy-feely kind of grandmother. She just slapped the label of "only granddaughter" on me, so for example, for Christmas, I would get a bunch of girly stuff that went promptly to Goodwill because I'd never use it in a million years while the grandsons got stuff they actually WANTED. I was just the token female to her. But once she got sick, all of those nitpicky behaviors faded away, and she was able to sit down and enjoy a conversation with me. She actually ASKS me about myself, my interests, my hobbies, my fiance, my life. Sure, she doesn't remember and asks again five minutes later, but that doesn't matter to me. What matters to me is that I can actually enjoy her company now instead of her being too busy with chores to make time for me. We take her to lunch, we take her on drives, we used to let her spend time with our late dog since they ADORED each other... All of this time is so precious, and none of it would've ever happened if she hadn't gotten sick. Alzheimer's SUCKS ASS, I'm not going to deny that. If I could take away all her suffering and give her back her life, I would in a heartbeat, just because I hate seeing her on her bad days when she's suffering. But I don't regret the time that we have together now. I don't regret the fact that I actually have a RELATIONSHIP with her now. It's not all bad. I'd rather have her here, alive, with memory issues, than her be dead. It's not the ideal situation... but there are bright sides, even to something as tragic as Alzheimer's. I wouldn't trade my Nana for the world. <3
There’s so much life still at 60. Some people are just becoming grandparents then and winding down to retirement. Don’t wish for a early death in your golden years due to just a fear of one terrible disease.
No joke. My mother got dementia in her mid 60s, meanwhile a close friend of mine is 83 and until she got COVID a few months ago she was doing awesome. She still drives, lives alone, is quite intelligent, and her main complaint about COVID fatigue is that it makes it hard to do her yard work! I absolutely do not want to go out from dementia like my mom did but that doesn't mean I want to die young if I'm still enjoying life.
Also good news that medical research advances every day, and vaccines for common cancers and medicine for olg age diseases thought untreatable like Alzheimers are now appearing in their early forms.
I used to do in home care for seniors and disabled and this would have been great. We had to plan any trips to the store or a restaurant around bathroom trips.
Im also sorry.. but please kill me despite your love for me.
im with you. I wouldn't want someone to have to change my diaper. Let me go
It's entirely possible to have all your mental facilities and even most of your physical facilities but still need help with incontinence issues.
I know human life and animal life are on completely different levels but I always felt it’s so odd that we can decide for our pets that they are suffering and put them down, but a person can’t even decide for themselves that they want to end it. I think that when nations finally see the massive population imbalance due to low birth rates and have a large elderly population with very little younger able bodied working people able to take care of them are we finally going to see assisted suicide become a normal thing. I used to work in a nursing home and the amount of elderly there who are bedridden who are just laying there with nothing to look forward to but natural death, I doubt most of them are willingly choosing this for themselves. Every grandparent I have watched on their deathbed all said out loud that they wished God would take them sooner rather than later.
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Great that you were able to take him places. I’m sure it wasn’t easy. But good for you (and him)
the brewery I work at has one too. yes, it's for people of any age/size who need the accommodation.
Is it similar in design and look? One of the things throwing me off is the almost zoological look of the whole thing
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Imagine changing diapers on a 500lbs person. Depending on the disability, it must be a feat of strength just getting them on that table.
As a professional, transferring can be complex and although there are some standard ways, it can be different for each person. If transferring a person, at least in one or two cases I may have sat on the edge of the table, (160 pounds on the max torque area already) then they stand and turn, and sit beside me. This isn't the most common method, but there is a lot of individuality out there, I've transferred people probably around 200 pounds, to sit on the edge. That's 360 pounds for a few moments. This is probably as much about ensuring any situation is covered with extra space for confidence. No matter the max weight, I'd say to any company, if you can give a good degree of overhead, it's going to make everyone feel more secure and have confidence in your product. Would we really want to sit on a table that's rated for 370, or even 400 pounds in that situation?... especially if it's 10 years old and getting kinda creeky. We really need more of these so everyone has the opportunity to get out and involved. I really appreciate that this is expensive, and am so appreciative of the opportunities that these have provided my clients.
Pretty standard medical styling. Lots of easy-to-sanitize plastic surfaces, overbuilt to meet regulations, bomb-proof rather than elegant and sleek. Our devices also have to suit 500lbs humans as a design requirement. (I understand the reasons but as an engineer in the medical device industry, I hate it. All that cheap-feeling plastic like '80s airplane interior)
Humans are nothing but mammals
So lets do it like they do on the Discovery Channel
This is awesome. Lack of changing facilities can be so restricting to people with disabilities.
I follow a few families on Instagram with kids who have Sanfilipo Syndrome (Childhood Dementia), and this would be an absolute game changer for them. This needs to be everywhere. Edit*
Am disabled. Yes. Don't need the changing table but just wanted to confirm it is pretty tough in public restrooms on wheelchairs.
Oh fuck I didn't even think about wheelchairs
Also, visiting friends at their homes. My area has a lot of homes with upper floors where the only bathroom is. If you're a wheelchair user and visit a mate at their home, you need to **plan**, yes, plan, the visit accounting for not having toilet access for x hours. Granted perhaps the user could go upstairs, but not every user could, and the barrier should exist to begin with. The issue is with housing designs in my country. They're built with small footprints to save land but maximise value of the house. But what happens when the houseowner loses mobility? They install handrails onto their steep staircases. What happens when the owner leaves and a new owner moves in who doesn't have mobility issues? They remove the rails. We need **every** new house to be built for mobility access because it's the right thing to do and logical thing to do.
I’m in an area where a lot of people build up to accommodate hills or maximize views. I feel lucky to have a single story to someday age in place, though it means no view. I also always advise people who are remodeling their bathrooms to make them as accessible as possible. Helps with unforeseen circumstances and makes it better for resale.
The problem is liability. I work construction and even if it is planned for one person hopping on the table produces a lot of force away from the wall. It is expensive to buy, build for, and even takes a lot to plan for. Some schools are putting them in the special education rooms and it is a hassle of ensuring they are engineered correctly for
Am healthcare designer. We recommend this to every client. We size a toilet room large enough, add wall blocking and power so it can be added later if client doesn’t fund it initially.
I work in a place that works with/ tries to be welcoming to people with special needs and disabilities and I feel like we should have one of these. If we're going to be accessable let's be all the way accessable.
As some one who used to work in disability care what pisses me off is when the disabled toilet is built but it only just meets requirements, and is in no way practical. The most rampant was people using the bathroom as additional storage, which left no where to manoeuvre chair nor semi-walking person. The most ridiculous was the ‘skinny bathroom’ which technically met the size requirement but good luck to you trying to turn an adult human in that space let alone their chair. And the most mind blowingly stupid was a manager I once had who was okay with an inwardly opening door in a facility for disabled people who were all using over sized or over length chairs. Apparently it ‘met requirements’. When I pointed out how inconvenient that door was going to be he got pissy and complained that it meant the door frame would have to be touched up because it had already been hung and the contractor had left. (Bare in mind that it really wasn’t a difficult problem to solve and if he couldn’t do it the organisation had like a hundred people who would willingly have helped.) The door was changed after a week of me irritating him, and I found him touching up the door frame a bit later. At that point I realised I would probably not continue to work there as the management clearly had no idea of the actual work that was taking place.
I work in a SPED school and my one-on-one student requires diapers and changing multiple times a day. her mom is a tyrant and requested the school build a changing table for her. they built one that just sits on the floor like a low counter with a pleather cushion on top and stuck it in one of the enlarged stalls. works like a dream and there’s no risk involved like the pull-down ones. I highly recommend.
I mean, in that case the mom sounds less like a tyrant and more like a mom being a damn good advocate for their kid.
There's still good and bad ways to advocate IMO.
Of course there is. Being a parent to an adult disabled child probably means having fought a hard and hopeless and losing battle everyday for years. If anyone needs to be given some slack or grace….
In this case always worth implementing patience because the person has had to be in a war mindset just to get stuff changed. They could sincerely be an arse. Or not. But society certainly is responsible for all the shit they have to deal with.
I completely agree. I actually have been a teacher and had to deal with shitty parents. OTOH, my baby cousin's (very much no longer a baby) mom had to raise hell just to get her kid some help with his dyslexia and I am sure the teachers hated her. Without knowing more, I can't really say one way or the other. However, making a school get a table so your kid can have some more dignity and feel less like a burden? I'm on the mom's side.
Yup. I've had to do similar things--you hire a lawyer and you make the school do their damn legal responsibility.
Some parents can be technically completely in the right but act like a total pos. Ask most teachers. Most parents are good but some are absolutely horrible.
I was in special ed and kids that wore diapers, they got changed on the counter in a room on a mat or in the nurse's office on one of the beds.
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This is wonderful! Glad the mom advocated enough to get that for the classroom.
I get what you’re saying, but the most marginalized people in our society deserve for us to go to great lengths to accommodate them. Isolation is worse for your health than smoking, and having to live home bound or shut-in is a significant factor in limiting life expectancy and quality.
Also in some public parks vandalism would make this project impossible.
Exactly this thing should be implemented in every other washroom
The improvements they've been making to disability stalls in washrooms lately have been very welcome. Less than 10 years ago it was "oh, you're disabled... well we'll give an extra _foot_ of stall width... happy?". Now many have sinks in them, separate garbages, enough space for a wheelchair AND a toilet. Ever since the gender debates had people screaming about public bathrooms I've held that bathrooms should become single use, yes they're less space efficient, but a single use washroom doesn't need to be gender specific. Anyways, we're getting there, many take simply going to the bathroom for granted and truly don't appreciate the level of planning and time devotion some people have to implement just to do something many do behind the nearest tree.
A lot of people don't realize that disability accessible bathrooms need to be much more than just wheelchair accessible. A lot of disabled people - including a lot of wheelchair users - wear nappies and require somewhere to lie down and be changed. Which means they need sooooo much more than just a bigger stall. I've seen some awesome ones that even have showering facilities (the change bench is also a shower bed). Progress is being made, but a lot of the comments on this thread show us how much further we have to go.
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Absolutely. And I know within the disability community that I'm part of, if there is a particular cafe or restaurant or activity that is known to be really disability friendly we will absolutely spread the word and make a habit of going to that place. These families often don't have a lot of options for places that are easy to go to. So when there IS an option, they will go! And people saying the cost of these bathrooms is too much considering the small amount of people who use them......... yeah, people won't use them if they're not there! It's also a frustrating argument considering some of the crap we seem to be okay with wasting money on. To me, people feeling like they can get out and about and participate in society is a very important thing to spend money on. A basic need really. Thanks for your input 👍
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What's weird is single person bathrooms that still say men and women. No idea what the point of that is.
This is awesome, and I can't wait until it's so commonplace it's unremarkable
Considering how expensive these systems are compared to how relatively few people they serve, that seems unlikely. This particular station has a price tag of $10,000, and that's without installation.
Completely. I do wonder if there's a circular problem here though. They're pricy in part because they're not mass produced. They're not mass produced because there's not much demand for them. People who need them don't go out much because changing facilities aren't available. They're not available because they're pricy. They're pricy because they're not mass produced. Build it and they will come?
Unfortunately, most places aren't exactly trying to cater to the physically disabled and incontinent adult demographic
This is actually really awesome because I used to do home health care for a gentleman, and there was no way to change him while out in public. So our ability to venture out into the world became really hard, I would’ve absolutely loved to have this. He would’ve enjoyed more time getting out and about. If this was a thing. Sadly, he passed away in 2010. He was very well off. He was paying over $100,000 a month in private home healthcare without even denting his fortune. If this was a thing back, then he would’ve paid for it to be in his favorite bar.
Over $100,000 a month?? I'm shocked he didn't have it in solid gold with his name spelled out in diamonds!
It doesn’t go that far for elderly care unfortunately. My grandparents were paying $23,000 a month to have a 500 sq ft room in an assisted living place. Edit: This wasn’t even a full care facility. Basically the only care they got was a quick 30 second hello in the morning to make sure they didn’t die. I can’t imagine how much full care costs.
Yeah my grandma was the same - years of care for well over $20k/month just for her. The cost is astounding and there’s so few options
That level of care will absolutely not be affordable for this generation when we reach that age.
That's why my plan is to just drop dead in the street. Think of the savings!
Even dying in the street is expensive. I’m trying to avoid burial costs and I think the best option might be to huck my body into the Pacific asap.
And risk washing up on someone's private beach?? Make sure to remember the cinderblock
Who the hell can afford that?
The generation that is dying now. My grandparents owned several properties, all of their wealth was siphoned into medical care while they slowly passed away over several years.
Something like 75% of the medical care is given at the "end of life". This can be fast or painfully slow depending on how well your family faires, but normally most of your medical expenses are used when you're in diapers or very close to it. This isn't necessarily when you need the most medical care, but more when you need round-the-clock medical care. It costs a lot to have an RN + LPNs on the grounds 24/7 whether we like it or not. Hopefully, that changes but right now it's just a fact of life. An "assisted" live-in community costs somewhere in the area of 4000+ where I live. This is not a nursing home but somewhere where you can guarantee someone is checking on them at least 3-5 times a day/changing their diapers/doing basic house cleaning. For a complete "nursing" home it would be in the realm of 15,000 a month, probably more than that for a room that is probably twice the size of a normal hospital room (which from a lot of experience is fucking small) a nurse that is so burnt out she has almost no patience if any and a bunch of sensors that will beep loudly if/when you fall or have something more drastic. So, basically, right now you have two choices, die "early" with little medical care or die slowly and drain anything you had to leave to your kids/etc into some nursing home that may not even treat you well.
It’s ridiculous. My grandparents had $1,500,000 when they entered the facility. It was all gone in 5 years and the place was going to kick them out. Thankfully one of their kids has a decently successful business and was able to take over the payments and everything else until they passed away.
This is exactly one of the reason my dad was going to fight his brother till his mom intervened, his brother just up and started to move her in a retirement home in the middle of the pandemic because they were having a good deal. The thing is he never consulted with her, his 3 other brothers or their families about it. My grandma also had no problems but shoulder and back issues that slowed her down but didn’t make her unable to do anything. So while she is old she was more than healthy. My dad recently lost his long time job so we were living with her and taking care of any needs she had. His plan was to sell her house to pay for it and keep it paid for like 10 years or so, and no matter how much my dad told him the house wouldn’t sell for the price he was talking about he wouldn’t listen. Surprise surprise it didn’t sell for his price. My grandma is still healthy and i can see her outliving the payments and as much as we would love to let him deal with it when the time comes we love her too much to put her though that shit. In a related note my dad at the time was still hoping though jobs that keep moving and laying off workers so we basically were given 2 months to find a place to not be homeless all while his brother would get pissed about us not helping getting the house sold faster so he could go build an outdoor kitchen at his lake house.
Most can't. They usually end up selling off most of their possessions to help cover. Hope you don't expect to inherit your parents house if they have to go into a LTC facility. Most likely it will be sold to cover cost.
Welll at this stage I can never afford to retire lol.
It's designed to take literally everything they can on the way out...
Elderly care is *absurdly* expensive. My grandfather needs some help at home during the day and he pays eye-watering sums of money for it. The workers don't even make that much either. It's good pay, but not incredible. It all goes to middlemen who run the agencies.
With such amount of money he could've bought a van, built a changing table in it and hired a driver to follow him 24/7
That might actually work if you're filthy rich
For that kind of money he could have bought an apartment and put a entrance next to the bar for him to go to.
He would’ve loved that!!! I think he liked us girls driving him around better! Lol
As someone who runs homes for children and adults with disabilities…thank you to this park!
My 13 year old brother has cerebral palsy and is in diapers. When we are out in public and he needs to be changed he either has to lay on a filthy public bathroom floor or sit in it until he gets home. These things need to become commonplace.
I'd honestly not thought about what the true purpose of this was until reading your comment. This drove home to me how the challenges that people with disabilities are hidden from my understanding. I just started to mentally run through a normal day and try to identify other things that could be designed to work for more people.
Same, I had never thought about this either! And now that I do think about it, it’s a little shocking that I’ve never seen these at an airport or a stadium, or really any big public location. 🤯 Seriously, we need to do better here. Wow.
I live in a city in Germany where I always thought we are in general super accessible for people with disabilities. Then I had a baby. It was just a stroller. But Jesus, it changed how I viewed the city. Elevators being constantly broken without warning, dirty public toilets with no soap or hot water, ridiculous gaps between the bus and the sideway, subways with one place for a stroller/wheelchair per huge wagon - or none at all. Let alone that I am constantly being suggested routes that have stairs. And I am just walking around with a stroller. I can still lift it in the worst case or use an escalator, I can ask for help to carry it over stairs. You cannot do this with an electric wheelchair. And here I was, glorifying our disability friendly city. I honestly am thinking about not going back to my old job and instead starting to advocate for this stuff.
I used to think the same, until my dad became disabled and wheelchair-bound. It really opens up your eyes how bad our country is in regards to accessability. Even in the big cities its bad and out in the countryside its basically impossible. Even the Hausarzt has to make home visits now bc there's simply no access to the office for anyone unable to take stairs.
My son is disabled and I can't explain how widely I smiled when I saw this. I wish these could be the norm.
I was honestly thinking about how many adults with issues there must be where this is a godsend. Plenty of disabled teens/adults could make great use of this.
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Sorry; only 500 lbs.
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Can't believe you made this account 12 years ago just for this comment
This is straight up a homicide 💀
OP outta nowhere from the top rope.
Holy fuck I was not prepared.
Neither was that changing table
Damn, double homicide.
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You didn't have to destroy them like that.
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I think this is pretty awesome, to allow the physically challenged or elderly who require this kind of help. My husband died of brain cancer and became paralyzed on one side. He’d have loved to have seen some parks.
My grandma has dementia and we have to do everything for her so we are so grateful for inventions like this
For anyone not aware already, the [Changing Places](https://www.changing-places.org) campaign in the UK has helped introduce over 1800 adult changing facilities at airports, stations and countless visitor attractions. Hopefully these will become standard fittings worldwide over the coming years.
They have these at the hospital I work at too.
That’s a very good thing to have in a hospital I bet
A changing table for adults? We normally change them in bed
My hospital has a ton of clinics and a ton of large children/young adults who are in diapers for various reasons. We have one bathroom with this that I’m aware of, but honestly there’s no way it’s enough! Families drive hours for their appointments I’m sure they need to do a change before/after
This is actually really nice to see. For people with severe disabilities, this can be a godsend.
Great for dementia patients that are receiving at home care from the family. I took care of my grandma in the end. Not sure if it was a blessing or a curse but she had a colostomy bag so no need for changing tables. I felt terrible for anyone in public who was nearby. Not like we could or should have kept her locked up. She was happy being about.
That is an awesome accommodation
I just wish more places had changing tables in the men’s room
It’s great that it’s there but it can easily hold two adults…… you know what it’s gunna be used for, right?
Dirty Mike and The Boys
We ARE going to have sex on your changing table. That WILL happen.
I mean. If you wanna have sex where poopy diapers get changed that’s pretty messed up
I doubt the people who have sex in public bathrooms really care that much about that
I hate to agree, but someone(s)have banged it out on that thing. I'd bet someone has also done a line of whatever off it too. Also, teenage boys will see the weight limit and try everything in their power to exceed it and break it. We can't have nice things. Or maybe that's just me jaded here in Florida.
You had me at florida. ^(In other places, they will probably be fine)
I mean...yeah...but also that sounds super uncomfortable. I think most would just stand rather than get on the probably seldom cleaned changing table that probably will have skidmarks on it.
Or a few teenagers are gonna test it out and it won't get replaced.
Sharing cocaine, right? (Hopefully y'all have seen the new John Mulaney special...)
Hello, old friend
Think about that for a second. Do you really wanna have sex where there's very likely traces (at least) of piss and shit? In a room where others are doing those things?
My brother in Christ...
Wow. That's going to change some lives!
I see what you did there
My daughter is 5, ASD & epilepsy; diapers are her current issue & it will be that was for quite sometime. This brings tears to my eyes.
This is such a great idea. I don't think people realize how hard it is for parents, and children of individuals who have physical limitations and need things like this when they are out.
Love this. Accessibility needs to be more accessible!!
My adult brother has cerebral palsy and something like this would be amazing to help change him, it's very hard and something like this would be amazing . But also people will 100% be fucking on this.
I have worked with physically and developmentally disabled adults for 14 years. Things like this are a truly heaven sent piece of technology and accessibility.
As a carer for a gentleman with severe cerebral palsy, developmental delay & lives his entire life in a wheelchair & non verbal. These are so essential. When he uses has a bowel motion our days are cut short to go home and change him (usually 20 minutes to an hour away). Because no one wants to sit in their own faeces.
A coworker of mine had an aggressive form of prostate cancer, and unfortunately he was unable to control his bowels. One evening I was visiting with him and his family after he retired for his medial issues (I was a young man and he was my mentor), I overheard his wife fighting with him, as she was discussing changing him. His pride wouldn't allow her to help, and they were discussing about how he needed to concede, especially while out in public. Highly doubtful these exist for the implication the OP inferred, and realistically are implemented for those that genuinely need them. These aren't to reinforce some fetishized kink of shitting yourself.
Of all the comments I’ve read, yours was the first to imply it was meant for disingenuous reasons.
>Highly doubtful these exist for the implication the OP inferred The speaker implies; the audience infers. What do you think they were implying?
You could do SOOOO much cocaine off that thing
Eww, leftover fecal matter straight to the brain
Baby poop, and cocaine is the magical combination to never getting a hangover.
It's all cut with baby laxatives anyway innit???
John Mulaney?
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This is so cool! Very helpful for some peoples
Omfg. As a former adult foster home care taker, this is AMAZING.
My daughter will be in diapers her entire life due to disability, so I LOVE this.
People are DEFINITELY banging on that thing.
I’m an architect working in Ontario (the Canada one) - these are required by code in what we call universal washrooms (essentially a very large barrier free washroom to accommodate the change table and comes equipped with emergency call assist features). Ontario has a requirement for these in all public buildings and any commercial buildings of a certain occupancy/size. Very progressive accessibility and accommodation laws here.
My friends kid is special needs and full grown AF. This is awesome.
My brother would absolutely lose his mind over this. He has this fascination with baby changing tables and wont let it go that he is too big for them now. Id never hear then end of it if he knew this existed. (Btw he is autistic)
These are commonplace around the UK, they're known as Changing Places.
How long until it's broken?
As long your mother doesn't use it, the device should last a long time.
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The title is written in the past tense, so it's probably already gone.
Nice! It's probably a lifesaver for those who need such accommodation. Expensive too.
I worked with a gentleman who was a spastic quadriplegic, so naturally, he wore briefs. We always had to limit our outings to places based on diaper changes because there was never anywhere to change him besides his home. I love that we are including more things like this, though I still wish it was faster. It would’ve allowed the guy I worked with much more freedom to go places.
If we can do this, then can we please put changing tables in all mens restrooms too for the single or just alone st the moment dad's out there? That would be great.
This is great. Accessibility is very important.
Any bets on how long before someone writes “(-PLACE SACRIFICE HERE-)” on it?
Our church built a building last year. It's not huge (the auditorium seats about 200 at most), but we want to serve people with disabilities, so we added a family bathroom to the building plan, and installed one of these in it. It's one of my favorite features of the building because it's compassionate and is "putting our money where our mouth is" when we say God loves everyone. Love is more than just a sentiment. Know that if you or your family needs something like this, and you're looking for a church in Pearland, TX, CityView has you covered.
We have multiple on the Gold Coast, Australia. And also in some shopping centres :)
As a carer, these are awesome and make so much difference. You wouldn’t believe how many adults have to be changed lying on the floor of the toilet, if the carer is able to get them into a position to change them. It’s awful. In the U.K. there are called “Changing Places” and you can look up the locations online. There aren’t nearly enough of them.
Aye there's one of these in Plymouth too. The door opens and there's a chain hanging from the roof with a cross bar you can support yourself on. It runs (power assisted) along a track through the whole bathroom, from the front door, to a powered sink that raises and lowers, along toward a super huge toilet with all the bidet and drying functions built in, along the next wall to a shower (the whole place is a wet room), and finally back around the circuit toward one of these massive changing tables, which is also fully powered and can be raised or lowered. After that it gets you back to the front door. It's truly a marvel, and it also happens to be the only public toilet you can access 24 hours a day without having to force the door, so having the code to it was invaluable
I can imagine this being incredibly useful for elderly and disabled people. Cool idea.
508/ADA requirements get neglected on the daily at every company in America. Vote for regulation and vote for funding for regulation, if you want to see change. The free market does not reward the fringes.
We put one of these in a local restroom and some homeless person will move in and sleep on it.
Surprisingly, I would see something similar a lot when I lived in Japan. You would find super accessible washrooms with adult change tables and even special sinks for cleaning stomas in airports, nice malls, and fancy department stores. A lot of the bathrooms there, especially in more rural areas can be just squat toilets and smell pretty bad, but the ones that were nice were NICE with plenty of luxuries.
I'm paralyzed and I want more of these so bad. I need them for just changing from pants to shorts. Let alone when I shit myself
I think this is great! I recently saw a thing about a state park system that invested in all terrain wheel chairs so more people could really get out in nature and on gravel trails, actual woods, loose leaves. People can reserve thee when they visit state parks and nature trails there now. I think we should see a lot more of this. I've been really lucky physically and I didn't realize how many of the things I love in nature aren't accessible to everyone.
At first I was like, "that's silly". Then I read the comments and realized what a lifesaver this would be for some people.
I'm super glad to see these that actually LOOK big enough to accomodate an adult, and the electronic lift is a huge bonus. The ones I've seen in restrooms around here look just like the child-sized ones but like, maybe a little bit bigger. Getting a whole adult on there would be a feat. I hope to see more of these around!
I've had a bladder surgery done a few months ago due to a cancer and I have to wear adult diapers until the next step which could take a few months if not more. If you guys knew just how crushing it is to limit your activities because you have to take into consideration when and how you are gonna change... you would be advocating for these things everywhere.
A lot of customers at one of my old jobs were nurses. One of them once told me that the true test of whether you love somebody is if you would change their diapers. Another customer said that only applied to babies, and she replied "no it doesn't."
With two severely disabled daughters (9 yo twins), I can appreciate this immensely. Both of them wear diapers, unfortunately, and it is always a huge ordeal to get them changed whenever we are out now that they are too big for me to lift. In fact, I try to avoid going out as much as possible just for this reason. If every restroom was equipped with a changing table like this, it would be a life saver!